No doubt both are good bows. But one is at the excellent end of good and one is between the bottom and middle of good. That Hoyt has it all going for it in every category over the Prime. The performance regardless of draw length is undeniable and carries far more value than "feel". Aesthetically there is no real comparison, Hoyt all day. Will have to ding the Hoyt for price though, it is ridiculously expensive. But again, both are good bows, and kudos to Prime for going outside the box in its thinking and approach, that can not go unappreciated.
How is the Form, a flagship bow that runs $1600, "between the bottom and middle of good"? I shot ALL of the new flagships this year back to back to back. The Prime, Darton, & Expedition felt the best to me, with the Hoyt, Mathews, & Elite coming in behind them.
@@redleg318fa because feel is subjective and vastly overrated. I am not knocking the Prime, its just aesthetically subjective and its slower considerably than the Hoyt and Mathews offerings when everything is equal. Doesn't make it bad, its just not as good as. Still a good bow no doubt! I shoot a lot of bows every year. I don't base my opinions or points of view on 5 yards of shooting in a shop based on a "feel". What numbers does it put, how does it aim and hold at distance, how quiet is it. All factors that actually matter in a hunting bow to me. This year I have the Mathews and Hoyt aluminum bows ahead of everyone else slightly, with the edge to Mathews, followed by Darton and Elite with an edge to Darton (based only on tuning features), then a toss up between Bowtech and Prime, then PSE, then Obsession/Martin/Bear, then Xpedition (based entirely on them overpricing themselves comparatively). The bottom line, no really bad bows, all are good, all will punch tags, and its a great time to be a bowhunter.
@ The Prime for me shooting 70/29"/425-430gr is getting 284-288fps for me on average. The draw felt better for me, yes the Hoyt was nice it just didnt feel like it wanted to be in my hand. The Darton came in a CLOSE 2nd, had a nicer draw but didnt hold as well. Then came Mathews, Hoyt, Bowtech, and Elite for me. The Artus was heavy. I love this stuff man, it really is a great time to be into archery.
Will you compare the best 2 bows of 2025? The Mach 33 and Mathews 33 x. I'm a bowtech guy but I do feel the best 2 bows are Mach 33 and 33x . They draw the smoothest and lightest and fastest for draw cycle
One is less than $1,500 and one is not. I'm not sure about everyone else, but once I get my bow tuned, I really don't have a reason for "the easier one."
So at 27.5 the prime will hit 258 with that arrow and the Hoyt would probably hit 274. Big difference, but I'd be running a different mod on the Hoyt. Great video though
At 28.5 the averages were Form 277fps, Hoyt 283fps, take an inch off the draw and that would make the Form around 270 and RX9U about 273. Comes down to preference really, both are great bows and are pretty evenly matched at any draw lower than 30. I shoot a 428gr, 70lb, 29in and Im getting 289fps average with a few flukes hitting 292 on my Form.
Prime bow is nothing but a gimmick … either u buy aluminum or straight carbon … why have a hybrid when I can have the whole damn penning carbon? Especially with companies like PSE and Hoyt specializing. It’s like they are 15 years too late. This is some early 2000s shit.
Zack and I are basically best buddies after our phone call so I had to come help the algorithm and check out that awesome draw😉😂😂
RX9 Ultra all day every day. The Prime might be a little more digestible in a black riser but there's no way I could get past that look.
You need the performance mods for the Prime. They aren’t out yet though.
No doubt both are good bows. But one is at the excellent end of good and one is between the bottom and middle of good. That Hoyt has it all going for it in every category over the Prime. The performance regardless of draw length is undeniable and carries far more value than "feel". Aesthetically there is no real comparison, Hoyt all day. Will have to ding the Hoyt for price though, it is ridiculously expensive. But again, both are good bows, and kudos to Prime for going outside the box in its thinking and approach, that can not go unappreciated.
How is the Form, a flagship bow that runs $1600, "between the bottom and middle of good"? I shot ALL of the new flagships this year back to back to back. The Prime, Darton, & Expedition felt the best to me, with the Hoyt, Mathews, & Elite coming in behind them.
@@redleg318fa because feel is subjective and vastly overrated. I am not knocking the Prime, its just aesthetically subjective and its slower considerably than the Hoyt and Mathews offerings when everything is equal. Doesn't make it bad, its just not as good as. Still a good bow no doubt! I shoot a lot of bows every year. I don't base my opinions or points of view on 5 yards of shooting in a shop based on a "feel". What numbers does it put, how does it aim and hold at distance, how quiet is it. All factors that actually matter in a hunting bow to me. This year I have the Mathews and Hoyt aluminum bows ahead of everyone else slightly, with the edge to Mathews, followed by Darton and Elite with an edge to Darton (based only on tuning features), then a toss up between Bowtech and Prime, then PSE, then Obsession/Martin/Bear, then Xpedition (based entirely on them overpricing themselves comparatively). The bottom line, no really bad bows, all are good, all will punch tags, and its a great time to be a bowhunter.
@ The Prime for me shooting 70/29"/425-430gr is getting 284-288fps for me on average. The draw felt better for me, yes the Hoyt was nice it just didnt feel like it wanted to be in my hand. The Darton came in a CLOSE 2nd, had a nicer draw but didnt hold as well. Then came Mathews, Hoyt, Bowtech, and Elite for me. The Artus was heavy. I love this stuff man, it really is a great time to be into archery.
Will you compare the best 2 bows of 2025? The Mach 33 and Mathews 33 x. I'm a bowtech guy but I do feel the best 2 bows are Mach 33 and 33x . They draw the smoothest and lightest and fastest for draw cycle
Any thoughts on Onsession bows?
One is less than $1,500 and one is not. I'm not sure about everyone else, but once I get my bow tuned, I really don't have a reason for "the easier one."
Prime performance mods or comfort?
So at 27.5 the prime will hit 258 with that arrow and the Hoyt would probably hit 274. Big difference, but I'd be running a different mod on the Hoyt. Great video though
At 28.5 the averages were Form 277fps, Hoyt 283fps, take an inch off the draw and that would make the Form around 270 and RX9U about 273. Comes down to preference really, both are great bows and are pretty evenly matched at any draw lower than 30. I shoot a 428gr, 70lb, 29in and Im getting 289fps average with a few flukes hitting 292 on my Form.
Seems the BIG difference is the price, hoyt is quite a bit more expencive. Guy in prime shirt needs to learn how to draw a bow properly.?????
Dude needs to work on how he draws. Going to mess up his shoulder.
Prime for sureeeeeee.
Prime bow is nothing but a gimmick … either u buy aluminum or straight carbon … why have a hybrid when I can have the whole damn penning carbon? Especially with companies like PSE and Hoyt specializing. It’s like they are 15 years too late. This is some early 2000s shit.