Korey Coleman said it best. "I would have woke up everybody, the whole damn ship! If I'm going down we all going down! Oh man the ship broke, oh well might as well party!" XD
If they made this a dark comedy like The Last Man on Earth and make them both a bit deranged and have them play their absurd behavior off each other it would have worked as romantic movie.
From the countless commercials I saw, I was under the impression that they both accidentally woke up, I was on board for a good looking Sci-Fi movie with little plot about two people who normally wouldn't have been more than passers-by trying to survive a ship falling apart and get back into hibernation. I'm kinda upset that that's not what this is, feels like they should have done that or a 10 cloverfield lane style thriller.
No kidding! I've seen some people defend the movie by claiming that anyone would do the same as Chris Pratt's character and wake up someone because they're so lonely. But you would had all these distractions and the robots are intelligent enough that you can have an actual conversation with them. It's way better than just Wilson. Yes, people really need companionship, but a lot of people have survived without it for decades _by choice_ and as mentioned, when you have life-like androids to talk to that can almost fool you into thinking you're talking to a real human, that _really_ alleviates the loneliness. That's basically the best situation to live alone in, and yet people are convinced they would willfully sentence someone to death and the same fate out of that selfishness. I've been isolated for months at a time in my life, without talking to a single person. You get used it.
I am confused by all the review saying CB sucked and it was so twisted. but then everyone on twitter I follow said that was so good! I cried so hard. I guess you have to not be such a critic to actually enjoy a film...
TitanicLover93 Not applying any sort of thought is a terrible way to watch a movie. It's a movie that thinks it's cute, but is actually incredibly sociopathically cruel. It's not just that the three "friends" gaslight Will Smith; it's the fact that they gain financially almost immediately once it comes to light at the big board meeting at the end and never get their comeuppance for what is an incredibly disgraceful act. And that's not even getting to the bizarre twists.
TitanicLover93 it's a film that has sooooooo much scope to be good but it missed the mark. it is a good flick but not as awesome as you go in thinking it will be. Chris Pratt has not got the depth for the role.
I feel like Chris Pratt might've worked in this role if they'd embraced the thriller angle and gone for sort of a Jimmy-Stewart-in-a-Hitchcock-movie angle. Otherwise, no. The casting in this movie confuses me, anyway; when I think of Jennifer Lawrence and Chris Pratt in a movie, I automatically think, "screwball rom-com." Which this is not.
Sounds like this is a similar case to Collateral Damage: A script that was assigned the completely wrong tone and genre by the studio. After hearing the actual plot of Collateral Damage, I think it had the potential to be a good dark comedy. However, they turned it into a heartfelt holiday drama for some reason. And in case of Passengers, much like they already stated, sounds like the script was more meant for a horror sci-fi flick
Dude... the horror genre really NEEDED this idea. Something original, twisted, not based in a true story, completely fucked up just because human beings are fucked up. It would have been so awesome. But no, instead let´s make a rom com with deeply disturbing messages because that is something never seen before.
Maybe another route would have been Chris Pratt woke her up... then she turns out to be completely fucking psycho and his life is in peril before she even finds out what he did. Then when she does find out...
That would have been another interesting route they could have taken with the story. It would remind people that just because you think someone is really funny and charming when you watch them from a distance, doesn't mean you would get along. At all. Really, it's pretty amazing that the one person he decided to wake up fell in love with him and forgave him. Or... it's just Stockholm Syndrome.
That's a huge issue I have with a lot of "romance" films as of late (Twilight and Fifty Shades especially). They feel like horror stories being written by people that don't know that the concept is scary and confuse "genuinely damaged individual" with "misunderstood project." So they just add a few sexy scenes and give the damaged character a sad monologue where they admit their troubled life, thinking that suddenly justifies their shitty behaviour and they're instantly forgiven. It's crap.
Ally Gator Animator It's similar to something Folding Ideas discussed in a video last year after BvS. Modern superhero movies have begun portraying their heroes as always in the right, justifying their actions outside the law because there are bad guys that must be stopped. Hell, look at how popular "anti-heroes" have become. Frank Underwood, Rick Grimes and Negan, Walter White, Don Draper... We're presented with bad people doing bad things but slowly they go from being flawed but ultimately morally centered to outright super-villans. Yet they're the main characters so our brains draw the line to "hero" and refuse to accpet the reality.
I'd like to know why wasn't this made into a horror film. That makes another script that Jon Spaihts that he originally wrote as more of horror film (Prometheus) that was changed in tone after he finished work with it.
I remember the ads for this acting like they woke up together on accident, as some strange star-crossed twist of fate bringing them together. That could have been a good romance story with that major point changed, or a great dark story with the original script's tone maintained, but the remnants of the thriller film from the script in this turned this from star-crossed romance to tone-deaf horror film.
I think there must have been some changes made to the last act because I distinctly remember reading about a different (and much more horrifying) ending than the one they went with. Lots of inbreeding involved...
I would have liked the ending where both of them dies while fixing the ship and there isn't much data left about them. Kinda like nobody knows what they did - only audience knows. Or Jim just imagined that he wake the Aurora up and all is just his in his head. Like mental health issue. And he does fix the damn ship but is kinda nuts hero who people don't get - or dies while realizing at some point that Aurora isn't true. This was a beautiful movie and had so much potential to be anything. The basic story wouldn't been that boring if at least the ending would been slightly changed. Also.. There should have been more time build with Laurence Fishburne's character so maybe the death would have felt more as a deeper impact. Or overall we really didn't know the character's story - it just felt more like Chris Pratts character's creepy stalker diary. All the time I was waiting that in the end Jim just wakes up and it was his dream while he was in the pod the whole freaking trip. They just too much wanted to focus on creepy heterosexual romance. Only thing I like that they didn't make that those two breed all over the ship - what was I guess one of the original ideas.
Also, no, he doesn't die in the script. It is basically how the movie played out, except in the original draft, the ship problem causes the pods to eject from the ship, which makes it to where he's saved Jen's life by waking her. They repopulate the ship by using the sperm bank (there are frozen sperm and eggs), so by the time the ship gets to the new planet, there are generations of new people to populate it. I think it would make it more of a thriller if it had been entirely from her POV. Start the movie with her waking up, not knowing what's going on. She sees him, just some random guy standing there, with no one else around. "Who is this guy?" kind of thing.
What bugs me is, like Collateral Beauty, the "twist" is only so because the trailer hid a key plot point that kicks off the whole plot. That alone makes me never want to see this.
Haven't seen it. But wouldn't there be scientists or engineers onboard the ship that could help fix the ship and hibernation pods? Why not wake those people up for help?
They made that into a movie right? Ummm yeah they did, according to IMDb it came out in 2007, so writing that comment in 2016, how did you not know that.
They honestly could have fixed their "fix" by having wake up a group of people, targeting those who could help him fix the ship (and Aurora), have him be forthwith with the fact that he woke them up because he was going insane, and when Aurora starts getting wise that she can't really help with repairing the ship, have Jim have to explain himself to not only her but also the rest of the group, who would definitely be disgusted with him while trying to help him fix the ship. That's a drama that has a moral grey-ness that doesn't make you 100% dislike the main character.
So whatever company made this space ship can pay for food and robot butlers that will last 100 years, but not any kind of back up or safety net for the cryo pods?
Do you think if someone retried this idea, but just turned it into a horror movie, and change certain parts to make it more of a horror movie, would it work?
It doesn't even need to be a horror film necessarily, but at the least a drama that deals with the torture of isolation and what that can do to a seemingly normal person, which is what the script did far better than this movie.
if I'm listening right that guy was going crazy being alone if that was the case it would be better if he woke her up because having a crazy guy on a ship full of unconscious people would put everyone lives in danger.
Uh, I was actually waiting for this review. Heard good and not so good things about this and I love you guys talking in depth about movies and discussing them. Also as much as I agree that what he did was horrible, a year in isolation will really do things to your psyche.
If by "Christmas Frankenstein" you mean the Apple commercial with Brad Garrett...."No Place Like Home For The Holidays".... Yes...Love it....teared up. :-)
You know, I actually don't think they would have needed to go the horror movie route to make it work. The way I see it, Chris Pratt wasn't a monster himself, he just happened to commit a monstrous act in a moment of horrible desperation. You can then have them dealing with the reality of what he did. So, instead of it being a creepy rapey sort of movie, it could be a rather heady examination of a seriously complex and horrible situation. That would actually make for some good sci fi. Of course they wanted to make it more of a disaster movie for the third act, so obviously that route wouldn't work. Given the direction they went with it would have worked for him to die at the end. However, I think it would have been quite interesting to go with an ambiguous ending where they both live and are well aware of what he did but we never actually see what happens to them in the long run. Ultimately, I think I felt a lot more sympathy for Jim than most people did. Don't get me wrong, what he did was horrible, but the situation he found himself in was so extreme I honestly couldn't say that most people, myself included, wouldn't end up doing something equally extreme. In other words, you can never know what you'll do when the shit hits the fan. The movie just would have been so much better had they focused more on that conflict rather than going off into the generic space disaster direction. And yes, Michael Sheen was great.
Rough quote from the movie. "I read all your books and I fell in love with you." No you sicko you became infatuated with her! There's a fucking difference! What might have made this work is if he legitimately didn't realize he had woken her. Some kind of split personality due to the isolation.
I read that in the original script, all the other pods were accidentally ejected from the ship. Which means that by waking her up, he actually saved her. From what I have heard, This movie clearly didn't have the balls to do that.
Re Dying in Space: you would not actually freeze to death in space because a vacuum is a perfect insulator. You would die from asphyxiation and the most extreme case of the bends you can imagine long before your body would cool down.
I'm not sure what the proper way to go with this situation would be. Having the guy die would make sense and be reasonable in that story. But...if you kill him then you are just repeating the tragedy. It's not like what happened, happened because he was always crazy or evil. Isolation and desperation got him there. Be a kind of crazy tragedy to have this repeat over and over again. Until someone just decided to kill themselves instead of waking up another person.
A proper twist that would be really dark is if JIm tried it with a different lady earlier and killed her. Then she finds out towards the end. Oh the shock that would be!
This situation/plot reminds me of the movie Rocketman with Harland Williams. There is the scene where he and a chimp are the last two to go into the stasis pods and the chimp takes his human sized pod which leaves Harland out and awake. I forget how long he is awake, but he starts losing it in a montage of him losing it talking to the love interest through her pod...
The Bladerunner sequel is most likely to the Final Cut of Bladerunner, which has the unicorn dream. He might be might not be, even the director left it ambiguous.
I really hoped it would be a much better executed version of a movie like Pandorum, I'll go re-watch that instead, not a great movie but it is a guilty pleasure of mine.
Sarah: the version of Blade Runner you want is the one marked "Director's Cut". Fun fact- while not the first 'director's cut' of a movie, it IS the first movie to use that as part of its marketing- and also the first time 'Director's Cut' was applied to a version of a film that didn't have the director involved in making the alternate cut. It's also known as the 1992 version, if that helps.
When they had the discovery about the med bay table that could double as a sleep chamber, I kinda thought that when we got to see the present, they'd find a child inside it.
I honestly was expecting this movie to be far more What the Fuck Hollywood than it was. I kept waiting for Pratt to do something that couldn't be explained (albeit not justified) as a consequence of prolonged isolation or desperation, e.g. trying to get Lawrence pregnant. I was also worried that, when he planted the tree, the movie would treat THAT as a grand romantic gesture and then Lawrence would forgive him. So I guess I was never really angry because I expected so much worse. That said, the more I think about it, the sketchier Pratt's character becomes. I think the film really needed to do more to emphasize that Pratt was losing his mind, such as extending the number of years and showing him acting less and less restrained. He should have been at least tipsy when he opened up Lawrence's pod, and doing so should have snapped him back to reality. The suicide attempt should have either been eliminated or moved to post-opening the pod, to suggest he hadn't really ever thought of suicide and suggest that he is struggling to come to grips with what he did to Lawrence. He needed to have a visually obvious moment of clarity after opening up the pod, and be acting with obvious intent to make up for what he did. Making his act into a moment of weakness, instead of a seemingly calculated decision, would have made his character more redeemable and tragic as opposed to skeevy and morally twisted.
So your way has some flaws. It'd much creepier if Jim was shown to have simply saw this beautiful babe, got his tools and got her out with no though to the harm it'd do to her rather than if Jim who saw Auhora after nearly killing himself mistook that as a sighn in his warped state, wrestled on how waking her could ruin her future but save him. Also he definitely thought of suicide before this during his year of isolation
There's 5 versions of Blade Runner, aren't there? US Theatrical, International, Director's Cut, Final Cut, and Workprint. Theatrical has the narration.
I used to always go rent all the bad movies i still kinda wanted to see on redbox... now just watch the midnight screenings vids instead. Saves me time and money! 😂
I only clicked on the video because I thought Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence would be joining them in the car with a tremendous burst of energy as indicated by the still shot.
I love one particular line in this movie. An automated stewardess says "Earth is overpopulated and overpriced. Move to the simpler, more rustic Homestead II. Homestead II is the New Jersey of planets.
I haven't seen the movie but do they at any point bring up the possibility of repairing the pods or whatever then refreezing? Like I'm sure that the robots have technical knowledge about the pods and everything. If he woke up someone who was an engineer and explained to them what his situation was I'm sure they'd be pissed but it's better than dying alone. The worst it could be if they succeed is they loose maybe a year of time?
So glad I avoided this. I was actually quite excited to see it, but I decided to hold off one day and wait to see what the earliest glimpses were just in case, and thankfully I avoided a poor one.
After you cut out the scene that he stumbled upon her pod, just have her pod malfunctioning (this will be their first meeting) at some point and he had to either let her die or doomed her (even if it's super cheesily convenient that she's super pretty). Or have all the pods in her group started malfunctioning and he was only able to save her
Charles Westfall I agree, i read that one twice, it was a belnd of the first anien and Aliens, it was a bit more xenomorphe based rather than the engeneeres, but prometheus could off been so much more. Now the howl timeline is fucked. Ridley answerd questions he didn't have to, cause he tainted in a way the engeneres for me personally. It's a wast and endless unvierse why do we need to have a definitive answer to who made us OR the xenomorphes? :(
A lot of that was Damon Lindelof, but Scott signed off on it, and contributed to it. I tried to find a download of the original script for Passengers, but the downloads were taken down.
Thank you guys for this review!! My friends are psychotic and thought it was so good/romantic, smh I was like you guys are crazy. And Michael Sheen was great 😀
He studied her learned, looked up all her writings from earth, and everything he could find about her ugh 😱 If it wasn't Your friendly Chris Pratt that guy was a psycho. 👍 Flowers in the attic children left living in treehouse 😂
What is weird is that Jon Spaihts is the only credit writer for this. There is no other writer credited. Did he re-write it himself after studio notes, or is there someone that just doesn't want to get credit (even if it means getting royalities for the rest of their life).
My guess is studio notes/script doctors/interference most likely (unless the director and producers had something to do with it too). I haven't seen the movie yet but based on the description Brad and others have given about it, it was changed quite a bit from the original script which I have read. Like the reason the pod and later ship was malfunctioning was kept secret until the climax at the end and the malfunctioning of the ship gets so bad that ::spoiler:: all of the other pods are ejected into space and the passengers inside die, so there was no possible way for the two main characters to go back into hibernation. As a result, by the time the ship reaches its destination, Jim and Aurora's descendants are the one that leave. Jim waking up Aurora isn't dealt with as lightly either with Jim taking a lot longer to contemplate his decision, her being extremely furious and upset at him for a good chunk of the script after she finds out what he did and he emotionally beats himself up for that decision just as long after she finds out.
Every time Sarah says "muuuurder" an angel gets its wings 😂 lol
Korey Coleman said it best. "I would have woke up everybody, the whole damn ship! If I'm going down we all going down! Oh man the ship broke, oh well might as well party!" XD
If they made this a dark comedy like The Last Man on Earth and make them both a bit deranged and have them play their absurd behavior off each other it would have worked as romantic movie.
From the countless commercials I saw, I was under the impression that they both accidentally woke up, I was on board for a good looking Sci-Fi movie with little plot about two people who normally wouldn't have been more than passers-by trying to survive a ship falling apart and get back into hibernation. I'm kinda upset that that's not what this is, feels like they should have done that or a 10 cloverfield lane style thriller.
Agreed
If there are amenities on the ship, and a robot friend, then I'd be fine for a fuckton longer than a year...
No kidding! I've seen some people defend the movie by claiming that anyone would do the same as Chris Pratt's character and wake up someone because they're so lonely. But you would had all these distractions and the robots are intelligent enough that you can have an actual conversation with them. It's way better than just Wilson. Yes, people really need companionship, but a lot of people have survived without it for decades _by choice_ and as mentioned, when you have life-like androids to talk to that can almost fool you into thinking you're talking to a real human, that _really_ alleviates the loneliness. That's basically the best situation to live alone in, and yet people are convinced they would willfully sentence someone to death and the same fate out of that selfishness. I've been isolated for months at a time in my life, without talking to a single person. You get used it.
planescaped If it had a library of books, tv, and video games...I'd be fine.
I nearly watched both this and the Will Smith film but thanks to Brad and Sarah I've saved £18
fahd s I saw COLLATERAL BEAUTY out of sheer curiosity, before I saw their review, and holy hell, it really is as insulting as they said.
fahd s Wasn't there an Anne Hathaway movie that was also called Passengers? Wasn't that also distributed by Sony?
I am confused by all the review saying CB sucked and it was so twisted. but then everyone on twitter I follow said that was so good! I cried so hard. I guess you have to not be such a critic to actually enjoy a film...
TitanicLover93 Not applying any sort of thought is a terrible way to watch a movie. It's a movie that thinks it's cute, but is actually incredibly sociopathically cruel. It's not just that the three "friends" gaslight Will Smith; it's the fact that they gain financially almost immediately once it comes to light at the big board meeting at the end and never get their comeuppance for what is an incredibly disgraceful act. And that's not even getting to the bizarre twists.
TitanicLover93 it's a film that has sooooooo much scope to be good but it missed the mark. it is a good flick but not as awesome as you go in thinking it will be. Chris Pratt has not got the depth for the role.
I feel like Chris Pratt might've worked in this role if they'd embraced the thriller angle and gone for sort of a Jimmy-Stewart-in-a-Hitchcock-movie angle. Otherwise, no. The casting in this movie confuses me, anyway; when I think of Jennifer Lawrence and Chris Pratt in a movie, I automatically think, "screwball rom-com." Which this is not.
I literally got an ad for this movie midway through the review. Amazing
i got the ad before the review. made me giggle.
Sounds like this is a similar case to Collateral Damage: A script that was assigned the completely wrong tone and genre by the studio. After hearing the actual plot of Collateral Damage, I think it had the potential to be a good dark comedy. However, they turned it into a heartfelt holiday drama for some reason. And in case of Passengers, much like they already stated, sounds like the script was more meant for a horror sci-fi flick
yakuza01 Do you mean "Collateral Beauty," the Will Smith movie?
Dude... the horror genre really NEEDED this idea. Something original, twisted, not based in a true story, completely fucked up just because human beings are fucked up. It would have been so awesome.
But no, instead let´s make a rom com with deeply disturbing messages because that is something never seen before.
Maybe another route would have been Chris Pratt woke her up... then she turns out to be completely fucking psycho and his life is in peril before she even finds out what he did. Then when she does find out...
That would have been another interesting route they could have taken with the story. It would remind people that just because you think someone is really funny and charming when you watch them from a distance, doesn't mean you would get along. At all. Really, it's pretty amazing that the one person he decided to wake up fell in love with him and forgave him. Or... it's just Stockholm Syndrome.
Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence are so much better than this. I would watch the SHIT out of a horror film with these two.
MrImastinker. Definitely yes!
are you high? This movie was fucking amazing
I hear the Emoji movie is going to be a horror movie.
Oh wait, I mean horrible movie.
culwin. Nice!
chris pratt playing a horror movie villain could have been a cool twist. a shame.
So they basically made severe emotional manipulation cute?
Twilight/Fifty Shades... IN SPACE!!!!!!
And stockholm syndrome
Koen Van Damme It's Beauty and the Beast w/out the centuries of momentum to make it seem charming.
That's a huge issue I have with a lot of "romance" films as of late (Twilight and Fifty Shades especially). They feel like horror stories being written by people that don't know that the concept is scary and confuse "genuinely damaged individual" with "misunderstood project."
So they just add a few sexy scenes and give the damaged character a sad monologue where they admit their troubled life, thinking that suddenly justifies their shitty behaviour and they're instantly forgiven. It's crap.
Ally Gator Animator It's similar to something Folding Ideas discussed in a video last year after BvS.
Modern superhero movies have begun portraying their heroes as always in the right, justifying their actions outside the law because there are bad guys that must be stopped.
Hell, look at how popular "anti-heroes" have become. Frank Underwood, Rick Grimes and Negan, Walter White, Don Draper...
We're presented with bad people doing bad things but slowly they go from being flawed but ultimately morally centered to outright super-villans.
Yet they're the main characters so our brains draw the line to "hero" and refuse to accpet the reality.
I'd like to know why wasn't this made into a horror film. That makes another script that Jon Spaihts that he originally wrote as more of horror film (Prometheus) that was changed in tone after he finished work with it.
I remember the ads for this acting like they woke up together on accident, as some strange star-crossed twist of fate bringing them together. That could have been a good romance story with that major point changed, or a great dark story with the original script's tone maintained, but the remnants of the thriller film from the script in this turned this from star-crossed romance to tone-deaf horror film.
I think there must have been some changes made to the last act because I distinctly remember reading about a different (and much more horrifying) ending than the one they went with. Lots of inbreeding involved...
This is a wonderful review of the film. Thank you guys for posting this. Have a great day :)
I would have liked the ending where both of them dies while fixing the ship and there isn't much data left about them. Kinda like nobody knows what they did - only audience knows.
Or Jim just imagined that he wake the Aurora up and all is just his in his head. Like mental health issue. And he does fix the damn ship but is kinda nuts hero who people don't get - or dies while realizing at some point that Aurora isn't true.
This was a beautiful movie and had so much potential to be anything. The basic story wouldn't been that boring if at least the ending would been slightly changed.
Also.. There should have been more time build with Laurence Fishburne's character so maybe the death would have felt more as a deeper impact. Or overall we really didn't know the character's story - it just felt more like Chris Pratts character's creepy stalker diary. All the time I was waiting that in the end Jim just wakes up and it was his dream while he was in the pod the whole freaking trip.
They just too much wanted to focus on creepy heterosexual romance. Only thing I like that they didn't make that those two breed all over the ship - what was I guess one of the original ideas.
Also, no, he doesn't die in the script. It is basically how the movie played out, except in the original draft, the ship problem causes the pods to eject from the ship, which makes it to where he's saved Jen's life by waking her. They repopulate the ship by using the sperm bank (there are frozen sperm and eggs), so by the time the ship gets to the new planet, there are generations of new people to populate it. I think it would make it more of a thriller if it had been entirely from her POV. Start the movie with her waking up, not knowing what's going on. She sees him, just some random guy standing there, with no one else around. "Who is this guy?" kind of thing.
If we didn't know that he purposely let her out until the 3rd act, that'd be a pretty cool twist. This script needed to be shuffled around a bit.
What bugs me is, like Collateral Beauty, the "twist" is only so because the trailer hid a key plot point that kicks off the whole plot. That alone makes me never want to see this.
Haven't seen it. But wouldn't there be scientists or engineers onboard the ship that could help fix the ship and hibernation pods? Why not wake those people up for help?
Especially when they have a robot butler. Couldn't they have programmed the butler to wake the crew in this kind of situation?
Ah, OK. So it's one of those frustrating "the script says I can't do the logical thing" type of movies.
But isnt that problem resolved by the end of the film?
Renegade Hero
no i mean the problem of not having authorization to wake up a smart person.
Renegade Hero
well i would have thought getting the head guards keycard would have solved any "computer wont let me do that" issues right up
Happy Birthday Brad! And Merry Christmas Everyone!
There's a book called "Across the Universe" by Beth Revis, which has a similar plot. It was pretty good and has somewhat the same twist.
They made that into a movie right?
Ummm yeah they did, according to IMDb it came out in 2007, so writing that comment in 2016, how did you not know that.
Robot gay best friend? BearRianBot?
So basically the script is 10 Cloverfield Lane but in space
Nope.
Stoned Gremlin Productions alright, I'll look it up online. Also, bit off topic, what did Dave think of Civil War? (if he saw it)
The thumbnail makes it look like Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence are sitting in the back seat, staring at the camera.
There are bad movies and then there are infuriating movies. This was the latter lmao
They honestly could have fixed their "fix" by having wake up a group of people, targeting those who could help him fix the ship (and Aurora), have him be forthwith with the fact that he woke them up because he was going insane, and when Aurora starts getting wise that she can't really help with repairing the ship, have Jim have to explain himself to not only her but also the rest of the group, who would definitely be disgusted with him while trying to help him fix the ship. That's a drama that has a moral grey-ness that doesn't make you 100% dislike the main character.
So whatever company made this space ship can pay for food and robot butlers that will last 100 years, but not any kind of back up or safety net for the cryo pods?
Do you think if someone retried this idea, but just turned it into a horror movie, and change certain parts to make it more of a horror movie, would it work?
It doesn't even need to be a horror film necessarily, but at the least a drama that deals with the torture of isolation and what that can do to a seemingly normal person, which is what the script did far better than this movie.
That would be amazing. I would watch that over a romance.
Oh, yes. So many possibilities just wasted.
if I'm listening right that guy was going crazy being alone if that was the case it would be better if he woke her up because having a crazy guy on a ship full of unconscious people would put everyone lives in danger.
It has been done. Isolation: 2001, Solaris, Silent Running. Horror: Alien.
Michael Sheen specifically said he's NOT going to stop acting just because he's being politically active
THis reminds me of my favorite cartoon. Ren and Stimpy Space Madness. Its a lot more fun
Uh, I was actually waiting for this review. Heard good and not so good things about this and I love you guys talking in depth about movies and discussing them.
Also as much as I agree that what he did was horrible, a year in isolation will really do things to your psyche.
If by "Christmas Frankenstein" you mean the Apple commercial with Brad Garrett...."No Place Like Home For The Holidays"....
Yes...Love it....teared up. :-)
You know, I actually don't think they would have needed to go the horror movie route to make it work. The way I see it, Chris Pratt wasn't a monster himself, he just happened to commit a monstrous act in a moment of horrible desperation. You can then have them dealing with the reality of what he did. So, instead of it being a creepy rapey sort of movie, it could be a rather heady examination of a seriously complex and horrible situation. That would actually make for some good sci fi.
Of course they wanted to make it more of a disaster movie for the third act, so obviously that route wouldn't work. Given the direction they went with it would have worked for him to die at the end. However, I think it would have been quite interesting to go with an ambiguous ending where they both live and are well aware of what he did but we never actually see what happens to them in the long run.
Ultimately, I think I felt a lot more sympathy for Jim than most people did. Don't get me wrong, what he did was horrible, but the situation he found himself in was so extreme I honestly couldn't say that most people, myself included, wouldn't end up doing something equally extreme. In other words, you can never know what you'll do when the shit hits the fan. The movie just would have been so much better had they focused more on that conflict rather than going off into the generic space disaster direction.
And yes, Michael Sheen was great.
Hmmm Chris Pratt in a Dawn of the Dead kind of movie sounds awesome.
That Chinese delivery guy though... Bushwhacked!
Rough quote from the movie.
"I read all your books and I fell in love with you."
No you sicko you became infatuated with her! There's a fucking difference!
What might have made this work is if he legitimately didn't realize he had woken her. Some kind of split personality due to the isolation.
I read that in the original script, all the other pods were accidentally ejected from the ship. Which means that by waking her up, he actually saved her. From what I have heard, This movie clearly didn't have the balls to do that.
Re Dying in Space: you would not actually freeze to death in space because a vacuum is a perfect insulator. You would die from asphyxiation and the most extreme case of the bends you can imagine long before your body would cool down.
#ActualLee
So, where can we find the script?
Dino Sabalić an earlier comment said the leaked script was removed from the Internet :(
erin h Damn it. If you "run" into a leaked script again, and i'm sure there will be one, please let me know. :(
I'm not sure what the proper way to go with this situation would be. Having the guy die would make sense and be reasonable in that story. But...if you kill him then you are just repeating the tragedy. It's not like what happened, happened because he was always crazy or evil. Isolation and desperation got him there. Be a kind of crazy tragedy to have this repeat over and over again. Until someone just decided to kill themselves instead of waking up another person.
this should have been a romantic comedy. with a guy and girl that can't stand each other at first.
A proper twist that would be really dark is if JIm tried it with a different lady earlier and killed her. Then she finds out towards the end. Oh the shock that would be!
I haven´t seen it jet, but it sounds like "The Shining" - IN SPACE!
mark Walberg is in a lot of patriotic movies
i would say he *robbed* her of her life, that might be the word you're looking for
Hell yeah Brad, can't wait for Blade Runner 2049!
Happy Belated Birthday, Brad!
The thumbnail got me so confused for like 3 minutes
"Flowers in the attic situation" OMG NO😂
Happy belated Birthday Brad!
This situation/plot reminds me of the movie Rocketman with Harland Williams. There is the scene where he and a chimp are the last two to go into the stasis pods and the chimp takes his human sized pod which leaves Harland out and awake. I forget how long he is awake, but he starts losing it in a montage of him losing it talking to the love interest through her pod...
Movie studios want to be filmmakers.
This is gonna be good...
The Bladerunner sequel is most likely to the Final Cut of Bladerunner, which has the unicorn dream. He might be might not be, even the director left it ambiguous.
I caught this on Starz maybe 3 years ago, but it was 1/2 hour in, I liked it, then bought the 3D bluray.
Where did you read the script?
Happy Birthday, Brad!
One of the best movies I have seen!! I loved the twist at the end!! :)
I'm looking for the screenplay online! Can't find it!
The leaked script has been removed from the internet
***** that explains it. thanks.
We should start a Kickstarter fund for Brad's Chinese Food Birthday story. It's be amazing.
God damnit... I hoped it would be a horror, or at least a solid drama, I loved the premise. Why did they fuck it up? Now I'm sad.
I really hoped it would be a much better executed version of a movie like Pandorum, I'll go re-watch that instead, not a great movie but it is a guilty pleasure of mine.
I need one of those list of movies to see from Sarah and Tamara
Sarah: the version of Blade Runner you want is the one marked "Director's Cut". Fun fact- while not the first 'director's cut' of a movie, it IS the first movie to use that as part of its marketing- and also the first time 'Director's Cut' was applied to a version of a film that didn't have the director involved in making the alternate cut.
It's also known as the 1992 version, if that helps.
Where can you find the blacklist script for Passengers online?
I can't find it anywhere, lol!
When they had the discovery about the med bay table that could double as a sleep chamber, I kinda thought that when we got to see the present, they'd find a child inside it.
I honestly was expecting this movie to be far more What the Fuck Hollywood than it was. I kept waiting for Pratt to do something that couldn't be explained (albeit not justified) as a consequence of prolonged isolation or desperation, e.g. trying to get Lawrence pregnant. I was also worried that, when he planted the tree, the movie would treat THAT as a grand romantic gesture and then Lawrence would forgive him. So I guess I was never really angry because I expected so much worse.
That said, the more I think about it, the sketchier Pratt's character becomes. I think the film really needed to do more to emphasize that Pratt was losing his mind, such as extending the number of years and showing him acting less and less restrained. He should have been at least tipsy when he opened up Lawrence's pod, and doing so should have snapped him back to reality. The suicide attempt should have either been eliminated or moved to post-opening the pod, to suggest he hadn't really ever thought of suicide and suggest that he is struggling to come to grips with what he did to Lawrence. He needed to have a visually obvious moment of clarity after opening up the pod, and be acting with obvious intent to make up for what he did. Making his act into a moment of weakness, instead of a seemingly calculated decision, would have made his character more redeemable and tragic as opposed to skeevy and morally twisted.
So your way has some flaws. It'd much creepier if Jim was shown to have simply saw this beautiful babe, got his tools and got her out with no though to the harm it'd do to her rather than if Jim who saw Auhora after nearly killing himself mistook that as a sighn in his warped state, wrestled on how waking her could ruin her future but save him.
Also he definitely thought of suicide before this during his year of isolation
There's 5 versions of Blade Runner, aren't there? US Theatrical, International, Director's Cut, Final Cut, and Workprint. Theatrical has the narration.
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too many variations for a movie that doesn't deserve it.
Wow, you showed me.
Not even remotely that seriously. Get over yourself.
Yes, whatever you say, just please tell me how to feel and think, I'm so lost.
...clearly. far too lost to be allowed to use the internet it would seem.
I used to always go rent all the bad movies i still kinda wanted to see on redbox... now just watch the midnight screenings vids instead. Saves me time and money! 😂
happy birthday!
I only clicked on the video because I thought Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence would be joining them in the car with a tremendous burst of energy as indicated by the still shot.
I love one particular line in this movie. An automated stewardess says "Earth is overpopulated and overpriced. Move to the simpler, more rustic Homestead II.
Homestead II is the New Jersey of planets.
So I should just watch *Moon* again instead of going to see this movie.
27:22 Book version not a robot. Movie version open to debate, except for the shitty voice-over version.
So does this mean RocketMan is a better movie since Harland Williams never woke anyone up he just painted with food?!
He wasn't a robot in the book.
I haven't seen the movie but do they at any point bring up the possibility of repairing the pods or whatever then refreezing? Like I'm sure that the robots have technical knowledge about the pods and everything. If he woke up someone who was an engineer and explained to them what his situation was I'm sure they'd be pissed but it's better than dying alone. The worst it could be if they succeed is they loose maybe a year of time?
So glad I avoided this. I was actually quite excited to see it, but I decided to hold off one day and wait to see what the earliest glimpses were just in case, and thankfully I avoided a poor one.
After you cut out the scene that he stumbled upon her pod, just have her pod malfunctioning (this will be their first meeting) at some point and he had to either let her die or doomed her (even if it's super cheesily convenient that she's super pretty). Or have all the pods in her group started malfunctioning and he was only able to save her
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Whoa... this girl looks exactly like someone I recently was involved with in a highly complicated situation.
Can anyone point me in the direction to the script?
This video's thumbnail confused me so much for a brief moment
Brad. Have you watched Midnight's Edge's video about this?
Where can we read the script for this thing?
I would like to read it too. I read the script for Aliens: Engineers and really liked it and wish Prometheus was closer to it.
Charles Westfall I agree, i read that one twice, it was a belnd of the first anien and Aliens, it was a bit more xenomorphe based rather than the engeneeres, but prometheus could off been so much more. Now the howl timeline is fucked. Ridley answerd questions he didn't have to, cause he tainted in a way the engeneres for me personally. It's a wast and endless unvierse why do we need to have a definitive answer to who made us OR the xenomorphes? :(
A lot of that was Damon Lindelof, but Scott signed off on it, and contributed to it. I tried to find a download of the original script for Passengers, but the downloads were taken down.
Thankfully, Michael Sheen is not quitting acting. He was misquoted. So glad this isn't his last movie!
The way Sarah says "robot"...
I feel like I could probably handle the solitude with a good supply of video games. Then again, maybe not.
Thank you guys for this review!! My friends are psychotic and thought it was so good/romantic, smh I was like you guys are crazy.
And Michael Sheen was great 😀
He studied her learned, looked up all her writings from earth, and everything he could find about her ugh 😱 If it wasn't Your friendly Chris Pratt that guy was a psycho. 👍 Flowers in the attic children left living in treehouse 😂
28:00 I recommend the Director's Cut of Blade Runner. No narration.
I saw this allot in the hospital and thought, "They're going to need so much physical therapy like me." Forgetting that they have artificial gravity.
What is weird is that Jon Spaihts is the only credit writer for this. There is no other writer credited. Did he re-write it himself after studio notes, or is there someone that just doesn't want to get credit (even if it means getting royalities for the rest of their life).
My guess is studio notes/script doctors/interference most likely (unless the director and producers had something to do with it too). I haven't seen the movie yet but based on the description Brad and others have given about it, it was changed quite a bit from the original script which I have read. Like the reason the pod and later ship was malfunctioning was kept secret until the climax at the end and the malfunctioning of the ship gets so bad that ::spoiler:: all of the other pods are ejected into space and the passengers inside die, so there was no possible way for the two main characters to go back into hibernation. As a result, by the time the ship reaches its destination, Jim and Aurora's descendants are the one that leave. Jim waking up Aurora isn't dealt with as lightly either with Jim taking a lot longer to contemplate his decision, her being extremely furious and upset at him for a good chunk of the script after she finds out what he did and he emotionally beats himself up for that decision just as long after she finds out.
What the studio probably did was tell him, "What the people want is a cute romance between actors!" and forced him to fuck it up.
27:30 if you want to watch BLADE RUNNER, just watch BR: THE FINAL CUT.
best take out story ever.
Patrick Wilson should have been in this. Who was, ironically in another movie called PASSENGERS.
Is Lloyd the cat named after Lloyd the bartender?
Honestly I would have liked it if Chris Pratt's character killed Jennifer Lawerence and found someone else to repeat the cycle all over again