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you're so right about the agent stories. Harumasa's agent story brought him out of uninteresting for me and made him one of my favorite characters in the ENTIRE game and he's FREE
Zenless is amazing because it's clear how passionate the devs are. They listen to feedback and the amount of effort they put into the game like the animations, models, and QOL is crazy.
I sure hope the devs are getting a lot more praise and deserving breaks after patching 1.4. They need to remain just as inspired with their game as much as during the beta stages. There are times in later patches where they were rushing some parts of it in some way, and I want them to have all the time they need to keep on cooking and delivering consistent quality content.
Its my favorite mihoyo title. For one simple reason the missions and story structure flow nicely. Theres no perquisites for perquisites. They give you character side stories as a treat after the main story or before to get some context and accustom to what character you'll be interacting it. Without forcing you to do it. In every other mihoyo title it feels like im forced to wade through content to see new stuff. Only to have a event I can't do until a reset clock in a perquisite or a character with a multi hour side story who cant be talked to until its done. Missing an update or two in genshin or star rail feels like your drowning when you try and get back in.
Idk why people don’t watch this. The graphics are stunning. The action is beautiful. The characters are hot. I don’t get it at all. Maybe it’s one of those games you just have to play and not watch to get how good it is. I thought I liked HSR because I love persona. However, recently I have become absolutely obsessed with ZZZ. The game is not too hard, but it is still somehow extremely enjoyable. I actually even like the TV stuff they had/still have a little of.
People like to brush it under the rug as ‘gooner bait’ when it’s not really. Having jiggle physics isn’t inherently gooner bait. I can sometimes see it but the world is awesome and I’m in love with the flashy and snappy combat.
@ I’d say Stellar Blade is a similar story. It looks like bait…and it kinda is. However, that makes some people ignore the action and music which are actually incredible. There is a very good reason for why it was nominated in the game awards for music and action. I personally think the music was GOTY.
I’ve been playing since day 1, it’s my fav game and I really don’t watch a lot of content about it. Mostly because I get the urge to play it myself whenever I watch a video on ZZZ lol
The thing about zzz & why it gets low viewers is cause we rather just play it then watch since it's actually fun. Ppl watch genshin/star rail more cause the story yaps to long to do it themselves. Also zzz has a lot of QOL meaning your in & out on this game dailies take 30 secs: video store, lottery ticket, coffee. Done. You don't need to run around 4 hours killing mobs n collecting mint to level a character in this game. Alot of CCs use "actually listened" in their titles but zzz actually does no joke
I play the game since day one and i enjoyed it and every changes (i loved the tv and i'm glad they did not totally remove it) I hope more people will appreciate this game with this update!
Exactly how I feel about HSR. It tries too hard to be philosophical at times which made even a patient guy like me decide to skip most dialogues. In the end, I dropped the game altogether when I realized the goal of the game is simply to auto battle faster by collecting more OP characters and rolling high CV relics, making the game more of an interactive visual novel instead, which makes it all so pointless.
I agree with ya, not with the HSR part but for HI3 Part 2. I'm a HI3 veteran myself, bored to death by philosophical shiz in part 2's story that takes it too far that it killed it's own story pace because they explain anything like a poem by shakeseapre or sumthn and looooooooooooong ass exposition dump. Of course it's not the case for all dialogue but it's most of the dialogue of Part 2. I played countless hours of Part 1 story fully immersed and i just gave up giving a damn about Part 2 story after couple of chapters.
ZZZ has become one of my favorite really quickly. It makes me happy to see it getting the recognition it deserves lately. The game's kinda niche because of its aesthetics and themes so I unfortunately don’t see it getting as big as Genshin f.ex. However, the fanbase they have accumulated is extremely loyal and is here to stay. As for why there isn’t much content/why ZZZ content don’t really gather lots of viewers, I think it’s just that the game doesn’t leave much room for speculation story-wise and the basic gameplay loop just isn’t very entertaining to watch. Content on Shiyu Defense, Deadly Assault & Simulated battle trial and especially leaks does much better. Hell, you don’t even need guide makers anymore because the game literally tells you how yo build your characters as of 1.4.
I really don't like ZZZ, especially at launch w/ the TV thing inclunded. However in the last update, I can really tell that the devs overhauled the game completely and its entirely a new game now. I also commend the devs because they sacrificed their vision of game which is the TV mode for the players. That's some crazy stuff they did for their players. Now, I can comfortably play the game now after I drop it since launch.
i uninstalled day 1. I did not enjoy it. 1.4 live stream has brought me back. I did not like the initial release characters from 1.0 and 1.1. Miyabi is really freakin cool. The QoL changes has made me more receptive to playing this game again. Thanks for the W video Connor!
I litterally started in 1.3 and i did speed run a bit but im just slowly playing the game rn and its amazing rn taking your time makes things better at least for me
True. Zenless dont get a fair judgment. Ppl and especially content creators use bad metric to judge a game because only money interest them so, numbers are more important for them. Compare to genshin and hsr zenless do "bad" revenue (lot still millions), often the half but its because the targeted player is not the same, he is more niche, very more niche than genshin or hsr. I don't understand the criticisms of the combat system, if you like action combat you have no problems with this one or just dont like the balance and just go away. And like in all gacha, the "final form" of the gameplay is not in 1.0. Look now, its really different. Certain ppl complain about how "qte spammy" is the game but at that time enemies was easy to stun and there wasn't any disorder teams. If you are bored of chain mechanics go for anomaly where stun is way longer. Ppl complain about how anomaly is slow dps, no constant big numbers ... its so ridiculous. Anomaly is the most complex (and interesting to me) gameplay in the game. Standard dps team is : take the time to stun, switch to the dps and burst. Anomaly you need to manage characters mechanics along the way of filling anomaly gauges to trigger anomaly right in time to maximize disorder. But casuals rule the world ? Don't want to involve in complex things and want direct easy pleasure ? don't know... It feel again like the usual situation, high expectation lead to high disappointment. Gacha teasers aside (all characters in gacha love the MC, its so cringe), I feel the same about Rover, even if he had the aura of a hero (and a superior being) much more than the traveler.
The fact that this game still has a reputation of "yapping" and has a boring story in the gacha community is perfect proof that you shouldnt trust the gacha community with anything, they'd harp about wanting good storytelling for months but when it's right in front of them they just ignore it. These guys just don't like reading story. And this henceforth affected a ton of things in the game, with the regard to all the early reviews, and most importantly the reception of the TV mode. The reason a lot of people "didn't mind" the TV mode is that it was a device almost solely there to tell story, to put you in things that they wouldn't be able to portray in normal gameplay, like leading civilians while avoiding trains, doing detective work, avoiding ghosts etc and for those who appreciated the story it was fine. But if you don't care about the story then of course the mode would lose all its charm. This is also why Appergio sucked, it's because most of it didn't have any story to go along with it (the entire plot of the event is like a paragraph long), which goes against the purpose of the mode to begin with. Making Appergio is a sign that the devs don't really get the TV Mode themselves and would rather push it out of the way to pursue a safer story telling approach aka walking simulator with pressing switches. This disappointed me a lot and I wonder if many people feel the same (I doubt so considering how well the update to exploration has been received). You said in the video that this struck you as negative at first, to me honestly it is still negative if you look at the bigger picture. I sincerely hope we get another one of something cool like "The Prophecy" or "Detective Rewind" with the TV-less mode to prove that the game can still deliver that charm.
5:00 Well, after playing 1.4 I think the main story may be heading in the direction of wise and belle becoming the saviours of the world xD. Also you forgot to mention that they removed weekly boss restrictions and weekly bosses are farmable! You don't have to sit there waiting weeks because you forgot to prefarm the weekly materials for your new character. Anyway, I agree with the video specially the part about the storytelling, and I find myself enjoying ZZZ quite a lot despite being quite critical of it at the beginning (criticism that that I still think was justified). Now that they have removed the TVs from the start of the game I can recommend it to anyone who wants to try it.
I play 2 kuro games and 3 hoyo games (and some other gachas cuz fml) and I always think the fandom war is dumb 😂 Playing both WuWa and ZZZ and enjoying the improvements in both games since release feels good.
Sony put over 400 million into Concord. We all know how that turned out. Bigger budget doesn't guarantee more quality. It does guarantee a bigger cost to earn back for Mihoyo, which means they may have to start squeezing your wallet like they are doing in HSR right now. Beware of the inflated HP bar. That's how they will try to push you to spend.
Personally I prefer Hi3rd over this one, IT'S BASICALLY JUST HONKAI 2.0 WITH SOME SLICE OF LIFE ANIME ADVENTURE WITH ECCHI STUFF+ MALE NOT TO MENTION THE GACHA RATES IS HOYO KIND OF RATES...TBH if you already played one of many hoyo titles,one is definitely enough
ngl I'm day one player but I left bc of the tv mode and i was mostly focused on wuwa if I'm being honest but i saw Miyabi and i was like Yah she will be mine lol and than i saw Yanagi and i want her but her banner left soo I'm waiting for a rerun hers and jane my fav characters but 1.4 is peak for zzz ngl but the content for zzz is low on yt which i don't like...😅
If you have to add a modifier like 'its the best gatcha game' and its not good enough to stand on its own as a game, then its clear its meaningless. I can say I'm the tallest person... In this room. Well this isnt the same as the tallet person period. Same with gacha games, if they were good no one would add the gacha, they only add it because its not a great game, its just a great game... For a gacha game. And thats like saying it's good for a casino slot machine. It blows my mind how these gambling games are even legal, especially when they're aimed at children
@@cynthiahembree3957 Were you around in the HI3 days? I find that a lot of the people that came in the Genshin era did not really see the shift and as a result do not see why some people have such distrust of Hoyo and pessimism/cynicism about their games.
Thy have gotten more undeserved hate I feel then being praised for they're back to back quality updates, but yeah if they ever become Genshin level's successful we have to keep them inline
Two patch cycles later: HP inflation is a problem and we need to talk about it. I'm not going to shit on people for liking something. You like what you like and I genuinely hope you will continue to like it. But if HSR is any indication then the devs may very well pull a bait and switch. The HSR devs started out as "the good guys" only to become just as bad (perhaps even worse) than the "bad guys" of Genshin Impact. Hoyoverse seems to equate difficulty to bigger HP bars. So be prepared for that. HSR was a fata morgana. An illusion. The pretense of good will.
Good point. When HSR got released, I was thrilled and engaged. I liked everything about it, from dialogues to combat and content. Almost 2 years later, and now I won't put it even in my top 3 gachas. Story became worse, even if we don't count storytelling. Powercreep invalidated many great characters, and resulted in endgame becoming obnoxious to do. Even recent SU expansion, which I always loved, was an example of how not to do rogue likes. ZZZ devs show that they're better, and more receptive. I mean, people complained about model censorship, and they fixed it, and gave out a 10 pull. But, it also shows concerning things, like powercreep being absurd already. And it's an action game, so it doesn't even have the "it's a turn based" excuse.
@@alreadyd1d I'm exactly the same when it comes to HSR. I loved it in the beginning. I even tolerated the objectively worse Luofu arc because the Devs put out a statement admitting to the flaws in their writing. Everything seemed to go well and the Devs appeared to be listening. But the story continued to get worse and worse with every new patch. Then the power creep set in and it immediately began skyrocketing the power ceiling into the stratosphere, invalidating nearly the entire 1.X character roster in a single patch. And if the 3.0 beta leaks are any indication they are going to double down on that even harder. I genuinely hope for all the ZZZ enjoyers that things will be different this time around. But now they even upped the power creep in Genshin Impact after years of carefully maintained stability. At this point my pattern recognition alarm is screaming hell and high water. So while I wish you the best, I also recommend you to buckle up and prepare the life boats. I'm about to drop HSR as well and already found a replacement in Reverse 1999 to scratch my turn-based gacha itch. If patch 3.0 does not turn things around for the better I will hop into my life boat and sail towards brighter shores and greener pastures.
everything u wrote hear is BS. HP never was a thing in HSR and u calling it difficulty just mean u are shitty at playing the game. u should have choosen something else and not what is less used in a turn based game jack-ass.
I see where you are coming from and it’s something good to keep an eye out for. Until that switch happens or HP bloat becomes and issues I still want to highlight what is positive about the game. But if the day comes where the laziness creeps in and it becomes HP sponge hell I’ll be right there calling it out.
That is a great argument, and only time will tell if it becomes true. One thing I heard is that ZZZs development team seems to be far younger than their other dev teams and seemingly more willing to do sweeping changes, for HSR I remember hearing that people that worked on Honkai Impact 3rd moved to work on it around the time of Penacony. So far ZZZ seems willing to provide endgame content that deviates from the basic formula of "kill everything withing X time" in favor of other challenges, which is good, but at the same time the powercreep with Miyabi is quite obvious, so we'll see.
Even if I agreed with your assessment of the game, I think it's valuable for grown men, the people that generally will be fathers, to genuinely be able to relate to and get into things that would be for their children. My Dad and I were always able to connect over comics and video games and he has never seemed immature or irresponsible. I can see just not having the preference, but I surely wouldn't think it was a negative to be able to enjoy youthful things.
Connor is my favourite Hoyoshill
You’re my fav hoy-OSHI-LL! Now hurry up and learn how to use the menus properly and get over your skill issue. 🤣❤️
@@ConnorsThoughts WOAH WOAH WOAH
Says someone who were struggling with the menu that a 6th grader could've easily understand. 😂😭
Zzz actually listens to us
you're so right about the agent stories. Harumasa's agent story brought him out of uninteresting for me and made him one of my favorite characters in the ENTIRE game and he's FREE
Zenless is amazing because it's clear how passionate the devs are. They listen to feedback and the amount of effort they put into the game like the animations, models, and QOL is crazy.
I sure hope the devs are getting a lot more praise and deserving breaks after patching 1.4. They need to remain just as inspired with their game as much as during the beta stages. There are times in later patches where they were rushing some parts of it in some way, and I want them to have all the time they need to keep on cooking and delivering consistent quality content.
Its my favorite mihoyo title. For one simple reason the missions and story structure flow nicely. Theres no perquisites for perquisites. They give you character side stories as a treat after the main story or before to get some context and accustom to what character you'll be interacting it. Without forcing you to do it. In every other mihoyo title it feels like im forced to wade through content to see new stuff. Only to have a event I can't do until a reset clock in a perquisite or a character with a multi hour side story who cant be talked to until its done. Missing an update or two in genshin or star rail feels like your drowning when you try and get back in.
Idk why people don’t watch this. The graphics are stunning. The action is beautiful. The characters are hot. I don’t get it at all. Maybe it’s one of those games you just have to play and not watch to get how good it is.
I thought I liked HSR because I love persona. However, recently I have become absolutely obsessed with ZZZ. The game is not too hard, but it is still somehow extremely enjoyable. I actually even like the TV stuff they had/still have a little of.
For me, I just don't vibe with the combat.
People like to brush it under the rug as ‘gooner bait’ when it’s not really. Having jiggle physics isn’t inherently gooner bait. I can sometimes see it but the world is awesome and I’m in love with the flashy and snappy combat.
@ I’d say Stellar Blade is a similar story. It looks like bait…and it kinda is. However, that makes some people ignore the action and music which are actually incredible. There is a very good reason for why it was nominated in the game awards for music and action. I personally think the music was GOTY.
I’ve been playing since day 1, it’s my fav game and I really don’t watch a lot of content about it. Mostly because I get the urge to play it myself whenever I watch a video on ZZZ lol
The thing about zzz & why it gets low viewers is cause we rather just play it then watch since it's actually fun. Ppl watch genshin/star rail more cause the story yaps to long to do it themselves. Also zzz has a lot of QOL meaning your in & out on this game dailies take 30 secs: video store, lottery ticket, coffee. Done. You don't need to run around 4 hours killing mobs n collecting mint to level a character in this game.
Alot of CCs use "actually listened" in their titles but zzz actually does no joke
I play the game since day one and i enjoyed it and every changes (i loved the tv and i'm glad they did not totally remove it) I hope more people will appreciate this game with this update!
Can we please stop using labels like shill or bot.
Why can't we just enjoy games without labeling ourselves or each other
Just getting ahead of the Npc complaints about me glazing too much. I personally don’t think it’s an issues to enjoy both at all.
People use those words when one game is glaringly bad ,but people still shields it and defend it till death.
Exactly how I feel about HSR. It tries too hard to be philosophical at times which made even a patient guy like me decide to skip most dialogues. In the end, I dropped the game altogether when I realized the goal of the game is simply to auto battle faster by collecting more OP characters and rolling high CV relics, making the game more of an interactive visual novel instead, which makes it all so pointless.
I agree with ya, not with the HSR part but for HI3 Part 2. I'm a HI3 veteran myself, bored to death by philosophical shiz in part 2's story that takes it too far that it killed it's own story pace because they explain anything like a poem by shakeseapre or sumthn and looooooooooooong ass exposition dump. Of course it's not the case for all dialogue but it's most of the dialogue of Part 2. I played countless hours of Part 1 story fully immersed and i just gave up giving a damn about Part 2 story after couple of chapters.
ur battery usage is killing me
ZZZ has become one of my favorite really quickly. It makes me happy to see it getting the recognition it deserves lately. The game's kinda niche because of its aesthetics and themes so I unfortunately don’t see it getting as big as Genshin f.ex. However, the fanbase they have accumulated is extremely loyal and is here to stay.
As for why there isn’t much content/why ZZZ content don’t really gather lots of viewers, I think it’s just that the game doesn’t leave much room for speculation story-wise and the basic gameplay loop just isn’t very entertaining to watch. Content on Shiyu Defense, Deadly Assault & Simulated battle trial and especially leaks does much better. Hell, you don’t even need guide makers anymore because the game literally tells you how yo build your characters as of 1.4.
I really don't like ZZZ, especially at launch w/ the TV thing inclunded. However in the last update, I can really tell that the devs overhauled the game completely and its entirely a new game now. I also commend the devs because they sacrificed their vision of game which is the TV mode for the players. That's some crazy stuff they did for their players. Now, I can comfortably play the game now after I drop it since launch.
Welcome aboard, new member of hoyoshill. Glad to have you here.
I only play 2 hoyo games zzz and hsr and between the 2 zzz is my main everyday game
W take.
I’m similar, but I typically do my HSR dailys but skip weeklys. I do everything I possibly can in ZZZ though.
I want a Genshin x ZZZ collab. It would be interesting to see Genshin characters being able to parry attacks.
i uninstalled day 1. I did not enjoy it. 1.4 live stream has brought me back. I did not like the initial release characters from 1.0 and 1.1. Miyabi is really freakin cool. The QoL changes has made me more receptive to playing this game again. Thanks for the W video Connor!
2:04 Agreed. It definitely is a step in the right direction.
I litterally started in 1.3 and i did speed run a bit but im just slowly playing the game rn and its amazing rn taking your time makes things better at least for me
True. Zenless dont get a fair judgment. Ppl and especially content creators use bad metric to judge a game because only money interest them so, numbers are more important for them. Compare to genshin and hsr zenless do "bad" revenue (lot still millions), often the half but its because the targeted player is not the same, he is more niche, very more niche than genshin or hsr.
I don't understand the criticisms of the combat system, if you like action combat you have no problems with this one or just dont like the balance and just go away. And like in all gacha, the "final form" of the gameplay is not in 1.0. Look now, its really different. Certain ppl complain about how "qte spammy" is the game but at that time enemies was easy to stun and there wasn't any disorder teams. If you are bored of chain mechanics go for anomaly where stun is way longer. Ppl complain about how anomaly is slow dps, no constant big numbers ... its so ridiculous.
Anomaly is the most complex (and interesting to me) gameplay in the game. Standard dps team is : take the time to stun, switch to the dps and burst. Anomaly you need to manage characters mechanics along the way of filling anomaly gauges to trigger anomaly right in time to maximize disorder. But casuals rule the world ? Don't want to involve in complex things and want direct easy pleasure ? don't know... It feel again like the usual situation, high expectation lead to high disappointment.
Gacha teasers aside (all characters in gacha love the MC, its so cringe), I feel the same about Rover, even if he had the aura of a hero (and a superior being) much more than the traveler.
Good video my dude. I’m gonna reinstall the game soon and give it another go.
Hey it's ok bro. But no lies were told. Haven't logged into my wuwa since miyabi dropped. Omfg I love her gameplay
Zzz best gacha right now
The fact that this game still has a reputation of "yapping" and has a boring story in the gacha community is perfect proof that you shouldnt trust the gacha community with anything, they'd harp about wanting good storytelling for months but when it's right in front of them they just ignore it. These guys just don't like reading story. And this henceforth affected a ton of things in the game, with the regard to all the early reviews, and most importantly the reception of the TV mode.
The reason a lot of people "didn't mind" the TV mode is that it was a device almost solely there to tell story, to put you in things that they wouldn't be able to portray in normal gameplay, like leading civilians while avoiding trains, doing detective work, avoiding ghosts etc and for those who appreciated the story it was fine. But if you don't care about the story then of course the mode would lose all its charm. This is also why Appergio sucked, it's because most of it didn't have any story to go along with it (the entire plot of the event is like a paragraph long), which goes against the purpose of the mode to begin with. Making Appergio is a sign that the devs don't really get the TV Mode themselves and would rather push it out of the way to pursue a safer story telling approach aka walking simulator with pressing switches. This disappointed me a lot and I wonder if many people feel the same (I doubt so considering how well the update to exploration has been received). You said in the video that this struck you as negative at first, to me honestly it is still negative if you look at the bigger picture. I sincerely hope we get another one of something cool like "The Prophecy" or "Detective Rewind" with the TV-less mode to prove that the game can still deliver that charm.
My 2nd fav game from hoyo. Genshin is still my top 1.but man, the release of miyabi is such a blast
absolutely obsessed over how much people are glazing zzz
after the non-stop forced mass hate this game has been getting for the past 6 months, they deserve the glaze.
@@luzekiel9343 soo trueee
5:00 Well, after playing 1.4 I think the main story may be heading in the direction of wise and belle becoming the saviours of the world xD. Also you forgot to mention that they removed weekly boss restrictions and weekly bosses are farmable! You don't have to sit there waiting weeks because you forgot to prefarm the weekly materials for your new character.
Anyway, I agree with the video specially the part about the storytelling, and I find myself enjoying ZZZ quite a lot despite being quite critical of it at the beginning (criticism that that I still think was justified). Now that they have removed the TVs from the start of the game I can recommend it to anyone who wants to try it.
I play 2 kuro games and 3 hoyo games (and some other gachas cuz fml) and I always think the fandom war is dumb 😂
Playing both WuWa and ZZZ and enjoying the improvements in both games since release feels good.
I agree on honkai xD i only really liked whenever feixiao was in they story but i just be skipping honkai dialog without her.
i mean i am pretty sure Hoyoverse put over 400 Million or more to develop this Game it must be good
Sony put over 400 million into Concord. We all know how that turned out. Bigger budget doesn't guarantee more quality. It does guarantee a bigger cost to earn back for Mihoyo, which means they may have to start squeezing your wallet like they are doing in HSR right now. Beware of the inflated HP bar. That's how they will try to push you to spend.
I'm gonna be so real with you if they spent that much on ZZZ that's actually very bad.
@@cynthiahembree3957 How? They made like 100 million on mobile alone upon launch and prob made their money back by now.
no this is false lol
Well said
downloading rn if i dont get Miyabi ill uninstall!
Hope remains hope cannot be obtained
@@Emptiness771 i like zzz now if they are consistent with generosity then im cool!
It took me almost 170 pulls to get her, but I’m definitely not dropping this game. This game is SOOO good.
Yeah you'll get like 200 pulls, soo..
She's got a long banner so you should get her even if you lose 1 5050
Personally I prefer Hi3rd over this one, IT'S BASICALLY JUST HONKAI 2.0 WITH SOME SLICE OF LIFE ANIME ADVENTURE WITH ECCHI STUFF+ MALE
NOT TO MENTION THE GACHA RATES IS HOYO KIND OF RATES...TBH if you already played one of many hoyo titles,one is definitely enough
Can you review guardian tales, its a really good game, with good story and simple gameplay and puzzles and lots of content.
I did play this game on launch and it was a ton of fun!
ngl I'm day one player but I left bc of the tv mode and i was mostly focused on wuwa if I'm being honest but i saw Miyabi and i was like Yah she will be mine lol and than i saw Yanagi and i want her but her banner left soo I'm waiting for a rerun hers and jane my fav characters but 1.4 is peak for zzz ngl but the content for zzz is low on yt which i don't like...😅
If you have to add a modifier like 'its the best gatcha game' and its not good enough to stand on its own as a game, then its clear its meaningless. I can say I'm the tallest person... In this room. Well this isnt the same as the tallet person period. Same with gacha games, if they were good no one would add the gacha, they only add it because its not a great game, its just a great game... For a gacha game. And thats like saying it's good for a casino slot machine. It blows my mind how these gambling games are even legal, especially when they're aimed at children
my only worry is if this game start getting to much good PR they start slacking off like the rest I hope not lol
Yeah I'm concerned about this too. I don't trust Hoyo due to their past track record
@@cynthiahembree3957 Were you around in the HI3 days? I find that a lot of the people that came in the Genshin era did not really see the shift and as a result do not see why some people have such distrust of Hoyo and pessimism/cynicism about their games.
Thy have gotten more undeserved hate I feel then being praised for they're back to back quality updates, but yeah if they ever become Genshin level's successful we have to keep them inline
U guys worry so much
For me, it was Hollow Zero that made me hate the TV's. I love that they completely replaced it with a more interactive rogue-like
Two patch cycles later: HP inflation is a problem and we need to talk about it.
I'm not going to shit on people for liking something. You like what you like and I genuinely hope you will continue to like it. But if HSR is any indication then the devs may very well pull a bait and switch. The HSR devs started out as "the good guys" only to become just as bad (perhaps even worse) than the "bad guys" of Genshin Impact. Hoyoverse seems to equate difficulty to bigger HP bars. So be prepared for that. HSR was a fata morgana. An illusion. The pretense of good will.
Good point. When HSR got released, I was thrilled and engaged. I liked everything about it, from dialogues to combat and content. Almost 2 years later, and now I won't put it even in my top 3 gachas. Story became worse, even if we don't count storytelling. Powercreep invalidated many great characters, and resulted in endgame becoming obnoxious to do. Even recent SU expansion, which I always loved, was an example of how not to do rogue likes.
ZZZ devs show that they're better, and more receptive. I mean, people complained about model censorship, and they fixed it, and gave out a 10 pull. But, it also shows concerning things, like powercreep being absurd already. And it's an action game, so it doesn't even have the "it's a turn based" excuse.
@@alreadyd1d I'm exactly the same when it comes to HSR. I loved it in the beginning. I even tolerated the objectively worse Luofu arc because the Devs put out a statement admitting to the flaws in their writing. Everything seemed to go well and the Devs appeared to be listening. But the story continued to get worse and worse with every new patch. Then the power creep set in and it immediately began skyrocketing the power ceiling into the stratosphere, invalidating nearly the entire 1.X character roster in a single patch. And if the 3.0 beta leaks are any indication they are going to double down on that even harder.
I genuinely hope for all the ZZZ enjoyers that things will be different this time around. But now they even upped the power creep in Genshin Impact after years of carefully maintained stability. At this point my pattern recognition alarm is screaming hell and high water. So while I wish you the best, I also recommend you to buckle up and prepare the life boats. I'm about to drop HSR as well and already found a replacement in Reverse 1999 to scratch my turn-based gacha itch. If patch 3.0 does not turn things around for the better I will hop into my life boat and sail towards brighter shores and greener pastures.
everything u wrote hear is BS. HP never was a thing in HSR and u calling it difficulty just mean u are shitty at playing the game. u should have choosen something else and not what is less used in a turn based game jack-ass.
I see where you are coming from and it’s something good to keep an eye out for. Until that switch happens or HP bloat becomes and issues I still want to highlight what is positive about the game. But if the day comes where the laziness creeps in and it becomes HP sponge hell I’ll be right there calling it out.
That is a great argument, and only time will tell if it becomes true. One thing I heard is that ZZZs development team seems to be far younger than their other dev teams and seemingly more willing to do sweeping changes, for HSR I remember hearing that people that worked on Honkai Impact 3rd moved to work on it around the time of Penacony.
So far ZZZ seems willing to provide endgame content that deviates from the basic formula of "kill everything withing X time" in favor of other challenges, which is good, but at the same time the powercreep with Miyabi is quite obvious, so we'll see.
Bro play solo leveling arise. This game very f2p and awesome Combat, graphics and character build system
Havnt played but I heard some pretty tough feedback in some conversations.
ZZZ is bad… it’s make you have unrealistic expectations about any other gatcha games 😂
I can't get how a grown man can like a game with this hud and UI in general, they were clearly made for children and people with ADHD.
I guess the brain-rot runs deep!
This comment just reeks of man that is secure in his masculinity and doesn't need to affirm it by posting in some gacha youtuber comments.
@@signer0001 I can't understand what my comment has to do with masculinity.
Even if I agreed with your assessment of the game, I think it's valuable for grown men, the people that generally will be fathers, to genuinely be able to relate to and get into things that would be for their children.
My Dad and I were always able to connect over comics and video games and he has never seemed immature or irresponsible. I can see just not having the preference, but I surely wouldn't think it was a negative to be able to enjoy youthful things.
Damn, guess I can't play uno anymore since it's targeted towards kids