I was fortunate enough to "fall" out of the back of an OV-10 bronco at Ft Bragg in 1993. It was the most fun I ever had as a US ARMY paratrooper, no doubt. TY to the Marine's who took us for a ride that day
+Jonny B -- Hi Jonn B -- nope, I really meant fall out when I wrote that. The OV-10 Bronco is going straight up, nearly vertical when the red light turns green. At that point the 1st trooper, the only one belted in, (with about 3-5 inches of aluminum seat.) :-) well he undoes that seatbelt on green, and while still vertical all the paratroopers (who are used to jumping,) fall right out. IDK about stats on actually falling out of aircraft but there are safety lines if ppl do.
Jon Miller . My Dad Lcp. Bravo . Told me the exact same story . And was decorated with the Navy Achievement medal wth a combat V for Valor at Hue 1968 .
Ernan Cabral sad they’re now retiring it cause of the lack of parts for it considering it’s discontinued. But the EMB Super Tucano will be a nice replacement.
A model I built as a kid during the Vietnam War....another group of pilots and crew that took a lot of risks to support those on the ground. Thanks for your service!
Many thanks to the US Navy Black Pony pilots flying out of Binh Thuy for delivering superb close combat tactical air support in the Mekong Delta 50 years ago. Their ordnance, 5" aerial rocket artillery, made a helluva big bang compared to the 2.75" ARA delivered by U.S. Navy Seawolf Charlie model helicopter gunships. Black Pony combat air patrols were up and on station every day.
our air force is still flying it. a testament to it's ruggedness, durability and reliability and it runs on unleaded gasoline. it entered service when my dad was retiring in the 90's and is still soldiering. greetings from the philippines!
I saw one of these at the Pima Air & Space Museum (i.e. the "Desert Boneyard") back in 2009. I didn't know its history or capabilities at all, but I thought it was a cool-looking small plane. Learning its history has been even more interesting, and it seems to me that these old planes could now be successfully put to use in a lot of helpful, non-military roles as well.
I was happy to hear they successfully deployed this aircraft in Iraq and are considering bringing it back. The OV10 and A10C would provide full spectrum CAS. What a cool airplane.
+decodeddiesel I would like it if they'd put stronger engines and maybe go back to the shorter wings the prototype had. That way it can be carried on a 6x6. No; it's not armor-plated like a Warthog but it can be a supplement thereof.
I've got about 100 flight hours in a "Research" OV-10A (N636NA) flown out of NASA Lewis Research Center in Cleveland Ohio from 1989 to 1996. More fun than I can describe.
I was part of VMO-1 and VMO-4 and spent many hours sitting in the cockpit turning and burning, performing high power turn-ups and then flying back seat for test hops and training missions during the mid and late seventies. One thing you never forget is the sound of a Bronco breaking midfield before landing and the roar of the engines in full reverse. My assigned bird 155488 (504) met it's end flying in Columbia, South America when the pilot claimed a single engine failure right after takeoff and left her to her doom on a mountainside. I would love to see this great aircraft resurrected and brought back into service.
I was assigned to VMO-1 from Dec. 1968 to Jan. 1972, and had many of the same experiences. Got to fly back seat during training missions in the Caribbean in 69 and 70. Enjoyed working on the T-76 engines but hated New River. :)
Charles January You mean COLOMBIA, not Columbia, right ??? Colombia is a country in Central/South America, Columbia, it's the name of several places in the U.S.A.!!
I had an incentive ride in one of these while stationed at George AFB in CA. The pilot was OKd for 'acro', and the funny guy tried to make me GLOC. He ALMOST succeeded, I got tunnel vision down to inside the cabin at 7 Gs. I held in there tho. I would LOVE to own one of these things.
They took a FLIR ball put it on the front, and the 20mm gun from a Cobra, and put it under the cargo bay. Cargo bay held ammo. Lots of ammo. Worked out great, but they never incorporated it. Don't know why. Also engines with the later models were doubled in hp I believe. Or close. VMO2 here 84-90 Had a board that listed ops and under deployments it just said "All the time".
OV-10D+ Can: -loiter around a target for upwards of three hours. -provide long range escort of slow moving helicopters. -provide orbiting fire on a target with cannon. -provide flir equipped reconnaissance. -carry up to 12 hellfire missiles for anti armor missions. -carry up to four sidewinder missiles for air superiority missions. -operate on less than ideal airstrips. -act as infantry transportation or medical evacuation. F-35B Can: Accomplish some of the previously mentioned capabilities at 33.08 times the cost of an OV-10.
I often wonder what one of these cost compared to that drone we use now days. This seems like an excellent support air craft. The design seems brillent for bombing missions that were currently using jets on.
Indonesian Air Force also operate OV -10 in East Timor Military Operation in 1970s-1990s, as Counter Insurgent role aircraft.. even the 7.62mm machine guns replaced by 2 of 12,7mm HMGs to increase its combat capability..
I jumped the OV-10 out of Cherry Point N.C. when I was in the M.C. around 1985 /88 I don't see any videos of how we jumped them though. We flew horizontal at about 800 to a 1000 ft. . then shot up vertical with a strap on the end holding the 4 of us in the hull, at 2000 the green light came on and now looking straight at the earth the Devil Dog who was on the end sitting with his feet hanging out the back of the craft released the strap and we were shot out in succession one at a time. I was always the 4th so I got to see them disappear from the aircraft before my very eyes. Is there any video on this that anyone knows of ??? I got my Gold Wings that day with 2nd Force Reconnaissance out of Camp Lejeune N.C. which I am so proud of and I would love to share it with others.Maybe it was just a M.C. thing, please Help if you have any info. Thanks!!!
The video shows a jump at the 7:58 mark. (I was looking for the same thing. LOL) I was at 1st Recon in 1984. Had two OV-10 jumps scheduled, but Mag 39 had 2 crashes that week, so the Colonel cancked the jumps. He said if they can't fly 'em we're not gonna jumping 'em. Semper Fi.
I got the chanced to see it in an air showed at several years back. I am of somewhat disappointing about it because it wasn't the lightning. But now, I'm cool with it because I now knows better. I wishes that the wings are much longer for some reasons.
South Africa has a near copy. The Mustang 2. It can be taken apart and transported in a 40 foot con ex. Or 2 per C130. Meanwhile, we're using a gunned up crop duster.
OV are a blast to jump from. They also have the things that come out of the top of the wings that allow this thing to damn near turn on it wing tip. I was wondering why when they were talking about all these different attack aircraft why not just bring the OV-10
And still is even today, I see this aircraft everyday as our house is really close to the airport during on my teenage days, I have fond memories of this plane and even inspired me to be a pilot.
Considering the problems with using the A-10 for such missions it may be time to blow the dust off the OV-10 plans and give it another go at close air support in the counter insurgency role. Using the A-10 for such missions is like using a Rolls Royce for pizza delivery. It's a great aircraft but it is just not cost effective.
I wonder if they could make the turbo props on the Bronco able to tilt upwards, like the turbo props on the Osprey. That way they wouldn't need any runways.
Ive said for years, any theater of operation where you can operate helicopter gun ships, you could also operate aircraft like this, They would be less expensive than the A10, and more effective for close air support than any of the fast movers. Do I think that one OV10 could provide the same level of close air support as one A10, no. But if you could operate two OV10s for the price of one A10, that would equal the playing field for close air support.
..... I don't understand why a modified OV-10 isn't a current light attack/observation aircraft in the U.S. I don't think any of the current aircraft they are considering as a compliment to the A-10 is as versatile as the OV-10.
Politics. The USAF and USMC don't want that mission though the USMC uses much more vulnerable helicopters. Systems come and go for emotional reasons at the whim of senior officers who have other pet programs. Bronco succeeded because the Navy tried to overload it with radios to kill the program but the result was so good it was THE NATO FAC throughout the later Cold War (I worked on them at Sembach AB).
Bet the usmc misses this coin aircraft now,cheaper than fa18s in fuel,mv22 escort,and marsoc gunship would be nice right now,new v/hmla 12 ah1z,6uh1y,and 6 ov10x,70 to 80 new planes.Marines need planes that can loiter long and take hits,The most bang for the bucks, OV10's,AH1's,UH1's and Ship board long range guns, and missiles.
An OV-10 was modified to drop JDAM on Muslim extremist in the Philippines. I wonder who is the general who said an F-35 can do better on close air support.
AP: Well, the F-35 has 3.5 times the payload, 3 times the range, 4 times the subsonic speed, can operate day/night/all weather, can radar image the target through clouds from 100 miles away, has 360 IR video imaging, is networked and stealthy. Yeah, the OV-10 is the Sopwith Camel of CAS. Let it go, it's a dinosaur.
Pelican 1984... yeah maybe... but how many OV-10's can you buy for one F-35.. have you seen what our enemies are flying..kites the last time I looked..
Wrong. Most US wars are fought in "permissive" environments, not full on nation state conflicts, and the US successfully used updated Bronco against ISIS. foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/ov-10-broncos-were-sent-to-fight-isis-and-they-kicked-a-1764407068 That you even use the terms "continental" or "oceanic" war shows you are clueless and arrogant about your ignorance. The A-10 like Skyraider before it is another example of low, slow CAS paying off.
I asked , LtGen Schmidle, the Deputy Assistant Commandant of Marine Corps Aviation in 2014. I asked him this question during an MCU public lecture at Quantico. His answers were pitiful, kinda like those from Pelican. He was a Hornet pilot blowing smoke up "then" Commandant Amos tailpipe. Rambled on about the Bronco not being a multi-mission platform....
It sort of comes between the helicopter and the plane. It can bring troops to battle (which is a helicopter's thing), act as an observation plane and forward control aircraft, and provide close-air support and get out of an AO quickly.
If you look at all the deferent missions the military can use an aircraft for, the OV10 qualifies for more of them than helicopters, thats why its more versatile. The OV10 would be better at the close air support role than any current military aircraft except the A10, to bad that the military aircraft selection isn't made by the men that use them.
I and one of my squadron mates flew to Vung Tau in the back of one of our Broncos. Strapped us in and the cargo door was removed. Seemed to be plenty of room...but we had on civies, not full combat gear. Actually, I have a video, #6 I believe, that I filmed from the cargo bay going to Vung Tau. Aso, the troops sat in each other's lap to a degree except for the first man out.
I jumped out of a Bronco a couple times at Camp Pendleton, in a four-man stick. which was the size of a Force Recon team. This was circa 1971-72. You would sit on your ass, legs spread slightly to make room for the marine directly in front of you. There were handholds in the walls, to help you scoot yourself forward along the floor until you exited the aircraft. As I recall the pilot tilted the aircraft's nose upwards just before the green light went on, so that gravity could help us slide out the rear of the craft. One of the easiest and most fun jumps ever!
I am currently producing another OV-10 documentary. This on the YOV-10D/NOGS. I am looking for 8/Super8/16mm footage (personal or mil doc) shot May thru Sept '71 in Ben Thuy during the in-country eval of 155395 & 396 in their YOV-10D/NOGS config. I am looking for decent segue to Brown Water who VAL4 was in support of. 95 & 96 were an eval detachment which netted tremendous success expending over 2mm round of 20mm during in-country eval. Obviiously credit for contribution and additional interview level production would be anticipated. Really need to talk if you have visual resources and especially if you were in Ben Thuy during this in-country period of 1971. Ed@traffic.net.com
The army wants super fast helicopters, they are sure to waste millions to get what they want. Sometime back they, whoever they was, talked of putting the OV-10 back into production, as the OV-10X. Wouldn't that be a better/ cheaper idea folks? Just uprating the airframe with turbo fan type props like the C-130J and more powerful engines. Than spending a fat stack of OUR cash on a new toy that we all now MUST go through its share of expensive growing pains before it is combat ready? The Bronco a BETTER IDEA. Don't you all think so. A former Bronco pilot please tell us what you think. Are they cheaper overall that whirly birds of the same class
+isaac Mcpeek How dare you suggest something sensible! The money-guzzling military industrial complex has no time for or any interest in your suggestions! ; )
I often saw this first hand as many did when we were in the service. Investigate the F-104 starfish for an excellent study on waste of money, human life and horrible abuse of power and Corruption
+isaac Mcpeek Any comparable size fixed wing aircraft is much cheaper to operate than a helicopter. And at the insistence of the navy seals they have brought two OV10s out of moth balls to fight ISIS, currently they have flown about 120 missions against the Islamic terrorist.
+John doe thanks for sharing. The military industrial complex off and likes to spend way more money than it needs F-35 for close air support when a 10 Thunderbolt an ov-10 Broncos would be much better. sure the F-35 has its place but we really almost need two militaries one to handle guerrilla warfare anti-terrorism which I guess you could call that the special forces and a regular military to fight other militaries
Gromit801 with over 3,000 hrs in the Bronco it was a fun ride with a multitude of missions. I taught the Forest Service to fly them out of Ontario, CA and delivered a pair to the Moroccan Air Force in Kenitra.
annoying they keeping calling it "bronco" it's not a person. They should be referring it as "The Bronco" just like they called it "The OV-10." Seems really weird calling it Bronco this and Bronco that, almost as strange as referring to yourself in the third person. lol
I was fortunate enough to "fall" out of the back of an OV-10 bronco at Ft Bragg in 1993. It was the most fun I ever had as a US ARMY paratrooper, no doubt. TY to the Marine's who took us for a ride that day
+Jonny B -- Hi Jonn B -- nope, I really meant fall out when I wrote that. The OV-10 Bronco is going straight up, nearly vertical when the red light turns green. At that point the 1st trooper, the only one belted in, (with about 3-5 inches of aluminum seat.) :-) well he undoes that seatbelt on green, and while still vertical all the paratroopers (who are used to jumping,) fall right out. IDK about stats on actually falling out of aircraft but there are safety lines if ppl do.
Jon Miller .
My Dad Lcp. Bravo .
Told me the exact same story . And was decorated with the Navy Achievement medal wth a combat V for Valor at Hue 1968 .
WOW! That 20mm side/forward firing cannon is awesome. It's like a mini AC-130.
Our Airforce still use this bird ... Greetings from the Philippines :)
Ernan Cabral sad they’re now retiring it cause of the lack of parts for it considering it’s discontinued. But the EMB Super Tucano will be a nice replacement.
Our Aircraft!👍🇵🇭
A model I built as a kid during the Vietnam War....another group of pilots and crew that took a lot of risks to support those on the ground. Thanks for your service!
Great era for specialized aircraft... The Bronco was the pinnacle of FAC
Many thanks to the US Navy Black Pony pilots flying out of Binh Thuy for delivering superb close combat tactical air support in the Mekong Delta 50 years ago. Their ordnance, 5" aerial rocket artillery, made a helluva big bang compared to the 2.75" ARA delivered by U.S. Navy Seawolf Charlie model helicopter gunships. Black Pony combat air patrols were up and on station every day.
“Your welcome” I was an AE3 in 1971~72 but I did more ordinance loading than electrical VAL-4 was my favorite squadron.
Glad we could help. I was an AO2 '70-'72. Time flies doesn't it? The 5" Zunis were the top dog.
our air force is still flying it. a testament to it's ruggedness, durability and reliability and it runs on unleaded gasoline. it entered service when my dad was retiring in the 90's and is still soldiering. greetings from the philippines!
Bronco runs on jet fuel, not gasoline. I was a 328X0 on them at Sembach AB.
I saw one of these at the Pima Air & Space Museum (i.e. the "Desert Boneyard") back in 2009. I didn't know its history or capabilities at all, but I thought it was a cool-looking small plane.
Learning its history has been even more interesting, and it seems to me that these old planes could now be successfully put to use in a lot of helpful, non-military roles as well.
I was happy to hear they successfully deployed this aircraft in Iraq and are considering bringing it back. The OV10 and A10C would provide full spectrum CAS. What a cool airplane.
+decodeddiesel I would like it if they'd put stronger engines and maybe go back to the shorter wings the prototype had. That way it can be carried on a 6x6. No; it's not armor-plated like a Warthog but it can be a supplement thereof.
I've got about 100 flight hours in a "Research" OV-10A (N636NA) flown out of NASA Lewis Research Center in Cleveland Ohio from 1989 to 1996. More fun than I can describe.
I always loved this aircraft , seen a few in Tustin Ca, was gonna take a picture and was told no pictures , i still go up close
I was part of VMO-1 and VMO-4 and spent many hours sitting in the cockpit turning and burning, performing high power turn-ups and then flying back seat for test hops and training missions during the mid and late seventies. One thing you never forget is the sound of a Bronco breaking midfield before landing and the roar of the engines in full reverse. My assigned bird 155488 (504) met it's end flying in Columbia, South America when the pilot claimed a single engine failure right after takeoff and left her to her doom on a mountainside. I would love to see this great aircraft resurrected and brought back into service.
+Charles January I was VMO-1 AO from 81-83. I miss it every day. Semper Fi.
I was assigned to VMO-1 from Dec. 1968 to Jan. 1972, and had many of the same experiences. Got to fly back seat during training missions in the Caribbean in 69 and 70. Enjoyed working on the T-76 engines but hated New River. :)
Charles January
You mean COLOMBIA, not Columbia, right ???
Colombia is a country in Central/South America, Columbia, it's the name of several places in the U.S.A.!!
VMO 5, VMO 2, VMO 6, and the MAG 24 Det for me. Brings back lots of memories.
Semper Fi
I had an incentive ride in one of these while stationed at George AFB in CA. The pilot was OKd for 'acro', and the funny guy tried to make me GLOC. He ALMOST succeeded, I got tunnel vision down to inside the cabin at 7 Gs. I held in there tho. I would LOVE to own one of these things.
They took a FLIR ball put it on the front, and the 20mm gun from a Cobra, and put it under the cargo bay. Cargo bay held ammo. Lots of ammo. Worked out great, but they never incorporated it. Don't know why. Also engines with the later models were doubled in hp I believe. Or close. VMO2 here 84-90 Had a board that listed ops and under deployments it just said "All the time".
Mark Nelson was
Really cool little aircraft. Fit for purpose, relatively cheap, simple. Everything that the F-35 isn't.
GRAHAMAUS And way outdated, which the F-35 isn't.
How on earth can you compare the two...
Great aircraft & great video... thanks...
awesome to see...worked OV-10A with 25TASS...aircrew life support. the sound the props make is unforgettable. thanks for the post.
Funny you mentioned the sound of the props. We used to hear them long before hit the ramp. The pilots were constantly adjusting the blade pitch.
Thanks from a saved person in Vietnam
I was a crew chief on the OV-10 in Korea and Tucsan, AZ. in the 1990s.
this beast are awesome..... indonesia airforce use it from 70's until retired at 2006..... i wish it to reborn again
Where can I get a copy of that super sexy soundtrack? That was some smooth xylophone groove going on. Solid.
I believe it when on to be in the majority of all 70’s porn soundtracks !
OV-10D+
Can:
-loiter around a target for upwards of three hours.
-provide long range escort of slow moving helicopters.
-provide orbiting fire on a target with cannon.
-provide flir equipped reconnaissance.
-carry up to 12 hellfire missiles for anti armor missions.
-carry up to four sidewinder missiles for air superiority missions.
-operate on less than ideal airstrips.
-act as infantry transportation or medical evacuation.
F-35B
Can:
Accomplish some of the previously mentioned
capabilities at 33.08 times the cost of an OV-10.
But, but, but,.... The F-35B has,.... it has, it has,.. ummm,... Stealth. Yeah! It has stealth, which must be very usefull in a CAS situation.
@@sierramatchking7126 you gotta see 'em to hit 'em. Which means they can see YOU. Unless you're Wonder Woman. Haha.
WOW! The groundwork for the hog. Awesome plane.
I often wonder what one of these cost compared to that drone we use now days. This seems like an excellent support air craft. The design seems brillent for bombing missions that were currently using jets on.
Cool video.
These would be perfect for Australia’s navy, could operate off their little carriers.
Indonesian Air Force also operate OV -10 in East Timor Military Operation in 1970s-1990s, as Counter Insurgent role aircraft..
even the 7.62mm machine guns replaced by 2 of 12,7mm HMGs to increase its combat capability..
This is the most under-rated aircraft in the inventory. It's a cross between the Blackhawk and the A-10.
Nothing compares to a rectangular shaped wing. Low speed low level close air support.
Beautiful...
BEAUTIFUL little airplane...👍
I jumped the OV-10 out of Cherry Point N.C. when I was in the M.C. around 1985 /88 I don't see any videos of how we jumped them though. We flew horizontal at about 800 to a 1000 ft. . then shot up vertical with a strap on the end holding the 4 of us in the hull, at 2000 the green light came on and now looking straight at the earth the Devil Dog who was on the end sitting with his feet hanging out the back of the craft released the strap and we were shot out in succession one at a time. I was always the 4th so I got to see them disappear from the aircraft before my very eyes. Is there any video on this that anyone knows of ??? I got my Gold Wings that day with 2nd Force Reconnaissance out of Camp Lejeune N.C. which I am so proud of and I would love to share it with others.Maybe it was just a M.C. thing, please Help if you have any info. Thanks!!!
The video shows a jump at the 7:58 mark. (I was looking for the same thing. LOL) I was at 1st Recon in 1984. Had two OV-10 jumps scheduled, but Mag 39 had 2 crashes that week, so the Colonel cancked the jumps. He said if they can't fly 'em we're not gonna jumping 'em. Semper Fi.
I got the chanced to see it in an air showed at several years back. I am of somewhat disappointing about it because it wasn't the lightning. But now, I'm cool with it because I now knows better. I wishes that the wings are much longer for some reasons.
South Africa has a near copy. The Mustang 2. It can be taken apart and transported in a 40 foot con ex. Or 2 per C130. Meanwhile, we're using a gunned up crop duster.
OV are a blast to jump from. They also have the things that come out of the top of the wings that allow this thing to damn near turn on it wing tip. I was wondering why when they were talking about all these different attack aircraft why not just bring the OV-10
VmO 2 ALSS here. 1984-1991 or so. Then the squadron was disbanded. Went lots of places with this plane and those boys.
Why have they stopped using this????. That looks like a great aircraft!.
They had the OV-10's at Clark Air Base Philippines in the late 1960's and early 1970's.
And still is even today, I see this aircraft everyday as our house is really close to the airport during on my teenage days, I have fond memories of this plane and even inspired me to be a pilot.
Would love to something like this in the next battlefield game
beautiful airplane; utilitarian.
I'd never heard of this plane until a community mod of it came out for DCS world. Best part is its a free plane for DCS.
The most beautiful aircraft ever made
Considering the problems with using the A-10 for such missions it may be time to blow the dust off the OV-10 plans and give it another go at close air support in the counter insurgency role. Using the A-10 for such missions is like using a Rolls Royce for pizza delivery. It's a great aircraft but it is just not cost effective.
Powerful airplane,awesome!
CAS mission king. Even in 2022, plenty capable .
Ahora ya se de donde sacaron el diseño y la versatilidad del Pucará.
I wonder if they could make the turbo props on the Bronco able to tilt upwards, like the turbo props on the Osprey. That way they wouldn't need any runways.
Ive said for years, any theater of operation where you can operate helicopter gun ships, you could also operate aircraft like this, They would be less expensive than the A10, and more effective for close air support than any of the fast movers. Do I think that one OV10 could provide the same level of close air support as one A10, no. But if you could operate two OV10s for the price of one A10, that would equal the playing field for close air support.
You can buy more than 20 OV-10 aircraft for the price of one A-10.
I parachuted out of the cargo area, it was a FAC AIRCRAFT.
..... I don't understand why a modified OV-10 isn't a current light attack/observation aircraft in the U.S. I don't think any of the current aircraft they are considering as a compliment to the A-10 is as versatile as the OV-10.
Politics. The USAF and USMC don't want that mission though the USMC uses much more vulnerable helicopters. Systems come and go for emotional reasons at the whim of senior officers who have other pet programs. Bronco succeeded because the Navy tried to overload it with radios to kill the program but the result was so good it was THE NATO FAC throughout the later Cold War (I worked on them at Sembach AB).
The "light hog"...
TO ME THIS IS BETTER THAN ANY DRONE !
Bet the usmc misses this coin aircraft now,cheaper than fa18s in fuel,mv22 escort,and marsoc gunship would be nice right now,new v/hmla 12 ah1z,6uh1y,and 6 ov10x,70 to 80 new planes.Marines need planes that can loiter long and take hits,The most bang for the bucks, OV10's,AH1's,UH1's and Ship board long range guns, and missiles.
OK I'll take one
This OV-10 use by american late 60s and 70s in Vietnam
but Philippines air force still use this bird..
If they find good use for it I don't see why not
I'll take two
An OV-10 was modified to drop JDAM on Muslim extremist in the Philippines. I wonder who is the general who said an F-35 can do better on close air support.
AP: Well, the F-35 has 3.5 times the payload, 3 times the range, 4 times the subsonic speed, can operate day/night/all weather, can radar image the target through clouds from 100 miles away, has 360 IR video imaging, is networked and stealthy. Yeah, the OV-10 is the Sopwith Camel of CAS. Let it go, it's a dinosaur.
Pelican 1984... yeah maybe... but how many OV-10's can you buy for one F-35.. have you seen what our enemies are flying..kites the last time I looked..
Wrong. Most US wars are fought in "permissive" environments, not full on nation state conflicts, and the US successfully used updated Bronco against ISIS.
foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/ov-10-broncos-were-sent-to-fight-isis-and-they-kicked-a-1764407068
That you even use the terms "continental" or "oceanic" war shows you are clueless and arrogant about your ignorance. The A-10 like Skyraider before it is another example of low, slow CAS paying off.
I asked , LtGen Schmidle, the Deputy Assistant Commandant of Marine Corps Aviation in 2014. I asked him this question during an MCU public lecture at Quantico. His answers were pitiful, kinda like those from Pelican. He was a Hornet pilot blowing smoke up "then" Commandant Amos tailpipe. Rambled on about the Bronco not being a multi-mission platform....
ให้คนอื่นลงทุนวิจัยใหม่มันจะเป็นการลดเสียงวิพากษ์วิจารณ์ก็ทำเป็นเฉยๆ ถึงเวลาก็จัดงบประมาณซื้อแบบนี้
Add a FLIR/laser designator and load it up with APKW 70 mm laser homing rockets.
คือมันมีการลงทุนวิจัยพัฒนาไปไกลพอสมควรคิดว่ายุคนั้นคงมีโครงการ ฮอลิคอปเตอร์โจมตีอาปาเช่ เพราะกลัวมันจะเป็นคู่แข่งที่ดีกว่าเลยคิดว่าเอาของเก่าทิ้งไปเลย
WOW!
Vietnam "conflict"? Really? To those of us who were there, it was a friggin' WAR!
These remarkable aircraft would have been ideal for the Rhodesian forces.
Long live the Bronco !
I will take two, please.
i heard it first then i saw it doing recon ever since i wanted to have one be up there not humpin
While this is my second most favorite aircraft (SR-71 is #1), how is it MORE versatile than a helicopter?
It sort of comes between the helicopter and the plane. It can bring troops to battle (which is a helicopter's thing), act as an observation plane and forward control aircraft, and provide close-air support and get out of an AO quickly.
If you look at all the deferent missions the military can use an aircraft for, the
OV10 qualifies for more of them than helicopters, thats why its more versatile.
The OV10 would be better at the close air support role than any current military
aircraft except the A10, to bad that the military aircraft selection isn't made by
the men that use them.
I'd like to see them put two tri-barreled .50 cal. machine guns under this plane's nose. That could put a lot of hurt on an enemy.
This little plane is much better value than f35
We could have used these during the last 15 years.
Old helicopters, not modern helicopters, modern helicopters are much more versatile.
What if the OV 10 and the A 10 had a baby?
Can someone tell me how do 5 paratroopers fit in 2 cubic meters(according to flight manual)utiliry bay?
***** Turned out they do fit if you remove the observer's seat. Still claustrophobic as hell.
I and one of my squadron mates flew to Vung Tau in the back of one of our Broncos. Strapped us in and the cargo door was removed. Seemed to be plenty of room...but we had on civies, not full combat gear. Actually, I have a video, #6 I believe, that I filmed from the cargo bay going to Vung Tau. Aso, the troops sat in each other's lap to a degree except for the first man out.
Actually, the only time I was in Vung Tau was for my three day R&R. The squadron had already re-located to Binh Thuy by the time I arrived.
I jumped out of a Bronco a couple times at Camp Pendleton, in a four-man stick. which was the size of a Force Recon team. This was circa 1971-72. You would sit on your ass, legs spread slightly to make room for the marine directly in front of you. There were handholds in the walls, to help you scoot yourself forward along the floor until you exited the aircraft. As I recall the pilot tilted the aircraft's nose upwards just before the green light went on, so that gravity could help us slide out the rear of the craft. One of the easiest and most fun jumps ever!
4 paras or 5 infantrymen.
I wonder how far OJ Simpson would've gone in it
seems like the obvious evolution of the P-38, though i know the two arent related.
More so w/ the Northrop P-61 Black Widow.
I am currently producing another OV-10 documentary. This on the YOV-10D/NOGS. I am looking for 8/Super8/16mm footage (personal or mil doc) shot May thru Sept '71 in
Ben Thuy during the in-country eval of 155395 & 396 in their YOV-10D/NOGS config.
I am looking for decent segue to Brown Water who VAL4 was in support of. 95 & 96 were an eval detachment which netted tremendous success expending over 2mm round of 20mm during in-country eval.
Obviiously credit for contribution and additional interview level production would be
anticipated. Really need to talk if you have visual resources and especially if you were in Ben Thuy during this in-country period of 1971.
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Still serving in middle east
the USAF is planning to use this againts Isis
Go here to Bronco's daddy...ua-cam.com/video/h3liOIGmUvQ/v-deo.html. I think these are the smartest designs for the mission.
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The army wants super fast helicopters, they are sure to waste millions to get what they want. Sometime back they, whoever they was, talked of putting the OV-10 back into production, as the OV-10X. Wouldn't that be a better/ cheaper idea folks? Just uprating the airframe with turbo fan type props like the C-130J and more powerful engines. Than spending a fat stack of OUR cash on a new toy that we all now MUST go through its share of expensive growing pains before it is combat ready? The Bronco a BETTER IDEA. Don't you all think so. A former Bronco pilot please tell us what you think. Are they cheaper overall that whirly birds of the same class
+isaac Mcpeek How dare you suggest something sensible! The money-guzzling military industrial complex has no time for or any interest in your suggestions! ; )
I often saw this first hand as many did when we were in the service. Investigate the F-104 starfish for an excellent study on waste of money, human life and horrible abuse of power and Corruption
Starfighter not starfish spell checker must have been designed by Lockheed
+isaac Mcpeek Any comparable size fixed wing aircraft is much cheaper to operate than a helicopter. And at the insistence of the navy seals they have brought two OV10s out of moth balls to fight ISIS, currently they have flown about 120 missions against the Islamic terrorist.
+John doe thanks for sharing. The military industrial complex off and likes to spend way more money than it needs F-35 for close air support when a 10 Thunderbolt an ov-10 Broncos would be much better. sure the F-35 has its place but we really almost need two militaries one to handle guerrilla warfare anti-terrorism which I guess you could call that the special forces and a regular military to fight other militaries
No civil use ???
NASA used the OV-10.
CA uses them for fire fighting.
Gromit801 with over 3,000 hrs in the Bronco it was a fun ride with a multitude of missions. I taught the Forest Service to fly them out of Ontario, CA and delivered a pair to the Moroccan Air Force in Kenitra.
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annoying they keeping calling it "bronco" it's not a person. They should be referring it as "The Bronco" just like they called it "The OV-10." Seems really weird calling it Bronco this and Bronco that, almost as strange as referring to yourself in the third person. lol
service again in syria...
5 ISIS members watched this video (5 dislike vote) lel
dude just said vietnam ended in 1973
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