The Rabbit Hole Trend... and it's ugly truths. || Gacha Rant
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- Опубліковано 24 бер 2024
- ▪︎ Heyyyy everyone! Daily reminder to give respect to everyone mentioned! Please don't go off hunting for them and spread hate to them. It doesn't solve anything.
▪︎ Also, thank you for watching! :]
• On a side note, there was something I didn't put in the video for the sake of timing.
• With the Honkai Star Rail animation I showed, people were saying it was a Rabbit Hole 'parody.' ... I didn't believe that one bit. It was straight-up traced EVERYWHERE. It wasn't a parody. It was straight up stealing. A parody wouldn't have been traced. Yikes.
▪︎ One thing that I definitely wanted to add was that the oversexualized content being shown to children is a problem. Of course, parents could be seeing what their child is watching, but the problem lies with UA-cam's algorithm. This trend is extremely large and once a child runs into it while scrolling through UA-cam shorts, it consistently keeps showing up. Especially if the child interacts with it by commenting and/or liking it. The people joining the Rabbit Hole trend generally make it more sexualized than the original video; in which is the type of content usually recommended by UA-cam's algorithm. Not to mention the lyrics are misused and misunderstood by people who don't know the translation. (But this is not a surprise, as this has been an ongoing problem between Japanese songs and people who don't know Japanese. A lot of Japanese songs are rooted with sensitive topics like sexual innuendoes and suicide. People will misuse these deeply rooted songs because it has a 'nice tone.')
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I read through the comments, and I made a small mistake.
Apparently, the character wasn't Miku, and I mistaked it as Miku. (Since channel makes Hatsune Miku content and it somewhat looks like Miku, I assumed it was Miku.) It was a failure on my part.
Though, the thing that confused me was that Miku and Pure Pure looked similar. The blue hair, the pigtails, and at some point, the video show cased other animations they did with Miku. So, I thought it was Miku.
(Honestly, I think they should of changed SOMETHING with Pure Pure to make it more unique and less like Miku, considering they're known for making Miku animations. For example, changing the hair color to not be blue. Or making the hair style not pigtails. Hatsune Miku is extremely well known, and you wouldn't want to make an entirely new character just for it to be confused as Miku because it barely has a difference.
With Miku's age, she was originally 16 years old. Even though you can make her age anything you want, it still is an ick to me that someone has to change her age to get away with adult themes.
And considering how 18 is JUST on the border of being legal, I'd say it's still too young.
Apologies for the miscommunication! :]
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I read through the comments, and I made a small mistake.
Apparently, the character wasn't Miku, and I mistaked it as Miku. (Since channel makes Hatsune Miku content and it somewhat looks like Miku, I assumed it was Miku.) It was a failure on my part.
Though, the thing that confused me was that Miku and Pure Pure looked similar. The blue hair, the pigtails, and at some point, the video show cased other animations they did with Miku. So, I thought it was Miku.
(Honestly, I think they should of changed SOMETHING with Pure Pure to make it more unique and less like Miku, considering they're known for making Miku animations. For example, changing the hair color to not be blue. Or making the hair style not pigtails. Hatsune Miku is extremely well known, and you wouldn't want to make an entirely new character just for it to be confused as Miku because it barely has a difference.
With Miku's age, she was originally 16 years old. Even though you can make her age anything you want, it still is an ick to me that someone has to change her age to get away with adult themes.
And considering how 18 is JUST on the border of being legal, I'd say it's still too young.
Apologies for the miscommunication! :]
The thing is they only gave Miku an age to make her more marketable but at the end of the day all vocaloids are just instruments and miku, Len, rin, kaito, etc, are JUST MASCOTS.
I apologize but I don’t get why changing the age of a mascot to fit the creator’s story gives you the ick, it has been done for years in the vocaloid community for storytelling purposes whether it is making them older or younger, for all kinds of songs, comics, MMD series, etc, for sexual songs, disturbing songs, happy songs, sad songs, and sometimes nasty producer don’t even age the characters up for their sexual songs they sometimes even age them down.
It’s insane the amount of disgusting sexual songs about Len as a shota or rin as a loli that people prefer to ignore, but these kinds of songs that try to portray a message about good or bad things get unnecessary hate for stupid reasons. Oh and it’s not that producer’s have to age the mascots up to “get away” with sexual content, they just age them up because they can and want to, and thankfully most do, there’s quite a bunch that prefers to age them down instead, it’s disgusting.
(Also the honkai thing, it’s a parody, it’s not exactly traced, it’s just a PARODY of the original with a different character from a different fandom, this is also not new and something that has been done for years. It’s not stealing, they’re not claiming it as theirs or profiting from it, they themselves said in their video that it is a parody.)
((Also, also, the thing about kids in the gacha community joining the trend, and the older gachatubers making nsfw vids “for kids to stumble upon”…. The kids making those kinds of videos need to be monitored and taught better by their PARENTS it’s not us older gacha kids’ fault, us older gacha users already had our time when we were young and made kids content for ourselves and our audiences, the older gachatubers and adults that are “making nsfw vids for kids to stumble upon” are just the same gacha kids that grew up and no are no longer interested in making kids content and are aware that their audience just like they themselves have grown, and it’s time to move on, change their content, and broaden it, no longer being held back because they were a kid, they are now old and full of ideas, it’s not their fault if unsupervised kids stumble upon their vids and recreate it, they may be adults now but it is not their responsibility to parent random kids on the internet, putting a trigger warning is the most they can do, it is not their fault nor responsibility, they can do as they wish.))
It is miku actually.The whole pure pure thing was just a stupid rumor because someone was mad that their precious miku was sexualized
@@suikabeyea there are lots of different Miku versions (for example project diva has lots of miku versions)
@@Astriel- THIS!
how the hell is 18 too young? it’s the age of majority. it means she’s an adult!!
also she might be 20 or older so don’t assume
Miku technically doesn't have an actual age, she's an instrument. The creators said she could be any age you want her to be, and design her however you want. There are SO MANY versions of Miku and you can search them up. There's also soo many songs including Miku that are s3xual, this is very tame compared to some other songs. I do agree that there needs to be a warning, but many people DO add 16+ to the title, and the parents should be monitoring what their kid is watching on youtube anyway. People can do whatever they want with their channels, they don't have to babysit every single one of their audience. However I do agree with the tw, it could potentially be very triggering to some people.
This is not miku
@@Stardustlolteehee Dude, by that logic, every single Miku that's slightly different isn't Miku. For example, Sakura Miku, Snow Miku etc, they are Mikus but do they look like the original design? No. The original music video of Deco 27 had the same exact character. "Pure Pure" isn't Channel's character, it's Miku. If Deco 27 had the same "character" then how would it be Channel's oc? "Oc" means "original character", it makes no sense if it ISN'T Miku. It's the Miku that appears in the og video. You can go search it up. Tell me that's not the exact same character.
@@Stardustlolteehee I mean the same character appeared in the official video of deco 27. It IS Miku.
Miku's canon age is 16 but your comment is still correct
@@WakeUpEna while miku's "canon" age is 16, they only gave her an age to better market her (which worked because look at all the fanart we have of her). at the end of the day, shes an instrument that was given an anthropomorphic mascot. her age doesnt really matter
Big vocaloid fan here.
I think it’s important to note that there’s plenty of vocaloid songs using the Miku voice that are inappropriate. It’s just like how people listen to English songs and don’t know they’re about sex. It’s not an uncommon thing. There’s plenty of songs that Gacha made popular with sexual topics. My only worry is that people don’t know the lyrics at all and only focus on the beat.
By all means, people should put trigger warnings. And I have seen a really goood rendition of it that wasn’t sexual or completely copying the video, and more importantly, had a trigger warning.
My major issue is, again, people don’t know the song they’re using. Kids shouldn’t be doing the trend. The animation itself is more 16+, and I believe people 16+ should have at it, but put CWs and NOT TRACE. It doesn’t matter if it’s a trend, never trace someone’s work.
I personally love the work. The creator also made the “Miku miku oo ee oo” animation that a lot of people know. I think the Rabbit hole animation was intended to ward off any kids who fled to the channel. The animation itself is really good, but again, younger people should not be watching it as the original intention was to get younger people away (to my knowledge).
This! Trigger warnings are key srs, and even if they put trigger warnings there’s kids that will still watch this kind of stuff because they’re actively seeking it and there’s nothing the creators can do, it is not their fault 😕
Am I allowed to make a non nsfw version?
@@robloxianpersonononI believe you would be able to, as long as any other TWs are stated if there are any.
@@look-at-this-goofy-ahh-rat okay ty
I think the creator said they were allowed to trace the video
(I'm not entirely sure i just seen a whole bunch of people saying it but I could be wrong)
But other than that, I agree with everything else you said ^^
Theres literal trends romanticizing s/a and instead you're making a fuss talking about a song that is showing how superficial love nowdays is
Half of vocaloid wouldn't exist if "omg guys this instrument has a age because someone said so 😱😱😱😱😱😱we can't use it in this song anymore guys :(((" the only exception are vocaloids voiced by children
Saying that its harmfull for kids is very stupid, youtube kids exists guyss
The only issue's she brought awareness to was
- mass copying/tracing of the og animation
- irl minors seeing this content and engaging with it. Making their own equally sexualized rabbit hole video animations.
Sure, it may not be as bad compared to other trends. But that doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to it. Also, YT kids ain't safe either for their own reason that I won't go too in depth into. But if you're curious, search it up on your own time.
@@starrby7790i mean she still quite literally reposted the entire video on her video (but I understand the second point)
She talked abt ppl stealing the og creator work wdym she's making a fuss no one is making a fuss she's stating an opinion a hard one
@@starrby7790 mass tracing isn't being ignored
Making an animation of the trend doesn't put them in any danger(as the only minors that youtube should have is 13+), its different from minors making NSFW drawings, its not even close to soft corn, its just a kinda sexual animation with a "haha" twist at the end
UA-cam kids is not a super safe zone but is deff WAYY safer than actual UA-cam (theres literal irl adult content uploaded here, even if its against the policy of the site) kids younger shouldn't be using the godamn internet, i learned it the worst way possible
The fox like lion and the spider wasn't a big issue like this to you guys last year, even thought is 10x worse than rabbit hole
@@starrby7790that's why CW exist, a random kid without supervision that ignore the warning is not the creators responsabilities
Ok, as a Vocaloid fan, let my clarify this, putting everything about gacha aside:
MIKU IS NOT 16 IN EVERY VIDEO SHE'S IN
16 is the age given to her by CFM (Crypton Future Media), its for marketing
Her age, personality, and even looks can be altered to fit a song, thats the appeal of her and other Vocaloids, you can make her whatever you'd like, for she is an instrument, not a character
Same goes for rin, len, meiko, kaito, and luka
Also, the character in the MV / animation IS Miku, just Deco*27's version of her
Miku isnt a sixteen-year-old girl, shes a singing synthesizer
omg this is pissing me off.
1. Neither channelcast nor deco27 are sexualising minors. Miku's age is not set in stone. She can be anything you want, INCLUDING an adult.
2. y'all sex songs have existed since the dinosaur times stop overreacting once one goes viral. Besides, it doesnt take much thought to know how suggestive it is!
3. Pure Pure isn't real. That is Hatsune Miku.
4. channelcast gets traced, copied and straight-up reuploaded a lot, which is sad
5. i believe that when it comes to iterations i dont mind if adults are doing it but i think there are some more watered-down versions made by more mainstream creators.
I bet the father triceratops singing in a concert about sex
"Pure Pure is not real"
*gasp* ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!
@@juliirubyxITS MIKU DAMN IT
@@Miiko-nano123 so pure pure doesn't exist?? :(
@@juliirubyx yep, she doesn't
I feel like the whole argument, and Idea of this conversation is stupid. Len is put in ALL kind of of situations and its okay, but because Dec27's Mikusona was put in a somewhat provocative position its no longer okay? Not to mention that the song in its entirety isn't wrong; when the animation itself adapted it and added a lot more sexual imagery.
I understand your point with the straight up tracing and copying, but I don’t think “inappropriate” content is something that should be limited or completely shut down. It’s a form of expression like any other and telling people to “just not do that” is like telling an artist to “just not draw”, if that makes sense. Especially when the people participating in the trend are more than likely 16 or over, you can’t expect them to babysit their audience. Most people do put warnings and the people that don’t should be held accountable.
I’d also like to tap into the meaning of the song for a moment - it talks about a “special kind of love”. It’s more so of a rant on how sex and pleasure can be easily manipulated or misconceived as love or romance, and how it gets tiring expecting love out of something as simple and desirable as pleasure.
The trend itself is fine, the content is fine, and watching people reanimate the original is fine. Nothing about it is a direct issue. The people tracing? An issue. The people refusing to put warnings? An issue. But hold those people specifically accountable for their own actions instead of blaming the entire community and people who choose to participate in the trend.
Just personal thoughts of mine, and this is all completely lighthearted argument! I’m not looking for a fight, just wanted to share some pointers ^_^
Thank you for your insight!
I agree with quite a few of your points, and you've made me question my entire opinion on this trend.
Of course, the tracing and not adding warnings is a problem.
I still stand with what I've already said, but it is an interesting topic to go into when it comes to 'sexualized' content. Where is the line drawn between gacha heat and mature content?
(I am debating taking what you've commented and putting it into a whole different video, as it is an interesting point of view when it comes to mature content/trends.)
@@chuthekxtsuneas someone who sadly was on the gacha heat top momento of the community i can say this trend doesn't compare to gacha heat in any aspect, Is not even as explicit Is super innofense compared to gacha heat
My thoughts exactly
@@Cherry-ob7hxyeah its just someone dancing in a bunny costume and people usually change it to be more 'appropriate' for others. And even if they don't then they're of age and use warnings but the original is still sfw trust me there's way worse stuff than swaying you hips infront of the camera with a suit exposing your legs.
I think the rabbit hole song is talking about hypers*xual ( which it include s/a ).
But I think this trend is not kid or family friendly, but I see it is around like 16+ ( which it is different 18+ [ in my opinion] totally different ).
Really? There's nothing about the English lyrics that feels hypersexual. It's a cool interpretation and can be twisted into a story about hypersexuality, it feels more like a girl who wants sex without the commitment of a romantic relationship. I could be biased though, as both a long-time DECO*27 song and an allosexual aromantic who's desperate for representation, it doesn't seem to touch hypersexuality. I feel like Two-Faced Lovers is a better example of hypersexuality after assault/being used/general trauma..
@@Gacha_Otomen well to me the image is 1 million words and usually when u translate Japanese into English is usually sometimes wrong and I see in my own interpretation
Plus during the end she getting bored or just tired which it an effect of being hypers*dual like you get bored of being just a toy/doll/plaything/etc.
@@-lisagaming-3390 I know my other friend who controls this account speaks Japanese. I might ask them if theirs any words with certain connotations.
@@Gacha_Otomen cool and nice
it's not about hypersexuality, if you focus in the English lyrics you'll see that it has nothing to do with hypersexualism.
ok, its supposed to be sexual, this is literally just like the money money green green trend 😭
If I don't understand what they are defending so much 😭, I mean, if the trend were animated in a horrible way there would be negative comments
@@XD-zg4pn i understand why, but if the video was uploaded, it should've been like age restricted or smtn (I know children will use their parent's device whatever-).
the song is about being addicted to sex.. i have no clue why people are getting so fussy. Miku isint even 16
If you guys heard the older provocative vocaloid songs then youd flip
also these videos arent copying unless theyre not linking the original piece, thats the definition of trends. The repeating of something by groups of people. I agree people should take a hand at animating the trend themselves and not trace the original art.. But please dont make a problem where there isint one.
why is every trend dying in like 2 seconds (but the fact that you said something about MINORS doing this trend is very true.)
Thank God I'm not the only one who has mixed feelings about this trend
+ a point most people ignore: the blue hair girl in the original video is not Miku, it is a character called Pure Pure. The character appears in the original video, although it looks like Miku, it does not have the same age setting as Miku. The voice is the only thing that is Miku's.
LATE EDIT: GUYS IT _IS_ MIKU JUST THAT HERE MIKU IS AN ADULT
It is miku ,deco*27 said so
It is miku, DECO*27 confirmed it
To those saying deco*27 said its miku, thats the person who made the song not the animation, the person who made the animation (channelcaststation) said its a different character.
@@Ech0Wcue they are literally the same character check the MV
@@suikabe the one in MV is by deco*27 both the voicebank and character there is miku, but the one made by channelcaststation (the animation) is another character, even the description of the animation video said is a different character.
Ok, part of this is correct, but the rest is... Tiktok user sensitivity level😭miku is not 16,miku has no age, her marketing age is 16 but miku herself is not 16,please do research on miku before saying "ThEy'rE sExUaLiZiNg A mInOr" like I've had enough with people being sensitive, like I quit tiktok because of how toxic and sensitive the community was there, and now the same thing is happening on UA-cam, at this point I might just switch to insta😭😭
Same 😭😭
I ain't about miku, it's the fact that in this trend people are handcuffing themselves to a pole 💀
here’s something you missed::
miku is just called 16 because of her lore, but she’s technically an instrument that you can age up or age down
amd also miku is not 16 in the video, it’s a version of miku that’s aged up nicknamed pure pure
thank you for saying nicknamed omg, everyone keeps trying to say that pure pure is an oc but its literally just another ver of miku like sakura miku but her fanon name, which keeps getting used as canon is pure pure
not even nicknamed deco never said anything abt pure pure existed
@@gaymichaelafton i mean she was nicknamed, just by the fandom
Vocaloids have no canon lore or age, the age they have are for marketing only. In most songs they are in, their lore changes
Pure Pure is a rumor. It's just the Short's title that can be interpreted as "The SFW version", which was deleted. The current one on ChannelCastStation's channel is called "Pure Pure (Not)", which can be said as the NSFW version. It's Miku, and you'll live despite that piece of information, believe it or not.
Are you sure?
@@erm_what_the_spruce I'm trying not to spread misinformation but ykyk I'm pretty sure it's a fact
Also, correction: 'Pure Pure' is a lyric from the song. And that wasn't referring to the character. It was an adjective °∆° Which proves my point more.
Pure Pure is still up, it was never deleted. Pure Pure (not), however, is unlisted. You mixed the two up.
@@UnderworldPrincesslol I'm pretty sure it was up for a temporary time while the SFW one was unlisted. As of today, yeah, the Pure Pure one is back.
Besides the tracing, i really don't see anything wrong with the original animation/trend versions. This is genuinely one of the least inappropriate or weird vocaloid songs i've heard ever- look up the lyrics to plus boy, its about a literal teen (but don't if you don't like sexual content and stuff). Also, making "sus" content like this is fine, imo
Plus this girl thinks 18 is too young…. THATS SO GENUINELY ABSURD
@@daphnxz yeah. most people witness some form of inappropriate content at like 12.
@@erzeca right i had a corn addiction at 8😭😭
@@gaymichaelaftonsame 💀
yall.. that's not okay if you had addictions like *that* at 8 or younger. you're easier to take advantage of them
channelcaststation actually allow parody as long as u credit them lol.(info from the template file desc.) they also upload the animation template that can be downloaded for free on their fanbox acc too
Gacha community will excuse gacha heat as long as it's well made if it's bad then BOO GACHA HEAT EW
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People mature overtime, of course you will see more adult-related content. The community is growing up. Not to excuse the so called 'gacha heat' that people make and seek for attention, that's just bad
yea we maturing now so now we're supposed to see Miku become a str!pper 💀 @@suborn
That's not what i was implying but okay-
@@WhyAmISoAddictedToMangoesLol have you heard of plus boy?
FINALLY, SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT THE TRACING ASPECT THAT'S PROBLEMATIC!
Honestly, this is NOT NEW. LUVVORATORY was likely a song about Gumi and Rin wanting sex. We used a Vocaloid song about *sexual abuse* (Gommene Gommene/I'm Sorry) for a trend because the scream was nice. Maybe I'm biased, but the Rabbit Hole feels like a good allo-aro representation, ("Tired of the fluff, I just want to be railed" / "Take your maiden-hearted ideals on over to the door" / "You thirsty for me? Could you stop being cringy?" Just some English lyrics I relate to as an aromantic bisexual) and I am pissed that so many people take a problem with it. We use sexual Vocaloid songs all the time, many of them about rape. Yet a song about consensual sex is problematic, because???
We should acknowledge the more harsh issue, the tracing and "heavy inspo" that feels more like plagiarism. The trend is just tracing and calling it original.
Bro as soon as i could heat the song i started singing my heart out😂
Idc about the meaning, the song SLAPS
Someone: I love rabbit hole omg
Me: FALL INTO THE RABBIT HOLE AGAIN-
THE NOSTALGIAAA
People are so shocked about the song's lyrics and animation but this is actually not the first thing like that. As a vocaloid fan, inappropriate songs are pretty popular here, songs that describe s#x, literal crimes, s/a, dr*gs ect. Some songs have way way WORSE PV's/animations, trust me. Vocaloids are literal instruments with no actual age and you can age them up or down, but mostly people go with 16 for Miku, 14 for Kagamine duo and blah blah blah. My honest opinion? The fact that it is a trend IS kinda weird but let people do what they want as long as it doesn't harm anyone, videos from this trend are SUPPOSED to have a trigger warning and be AT LEAST 15/16+ if it's actually NSFW (i've seen some SFW versions of this trend). But also there are and were many gacha trends normalizing/romanticizing s/a and nobody bats an eye, which is actually bugging me. Honestly, i'm confused on the whole is it Pure Pure or Miku thing.
Just an information, the blue hair girl is not miku
ua-cam.com/video/JPujEsRl8wc/v-deo.htmlsi=CJnWCIrB7znJgyv0
The description says:
Notice
※That isn't Hatsune Miku, she's someone else named Pure Pure.
※The characters in the work are all adults.
※It is a character that appears in the original MV of the song, and although it borrows Miku's design, it is a separate character that does not follow Miku's age setting.
Pure Pure doesn't exist, the og mv is in fact featuring Miku
@@LuniIsHere the character is PURE PURE, but the voice is MIKU, "feat Miku" mean that Miku is the one that sing the song, not the character
It is miku ,deco*27 said so
@@suikabe oh, well, my bad, I thought she was a different character because of the hair and the face
ANOTHER PERSON THAT AGREES WITH ME THANK GOD.
I remember when months ago (or a year i forgot) Deco 27 posted the song, and I wa sactually suprised at how sexualised the song was, butv oclaoid music has always been perverted in a way. Take Len for example. He is 14 and has multiple inappropriate songs that are sung by him, yet people brush it off as a joke.
Anyways Miku and al of the vocaloids do have ages but that doesnt restrict producers from using them in songs with innappropriate meanings. Plus, the character who sings isnt exactly miku herself, just different versions that are used in Deco 27s songs (which i inferred from mannequin).
However this short honestly is overrated and the gacha community doing this as a trend really suprised me as there are literal kids here who shouldnt see this content.
(Last thing although its irrelevant kinda but im suprised this short was even made, like the song was released quite a while ago. Im even more suprised that this community decided to take part in this trend although i shouldnt it was basically inevitable at this point.)
sorry if theres speling errors i cant type
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if you wanted the people in the video or related to the situation not to get harassed, why add they’re Display and actual UA-cam name? Why didn’t you just blur it, or not even add it into the video.
Good point, but the purpose of displaying the name is for the sake of showing evidence to back up what I am saying.
It shows the problem and who is contributing to it so that people are aware of that particular individual contributing to the problem.
Not showing the name wouldn't matter much anyway, considering people could recognize the video and immediately go hunt for this individual.
But that isn't the big picture. The LARGEST reason why I display the name is that I LEGALLY CAN NOT leave the name out.
I legally can't take someone's video and put it in mine (even if I am debunking it) without some form of credit to who made it.
Even the video I displayed was traced. Within legal reasons, I still have to give credit to who made it.
Honestly, the only type of credit I know how to use is either show the channel name or link the video in the description.
(Linking the video would of given easier access to the other person's channel, so it wouldn't be the most ethical.)
It's like reposting someone's content without giving credit. Even though I am debunking the content itself, I still have to give credit to who made that content.
I hope this clears the confusion :]
(Side note: People should learn how to be decent human beings and not go harass people on the internet; channel name given or not.)
@@chuthekxtsune oh. Understandable
@@chuthekxtsune you will not go to jail for reuploading an animation what are you talking about
@@chuthekxtsune well they wont. dont put peoples nameson videos against them. common sense.
I think I'm the only one who learned to not join the trend, I'd stick with AVIVA's rabbit hole rather than DECO*27.
Aviva’s rabbit hole brings back sm memories lol 😭
@@Novaurawr WAIT YES
Same
Real.
I liked the song before it became popular, and whenever I say I like the song, people judge me for being inappropriate and are always like, "oMg Me ToO wE aRe So TrEnDy LOL!!" LIKE bruh, who ever said I only like the song bc of the trend.. 😭
to the people in the comments saying this isnt miku, it is! "pure pure" is the first line of the song and it was a mistranslated tweet! :3
miku has no "canon" age her age is fanon, she was only made a minor fanonly so more people would get into vocaloid back in the early days :/
its only weird if the va for the vocaloid is a minor, in which suki is not. people never care when its len, who is fanonly younger and is involved heavily in sh0t4 content, such as w/ plus boy.
This trend is just heat lmao
Yea but ppl justify it bcuz apparently if it's well animated 😭
What do you think it's about sex 😭
Tell me you never see heat without telling me you never see heat:
@@cacabumbalaka LITERALLY, but these people overreact
@@MsAtH3N4 SO REAL
Seriously tho like why would people make this trend 😭 and the thing is ALMOST EVERYONE THAT MADE IT DIDNT PUT A WARNING AT ALL LIKE ATLEAST PUT A WARNING IF YOUR GONNA MAKE THIS STUFF
They can do the trend because they want to, nothing wrong with it, but the lack of trigger warnings is annoying, and I’m not even saying it bc of kids watching it(well that too), bc kids that are actively seeking it will still watch it, but there’s adults and teen adults that don’t want to watch suggestive stuff and avoid it, and a lack of a trigger warning for it is just shitty and annoying.
@@Astriel- seriously tho like so far i’ve only seen TWO people put trigger warnings. TWO PEOPLE
@@Miss_M00nlight lucky you I haven’t seen a SINGLE TRIGGER WARNING 😭
@@Astriel- oh dang that sucks 😭
@@Miss_M00nlightI haven't seen one with a TW 😭
The character's name in the animation isn't Pure Pure, nor is it Miku!!! Pure Pure was stated to show that the animation was supposed to be the SFW version. Channel doesn't actually name the character in the comment they put. This is also why the post of the NSFW version says "Pure Pure (not)" Because its not the SFW version. Also the character is an adult. Just letting you guys know this to avoid misinformation.
there is actually a miku bunny suit figure somewhere on the web, so yeah miku in a bunny suit was first before rabit hole
the ending is probably the worst part tbh T-T but yeah I agree the trend is not explicit on its own, but it triggers dirty thoughts depending on someones age. Tho just wanna point out that some gachatubers that did the trend did not make it innappropriate, and rather did a more nuanced way, but with overall the "same idea" the tracing part tho... thats concerning T-T
That's resolved with putting an "+16" and that's it, if someone ignores it Is not the creators fault
@@Cherry-ob7hx Are we going to ignore that it's a kids game and making that content breaks Gacha's TOS or what 💀
@@Party-dog Is a dress up game anybody can use it even if the game Is for kids the community has teens and adults
fun fact: that wasnt hastune miku in a rabbit suit, that was pure pure. (if u search up the original song)
My only issue is that the creator of the animation had a problem with the age restriction when it was quite literally made for adults. "Oh no, my sexual video got AGE RESTRICTED! good then i appealed it and it went away :3"
kids are gonna get exposed to it if its not leaning to just adults.
@@referrtosomeone why would kids have social media such as youtube, when theres apps for kids only?
@@jatterpo I like how you say that when the majority of people who read my comment most likely had unrestricted access to internet, UA-cam's moderation is still as shit as it was earlier on and most parents today still don't moderate the media their children consume, + rabbit hole and other suggestive animations are easy to find on shorts. Since it's a shorts trend, and kids usually go on shorts it's almost entirely their audience, content farms aimed towards kids are usually suggestive aswell, so that'd expose them to that kind of stuff too working with the algorithm.
@@referrtosomeone you can't blame artists and entertainers for other people's irresponsibility. if i agree that suggestive work on a platform such as this should have warnings, it is not appropriate to criticize the people who make these kinds of animations (and a minority of them do it to make a living) as if they should act as babysitters and say what they can or cannot upload.
as i already said, there are applications that are exactly for children. i myself had unrestricted access to the Internet since i was little, and that has had its consequences. but with all due respect, i believe that the people who should have responsibility are the parents, not the animators.
adults should know what their children can and cannot see, along with the information they should have before becoming a parent. in short, being a RESPONSIBLE father. you can't expect the internet to be a daycare.
children should not be on this platform.
even so, i agree with you that caststation should not have removed the age restriction, but knowing that there are tutorials on youtube made to be able to remove that filter, would it help?
you know that miku is just a singing machine and you can make her anything you want her to be 💀 deco 37 feautures versions of miku. pure pure is miku. And they are ALL miku.
as someone who plays the game, the gacha kids needs to stay out of this bro, miku has made tons of nsfw songs but people are bringing this one because it happend to blow up.
I thought it was originally from pure pure which is a character who’s 18+ but the design is inspired off Miku which is why there so similar but idk
Miku is not 16 years old. 16 is her marketing age, but Miku actually has no age. You can lower her age and also make her age higher, you can design her whatever you want, Miku is an instrument. There are many versions of Hatsune Miku. There are also many s3x songs that features Hatsune Miku that are about romance. The trend itself is fine. That isnt actual Miku but a version of Miku nicknamed Pure Pure. You mentioned that 18 is still a young age?! How? You're already an adult if you are 18. People should put warnings. Instead of BLAMING on them for participating and tracing it, maybe you shall just talk about it yourself and you are not supposed to BABYSIT their audience.
Woopsies, uhh, I made the trend, uhmm but like, only part of the video?? I didn't even know the OG vid. :'D + I didn't trace or anything, so uhmmm should I unlist it??
No, you're fine! Unlisting it wouldn't do anything anyway.
You don't have control over what people make when it comes to trends, so it isn't your fault.
@@chuthekxtsune okayyy ty!!!
so is it alright if i still participate in this trend without s**uallising my oc?
(I'll put a trigger warning if needed) since the beginning of the trend i wasn't sure if i can participate in it...(cuz i care for my audience yk?)
I genuinely could care less about the trend lol
Honestly, its kind of pathetic that sadi1v is making most of the new gacha trends. I feel like the community is just drifting away without her at this point.
RIGHTTT like literally is not that hard to be original
Personally, I think the rabbit hole trend is fine if it's people who are 18+ participating in it. To me I think it's the fact that Minors are interacting with this Trend. The song itself is indirectly talking about people or rather the character Pure Pure, only wanting the sexual aspect of relationships. Hence the line "If you get lonely, find anybody, just get lucky" in the chorus and "Burst and scramble, we're instant lovers" in verse 3. The song itself has a sexual undertone and should've never been introduce to minors and the Gacha community. If you have to bust your behind to make a sfw version of the trend, don't bother making a trend like this in a community that involves minors.
I have nothing to say in reference of the song and Miku being used as Len himself has been used in explicit songs likeSacred Spear Explosion Boy and Spice, but I don't see anyone complaining about those just as much about this. Bringing up Miku's age in reference to these kinds of song is counterintuivtive as Len is 14(The age assinged to him).
The gacha community isn't only for kids and more than just a game, Is a big help for animators who can't draw or are still practicing or simply prefer an easier way for they content, with that in mind.. why should gacha animators over 16 force to be family friendly? Is like telling a NSFW artist to not draw NSFW bc kids can watch? Despise the fact the this artist put the necessary warnings in their drawings? Is unfair and i understand Is gacha and you know gacha heat, but i can tell you this trend Is not even close to what gacha heat was those days not even, gacha heat was explicit sometimes not even well edited without warnings or anything, this trend Is something suggestive but with effort and some even make it more family friendly Is not even a comparision
@@Cherry-ob7hx I never said it was only for kids, I said the community involves minors. Animation or not, it's just my take on the situation and my personal opinion. I'm just sharing my own thoughts. Please don't misinterpret my words as what should be done, but It's simply how I feel about it.
@@Lotus_Rivers Any community involves minors and you say the trend should stay away the gacha community so i understand you think gachatubers should be always family friendly
@@Cherry-ob7hx Kinda? I'm not to sure on my take on that. I'd suggest warnings, if that's the route they wanna go. I'm mostly concerned about the fact that people under 16 are doing this trend. Like I said, please take everything I said with a grain of salt. I'm not suggesting that people should be family friendly solely because of the game they play.
It's like sexualised toxic relationship that's why😅
hiii ^^ sorry if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure the song isn't *just* about... adult love... but i've heard it's actually about a girl who only feels love while she's... doing... intimate(?) activities (sorry i'm trying to dance around the wordplay) hence why she's handcuffed to the pole. (i apologise if i'm wrong)
Its simple. If you don't like the trend, ignore it. I respect your opinion, and yes it it inappropriate but it is a good animation whatsoever. And minors can do this trend but I don't think its okay that they draw nsfw. Other than that, people do do sfw versions of this trend. (idk why you put " ' " I between versions can u pls explain? I'm genuinely asking) And Many adults (18+) do this trend so I don't see the problem tbh-. Unnecessary rant imo. Nothing wrong with the trend. I feel like you're upset bc it has "Nsfw" even tho an adult made it.
In fact she is not Hatsune Miku, she is a character called Pure Pure, they made her based on Miku
even if this was miku, much of the world has 16 as the age of consent. there is nothing special about the age of 18, some places even go higher to 19
I honestly tried the trend , but not the heat kind of one this time so no one will hate on me. Or also I looked at the English Lyrics , so I moved it to when it says "Puh puh puh"
just saying, pure pure is at least 21! :3
the trend itself is just users putting their characters into the animation by replacing pure pure! yes, there are a few users who have CLEARLY traced, but simply recreating the video isn't the same as stealing or copying if it's a clear 1:1 copy of the original (with the exception of the character being used or some users changing certain suggestive aspects of the animation)! and with the adult theme of the trend, it's really not that bad compared to others? the video is suggestive at most and the lyrics are about how love is superficial and hypers3xuality is the singer's only way of feeling loved...
all in all, compared to other trends and vocaloid songs, it's really not that bad at all and there are way worse issues. imo the only problem is the tracing 😭😭😭😭
Finally someone understands my pain with this dang trend😅 but see, if someone was trying to tell someone this, they would get wronged for it..
Oop…? welp hi again!! on 0:06 is this allowed for atleast 10 or 9? and ik it may contain s3xual topics but the topics in the video is it allowed to watch for 10 or 9? If it’s a no then I completely understand
the example you gave was not someone tracing, the creator of the animation literally put the base up on twt for people to use 😭
Ppl mostly say “oH tHatS weIrd” or “oH tHatS nSfW” that wasn’t nsfw at all.. Ppl r just not mature- like its an outfit.. or like probably like the dances.. ur just not mature- Plus Miku isn’t 16💀 (she’s technically ages old), but it wasn’t sexuality or rlly anything bad.
Vocaloid fan here
Miku is an instrument! She doesn’t have an age, *she’s just Miku.*
It is spread and said a lot that Miku is 16 and other vocaloids like Rin and Len are 14 and Kaito but these are just very popular due to Crypto making them those ages for merchandise (to an extent, idk how else to say to word it unfortunately :,3)
I’m still very shocked how people still don’t know that Miku doesn’t have an age and that her being 16 isn’t exactly true. She’s just an instrument! You can change her any way you want, her hair, her eyes, her age, her outfit, etc.!
Obviously as a vocaloid fan, I have heard of *MANY* sexual songs that use Miku, Rin, Len, etc. (Some popular ones being Plus Boy, Ifuudoudou, Romeo and Cinderella, and more) All of these songs were passed as “normal” and “cool”
I just simply don’t understand the hate to Rabbit Hole because “Miku is 16” :<
This is just my personal opinion on all of this tho •w• I’m not a gacha fan anymore but it’s just a trend, it’ll pass on (I believe it already has if I’m not mistaken)
I’m not gonna argue on here, arguing in a yt comment section is stupid. :T
thank you for not mentioning miku's canonnical age, because one of the main complaints i see is that mikus cannon age is quote on quote "16" which is not true as miku is a vocaloied character so the age of miku all depends on the way your creativity is. Conclusion miku's age is whatever you draw her age to be there is no "cannon" age
Thank the lord. So many people are spreading misinfo regardinh this trend and it angers me that most of those ppl dont know sht about deco*27's music
i swear to god the trend devoured our fyp
also the osu gameplays steal form others to💀💀
Btw people can trace with permission or if they need help with drawing and animating. There's nothing wrong with that.
Me who literally did this trend but didn’t post it: uh should i be here rn??
edit: im a 9 year old who did this XD
The creator of the trend already said in the description that she's not featuring miku, she's instead featuring pure pure that's NOT minor and have older age than miku, she just have a similar design
(I think pure pure is an au of miku where she have older age but for the song, I think it is sing by Miku)
Also Miku is a robot right? So miku's age can be changed depends on her au/appearance
this is basically correct, since pure pure is a fanon name given to that specific version of miku
i think the description was set like that to try and push off the backlash from the west, since people seem to get mad over the fact that "miku is 16" when shes literally an instrument
1st: the creator gave permission to copy it and posted the fucking template.
2nd: there’s no nudity, so it’s fine. It’s not UA-cam kids, let artists live.
2:25 EXACTLY. The song is sexual, of course the memes are going to be atleast a lil bit NSFW.
What's the point of 'changing' the description. I don't see anything good in it
GUYS, IF YOU GO TO THE OG ANIMATORS CHANNEL THEN YOU WOULD SSEE THAT THEY SAID ITS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT CHARACTER FROM MIKU THAT DOESN'T FOLLOW HER AGE SETTINGS-
miku is ann insturment they dont have ages + its miku.
@@gaymichaelafton yeah but her offical age is 16 and it doesn't change. the animator said it was a seperate character that doesn't follow her age settings. Deco 27 is just using her voice
I'm made rabbit hole trend with short version
hi! actually, pure pure isn't a oc :D !! she's just a mikusona !!! i hope you can understand that ^_^
miku is just a voicebank, and she doesn't have ANY canon age! but when she does, it's only for merchandise purposes!
think of miku as a character you can play and dress up with ^D^ if she really WAS an oc, DECO*27 would've clarified it :3
there are tons of vocaloid songs following this theme such as ifuudoudou, plus boy, rin-chan now & many many more! it's only a problem when they're actually keeping their ages as 14, 16, smth smth (ESPECIALLY WITH KAAI YUKI.. her voice provider is a child) .. T_T this song is based on hypersexuality, so i see why you'd get concerned if any children come across it..
and the name "Pure Pure" is only a lyric, so don't get it mixed up :D (sorry for my VERY bad grammar !! english isn't my first language ^^ and i hope this doesn't anger or offend you in any way :3)
I'm a vocaloid fan since 2018 ill explain everything
Basically some of these NewGens think it's pure pure, she's not, its Hatsune Miku in the video, if im correct, Deco Made every miku ocs for his/her songs (ex. Vampire, Cinderella, Dilemma, Animal ETC) and some ppl thought that deco confirmed in his/her mv is pure pure, ITS A FRICKING LYRICS FOR THE SONG, and when they see some vids about "It's miku" they straight up and commented "its pure pure, deco Confirmed it!!" ITS NOT PURE PURE, ITS A MIKU VARIANT, you never heard of Snow Miku, Sakura Miku, ETC. btw Miku's Canon Age is none, the 16 thing is just for marketing purposes
Welp time to sleep ^^^
Also they thought the original mv is from channel wtf 💀💀💀💀
Sorry for this
Actually some of the people who did this trend did add credits
Like me i guess
The following is everything wrong with this video and wow there is a lot. Please do research into vocal synths.
Everything incorrect (in order)
1. The animation was not meant to trigger the dirty side of things as the lyrics already contain adult content
2. It's very much NSFW. Deco*27 uses adult themes a lot
3. Not really a incorrect part but if you are against something then why show the whole entire thing
4. "Yikes..." Adult songs exist. Welcome to vocaloid
5. Wow it's point 4 again. If something is that much of an issue then why show the full thing twice
6. Warnings are there for a reason. There is no way to truly stop minors from viewing adult content.
7. Here it is. Please don't say info if you don't know what you are talking about. Miku is not 16, Cryptonloids have no canon and only have a marketing age. The reason why is due to the sales of two other characters flopping. The characters are Kaito and Meiko.
Miku has sung adult songs in official games and concerts. 16 is not a set age.
Bonus from description update
1. Once again this can't be helped. As long as kids ignore the social media guidelines, this will be an issue
2. So the original video is actually a lot worse than both trend versions and is the reason why it's titled "pure pure". Cast station's biggest platform is tw1tt3r and all animations they have done have been posted there first. There is a highly adult version on tw1tt3r.
3. There is nothing misunderstood about the lyrics and no current confirmed meaning. All we know is it is to do with sex. The following are some of the most popular theories.
- The song is about wanting sex to feel anything
- The song is about how romance and sex are seen by society
- The song is about the adult industry
- The song has links to r4p3
-Hypersexuality
- Rabbits have sex a lot and the song talks about this
4. It is Miku. Both Deco*27 and Cast station has confirmed this.
5. Lux Miku commerical where Miku is portrayed as an adult shows us that she has no set age. It's also cursed but offically liscened by CFM, Sega and piapro. All of them have the rights to Miku.
I personally don't like this meme as most people will just do the suggestive part of the pole and like you
said cause many people to do the same including children
I rather see a YABABAINA than this
Miku doesn't has an actual age tho. And the girl in the video it's not Miku, it's a character inspired on her (Character's name was Pure Pure I guess idk).
The pure pure thing is misinformation
The character in the vid IS miku, just a different version of her
@@airifanfrfr Indeed the character is Miku, not "Pure Pure"
@@airifanfrfr OH SORRY SJDHDHS
@@Coda_TheRobloxian sorry D:
the deco miku in the vid is an aged up version of miku, nicknamed pure pure.
non vocaloid fans understand nothing about songs like these, ever heard of masa works design?
Miku doesn't have a canon age so it doesn't matter at all, unless the creator decides to keep her as 16.
The HSR animation wasn't stealing, channel said you can trace but give credit 😭 (I think)
people get mad about vocaloid songs like these but they don't get mad about real life songs featuring s3x topics at all. 💀 you should do research about miku and look into what channel said in the comments before misunderstanding the whole thing.
and why are people mentioning the other rabbit hole song it has almost nothing to do with this, they just share a name.
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Oh boy another one of these. Firstly.
It's adult content, if a child interacts with it then that's not the fault of the creator
Everything incorrect (in order)
1. The animation was not meant to trigger the dirty side of things as the lyrics already contain adult content
2. It's very much NSFW. Deco*27 uses adult themes a lot
3. Not really a incorrect part but if you are against something then why show the whole entire thing
4. "Yikes..." Adult songs exist. Welcome to vocaloid
5. Wow it's point 4 again. If something is that much of an issue then why show the full thing twice
6. Warnings are there for a reason. There is no way to truly stop minors from viewing adult content.
7. Here it is. Please don't say info if you don't know what you are talking about. Miku is not 16, Cryptonloids have no canon and only have a marketing age. The reason why is due to the sales of two other characters flopping. The characters are Kaito and Meiko.
Miku has sung adult songs in official games and concerts. 16 is not a set age.
Bonus from description update
1. Once again this can't be helped. As long as kids ignore the social media guidelines, this will be an issue
2. So the original video is actually a lot worse than both trend versions and is the reason why it's titled "pure pure". Cast station's biggest platform is tw1tt3r and all animations they have done have been posted there first. There is a highly adult version on tw1tt3r.
3. There is nothing misunderstood about the lyrics and no current confirmed meaning. All we know is it is to do with sex. The following are some of the most popular theories.
- The song is about wanting sex to feel anything
- The song is about how romance and sex are seen by society
- The song is about the adult industry
- The song has links to r4p3
-Hypersexuality
- Rabbits have sex a lot and the song talks about this
4. It is Miku. Both Deco*27 and Cast station has confirmed this.
5. Lux Miku commerical where Miku is portrayef as an adult shows us that she has no set age. It's also cursed but offically liscened by CFM, Sega and piapro. All of them have the rights to Miku.
why is twitter censored
@@yourhighnessshanzay Because sometimes yt hides my comments when I say it or channels have it as a blocked word
I have to say this
It wasn't copying. It's called parody. God damn it, why r u so immature
On a note: The tracing is allowed! The owner of the animation said so! :]]] Thats why people trace
*its
Honestly, I really respect everyone's opinion, but like, why are you all so bothered by a simple animation where this character isn't even real? Yes the animation is suggestive and really inappropriate, but like, if so, Why not just complain to the creator of the animation or just ignore it? I think it's a waste of your time for you to express an opinion that won't change anything about the animation or the change in the creator of the animation to exclude it??(No HATE PLS I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE WASTING YOUR PRECIOUS TIME 😭)
miku is 16
Vocaloids don't have canon lore
The age is just for marketing
Most vocaloid songs changes their lore and age if needed
Miku's creators said it themselves
miku is an instrument with an age set for better marketing
The mean of the song omg is disgusting💀☠
not that bad tho
You arent familiar with Vocaloid arent you?
@@Cherry-ob7hx no im not
@@Starlight00987wait till u see plus boy or masas song😭🙏
@@minoriri. no no please no
The fact that Miku is 16 though, she’s not even 18, and the animation is 18+, she’s not 18, they’re make NSFW of a minor, I know it’s just a fictional character, but I think it’s disgusting, for example, Miku was sexualized in a video, with an 89 year old man
the miku in the vid is aged up so dw
Miku can be ANY age in any songs. Plus deco nor channel have NEVER tell the character in the video/animation is PURE PURE not miku. Yall tweaking when u heard innappopriate song using mikus voice, wait till u see plus boy.
Miku is 16 for marketing. Shes an instrument and her age changes with each song.
tell me you're a new vocaloid fan without telling me you're a new vocaloid fan
@@minoriri. i think they'd start frothing at the mouth from gigantic OTN 💀
miku is an instrument lmao
Bro I hate rants go quit your channel your just ruining the community-
fact: Miku still 16 year old doesn't mean do something sexual thing at her