Poles are fantastic. Remember to take your hands out of the loops as you descend. A few years ago my shin bone broke when a stick got stuck and I fell and couldn't get free from the poles. Was on the Tret la Tete route, the part at Les Contamines that the TDS partially crosses.
Very sound advice 👍 It's super dangerous to stay in the loops while descending! A lot of mountain races will have signage out on route telling you so. Really sorry to here about your accident, hope everything recovered well 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Great topic as poles take some techniques and getting used to. My first time using poles was on a mountain ascend- decend trail, I was slower with poles than dead tired without them. Really helps to practice with them.
They definitely take so getting use to Greg but once you are they can make a big difference 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Started training with poles for the CCC thats coming round fast! First race outing at the UTS 50 next week, fingers crossed the practice pays off! Good luck for TDS!! 🔥🔥🔥
Another great review and top tips, Loyd. For long distance hikes I’ve used poles and that 3rd point of contact I found really beneficial. I’m one though that whilst I like the idea of running in the mountains the images of big fields at UTMB and those 12-14 mile congas up the climbs I am happy to watch others compete🙂 Looking forward to your travel adventures heading out to TDS!
It is a bit of a conga over the mountains at UTMB but it's a very special race. When you're in the race you really don't see it that way. Thanks for watching Paul and thanks for taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Great tips Loyd! Seems like whenever ultras start using poles they're convinced you can't finish a vertically challenging event without them...myself included. Practice. Practice. Practice. Best mantra and the best nugget of wisdom yet! Good luck on your training and see you at UTMB. BTW I use Black Diamond Z-Fold Carbon poles.
Thanks Steve, glad you enjoyed the video. They really can make a big difference if you use them correctly. Hope you're looking forward to UTMB and if you see me out there give me a shout! 😊 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I have the Harrier carbon poles and they were absolutely perfect for the Wild Horse 200 last week 👌🏻 Great video and scenery, looking forward to seeing E24!
The Carbon poles are great, I've actually got a pair but a friend is borrowing them for the TDS 👍 The Endure24 video should be up soon! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated Juliet 🙏😊
Look into using your wrist straps in order to take some pressure off your hands. It’s hard to describe, but you can really relieve your grip when using the straps properly. I e raced mountains many times, and it helps in the long haul Nice video, beautiful scenery!
I always use the wrist straps if I'm in a long race in the mountains Curtis. Obviously this was just a short training session and the ups were very short so there wasn't any need. I've run and embraced in the mountains many, many times 😊 Thanks for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed the views 🙏
Look forward to TDS videos Loyd! Pole training is so important. I find it takes a few sessions to get the inside of my biceps/elbow used to it. Can be pretty sore until conditioned. Poles are a game changer when deep into an ultra, even if not on a mountain. If running through the night, esp on tech or tacky terrain they will save many potential stumbles or falls as you fatigue and depth perception is affected by torchlight etc. Was an unanticipated benefit for me at least. Great vid as always! Cheers
Cheers Richard 👍 Poles definitely make a big difference but like you said, they do take a bit of getting use to. I can't wait to get out to the mountains and get stuck into some proper training. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Thanks Nik and I'm really sorry to hear about the stress fracture! 😔 Hope you recover soon and get back running, stay positive and you'll be back in no time 💪 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Nice vlog and very informative. I've asked once an athlete who was running with fixed poles and he said they use them in a race where it is always ups and downs and you knida need them almost all the time. So they don't have to fold them away neither store them and always use them as well. By the way, core strength training is very important for pole using if I may add!
Im pretty sure that's the reason. Once you take your poles out in the mountains you tend to keep them out, unless you come to a really long descent 👍 All runners should be working on core strength anyway, even if they're not running with poles 😊 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment Naim, hope you're fit and well 🙏😊
Nice one 😃👍 funny I just picked up some poles last week ready for UTS in two weeks and the Ben Nevis Ultra In September . I’ve been using them on the way to and from run club for training. Nice vid, awesome 👏 good luck with the training….
Thanks Clive, I hope it went well at UTS 😊 The training is still going to plan and I can't wait to get out to the mountains! Thanks for watching and supporting me the channel 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Loved UTS… 2 stones in the bag, fingers crossed for UTMB 2023 🤞 the poles were awesome.. stability on slippery wet hilly surfaces was the biggest difference. Up next MudCrews Plague 🤪
I have the Leki Micro Trail poles. They have the glove and clip system, very easy to unclip if you want to eat etc. I really like them but they do have a low profile handle which is smooth cork. I think if I was doing a really long hike ascent like in UTMB, I'd want something that had a traditional grip shaped handle. Looking forward to you E24 film 😁
The Leki poles are very popular and the glove system works well 👍 You actually see a lot of runners at UTMB using them but I do prefer a more contoured handle shape 😊 The Endure24 video will be along soon, thanks for watching 🙏
Thanks Jennifer 👍 If you head for Bassets car park on the North coast road. Once in the car park, head out on to the coast path on the right hand side as you look out to sea. You have to run about 500m and you'll arrive at the first dip! Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Great advice. Never used poles myself but definitely would in a long mountain ultra. Think there's a reason why the top European athletes all use them at UTMB (exception being Kilian who rarely does, but he's always the exception!) and why otherwise amazing athletes like Jim Walmsley struggle there when they don't use them.
Even Kilian uses them quite a bit at UTMB now. They definitely make a lot of difference in the high mountains. If you're are a top athlete going for podiums, you'd be mad not to use them when everyone else is 👍 Thanks for watching mate and I hope you're fit and well 🙏😊
Trainings going well thanks Dan. Your body will get use to using poles but you also want to make sure you're not putting to much load through the poles 👍 Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
I have the UTS 100k coming up and would be lost without the poles. Chose UTS to get enough points to try for UTMB in 2023 for my 50th,. I entered the 2022 lottery on the `off chance` and got a place so I`ll be in Chamonix a year earlier than expected. You should organise a shake out run befor the event for your viewers who are attending UTMB.
Hope UTS 100 went well Ian and well done for getting in UTMB 👍 We are definitely going to be doing a shake out run at UTMB, we're just trying to sort out the day we're going to do it on? It's tricky because the TDS starts at midnight Monday and I'm not sure I'll be up for a lot of running after the race 😊
They are Sungod Ultras. I've been testing them out over the last couple of weeks and they well be a full review on the channel soon. It's definitely worth checking out the review because we'll be running a giveaway and you could win yourself a custom pair of the same sunglasses! 😁 Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
hello, love the videos thanks! I am training for my first 100 miler next year, is it possible to train with poles when you live in flat Essex? I do a lot of hill work but its nothing like you have!
I think it's good to get out there and just use them Andy! The more you use them the better your technique will get and the more natural it feels. I'd take them along to your hill session and give them ago. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel,goid luck with your 100 🙏😊
It really depends on the course your running on and how long it is Judson. Over hilly terrain especially if its a long way, they definitely help! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Do you have a link for the salomon mountain carbon poles? I'm 6ft1 also so 125cm poles I think you said. There's a few different types when I type it in Google so don't want to get the wrong ones
I don’t think Salomon make those poles anymore? I’m currently using Harrier 125cm carbon poles and they’re the best I’ve ever used 👍 Hope this helps and thanks for watching🙏 harrierrunfree.co.uk/products/helvellyn-pro-carbon-z-poles
@@Run4Adventure I just watch another of your videos using them. I'm going to get some tomorrow. Great videos. I'd be interested in a UTMB specific video covering how kit checks work, do you need to prove your kits criteria, does trousers need to have the same criteria as jacket because it doesn't say on there site. Same with headtorch. Iv got 1 good one but my 2nd I can't find out the lumines. And phone data has to be left on. Spare battery pack is recommended but heavy. Thanks
No, basically the same. But for running you look even more for light weight and shorter packing length. I use foldable poles for running (BD distance Carbon I think) and for hiking I use more stable poles which pack a bit longer, more or less using them all the time and even carrying them doesn't irritate me when hiking. Wouldn't carry them when running, there you really need light und packable so you never need to make compromises if really needed. If you can forget them when at your pack, waist..., you will Take them and If steeper trails they are very helpful.
For any beginners Salamon have a good instructional vid here ua-cam.com/video/URLijAcSNL0/v-deo.html . The also show how to use the straps properly which if you are using them for any decent length of time really helps.
Poles are fantastic. Remember to take your hands out of the loops as you descend. A few years ago my shin bone broke when a stick got stuck and I fell and couldn't get free from the poles. Was on the Tret la Tete route, the part at Les Contamines that the TDS partially crosses.
Thanks for the heads up!
Very sound advice 👍
It's super dangerous to stay in the loops while descending! A lot of mountain races will have signage out on route telling you so. Really sorry to here about your accident, hope everything recovered well 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Recovery went well, have fun on the TDS! 💪
Great topic as poles take some techniques and getting used to. My first time using poles was on a mountain ascend- decend trail, I was slower with poles than dead tired without them. Really helps to practice with them.
They definitely take so getting use to Greg but once you are they can make a big difference 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Perfect timing!!!
I have the UTS 50 next week and getting to grips with my Harrier poles!!
Nice one Rich, best of luck with UTS. I've got a friend running it for the first time as well 👍
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏
Started training with poles for the CCC thats coming round fast! First race outing at the UTS 50 next week, fingers crossed the practice pays off! Good luck for TDS!! 🔥🔥🔥
Hope the UTS went well and the poles helped! Can't wait to get out to the mountains ⛰️🏃♂️
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel mate 🙏
Another great review and top tips, Loyd. For long distance hikes I’ve used poles and that 3rd point of contact I found really beneficial. I’m one though that whilst I like the idea of running in the mountains the images of big fields at UTMB and those 12-14 mile congas up the climbs I am happy to watch others compete🙂 Looking forward to your travel adventures heading out to TDS!
It is a bit of a conga over the mountains at UTMB but it's a very special race. When you're in the race you really don't see it that way. Thanks for watching Paul and thanks for taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Good evenning Run4adventure and all the runners. Helpful video. Here is my like. A nice week for everyone. 🌞🏃♂️⛰
Really glad you thought the video was helpful Manuel 😊
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Great tips Loyd! Seems like whenever ultras start using poles they're convinced you can't finish a vertically challenging event without them...myself included. Practice. Practice. Practice. Best mantra and the best nugget of wisdom yet! Good luck on your training and see you at UTMB. BTW I use Black Diamond Z-Fold Carbon poles.
Thanks Steve, glad you enjoyed the video. They really can make a big difference if you use them correctly. Hope you're looking forward to UTMB and if you see me out there give me a shout! 😊
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
I have the Harrier carbon poles and they were absolutely perfect for the Wild Horse 200 last week 👌🏻
Great video and scenery, looking forward to seeing E24!
The Carbon poles are great, I've actually got a pair but a friend is borrowing them for the TDS 👍
The Endure24 video should be up soon! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated Juliet 🙏😊
Look into using your wrist straps in order to take some pressure off your hands.
It’s hard to describe, but you can really relieve your grip when using the straps properly.
I e raced mountains many times, and it helps in the long haul
Nice video, beautiful scenery!
I always use the wrist straps if I'm in a long race in the mountains Curtis.
Obviously this was just a short training session and the ups were very short so there wasn't any need. I've run and embraced in the mountains many, many times 😊
Thanks for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed the views 🙏
Look forward to TDS videos Loyd! Pole training is so important. I find it takes a few sessions to get the inside of my biceps/elbow used to it. Can be pretty sore until conditioned. Poles are a game changer when deep into an ultra, even if not on a mountain. If running through the night, esp on tech or tacky terrain they will save many potential stumbles or falls as you fatigue and depth perception is affected by torchlight etc. Was an unanticipated benefit for me at least. Great vid as always! Cheers
Cheers Richard 👍
Poles definitely make a big difference but like you said, they do take a bit of getting use to. I can't wait to get out to the mountains and get stuck into some proper training. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
Good luck with your UTMB prep Loyd! Cheers from Thailand, have to take a 6 Month break from running, due to an annoying Tibial stressfracture.
Thanks Nik and I'm really sorry to hear about the stress fracture! 😔
Hope you recover soon and get back running, stay positive and you'll be back in no time 💪
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏
Great views and video, thanks
Cheers Scott 👍
Really glad you enjoyed the video and the stunning views, thanks for watching 🙏😊
Great video, just bought trail running Poles for next challenges.
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed the video. Hope you enjoy your new running poles and thanks for watching 🙏😊
Nice vlog and very informative. I've asked once an athlete who was running with fixed poles and he said they use them in a race where it is always ups and downs and you knida need them almost all the time. So they don't have to fold them away neither store them and always use them as well. By the way, core strength training is very important for pole using if I may add!
Im pretty sure that's the reason. Once you take your poles out in the mountains you tend to keep them out, unless you come to a really long descent 👍
All runners should be working on core strength anyway, even if they're not running with poles 😊
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment Naim, hope you're fit and well 🙏😊
Nice one 😃👍 funny I just picked up some poles last week ready for UTS in two weeks and the Ben Nevis Ultra In September . I’ve been using them on the way to and from run club for training. Nice vid, awesome 👏 good luck with the training….
Thanks Clive, I hope it went well at UTS 😊 The training is still going to plan and I can't wait to get out to the mountains! Thanks for watching and supporting me the channel 🙏
@@Run4Adventure Loved UTS… 2 stones in the bag, fingers crossed for UTMB 2023 🤞 the poles were awesome.. stability on slippery wet hilly surfaces was the biggest difference. Up next MudCrews Plague 🤪
@@clivefinnimore5304 I'll keep my fingers crossed for you Clive 🤞
I have the Leki Micro Trail poles. They have the glove and clip system, very easy to unclip if you want to eat etc. I really like them but they do have a low profile handle which is smooth cork. I think if I was doing a really long hike ascent like in UTMB, I'd want something that had a traditional grip shaped handle.
Looking forward to you E24 film 😁
The Leki poles are very popular and the glove system works well 👍
You actually see a lot of runners at UTMB using them but I do prefer a more contoured handle shape 😊
The Endure24 video will be along soon, thanks for watching 🙏
Hi, great vid. Can you pls direct me on how to get to that spot? Have not been in Cornwall and would like to train on that particular piece. Thanks!
Thanks Jennifer 👍
If you head for Bassets car park on the North coast road. Once in the car park, head out on to the coast path on the right hand side as you look out to sea. You have to run about 500m and you'll arrive at the first dip! Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Great advice. Never used poles myself but definitely would in a long mountain ultra. Think there's a reason why the top European athletes all use them at UTMB (exception being Kilian who rarely does, but he's always the exception!) and why otherwise amazing athletes like Jim Walmsley struggle there when they don't use them.
Even Kilian uses them quite a bit at UTMB now. They definitely make a lot of difference in the high mountains. If you're are a top athlete going for podiums, you'd be mad not to use them when everyone else is 👍
Thanks for watching mate and I hope you're fit and well 🙏😊
Hope the trainings going well mate, I started with poles last week and my arm hated me the day after 🤣 more practice needed 🤘
Trainings going well thanks Dan. Your body will get use to using poles but you also want to make sure you're not putting to much load through the poles 👍
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
I have the UTS 100k coming up and would be lost without the poles. Chose UTS to get enough points to try for UTMB in 2023 for my 50th,. I entered the 2022 lottery on the `off chance` and got a place so I`ll be in Chamonix a year earlier than expected. You should organise a shake out run befor the event for your viewers who are attending UTMB.
Hope UTS 100 went well Ian and well done for getting in UTMB 👍
We are definitely going to be doing a shake out run at UTMB, we're just trying to sort out the day we're going to do it on? It's tricky because the TDS starts at midnight Monday and I'm not sure I'll be up for a lot of running after the race 😊
Sorry not to do with the topic of the video, but could I ask what lenses you are running in your glasses?
They are Sungod Ultras. I've been testing them out over the last couple of weeks and they well be a full review on the channel soon. It's definitely worth checking out the review because we'll be running a giveaway and you could win yourself a custom pair of the same sunglasses! 😁
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏
Hi you say a longer hilly run, what do you class as longer? Half, Marathon or 50ks? Would it be overkill to use them for the Beachy Head Marathon?
I don't think it would be overkill to use them at Beachy Head if you think they might help 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
Poles are basic for me. I use them very often. In any mountain training and definitely in any mountain race ❤
hello, love the videos thanks! I am training for my first 100 miler next year, is it possible to train with poles when you live in flat Essex? I do a lot of hill work but its nothing like you have!
I think it's good to get out there and just use them Andy! The more you use them the better your technique will get and the more natural it feels. I'd take them along to your hill session and give them ago. Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel,goid luck with your 100 🙏😊
Never tried them. I'm wondering now that I'm older and my knees aren't what they used to be if poles would help.
It really depends on the course your running on and how long it is Judson. Over hilly terrain especially if its a long way, they definitely help! Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊
15:15 that's what she said! 😂
😂😂😂
i just paid for my first poles, some forclaz 500 poles - any good ?
Do you have a link for the salomon mountain carbon poles? I'm 6ft1 also so 125cm poles I think you said. There's a few different types when I type it in Google so don't want to get the wrong ones
I don’t think Salomon make those poles anymore? I’m currently using Harrier 125cm carbon poles and they’re the best I’ve ever used 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching🙏
harrierrunfree.co.uk/products/helvellyn-pro-carbon-z-poles
@@Run4Adventure I just watch another of your videos using them. I'm going to get some tomorrow. Great videos. I'd be interested in a UTMB specific video covering how kit checks work, do you need to prove your kits criteria, does trousers need to have the same criteria as jacket because it doesn't say on there site. Same with headtorch. Iv got 1 good one but my 2nd I can't find out the lumines. And phone data has to be left on. Spare battery pack is recommended but heavy. Thanks
Can I ask - are running poles and hiking poles (eg. BD Alpine Carbon Cork) very different? Cheers! ;-)
No, basically the same. But for running you look even more for light weight and shorter packing length. I use foldable poles for running (BD distance Carbon I think) and for hiking I use more stable poles which pack a bit longer, more or less using them all the time and even carrying them doesn't irritate me when hiking. Wouldn't carry them when running, there you really need light und packable so you never need to make compromises if really needed. If you can forget them when at your pack, waist..., you will Take them and If steeper trails they are very helpful.
@@Thefifaplayeryant Nice one. Great explanation ;-)
@@Thefifaplayeryant Nice one. Great explanation ;-)
As said in the below comment, running poles tend to be a bit lighter and more packable 👍
Hope this helps and thanks for watching the channel 🙏😊
I’m in between sizes … 185 cm tall , can’t decide between 125cm or 130cm fixed … longer better ?
I’m 184 tall and I use a 125cm pole and they seem to work well 👍
@@Run4Adventure appreciate you
16:28 .. or they're French ;)
For any beginners Salamon have a good instructional vid here ua-cam.com/video/URLijAcSNL0/v-deo.html . The also show how to use the straps properly which if you are using them for any decent length of time really helps.
Thanks for that Robert, that's really helpful! Hope you enjoy the video and thanks for watching and taking the time to comment it's appreciated 🙏😊