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Goth Broth episode 1: The Cure and the tone of Robert Smith discussed.
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- Опубліковано 20 кві 2019
- We talk about Robert Smith's tone on his birthday.
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Throughout the '80s and '90s, Smith's main pedal setup was comprised of a Boss CH-1 Super Chorus, a Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive, a BF-2 Flanger, a PN-2 Tremolo/Pan, and a Jen Crybaby Super Wah pedal, many of which can be seen in thye above image. He's also been spotted using a Digitech Whammy, an EHX Deluxe Memory Man, and a Boss BD-2 Bluesdriver throughout his career.
Live TOTP was a JC60 or 50 amp.
On the second album it was a JC120.
Early tone was a Wem amp with Woolworth Top 20 guitar
Gretsch Chet Atkins Country Gentleman on the recording of The Cure's signature anthem 'Friday I'm In Love'
Other gear:
National Newport Val-Pro 88
Schecter ultracure
Volume is just on par with the drums. No cranking due to potential hearing loss.
A forest was recorded on a 32-channel Harrison 24 series desk inside Morgan's Studio One that he recorded the Cure during the late '70s and early '80s, alongside a 24-track Studer A80 and Urei 813 monitors.
Simon Gallup's bass was hooked up to an Ampeg SVT,
Robert Smith's guitar went through a Roland JC120, close-miked with a Shure SM57 while a Neumann U47 was positioned about three feet away. seven flangers running on 'envelope. Tape delays.
Matthieu Hartley played a DI'd Roland SH-2 synth.
Producer notes: Then there was the tape delay, and plenty of it. "Oh, we were really into that," Hedges agrees. "With the machine you'd go into the left, out of the left, and out of the left into the right. The left would then go to the desk and the right would go to the desk, so you'd have two different delays on a stereo machine, and obviously when you spun it you could either have one delay working or both delays or fade between the two. That gave you the effect of it going jang-jang, jang-jang-jang-jang-jang-jang-jang - you could actually have a half-speed delay and then the double-speed one would come through it as you switched the other fader on. I also remember us experimenting with sound on sound on tape delays. There'd be a big rush, a big build-up of sound on top of itself, getting really messy, and that was great, kind of like a reggae thing. Reggae used that quite a lot.
Top of the Pops performance
• The Cure - A Forest * ...
The Robert Palmer incident
• The Cure - "A Forest" ...
If you know anything else, let me know in the comments!
Re the pic of my setup, the mic in the middle was closer on my final position (3 feet). I then promplty deleted my pics of settings etc by mistake. I'm a pro. So no Instagram pics for this one.
Any video that mentions, The Cure, Type O Negative, Paradise Lost and Prince gets the most authentic thumbs up ever!
Killing Joke, i always think of the song Love Like Blood when I think of that 80s goth sound
100 % Agreed . Most Killing Joke was one take. The Mix was the key.
Definitely gotta do Killing Joke !!!
Pandemonium: Black Moon.
OMG Killing Joke must be done next!
@@davidellis5141 just saw killing joke... it was epic!!
The Chameleons would also be incredible to explore with their use of the Micro-Frets guitars.
Fields of the Nephilim, Joy Division, and Sisters of Mercy (a good friend of mine wrote and produced several SOM tracks on the 'Floodland' album).
Nick Summers Fields of the Nephilim use a Big Muff fuzz pedal on their early 80’s goth rock albums and a lot of flange
Robert used an Electric Mistress at some point for his work with The Cure. The MXR Flanger was used while he was touring with Siouxsie and the Banshees. He used John McGeoch's pedalboard.
Smith used a MXR M117 for the recording of "Seventeen Seconds" LP.
What a wonderful video Owen! Robert Smith is such a legend (and a rather underappreciated guitar player...). Happy 60th to Robert and here’s to many more years of amazing music...
Goth guitar? John McGeoch. Absolute must. Hugely influential player who‘s practically forgotten today.
Seriously.
Christian death. But let’s start at the beginning, joy division.
I agree. As an American that fixated on a ton of UK Post Punk/Goth bands, I say start with Joy Division as well.
But being a Yank, I vehemently push Christian Death and 45 Grave, TSOL , Kommunity FK and Empire Hydeous.
Maybe even our Ozzies The Birthday Party somewhere in there too ;)
I missed this comment but I played Christian Death so much on my last road trip that I got out of the car with a different mindset. Crows and bat's made up my shadow.
Looking forward to that episode!
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Dude, YES! Christian Death!
When thinking of Goth music I always think of the song Misteryland by Die Ärzte
Goth broth suggestion Sisters of Mercy
First gig I ever played had a sister's of mercy song in the set.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE nice
Forgot about the sisters. Good one
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Wayne Hussey is the most underrated guitarist of his era. Dead or Alive - Sisters - the Mission. But you're gonna have to get a proper 12-string!
Also, another great band that has a bit of that Goth sound is a band called Minimal Man. another band that i'd love to see being covered is The Virgin Prunes!
Could do with some of Nick Cave's original band The Birthday Party, or if you consider them at all goth, Echo and the Bunnymen.
Timothy Cook Birthday Party would be great Rowland Howard’s Rig is so simple to recreate Fender Jaguar with a 68 Reverb and an MXR Distortion + And a Blue Box
@@montyryan3018 It was a reissue deluxe with the master volume. Atleast that's that what I've heard. Amazing guitarist. There is a company that makes a tribute pedal to him that is the blue box and distortion +
Bunnymen would be awesome, will sergeant told me he fucking hated chorus and never used it. Strangely in those days I saw mculloch with a JC120, those things were everywhere.
Bunnymen reallly aren’t Goth, but it’s a good shout anyway, and high time Will Sergeant’s star is more recognised.
The Birthday Party … they, along with the cure and the banshees wrote the book on goth but defied the thematic and stylistic uniformity of bands more typically known as ‘goth’. ‘Release the Bats’ is goth vaudeville, goth parody.
Would be great to see one of these on the late, great Rowland S Howard.
Great stuff... keep the goth tones coming! You've inspired us to look into releasing a flanger
Rozz era Christian Death, Shadow Project, Bauhaus, Joy Division, Samhain, Cross Stitched Eyes, TSOL (Dance With Me era), Flower Leperds
Need a Cocteau Twins episode.....if you can even figure out how to get those latter era tones.
Loved this video. The goth guitar sounds from about 1979-1983 are what I base my tones on. Would love to see you cover Cocteau Twins sounds from Garlands, Dead Can Dance on their eponymous debut.
CT will definitely be done eventually. Glad you like the vids. Goth Adjacent Jesus and the Mary chain are up next
The Sisters of Mercy, circa First And Last and Always. Please ad infinitum.
I second this!
They had passed their peak by then!
Yeah, or earlier. Alice and Reptile House eps are the absolute best.
You could do an episode on Billy Duffy and The Cult maybe? They're not strictly goth, but he has that clean chorus-y vibe going on that's kinda like The Cure. And I've always thought of "She Sells Sanctuary" as a goth tune myself :-)
That had to be done. I've already researched that one in the past but never got close. Now I'm not so hung up on getting it right.
Both 17 Seconds and Unknown Pleasures ushered in new production & mixing . Paved the way for so many. Martin Hannet & Mike Hedges get major credit as does Steve Lillywhite for " Boy " by U2. Sonically fresh. " 24 Track European Home " !
Fields Of The Nephilim would be great goth tone vid. Loads of delay, verb, modulation and interesting 'hollow', 'icy' tones.
Bauhaus for interesting use of FX and tape delays. The Mission and The Sisters obviously. Joy Division? Siouxsie & The Banshees?
THIS is where it all started. WITH Robert Smith leading the pack (and still is....). I remember reading he purposely tunes his strings a bit 'off' to get his signature 'chorus-y' sound. Love that guy, a true LEGEND. Keep it up Owen, you utterly and completely ROCK!
I'm not a gear-head when it comes to music (since I don't play), but you made this video very approachable for a music fan. I can't imagine that's easy to pull off. Nicely done!
the boss bf-2 flanger with everything set to noon is a big part of his sound. most of his boss pedals had everything set to noon.
That pedal was released a few months after A Forest was recorded. But he did use it after this record.
Goth or not, I'd love to hear your take on Billy Duffy's tone on the Love album by The Cult
YESSSSS! I'd love to see The Chameleons on here.
Bauhaus. Red Lorry Yellow Lorry; just because not many people remember them, but they were great.
baldyhead +50 for love of the Lorries!
Some suggestions for future episodes of Goth Broth:
1. The Sisters of Mercy
2. The Mission
That would be 2 episodes on Wayne Hussey though!
@@whssy depends on what era Sisters is covered. Maybe an episode just focusing on Wayne would be great
Yay! Robert Smith! Underated, original compositions. I love his spare, moody work. Deliberate notes, lots of neck sliding, one or two string tonal fluctuation.
Wow. So now I know how he got that lo-fi groove with all that production.
That live show was amazing. Thanks for linking that the other day.
That's why it's called Circle of Tone. We help each other out.
i was just thinking the other day "i wonder if he's ever done a cure video". now you are obligated to do a joy division video lol
Hehe. Yep.
John McGeoch era siouxsie & the banshees would be a good one to do. He loved the flanger as well.
Funnily enough Robert Smith said he only put his amps loud enough to compete with drums because he noticed most of SATB were deaf from putting everything on 10.haha.
@Lauren Doughty great dad.
@Lauren Doughty I wish there was cctv when dads first see lipstick on a male popstar.
Circle Of Tone your channel is fantastic and unique. You clearly dedicate a lot of time and devotion to getting all the details just right. It is so helpful for someone like me who works in a busy cover band. Thanks so much for you hard work buddy. Have you checked out The Cure at Orange video? There version of 'A Forest' is immense and it got me into them back in the 80's. The keyboard player used a DX7 live for that track. I have a challenge for you if you wish to explore more 80's / 90's UK goth bands? Take a look at Tim Bricheno from All About Eve. He used boss pedals and Jazz chorus amps in the early days and had gorgeous tone and guitar parts. Could you please, please find out how his guitar parts were recorded , gear used etc. from 'December' a gorgeous track from their 'Scarlet And Other Stories' album. I promise to become a Patreon member if you can !!!
Thanks! Great suggestion. Underated band for sure.
You HAVE to do the Sisters of Mercy - Alice and Bauhaus - She´s in parties. That distorted chorus sounds it´s the sound of 80s goth
El Padrino Yes to this. The best song from each of those bands!
Yes to both!
Just here to pile on the sisters of mercy recommendations!
Brilliant topic. Yes boy
my suggestion for a Goth Broth episode:
Fields Of The Nephilim
It's debatable how much of FOTNs Output is actually Goth but i am all for it
Awesome vid man. You always do your homework!
I saw this video and thought the title said Goth Brothel. I know I'm way late but this video just showed up in my feed.
Great video Owen, sounded very close! Killing Joke, or some of John McGeoch's stuff would be good to see (especially Banshees and/or Magazine)
Goth=The Cure
Also one of my favorite bands.
No, they don't deserve that award
@@everythingisnothing2632 the Pornography album is one of the most goth things I've ever heard. I mean, yeah, you can't categorise The Cure as a whole as goth - but that album is dark AF.
I usually say proto-goth when talking about these dark post-punk bands
I'm not sure they would come under Goth, but I've always been fascinated with the brittle sounds that Steve Albini got from his guitar when he was in Big Black. Especially on tunes like "Kerosene". You should look at that.
So good man. Thank you for all of your gear breakdowns of all the greats.
Thanks man. Glad you like the noise.
Christian death only theatre of pain tone, when?
Yes! I need to know Rikk Agnew's secrets
A landmark album !
Agnew is amazing no matter what, But his pinnacle was with Rozz, George & James for sure.
"Only Theatre Of Pain" is pure genius
Wow !! I love it. I've always been a big reggae fan, and used to travel to Kingston in the 80's to go record shopping. Yes the dub work used a lot of what you discussed. The Cure & Siouxsie/McGeoch are 2 favorite post-punk/goth (we never called it that back then, at most it was an Import in the US, or maybe alternative) but you have to include Daniel Ash w/ Bauhaus. Peter Murphy was the frontman & got the publicity, but I remember Daniel saying he used a device on their 1st single, to make his guitar, not sound like a guitar. He only played one string through all that, Bela Legosi's Dead
Has to be done one day
Damned you are good - Cocteau Twins Garland would be a nice one
I'm loving these series :)
Big up for the Raketkanon shirt!
Thanks man. Did you check out my Raketkanon vid?
I'd have thought you'd know TOTP wasn't live at that time?
Robert used MXR just like McGeoch when playing with the Banshees after John got the sack.
I'm biased, but Smith is an underrated guitarist. Just started to watch your videos. Shame that only a little of this was about Smith though? Pornography would've been interesting album to do. Anyway, thanks.
You Joker Just rewatched the video. Definitely not live. Matthieu Hartley has the guitar, and Robert has the bass. It you look closely, you’ll notice that some of the strings on the guitar cross, and the bass looks really slack. Robert most plays the snare drum part. They look miserable-an FU to have to sync, I would guess.
That live show isn't Top of the Pops. Its some obscure TV show from France in 79 and I'm sure Leo Fender didn't put P90s in Jazzmasters. The Jazzmaster pick up is unique to that guitar.
Glad I scanned the comments before adding my own, yes the Jazzmaster pickups were their own thing, not p-90s!
Nice... I really enjoy the diversity of your channel man
Thanks Pete.
Love and Rockets
Just want to clarify, Jazzmaster pick-ups aren't necessarily P90s; back then the ones in Robert's wouldn't have been. Current Classic Player Jazzmasters and the Squier J. Mascis Jazzmaster come stock with P90s underneath Jazzmaster pick-up covers, but true JM pups aren't P90s. great vid otherwise!
Yep I'm not familiar with those guitars. Thanks for the clarification.
I'm glad someone addressed this. As an offset geek - well I don't need to say anything more.
what do think about Elliot Easton,
I'm sure your a fan as well as you play and your taste is so good,
and what a great amplifier "THE ROLAND JAZZ CHORUS" WHAT DID Elliot use for those two recording "THY CAR'S AND CANDY O
also Robert was blazing " tripping on LSD" a lot back then and did say that about those color's
and he spoke about the responsibilities laid on him in those early day's, very good job singing and working all the music up, amazing
johnny Mar's next please
5 seconds in and you've nailed it, Owen.
Alright, COT! great episode..looking forward to more goth stuff!
Thanks Chris
Awesome vid - incredibly informative and entertaining. Thank you!
Thanks! Glad you like it.
Wow ! What a great , wonderful , Honest video , Thankyou
Rowland S. Howard Birthday Party & his solo stuff
Suggestion: COCTEAU TWINS
Jazzmaster pickups arent p90s
Ah. My bad. Not much experience with those.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE dont worry everyone does it, theay are much shallower and wider wound pickups than p90, they are there own thing and have very clear warm sound, i have a 62 jazzmaster , great sound but do pickup interference easily from electrical stuff
Thank you. Jazzmasters have their own sound fr fr.
Apparently, the pickup in the middle didn't work; it wasn't wired. His sound was 100% middle position Jazzmaster.
@@marcraygun6290 I have a 65, and the opposite polarity of the pickups leads to the kind of noise cancellation as found in telecasters in mid-position. I was Jazzmaster-inspired not just by various bands but additionally by a guy I had worked with who had a sort of prototype, as in late 50's with an anodized pick guard. At some point they changed the pick up specs, as his reminded me more of a Stratocaster.
When playing live in the past I would turn my Jazzmaster volume down until the line noise went away on the desired configuration(s), and then used a ts9 Tubescreamer to dial in what the guitar optimally sounded like turned up through either my Soldano Astroverb (2 x el84's) or a Marshall Studio 15 (2 x 6v6's). Not to be specific about label- just saying I got best results from an amp that was running "full sail" with tone I liked already*. If I needed "panic button" or lead tone to cut through, I could then simply start turning the guitar knob(s) up, sometimes combined with an old MXR Dyna Comp compressor.
I suspect Robert was shooting for clarity and headroom, and I have read that at some point he used a pair of Peaveys live running in stereo. My experience with higher watt Peaveys of roughly that era is that they often have a tube output but a solid state preamp, and in some cases excellent phaser effect built in, so I will be trying an old ADA flanger I recently picked up with some hybrid or keyboard amps, as in an old Roland Bolt 60, Keyboard 550, and/or Peavey Deuce or Mace.
+Digression, admittedly: ...This included an old Fender Deluxe, but it lost out being slightly bigger and heavier. Ironically, I lent it to the singer/rhythm guitarist, whom I soon learned was the kind of scheming ingrate prima dona that would shirk "labor", so it often fell to me and my history of major back surgery to lug it around anyhow. An early portent of doomed band chemistry, as it turned out...
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Excited for more! Great video.
Will Chapter 2 be Wayne Hussey / Sisters of Mercy?
Please?
he also changed the tension on the jazzmaster strings by getting a french luthier to make him a buzzstop sort of device that is two brass blocks and a brass rod between them holding the strings across the top at the edge of the tremolo. I spent a couple of years and made an exact replica to see how much all that differnces made and it does change the sloppy feel of those jazzmaster strings as theres alot of legth from trem to tuners. and no tension . also the middle pickup wired to run on its own is the secret to his early 80s tones. The pickups were the same in Tiescos, diamonds by Aria so i imagine all those cheap guitars back then came out of the matsuoka factory in japan. these days hes moved from the Jazz chorus, to peaveys (mid 90s) Roland Cubes with a supro black Majik and now of most recent Line6 SpiderV 120 amps , 4 of them in total. My friends his monitor engineer with the cure and they did have some reserves about the swap from jc120s to Cubes but I guess he was needing more years of tones at each show, now hes back on Line6 and reeves is on yamaha THR100's so i guess he can get all the old JC emulations to the later years stuff out of the one amp. hes now using the schecter Ultra cures, a huge bodied guitar thats almost a montage of his telecaster (cure in orange era) Gibson Chet atkins and gretsch hollow big body size with the single tele style cutaway underneath and an offset almost Jazzmaster top horn., its a very unique shape but when you look at the gretsch, tele and jazzmaster you can see where hes drawn from.
The other big part of his sound is the Fender Bass VI originally and now the schecter Ultra VI a unique instrument lower than a Baritone but higher than a standard bass tuned E-E with 84'-24' guage strings .. played single notes all the time, no chords and clean. this shaped the cure sound from Faith (1981) onwards and creates a tone and texture that standard guitars dont fill. listen to faith and you can hear it and Primarys lead line from the intro.
Awesome again. Thanks.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE the joys of being a touring guitar tech, a cure fanboy and having 2 friends that work for The cure on tour for the past 6 years.
What did Robert use for the intro of
" The Kiss" ?
It's the most beautifully disturbing sound I've ever heard in my life.
Salvy A peavey musician amp, Telecaster guitar, boss chorus and flanger, and of course the dunlop wah pedal. And the tone also has some kind of overdrive, I’m not sure what tho.
Looked it up, it is either an sd-1, or a blues driver
@@davidtothtd Thank you for the info!
Though they were very much originally inspired by Sisters of Mercy, I really was into Rosetta Stone in the 90s. As Rosetta Stone grew, they started to add a lot of industrial elements and started to form their own sound. I would love to see you go through some of Rosetta's very brief album catalog.
An Eye For the Main Chance is one of my all time favourite records. I always describe it as how the Sisters of Mercy would sound if Wayne Hussey had stayed in the band and started singing
Great job - I've experimented with many of these tones, and its not easy!
YES! YES YES YES! Fucking aced it man! And put up a long-awaited series up too!
Now then, many seem to suggest Sisters of Mercy, but I think they are more defined by that drum machine tone, mixed with hard bass and old Roland synths (you know, that Floodland tone). What I want is an answer to what the fuck was on Dawnrazor by Fields of the Nephilim. That Preacher Man tone never, ever let me go. So here's a hopin'!
Still, great job man, and really looking forward to what this series brings :)
Finally. A series I can really get behind.
Missed some chord changes on the Forest. Missed some gear. Friday Im in Love was a 12 string, Fender Bass VI, and what ever other guitars they may have used and Porl Thompsons guitar.
He has much more guitars then what is listed here .
Doi. How long do you want the video to be? I did say there was more info on different eras in the description.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Video is cool, was just adding to the Friday Im in Love
Oh god that song is just the worse cure song!🤢 but yeah this review was week on effects talk. Simons bass is so flanged out - no speaking of this is way rude ha!!
What vintage pedal would great for The Cure sound ( + other post punk/gothic bands) ? Would be a Boss RV3 a good option? I know it came out in the 90s but still suppose to have the Boss DD3 sound in it + the reverb..
Yep I was going to suggest the 80's boss Bf2 but you can't go wrong with either. I used the 2 on this ua-cam.com/video/JnvccQ0Vwhs/v-deo.html
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Thank you for you answer... I already have a BF2..it's a great pedal. I was thinking about the delay/reverb now... Would be the RV3 a solid option? Also, would be necessary to add a Chorus (maybe an analog CH1) and a compressor? I am trying to build a versatile board with pedals from that era to cover those post punk songs..
My fav delays are the old MXR digital rack delays but they are limited. Reverb wise I'm not the most experienced.
The JC amp used live up to and including the Faith tour was the JC-160 not the 60. The 160 is like a double 77 with 4x 10 inch speakers. Massive thing and weighs a tonne.
London After midnight would be a great Goth broth episode
Black Heroin Gallery, Astrovamps, (old) Willow Wisp
Oh man, I was just able to score a "brand new" mid-80s Boss BF-2 that had been sitting in a music store window for decades for $75. Best thing to happen for my goth guitar tone in a long time.
Anyway, band suggestions: Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, Psychedelic Furs, Christian Death, TSOL, .45 Grave, Rosetta Stone, Virgin Prunes, Nosferatu, Pink Turns Blue, Virgin in Veil, The Wraith, Ritual Howls
You should checkout
Roses of Sharon- Title fight
Youngest Daughter- Superheaven
Bulma - narrowhead
Some modern bands with flanger effect in song.
P.S TSOL next :)
Siouxsie and The Banshees, especially John McGeoch
Tunnelsnakes Rule you beat me to it.......I love his guitar work.
Late comment. But, I feel hearing you do a goth broth on the birthday party or the cramps. Would he really cool to hear
Awesome episode. Please could you look at Fields of The Nephilim?
Cripes and criminey crutch that sounded good! i need to put half as much effort into my recordings as you. another great video! was pretty thrashed out in the 80's, but the cure were always a band i liked and respected deeply, even if i didn't actively listen to their stuff. you could always tell they were legit, at the barest of ear glance.
Loving every second of this, but please include something of Depeche Mode. I would be fascinated on your take on how they materialised their synthy guitar leads on the song RUSH, from SONGS OF FAITH AND DEVOTION. Think of how many bands would sound completely different without Depeche!
Awesome suggestion
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Check out the Terry Hoax cover of Policy of Truth
Love the way you disect the music . Good to know and a great way to learn . Great.....
I miss the Boss Bf1 Flanger I used to have to play Cure covers w/ my friends. The purple one
Funnily enough I just bought the BF2. For a The Cult video.
Great video! Miss my JC 120 a lot. Even with distortion, every note has complete clarity.
Matthieu Hartley never played a Roland SH-2, at least not with The Cure. "17 seconds" LP was recorded using mainly a Korg Mini 700S (some rare parts were played using a V.1 Roland RS-09 String / Organ). On this particular video he played his Korg through a Roland JC-90.
The video is certainly not "Top of the pops", but a French broadcast called "Chorus".
Smith played a Roland JC-160. For "A forest" his guitar was set so that the middle pickup (Top 20) was on along with the bridge pickup. That's one of the only songs (if not the only one) where Smith used this pickup.
Roland SH-2 was info from the producer himself.
I would love to hear you replicate the dual bass's on Primary.
Yes yes yes! One of the most under rated flashes of 3 minute brilliance!
you can't beat the 80's for its musical creativity, great video
Ooooh, I had high expectations for this one and you sure didn't disappoint! Great stuff!
In case you couldn't tell, I'm a gigantic fan of The Cure and Simon Gallup is the coolest bass player ever.
Try a Rockman Distortion Generator with a JC-120,or 40. They sound like they were meant to be used together. The ADA Flanger is still the king still to me,(have a "79").
Not strictly goth, but the same era. The Chameleons or later Fields Of The Nephilim. Also may I add Killing Joke, The Cult and Bauhaus. Keep up the great work.
And the Sound.
They weren't P90s in his Jazzmaster. They were stock JM pickups, and he added the pickup from that old clunker Tiesco that he loved in the middle position.
Chameleons UK and Asylum Party pls!
Oh, and Virgin Prunes
👍🎵🎸😀⭐ love those guitar tones.
I remember the days when me and a few of my mates saw The Cure lots(and a ton of other bands), sometimes in rather smelly places, the ones with hardly any windows, black walls inside and sticky floors.
No windows and sticky floors... describes at least every other night in my teens!
I played various types of music in several bands and remember pedals were so expensive. The only one I have left is an original Big Muff from New York which a friend of mine renovated recently. He told me from stuff that he found out trying to find wiring diagrams that it's a rare one. I bought it second hand for £10 in about 1977 which was a lot of money. It still has somebody's name scratched on it which I googled without results. You can still buy them new, I saw one in Andertons in Feb 2017 for £60, when I was actually buying a Zoom G3xn for £151.
When Roland says Vibrato, they actually mean it. It's "real" pitch modulation. That's opposed to Fender who say Vibrato when they mean tremolo (and vice versa). That vib setting should get you the warble you're talking about. One wonders if maybe somebody just set the amp wrong? But also if I'm not mistaken, the Chorus is "stereo" because one speaker gets the dry tone and the other gets the vibrato signal. If it was actually the JC160 as mentioned in another comment, it may have just come down to which speaker they chose to mic.
Good to know.
does anyone know what the guitar in the background at 11:22 is? im curious because i built a guitar with the same finish and that’s the only other one I’ve ever seen like it
Bauhaus please? :)
Awesome sound and great choice of song! Those early records are amazing, "Other Voices" would be my second choice.
I watch the second video before the first and loving this series so far... If you could do Love and Rockets that would be awesome one of my favorite bands during that era that I guess became Glam Rock in some weird way, but they had a heavier sound that I just loved! Of course you could also do the Damned and some other similars like Bauhaus!
Well done.
Banshees of course! BTW you might find the JC60 sounds different to the 120 as it only has one speaker. The 120 chorus only goes to one of the speakers giving a wet/dry mix. Won’t get that with one speaker.
I definitely subbed you now. Great content!
Thanks Ron.