thx for the info. have been struggling with all kinds of hdmi cables, too. ended up with an overpriced copper cable, because all hdmi 2.1 fibre cables i tested in the past didn't work correctly over time. there were some highend cables which cost a few hundreds and they had the same problems. good to know they finally should have a working chipset with full hdmi 2.1 bandwith and support.
I too had constant issues with s95c on PC with game mode on and after weeks of trying to figure it out I managed to fix it. I am not sure why this would be an issue but for me it was game mode, and no I don't mean on the TV but rather game mode within windows... I haven't had problems since turning it off however I will say while not a deal breaker and definitely better than constant disconnects I do feel as tho its not AS responsive as it was before turning off so I think I will get 1 of these cables and try it out see if I can turn game mode back on and not have the issues.
I heard bad things about the fibbr brand (going out after a few months of use) but there are other cheap fiber optic cable brands on amazon for sale. I use them all the time on gigs and they work so much better then I expected
We should get together and sue Samsung for misleading consumers! Because this problem has existed for years with the one connect box, and it's quite obvious that they won't solve it right away! They don't want real competition for their high end gamer monitors. I already had problems with the box with my q9fn, qno5a and s95a televisions!
Holy shit mate. I thought it was caused by the OneConnect Box and nothing I could do. Bumped it down to 120hz which fixed it but now I'm keen to bump back up with this cable. Merry Christmas to you and your family - and thank you for this discovery!
Damn, i really hope this information solves my problem - I've bought a S95C two months ago and didn't know why this black screen issue happens randomly. After I saw this video I ordered 2 different version (3 & 20m) to test it. I would really appretiate it if this works like you told in this video. Very disappointing from samsung that they don't give their own solution about that. I was so happy to have bought a real gaming TV and then this happened. I bought a lot of these "certified" kabels but none of them worked as described. Thank you very much! Danke einfach nur! :)
@@changeagent228 unfortunately the fiber cable didn’t solve my problem, after a few days the issue returned. Yesterday I talked to the Samsung hotline to do a remote repair, it failed. In a few days a technician is going to try a repair of the tv personally. If this fails I am able to return it and get my money back. Then I m going to buy the s90c model. It seems there is a common problem with the cable box and insuffient Bitrate for 120hz, 4K, HDR transmission.
@@pscyokilla hi guys, unfortunately in my case the fiber cable didn't work so long. In the first 3 hours after change all seemed fine. Then the issue happened again. :( I called the samsung hotline and they did a remote repair - better said they tried. The remote repair failed, too. After that they offered me an local technician which is going to replace the cablebox tomorrow. I don't think that this will be an solution because it's common sense that this model series has an problem with 4K, 120hz, HDR output due to bandwith issue. If the technician couldn't repair the TV tomorrow I will get my money back and send the TV back to Samsung. After that I already planned to buy the "old" S90C model as an 77 inch model which is the same price like the S95C 65 Inch model. The only difference the S95C is a little bit more brighter in HDR content. That's fine for me. On rtngs.com they also mentioned this problem with the cable box. I recommened everyone to buy the S90C model. There is no problem known with the application of 4K, 120hz, HDR content. Have a nice day!
I've been using them fibbr cables for years now and considering that they are not certified they are exceptional. They are also so cheap for a fibre optic cable that I thought they were too good to be true but they work perfectly. Great choice my friend! 👐👍
I have a S95C also and on my PC to avoid the handshake issue, I moved the PC down to 120HZ to get rid of the blackouts… I just bought 3 of these Fiber cables, as I get some issues with sound through EARC with a Samsung Soundbar too… I have a C1 Oled in the other room but I absolutely love the S95c pop and color in comparison when everything clicks with no problems … thank you for the info! 🙏 PC back to 144HZ hopefully!!
I don’t know how many of you S95C owners know about this but this issue sounds like the exact same issue that plagued the QN95A when I had one, something to do with the HDMI firmware. I remember the engineer that came out to update my TV shown me the white paper, something to do with voltages on the HDMI chip itself, not saying it’s the same issue but I’m amazed Samsung are still having issues with picture dropouts.
I've had this issue for 3 weeks with my new S95C. Today, i might have found the fix? I have tried everything that i read online about this issue, and some things i've tried have only worked once, i bought a £55 fibre hdmi, it didn't make a diffence to the dropouts until I turned game mode to off then on again and for the first time i played for a couple of hours without issure and turned it off when i was done .. the next day i tried the same thing again, but it didn't help, so i turned off every option that the tv's settings has (everything that could be disabled) so game mode was off too this time and i was able to play my ps5 for about 4 hrs with out issue and turned it off when i was done, then later that same day i wanted to play again but all i got were constant dropouts and this time disabling everything did nothing. So today, I thought I'd give it another go and got it working without dropouts (after trying everything else first) by going into the ps5 settings,- screen and video,- 4K video transfer rate - then clicking the -2 option,i played for many hours without issue. Later, i started the ps5 up again and nothing but dropouts, went to the ps5 settings, clicked -2 again, and had no dropouts and was able to play for a couple of hours til I'd had enough. I'm hoping that when i try it again tomorrow, it will work. I don't know if it will, but this setting on the ps5 has worked twice in a row. Nothing else has, so we shall see.
I've had the same problem, but changing the 4k refresh rate on the PS5 to -1 or -2 means you're only gaming in 2k, not 4k. So I think I'm going to have to return my S95C as what's the point in paying for 4k oled if I can only game in 1080p. The S95C is the nicest TV I have ever seen. It's such a shame.
I've heard a lot of people say this black screen issue was a problem with Xbox Series X and PS5 as well. Some believe it has something to do with the one connect box. I wonder if this is something they could address in a firmware update. I was seriously considering buying this TV this week but after hearing about these black screen issues, I'm not so sure.
So Alan Wake 2 is having immense VRR flicker for you as well on PC. I don‘t know what it is but as soon as the game becomes heavy for the GPU (especially with more RT settings enabled) the frame rate is very unstable and jumps around in a 30-40 fps range even without even moving the ingame camera and that causes huge VRR flicker on OLED. It‘s somewhat fine in the daylight scenes, but it gets super distracting in the heavier and darker nighttime scenes. I just reached the point with Alan in the TV show and the scene after that flickers like crazy. Only gets somewhat stable with all RT settings disabled. Not even remotely stable on a 4090 + 5.8 GHz (all-core OC) 13900KS with 8000c34 memory. There is definitely something wrong with the rendering here and I really hope they fix it soon because it breaks a lot of the immersion for me, same VRR flicker with the cutscenes (which should play at a fixed frame rate) and on top the horrible mouse movement that forces me to play on controller. Fantastic game ruined by technical issues on PC atm…
Thank you! I have been driving myself crazy thinking there is something wrong with my TV or Cable or PC settings while playing AW2. There's massive banding and posterization in the menus as well. The cutscene in the start of Chapter 3 Local Girl, the car driving on the road has very messed up trees and shadows, almost milky greys. Even in the game, there's flicker but not as bad as cutscenes and menus. I am running it on a 4080 btw. So is RT to off the solution? Should I try turning off VRR for this game?
@@nsinghc2799 Absolutely not, you need VRR for an even remotely smooth experience. The flicker just indicates that the frame times are very unstable and that is a sign that it would likely stutter a lot without VRR. Best thing you can do is disable Frame Gen (amplifies the flicker by a lot) and slightly turn down the settings. I've played with RT Indirect Lighting on low and both volumetric settings at medium + 4K DLSS Performance on my 4090 and that made it quite a bit more stable. You might have to turn down a few more settings if you want a similar experience on a 4K screen with the 4080. Also turn off any sort of Vsync and frame limit. The game and also the cutscenes don't like that, also causes more flicker. Hope that'll make it a little more enjoyable for you and I also hope they'll fix all of this in future update. There's also still bugs in the game that break some parts of the gameplay, so beware to always have a few somewhat recent manual saves that you can go back to.
@ledooni I just tried this, kept everything the same and in Nvidia control panel set the game settings to 60fps fixed and that solved almost all flicker. Game seems very stable now and it's not like i was hitting over 60 fps with my 4080 anyways... even with performance dlss.
You are the MVP, and what timing! Literally just build my new NUC streaming client yesterday and was having these issues, even with a brand new "8k" rated cable. Gonna order an optic cable immediately, and hope it'll also be the solution for me on the s90c.
@@thomask4449 ended up buying a certified regular cable instead. It does work in non-game mode, but not in the TV's game mode. I suspect the issue lies in the Cablematters adapter for usb-c to hdmi 2.1 not supporting VRR, so now I have a Unitek adapter on the way which I hope will solve my issue.
@@thomask4449 yea, the native hdmi in the NUC is a 2.0b, hence the adapter. So yea, my issue is not directly applicable. It's on the S90C. It's just very weird to me that I can get 4k, HDR 10-bit at 144hz with zero issues in non-game mode, but in game mode it refuses to go above 60hz, even at lower resolutions.
LG c3 and g3 JUST WORKS. So simple. They can handle burn in better than the qdoled panels and everything in the menu just works. Plus has full 48gbps hdmi connections. Both has very nice pictures they are superb televisions but you can't go wrong with LG especially with 2023 models
My friend, I bought the cable you showed in the video, I am using it in a 4090 system. He noticed it at first, the frequency of dimming has decreased, but it still continues to do so. Even though I turned off the HDR10+, it continues to do this. I applied for service even though you did not turn it off in the video, I think the problem is entirely in one connectbox. This situation definitely increases in frequency in games running at 144 Hz and high frame rates, for example, if the game gives an average of 90-100 fps, this situation does not exist, but it occurs more when there is a game that constantly pushes 144.
I have a black screen every 30 seconds with a 2.1 fiber optic cable and on any hertz. Really frustrating and don’t know what to do and can’t return it.
It's not the cable issue. You need to make sure that you turn the TV before you turn on the PC. Don't leave the PC idle for too long until the TV turn off by itself. The dropout issue may be occurred after you turn the TV back on. If it does then you will need to restart the PC.
So after a few more weeks of testing and getting near to a breakdown I can conclude the following: 1. In retrospective there is really no difference whether you're using fibre or normal ones. 2. There are however different types of blackout. First one is the TV restarts the whole screen and the white spinning symbol comes up. That's your buggy Samsung issue. Which can be resolved pretty quickly, if you know what you're doing. Use an Ultra High Speed Cable and watch out if the device you're connecting to is able to deliver 4k/144 Hz otherwise you have to dump down to 120, 100 or even 60Hz. I have the Sony HT-A9 sound system so it's 120Hz max, if I want to connect into that thing. Which I don't want to, cause the bluray player would miss out on DTS. 3. Second type of blackout is the constant flicker of one to three seconds, the graphics glitches, etc. And this one becomes an esoteric question more and more. What did I do: changing from 60 Hz tp 100Hz to 120Hz never to 144Hz and back to 100, 60, ... nothing worked I reinstalled the NVIDIA drivers several times. Today I even blocked HDCP installation. No difference I plugged that Notebook into the TV directly into different ports. Into the sound system and into an HDMI Switch. Nope, same result. But: if I start the Notebook and wait for it to boot up and then switch the TV on. Then we are halfway through. But: Notebook is on gamemode forcing the TV to switch picture settings and that's where the blackouts kick in again. So: take the remote and press the power button long enough for a soft reset. Voila, it works. Don't switch to another channel, don't let the Notebook turn of the screen. Otherwise you have to do another soft reset. VRR is a killer feature as far as I know. I turned it off. I haven't tested my PS5 and I'm not sure what happened, if I had a tower based PC, rather than a notebook using the TV as second screen.
Seeing all these black screen issues is making me hesitate should I get the S95c for 1100$ or the s90c for 1300$..I only want the tv for my ps5 I don’t know if it will work fine with the hdmi cable that comes with it ..I also have seen some people complaining of having this same black screen issue on the s90c any advices?
are there s95c owners who are doing well with the ps5 and vrr enabled? is this a problem on all 95c TVs or not? It's just that if the problem is global, why doesn't Samsung recall its models?
I have had the s95c since mid January 2024, and I’ve already had an engineer come to my house to replace the board in the ocb, been 3 weeks and the issue has started again, I’m convinced every s95c has this issue, but only gamers pick up on it
Thanks for the video. I feel like HDMI 2.1 is VERY fickle. I have a RTX 4090, and XBox Series X and a PS5. My TV does not have enough HDMI 2.1 ports, so today I bought an HDMI 2.1 switch. For the past few days (since I got my new TV), I had my RTX 4090 connected with an older HDMI cable simply labeled UHD High Speed cable. I was able to achieve 144Hz with VRR and HDR without any screen blanking issues. Today, I hook up the new switch and first thing I tested was my PC. I immediately noticed the random blanking for a split second every few seconds. It felt very random, but very noticeable. Since I did not know if the existing cable was HDMI 2.1 (it is braided and feels rather solid and thick), I tried using the cable that came with the XBox Series X (supposedly an HDMI 2.1 cable). I still got screen blanking for split second, but not as often... but still there are noticable when it happens. Then I hooked up my PS5 cable and the signal is now mostly stable. I've had a random blanking after a few minutes, but it is mostly stable. I perfectly believe that the HDMI 2.1 switch has something to do with it, however I NEED that switch to accommodate all my gaming devices at 120/144Hz in 4K. Oddly enough, the PS5 and the Series X have not exhibited any screen blanking. I used Nioh 1 on the PS5 in 120Hz mode, and it was a rock-solid signal (although the game seems to use the YUV420 color space instead of RGB whereas my PC defaults to RGB). Have not yet tested the Series X, but I imagine it is also stable (don't have a title to test with). If you read this far, thank you btw. Really appreciate it. Btw, my PC is literally 2ft away from the switch and the TV. So I think a fiber HDMI cable would be overkill, but it would also completely eliminate the possibility of the issue being the cable, in which case it would be the cheap HDMI 2.1 switch I bought from Amazon (it's a non-brand). I guess my question is: what are the quality differences between various passive HDMI cables (3' or 6' length)? Is it better shielding? Thicker wire? What makes one cable more susceptible to this screen blanking (I imagine it is some sort of interference issue???)... Any advice would be much appreciated. Again, sorry for the long post.
I'm having the same issue with a 4070ti super (3070 before also had the same problem). PC -> fiber cable -> TV = Flawless, no signal drops PC -> fiber cable -> switch -> copper cable -> TV = Major issues with signal stability PS5 -> fiber cable -> switch -> copper cable -> TV = Flawless, no signal drops It's insanely frustrating to deal with and I have no idea what to do anymore. Just bought an HDMI power injector that, weirdly enough, improves the stability with my PC WITHOUT BEING PLUGGED IN TO POWER. It doesn't get rid of the signal issues but they're far less common with the injector between the PC and the fiber cable.
@@leoklaus I had bought some Rocketfish cables from BB and connected one from PC to switch, then switch to TV. It's been working flawless thus far. EDIT: had to go back to BB because I accidentally bought HDMI 2.0 cables instead of HDMI 2.1 cables (they were cheaper and I didn't pay attention). The new 2.1 cables worked immediately.
@@bellotriggerfish Are those fiber or copper cables? I’ve only had these issues with the fiber cable but I doubt there are any copper cables that will do 48gbps over 10m
@@leoklaus At 10m (32ft), you probably need an active HDMI cable to avoid the signal loss. So yeah, fiber. I wonder if the circuitry inside your cable is not the best. Let me check if Rocketfish has some active/fiber cables.
I also switched from an officially certified 10m copper cable to a 15m (non certified) fibre cable from FIBBR which is going from my PC (RTX 4090) to my LG C1. Maybe it's just my imagination but I feel like the black levels in Games don't look so good anymore with the new cable. I tried several Games like CP2077, Alan Wake 2 or Resident Evil 4 and I always get the same impression that it looks just a little bit more washed out now. I don't experience any signal loss with full RGB, 120hz and HDR but I feel like black levels are not as good as before. Is that a thing that can happen with bad cables or is it just imagination? Great video as always, thanks alot.
Well I've had the same issues but it happens almost instantly. I made a video showing it too. I went ahead and ordered 2 of the Fibbr cables you recommended at different lengths to see if that will fix it. I really hope so but I'm not so sure it will since I've already tried around 8 maybe 9 different cables. Some have been fiber optic almost all have been certified. I even tried a 100$ fiber optic cable which works the best but still constant black outs at 144hz. I'll post an update if the cables you recommended actually fix the issue. I'll be SOOOO freaking happy if it actually does. Thanks for bringing more awareness to this issue.
Well unfortunately the same issue persists with me. I tried a smaller Fibbr cable so far. The longer once comes tomorrow. Hopefully that'll fix the issues. I personally don't think it'll make a difference. But I'm happy at least this fixes some peoples problems. I will say 100% that the fiber optic cables I've tried do a better job of making it so the dropouts are not as frequent but they still are happening every 1-3 minutes instead of every 1-5 seconds.
I'm on a 7.5m copper hdmi 2.1 cable and getting non-stop dropping out even at 60fps - if I enable HDR or, as I've now managed to narrow it down to, simply go from 8 bpc to 10 bpc in nvidia control panel. I'm gonna go for a fibre cable as a last ditch effort and sing your praises all the way to the pearly gates if this resolves it. Should report back in a few days... edit: YUP THAT WAS IT. Many thanks. Samsung should be making it clear: this TV is only compatable with fibre optic cables.
I am worrying about this black screen problem .. I want this tv for my ps5 does the hdmi cable that comes with the ps5 cause the same problem nd I have to buy a fiber optic hdmi cable? Also there are some other people who tried using fiber optic cables and tht didn’t work for them so any advices?
@@GamingTech-UA-cam I have a 15m optical cable for 2 years now and haven't had a single problem with it. And of course I'm using 4K 120Hz HDR. For the peripherals, I chose a 15m USB 3.0 repeater cable. It's an active cable and must be powered externally. Sometimes when I turn on the PC the USB doesn't work. I have to unplug it and plug it back. Now I know there are USB optical cables too. Maybe I should grab one of those. What did you choose for the USB?
The same issue has been on Samsungs since they started using that fricking One Connect box. I still own an older Samsung KS8500 (which is now my bedroom TV) and that issue was never fixed. Never tried fiber optic cable but I have tried all kinds HDMI cables all the way to properly HDMI 2.1 Certified one and as short as possible for good measure (half-meter) and all that with no help. Only thing that seems to fix it for a while is when it starts to happen I have to do a full shutdown and turn on cycle. I mean not just put it on stand-by but actually hold the power button on the remote for 5 seconds until the TV powers completely off. Then turn on the TV and the TV will restart its operating system and all that for few seconds. Then it seems to go on for hours and hours before it starts to happen again. That TV was a bloody good HDR computer monitor otherwise but man did that issue drive me crazy at the times.
Funny you say that because I have a KS8000 from 2016 and it has the one connect box and it’s been absolutely flawless since day one. It’s been my all time favorite TV hands down that I’ve ever owned. Everything from the picture to the chrome feet and silver bezel is perfect on that tv IMO. For that reason when I saw the S95C vs the S90C I was like “oh the one connect box is my choice for sure” and then I read about the he issues with the tv after purchasing the S95C when it was too late. I’m returning my 77” S95C and replacing it with the 65” S90C (the 77” is impossible to find near me which is a huge disappointment but I’d rather get a smaller tv than keep the 77” S95C with dropout issues.)
going to try this with my s90c. was using a hdmi 2.1 regular braided cord. this happens when using my pc on games @144hz. ps5 has @120hz has been working perfectly.
I use a 65 ft blue RUIPRO 8K cable that works mostly well. I have it connected to a bi-directional HDMI splitter which can cause some random one to two second interference but when not doing that it was practically perfect and was able to push 4K 120 RGB on PC
I don't know if Nvidia did something with the latest drivers but I had problems turning Game mode on with the S95B Samsung Oled TV. Just tried a optical HDMI cable because yeah I had signal drops with a normal 7.5 hdmi cable already so thought this would be a nice thing if I could fix both problems. It all works now without any signal lose or glitches but I have now a new problem. Some games run fine but other game give me a black screen at start. Never had this problem before. Also if I change color format from 4.4.4 to 4.2.2 the screen wont come back not even after a restart so had to remove optical cable, reboot and reconnect. Look like the optical chip doesn't working with screen setting changes even from 1440p to 4k or windowed to Fullscreen gives me a black screen in those game.... Order a second optical HDMI cable hopefully with a better supported chip...
Is this still a thing!? I took back a Samsung 4K television when the PS4 pro came out because the screen would randomly strobe the signal on and off. I chose this Samsung because of the highly positive reviews at the time. I bought multiple cables of high quality. The firmware was what the issue was. Samsung never patched the bug out of it and many people on their support forums were very upset. I took the tv back to JB hi-fi and bought a C7 (2017) LG OLED
Does the fiber HDMI do a conversion of the signal and adds additional latency? If it does convert the signal, perhaps that is also why it works on the TV with this solution
I have the same problem on my TCL c845 with a 4090. On 144hz and 120hz the screen randomly goes black a few times per hour but unlike with Samsung it only lasts a single second. I'm using the exact same fiber optic cable you showed, same brand, same packaging. So this won't be a solution for me but I still wanted to report that this issue isn't exclusive to Samsung TVs, and that perhaps it's actually unrelated to Samsung. I'm wondering if it's somehow software related (Windows 11?) or maybe something to do with the Nvidia drivers..
I had video signal issues with QN95A because of one connect box,never again tv with box,now i have S95B oled and all works as should for over 20 months😁😁😁
I just picked up this tv last night. I will be using it for watching tv and ps5 play. Not gonna lie, hearing all the stories about the ps5 blackout issue is making me a little nervous 😬
send it back if u can... you wil stuck on a TV with problems. These hdmi blackouts exists since many years with one connect box models! Better go for S90C and bigger size or G3. All these guys (me also back then) were hoping for a fix on Q95T, QN95A and so on... but no fix. So test it as hard as you can with Gaming HDR VRR and so on... if you notice blackouts, don´t stay with it.
I would advise you against saying this. I got the exact cable you suggested and I'm still having this issue. I actually got 3 different fibbr cables and I tried 8 other HDMI 2.1 cables as well and the issue persists at 144hz no matter what cable I try. I'm happy it works for you but for some it doesn't.@@GamingTech-UA-cam
@gamingtech-youtube, Someone on Reddit posted saying that Samsung replaced their OCB "one connect box" (within the last month) with a new one and that it has a "purple tint on the middle section". I'm not sure what this means. If they're talking about the plastic enclosure or something on the actual board itself. Thoughts?
Something is weird happening to my S95V tv. I only the black screen issue when I plug my soundbar to my tv through a hdmi cord & im playing a game. Random times my tv would blackout for a few seconds, then it'll switch to my soundbar hdmi 3. If I turn off my soundbar, the black screen issue is completely gone
Did you test this cable on an LG OLED with a PC full RGB 4k@120hz with G-sync enabled? Been looking at those fiber optic HDMI cables and it seems practically all of them don't meet the actual HDMI 2.1 specifications. Even reviews on the cable you're featuring in this video. So I'm a little confused and hesitant.
There is no hdmi 2.1 cable. If a cable is advertised for 48gbps, that's the best you can get. This cable works with 4k 144hz vrr and hdr and full rgb 10bit
@@Guts3464 I did read somewere that somebody did contact Samsung and they did replace the One Connect box and the blackout issues were over. That is why I asked you if you did
That's odd I'm using ugreen ulta high speed copper cable which is 3m long with 4070. And it works without any problems. I know that copper usually have problems when the cable is longer than 3m. But just 1m? That's def not ok
I've been having a similar issue, only when using HDMI 2.1 to a LG C9. What happens is that, randomly, on a cold boot as soon as it gets to the login screen it goes black (no signal), there's no fan ramp up or anything like that, it just loses signal, sometimes it happens if I leave it idling on desktop. I'm on Windows 11 23H2, fast startup off, latest drivers but happens on all drivers including this same FIBBR cable. The Event viewer always shows nlvddmkm crashes RESET TDR: GPUID 600 etc This happens absolutely randomly, sometimes it doesn't happen for a full week, sometimes 2 days in a row. I never ever have this happen when gaming for example, absolutely no issues there. One thing to note as well, is that when I'm using my office's monitor 8 hours per day working, which is DisplayPort, this NEVER happens. Did you check if there were events in Event Viewer when this happened? Did the nvidia driver crash as well?
I have noticed the one box connector, on the box side, is very sensitive. Even a slightest touch, fraction of a milimeter can lead to a black screen. I presume when the connector is warm enough it can change its size a little and contribute to these issues. Even my PS3 drops signal after some gaming, in 720p…
Hello, great tip! I actually have a sony A80K 55 that I will put in another room and thinking about the S95C 65" (on rebate in my country ). I will use it 95% of time for PC gaming, do you still recommend it even though the connect box is probably limited to 40gbs?
Dude you're onto something there. Please tell how did you connect your sound setup? I'm using the S95c, a Sony HTA9 sound system and have my laptop connected to the sound system using a fibre cable and a 2m or 2.5m HDMI 8K certified Oehlbach cable back in the eARC slot of the TV. It went pretty well after resetting all cables (I didn't even know you could reset those damn cables). Then I had to work away from home for a week, I took my laptop and when I got home I had to reset those cables. But perhaps it's my Oehlbach cable being the culprit in that particular setup. So please; How and in which ports do you connect your TV, your PC and your Sound system?
@GamingTech-UA-cam Can you try to set refresh rate to 144Hz? Can you try to turn off the monitor first then turn the PC before you turn on the monitor and see whether the issue come back or not? My copper HDMI 2.1 1.5m cable works fine at 4K@120Hz but I have some drop out issue due to some other reasons. - If I turn on my PC first before I turn on the monitor then the drop out issue will be occurred. - If It was working fine but I leave my PC idle for too long until the TV turn off by itself then when I turn on back the TV then the drop out issue will be occurred sometime. If the dropout issue happen at 4K@120Hz then there are 3 ways that you can make it stable back again. 1) While the TV is on. Press and Hold "Power Button" for 10 seconds and release to soft reset the TV. 2) Restart the PC while the monitor is on. 3) Power off the TV and PC then wait for 10 seconds. Power on the TV first then you power on the PC. 4K@144Hz is completely unusable for me.
Since you do not reply to my comment so I'm guessing that the fix solution that you're recommending does not actually fix the issue. It's kinda placebo.
I couldn’t pick up the name of the game. Can someone tell me the name please and thanks. And I will be getting one of these cables if they have DP to HDMI. I get black screen on my Lg C2 And where can I order one. Thanks
Maybe your PC made problems because when you connect a PC to Samsung TVs it automatically switches to PC-mode for proper 4:4:4 chroma, which also increase the needed bandwidth.
Yeah unfortunately, the fibbr cables didn't fix it for me. I tried 3 different fibbr cables even bought one for 150$. I'll have to return them I guess. Thanks for the potential solution. Hopefully it helps others I wish it helped me as well but I guess its just something that can't be fixed with my current hardware.
Guys before you start throwing $ to buy this cable recommended, be aware, it has nothing to do with the cables. S95C hdmi 2.1 isnt full 48gb, as the one connect box eats up some of the bandwidth. 4K 144hz 12bit isn't viable, there would be drop outs intermittently. 120hz 4K 10bit no issues.
@@GamingTech-UA-cam So far only on PC, 4k 120hz 10bit even in SDR content. I had no occasion to test it with my PS5 yet. I will be testing it now playing Spider Man 2. There were no drop outs at all with my previous TV LG CX on that fiber cable.
I am using HDMI fiber cable and sometimes I can get image sometimes cannot. And when I get the image it goes black eventually. I regret that I bought a Samsung TV.
I tired everything updating drivers clean install of windows and I bought a 80 dollar copper hdmi cable and still kept getting random black screens now I gotta try this
No, it is not the same. The Samsung S90C can only get as bright as the Samsung S95C if you access the service menu and modify the TV, which immediately voids your manufacture warranty and any extended warranty you may have purchased. The TV keeps a log of service menu interactions and if each modification isn't digitally signed off by a licensed technician you lose your warranties.
I have the same cable with QN95B and it loses video to blackscreen all the time. Especially in Fullscreen Exclusive. It's a samsung one connect box problem.
In had the same issue with my KS8500 and the PS5. Unbelievable that this issue still exists. I've switched to LG and can't be happier, no more Samsung TV's in my house.
Customer beware of the reps in comments section. They are brand bashing Samsung to sell their brand products because they are struggling to justify their products cost or inferior technology and cause negatively around Samsung product. Watch the whole video gent here is trying to help you and for god sake STOP buying cheap shite cables to connect up your premium tv and Sound system. Look at the HDTV blind tv shootout colours accuracy out of the box Samsung won and motion win for samsung again. Unless you professionally calibrate your TVs which 95% you don’t or can’t afford to or can’t find a service near you then No point buying a tv that got better score after professional calibration. So to a shop play the same video off a streaming services like Apple TV + or Disney + compare them in filmmaker mode or professional if it’s Sony and see which one you like the most. Forget about XR clear unless you watch things you shouldn’t be watching then you’re fine. Illegal streaming.
S95C doesn’t support full 444 chroma at 4k 144hz , because connect box is not capable of 48GBpS data , funny story because S90C lower down model haven’t got this issue and suport 48GBPS bandwidth!
has nothing to do with bandwith. you can also get blackouts with Nintendo Switch for example (like i had with Q95T, QN95A... and i also read that for the S95C). this issue exists since many years with one connect box models.
@@changeagent228 I thought so but I called Samsung and they came out to replace the PCB on the OneConnect box, and I updated the TV's firmware, and so far no blackouts. I'll keep monitoring!
I need help ...i have the same tv and have the same problem and thanks to your video i will buy a fiber obtic cable..the problem is i cant enable the vrr on my pc with this tv..its not showing on my pc ..the option was there before but now no..and i didint change anything ..help me please
Had same problem. Vrr was listed as off when I used longer cable from one connect box to TV. When I use the 30cm one then vrr is switched on. Samsung is terrible
Samsung - crap. No wonder people complain. They make it too flat. It gets damaged during transport. You buy a TV for a lot of money and now you have to buy a cable? Only LG, I believe in experience. My 65 G3 will arrive tomorrow.
You went G3! I’m sorry that’s the worst mistake honestly you’ll see for yourself check the sky’s in games vertical banding and pasteurization everywhere with no solution and game mode is dimmed to hell
But much less... i can tell you that Samsung TVs without OCB work in most cases without HDMI dropouts (from my own experience, but all OCB Models had this issue)... but they can have Ethternet Disconnects... lol (like every Samsung TV which is a lottery on top).@@marvel764
I told my mate not to buy a Samsung, he did. Then had his screen go black for up to 6 seconds in the middle of competition games of hell let loose! Garbage.
I agree that this issue is annoying, but the S95C has a better panel than any LG OLED TV. Also the reflection handling is much better. That's my opinion of course
@@tonep3168Samsung tv's are great for gaming but have alot of problems sometimes that's why am only buying Sony tv's right now they are not cheap but never have problems with it like Samsung
Sorry, but using an optical HDMI cable did not help. Luckily, I managed to RMA my TV. But optical cable is not the solution (certainly not in all cases).
I think the issue in my case was between the OCB and the TV. Using the shorter OCB-TV cable improved things, but the dropouts still happened, albeit less frequently.
There must be several issues at play. I preordered my S95C and got one of the very early EU-made (Hungary/Slovakia) ones. According to the forums, the issue was much more prevalent on the older ones (and newer ones have even visual differences in the OCB), so maybe that got fixed eventually? Honestly, for 40gbps+, I would avoid copper cables longer than 1.5m altogether, regardless of TV.
@@GamingTech-UA-cam Yes, I have put the settings from diferent famous forums and youtubers. Filmmaker is already a good setting. My S95C dont have the perfect contrast and the natural color of the cx. Blacks lifted, faces redish and oversatured, processing lacks finess and softness. Its like a Ferrari with bicicle wheels. And last firmware reduced my brightness. I dont like It.
@@carlosreeves2434 You must have a faulty TV. The S95C is in every way better than my CX. CX is very good with SDR content but HDR content the S95C just smokes my CX
@@GamingTech-UA-cam Maybe. Can you read the trustedreviews review of the 55 inch s95c ? Because he says the same I feel. It is inferior to all woled I hard. It has a picture if you scroll down were you can compare with a Sony oled and look what I say.
The specific issue aside, everything about a Samsung TV is crap quality. There is just no two ways about it. Nothing to do with image etc it is all about crappy materials, crappy QA, crapy software and so on. Ignore the warnings and be ready for a world of pain. I have the S95B and it's propably the sadest, biggest fail story of the history of TV making. Started from top notch picture quality and is degraded to 900 nits LG C series level quality. People are afraid to even enable wifi on their sets. Just have a look on owners threads if you think that people bashing Samsung are "reps"! Lol what a joke😂
@@GamingTech-UA-cam MLA is a minor upgrade 😜 LG G3 runs circles around that Samsung trash 🚮 Have fun with the black screens and the connect box overheating and the lag of firmware updates and the pure trash support Samsung got 🚮 The rest of us on the LG sites are just enjoying our purchase to the fullest and know we will have support for years to come 😜
@@user-3zx739well then I will feel for you , cause g4 will be incremental upgrade over g3 , if I were you I would wait for 2025 . Bottom line is , majority of this is just marketing. You need to wait 5 years to see drastic difference in tv quality. Also g3 is like 400 nits more than g2 and that’s significantly brighter yet on yearly basis what do you expect tvs to do? They can’t magically look apart . A95k and 95l , s95b and 95c , same applies to them. G2 to g3 is big enough upgrade for reviewers to call it brighter than s95c. I remember when 95b came, everyone was wowed by its brightness. But those same reviewers now call g3 the brightest oled. Whatever tv you buy on yearly basis, you won’t feel that different
That's the Cable I bought for my S95C: www.amazon.com.au/dp/B09YPPM7TX?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1
That's a fair price for a nice cable!
thx for the info. have been struggling with all kinds of hdmi cables, too. ended up with an overpriced copper cable, because all hdmi 2.1 fibre cables i tested in the past didn't work correctly over time. there were some highend cables which cost a few hundreds and they had the same problems. good to know they finally should have a working chipset with full hdmi 2.1 bandwith and support.
I too had constant issues with s95c on PC with game mode on and after weeks of trying to figure it out I managed to fix it. I am not sure why this would be an issue but for me it was game mode, and no I don't mean on the TV but rather game mode within windows... I haven't had problems since turning it off however I will say while not a deal breaker and definitely better than constant disconnects I do feel as tho its not AS responsive as it was before turning off so I think I will get 1 of these cables and try it out see if I can turn game mode back on and not have the issues.
I bought this cable and it still doesn't work
I heard bad things about the fibbr brand (going out after a few months of use) but there are other cheap fiber optic cable brands on amazon for sale. I use them all the time on gigs and they work so much better then I expected
You did a big service to the S95C community, thanks you a lot!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
We should get together and sue Samsung for misleading consumers! Because this problem has existed for years with the one connect box, and it's quite obvious that they won't solve it right away! They don't want real competition for their high end gamer monitors. I already had problems with the box with my q9fn, qno5a and s95a televisions!
Holy shit mate. I thought it was caused by the OneConnect Box and nothing I could do. Bumped it down to 120hz which fixed it but now I'm keen to bump back up with this cable. Merry Christmas to you and your family - and thank you for this discovery!
The one connect box is also part of the problem but with this cable 144Hz is working just fine
Hey Marcus, Just confirming I bought the cable a month or two ago and it totally solved the problem. Thank you once again. @@GamingTech-UA-cam
Damn, i really hope this information solves my problem - I've bought a S95C two months ago and didn't know why this black screen issue happens randomly. After I saw this video I ordered 2 different version (3 & 20m) to test it. I would really appretiate it if this works like you told in this video. Very disappointing from samsung that they don't give their own solution about that. I was so happy to have bought a real gaming TV and then this happened. I bought a lot of these "certified" kabels but none of them worked as described. Thank you very much! Danke einfach nur! :)
Let ne now if it works
Any update friend? I have one too and not sure if to buy an expensive fiber optic cable or return the tv.
@@changeagent228 unfortunately the fiber cable didn’t solve my problem, after a few days the issue returned. Yesterday I talked to the Samsung hotline to do a remote repair, it failed. In a few days a technician is going to try a repair of the tv personally. If this fails I am able to return it and get my money back. Then I m going to buy the s90c model. It seems there is a common problem with the cable box and insuffient Bitrate for 120hz, 4K, HDR transmission.
Update? About to buy an hdmi myself
@@pscyokilla hi guys, unfortunately in my case the fiber cable didn't work so long. In the first 3 hours after change all seemed fine. Then the issue happened again. :( I called the samsung hotline and they did a remote repair - better said they tried. The remote repair failed, too. After that they offered me an local technician which is going to replace the cablebox tomorrow. I don't think that this will be an solution because it's common sense that this model series has an problem with 4K, 120hz, HDR output due to bandwith issue. If the technician couldn't repair the TV tomorrow I will get my money back and send the TV back to Samsung. After that I already planned to buy the "old" S90C model as an 77 inch model which is the same price like the S95C 65 Inch model. The only difference the S95C is a little bit more brighter in HDR content. That's fine for me. On rtngs.com they also mentioned this problem with the cable box. I recommened everyone to buy the S90C model. There is no problem known with the application of 4K, 120hz, HDR content. Have a nice day!
I've been using them fibbr cables for years now and considering that they are not certified they are exceptional. They are also so cheap for a fibre optic cable that I thought they were too good to be true but they work perfectly. Great choice my friend! 👐👍
Can u recommend site to purchase them. Thanks
I have a S95C also and on my PC to avoid the handshake issue, I moved the PC down to 120HZ to get rid of the blackouts… I just bought 3 of these Fiber cables, as I get some issues with sound through EARC with a Samsung Soundbar too… I have a C1 Oled in the other room but I absolutely love the S95c pop and color in comparison when everything clicks with no problems … thank you for the info! 🙏 PC back to 144HZ hopefully!!
Hi, dis it solve it for u?
Yes, for the most part but still very occasionally does it but it’s rare now
I don’t know how many of you S95C owners know about this but this issue sounds like the exact same issue that plagued the QN95A when I had one, something to do with the HDMI firmware.
I remember the engineer that came out to update my TV shown me the white paper, something to do with voltages on the HDMI chip itself, not saying it’s the same issue but I’m amazed Samsung are still having issues with picture dropouts.
I've had this issue for 3 weeks with my new S95C.
Today, i might have found the fix?
I have tried everything that i read online about this issue, and some things i've tried have only worked once, i bought a £55 fibre hdmi, it didn't make a diffence to the dropouts until I turned game mode to off then on again and for the first time i played for a couple of hours without issure and turned it off when i was done
.. the next day i tried the same thing again, but it didn't help, so i turned off every option that the tv's settings has (everything that could be disabled) so game mode was off too this time and i was able to play my ps5 for about 4 hrs with out issue and turned it off when i was done, then later that same day i wanted to play again but all i got were constant dropouts and this time disabling everything did nothing.
So today, I thought I'd give it another go and got it working without dropouts (after trying everything else first) by going into the ps5 settings,- screen and video,- 4K video transfer rate - then clicking the -2 option,i played for many hours without issue. Later, i started the ps5 up again and nothing but dropouts, went to the ps5 settings, clicked -2 again, and had no dropouts and was able to play for a couple of hours til I'd had enough.
I'm hoping that when i try it again tomorrow, it will work. I don't know if it will, but this setting on the ps5 has worked twice in a row. Nothing else has, so we shall see.
I've had the same problem, but changing the 4k refresh rate on the PS5 to -1 or -2 means you're only gaming in 2k, not 4k. So I think I'm going to have to return my S95C as what's the point in paying for 4k oled if I can only game in 1080p.
The S95C is the nicest TV I have ever seen. It's such a shame.
I've heard a lot of people say this black screen issue was a problem with Xbox Series X and PS5 as well. Some believe it has something to do with the one connect box. I wonder if this is something they could address in a firmware update. I was seriously considering buying this TV this week but after hearing about these black screen issues, I'm not so sure.
So Alan Wake 2 is having immense VRR flicker for you as well on PC. I don‘t know what it is but as soon as the game becomes heavy for the GPU (especially with more RT settings enabled) the frame rate is very unstable and jumps around in a 30-40 fps range even without even moving the ingame camera and that causes huge VRR flicker on OLED. It‘s somewhat fine in the daylight scenes, but it gets super distracting in the heavier and darker nighttime scenes. I just reached the point with Alan in the TV show and the scene after that flickers like crazy. Only gets somewhat stable with all RT settings disabled. Not even remotely stable on a 4090 + 5.8 GHz (all-core OC) 13900KS with 8000c34 memory. There is definitely something wrong with the rendering here and I really hope they fix it soon because it breaks a lot of the immersion for me, same VRR flicker with the cutscenes (which should play at a fixed frame rate) and on top the horrible mouse movement that forces me to play on controller. Fantastic game ruined by technical issues on PC atm…
Same with my XSX and Elden Ring...i like quelity mode and with RT on the flcker is terrible....much better without RT
Yes AW2 is having vrr flickering. You can see it easily in the video because of the recording. It's hardly visible during gaming
Thank you! I have been driving myself crazy thinking there is something wrong with my TV or Cable or PC settings while playing AW2. There's massive banding and posterization in the menus as well. The cutscene in the start of Chapter 3 Local Girl, the car driving on the road has very messed up trees and shadows, almost milky greys. Even in the game, there's flicker but not as bad as cutscenes and menus. I am running it on a 4080 btw. So is RT to off the solution? Should I try turning off VRR for this game?
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Absolutely not, you need VRR for an even remotely smooth experience. The flicker just indicates that the frame times are very unstable and that is a sign that it would likely stutter a lot without VRR. Best thing you can do is disable Frame Gen (amplifies the flicker by a lot) and slightly turn down the settings. I've played with RT Indirect Lighting on low and both volumetric settings at medium + 4K DLSS Performance on my 4090 and that made it quite a bit more stable. You might have to turn down a few more settings if you want a similar experience on a 4K screen with the 4080. Also turn off any sort of Vsync and frame limit. The game and also the cutscenes don't like that, also causes more flicker. Hope that'll make it a little more enjoyable for you and I also hope they'll fix all of this in future update. There's also still bugs in the game that break some parts of the gameplay, so beware to always have a few somewhat recent manual saves that you can go back to.
@ledooni I just tried this, kept everything the same and in Nvidia control panel set the game settings to 60fps fixed and that solved almost all flicker. Game seems very stable now and it's not like i was hitting over 60 fps with my 4080 anyways... even with performance dlss.
You are the MVP, and what timing! Literally just build my new NUC streaming client yesterday and was having these issues, even with a brand new "8k" rated cable. Gonna order an optic cable immediately, and hope it'll also be the solution for me on the s90c.
did this work?
@@thomask4449 ended up buying a certified regular cable instead. It does work in non-game mode, but not in the TV's game mode. I suspect the issue lies in the Cablematters adapter for usb-c to hdmi 2.1 not supporting VRR, so now I have a Unitek adapter on the way which I hope will solve my issue.
@@DjSleeb Oh, so youre not using native HDMI to HDMI but some sort of conversions? That might be a cause, too. On the S95C or S90C ?
@@thomask4449 yea, the native hdmi in the NUC is a 2.0b, hence the adapter. So yea, my issue is not directly applicable. It's on the S90C. It's just very weird to me that I can get 4k, HDR 10-bit at 144hz with zero issues in non-game mode, but in game mode it refuses to go above 60hz, even at lower resolutions.
Can you get 4k 144hz 12 bit on the s90c?@@DjSleeb
LG c3 and g3 JUST WORKS. So simple. They can handle burn in better than the qdoled panels and everything in the menu just works. Plus has full 48gbps hdmi connections. Both has very nice pictures they are superb televisions but you can't go wrong with LG especially with 2023 models
My friend, I bought the cable you showed in the video, I am using it in a 4090 system. He noticed it at first, the frequency of dimming has decreased, but it still continues to do so. Even though I turned off the HDR10+, it continues to do this. I applied for service even though you did not turn it off in the video, I think the problem is entirely in one connectbox.
This situation definitely increases in frequency in games running at 144 Hz and high frame rates, for example, if the game gives an average of 90-100 fps, this situation does not exist, but it occurs more when there is a game that constantly pushes 144.
I have a black screen every 30 seconds with a 2.1 fiber optic cable and on any hertz. Really frustrating and don’t know what to do and can’t return it.
It's not the cable issue.
You need to make sure that you turn the TV before you turn on the PC.
Don't leave the PC idle for too long until the TV turn off by itself.
The dropout issue may be occurred after you turn the TV back on.
If it does then you will need to restart the PC.
So after a few more weeks of testing and getting near to a breakdown I can conclude the following:
1. In retrospective there is really no difference whether you're using fibre or normal ones.
2. There are however different types of blackout. First one is the TV restarts the whole screen and the white spinning symbol comes up. That's your buggy Samsung issue. Which can be resolved pretty quickly, if you know what you're doing. Use an Ultra High Speed Cable and watch out if the device you're connecting to is able to deliver 4k/144 Hz otherwise you have to dump down to 120, 100 or even 60Hz. I have the Sony HT-A9 sound system so it's 120Hz max, if I want to connect into that thing. Which I don't want to, cause the bluray player would miss out on DTS.
3. Second type of blackout is the constant flicker of one to three seconds, the graphics glitches, etc. And this one becomes an esoteric question more and more. What did I do: changing from 60 Hz tp 100Hz to 120Hz never to 144Hz and back to 100, 60, ... nothing worked
I reinstalled the NVIDIA drivers several times. Today I even blocked HDCP installation. No difference
I plugged that Notebook into the TV directly into different ports. Into the sound system and into an HDMI Switch. Nope, same result.
But: if I start the Notebook and wait for it to boot up and then switch the TV on. Then we are halfway through. But: Notebook is on gamemode forcing the TV to switch picture settings and that's where the blackouts kick in again. So: take the remote and press the power button long enough for a soft reset. Voila, it works. Don't switch to another channel, don't let the Notebook turn of the screen. Otherwise you have to do another soft reset.
VRR is a killer feature as far as I know. I turned it off.
I haven't tested my PS5 and I'm not sure what happened, if I had a tower based PC, rather than a notebook using the TV as second screen.
Seeing all these black screen issues is making me hesitate should I get the S95c for 1100$ or the s90c for 1300$..I only want the tv for my ps5 I don’t know if it will work fine with the hdmi cable that comes with it ..I also have seen some people complaining of having this same black screen issue on the s90c any advices?
My PS5 only works with chroma 4:2:2 not RGB. I‘ve had it with this TV. So no: I wouldn‘t recommend the S95c
@@OldIslayNick many thanks for replying
are there s95c owners who are doing well with the ps5 and vrr enabled? is this a problem on all 95c TVs or not? It's just that if the problem is global, why doesn't Samsung recall its models?
I have had the s95c since mid January 2024, and I’ve already had an engineer come to my house to replace the board in the ocb, been 3 weeks and the issue has started again, I’m convinced every s95c has this issue, but only gamers pick up on it
Thanks for the video. I feel like HDMI 2.1 is VERY fickle. I have a RTX 4090, and XBox Series X and a PS5. My TV does not have enough HDMI 2.1 ports, so today I bought an HDMI 2.1 switch. For the past few days (since I got my new TV), I had my RTX 4090 connected with an older HDMI cable simply labeled UHD High Speed cable. I was able to achieve 144Hz with VRR and HDR without any screen blanking issues. Today, I hook up the new switch and first thing I tested was my PC. I immediately noticed the random blanking for a split second every few seconds. It felt very random, but very noticeable. Since I did not know if the existing cable was HDMI 2.1 (it is braided and feels rather solid and thick), I tried using the cable that came with the XBox Series X (supposedly an HDMI 2.1 cable). I still got screen blanking for split second, but not as often... but still there are noticable when it happens. Then I hooked up my PS5 cable and the signal is now mostly stable. I've had a random blanking after a few minutes, but it is mostly stable. I perfectly believe that the HDMI 2.1 switch has something to do with it, however I NEED that switch to accommodate all my gaming devices at 120/144Hz in 4K.
Oddly enough, the PS5 and the Series X have not exhibited any screen blanking. I used Nioh 1 on the PS5 in 120Hz mode, and it was a rock-solid signal (although the game seems to use the YUV420 color space instead of RGB whereas my PC defaults to RGB). Have not yet tested the Series X, but I imagine it is also stable (don't have a title to test with).
If you read this far, thank you btw. Really appreciate it.
Btw, my PC is literally 2ft away from the switch and the TV. So I think a fiber HDMI cable would be overkill, but it would also completely eliminate the possibility of the issue being the cable, in which case it would be the cheap HDMI 2.1 switch I bought from Amazon (it's a non-brand).
I guess my question is: what are the quality differences between various passive HDMI cables (3' or 6' length)? Is it better shielding? Thicker wire? What makes one cable more susceptible to this screen blanking (I imagine it is some sort of interference issue???)... Any advice would be much appreciated. Again, sorry for the long post.
I'm having the same issue with a 4070ti super (3070 before also had the same problem).
PC -> fiber cable -> TV = Flawless, no signal drops
PC -> fiber cable -> switch -> copper cable -> TV = Major issues with signal stability
PS5 -> fiber cable -> switch -> copper cable -> TV = Flawless, no signal drops
It's insanely frustrating to deal with and I have no idea what to do anymore.
Just bought an HDMI power injector that, weirdly enough, improves the stability with my PC WITHOUT BEING PLUGGED IN TO POWER. It doesn't get rid of the signal issues but they're far less common with the injector between the PC and the fiber cable.
@@leoklaus I had bought some Rocketfish cables from BB and connected one from PC to switch, then switch to TV. It's been working flawless thus far.
EDIT: had to go back to BB because I accidentally bought HDMI 2.0 cables instead of HDMI 2.1 cables (they were cheaper and I didn't pay attention). The new 2.1 cables worked immediately.
@@bellotriggerfish Are those fiber or copper cables? I’ve only had these issues with the fiber cable but I doubt there are any copper cables that will do 48gbps over 10m
@@leoklaus At 10m (32ft), you probably need an active HDMI cable to avoid the signal loss. So yeah, fiber. I wonder if the circuitry inside your cable is not the best. Let me check if Rocketfish has some active/fiber cables.
@@bellotriggerfish Thing is the fiber cable is 100% solid when connected directly to the tv or when I plug in my MacBook (with the switch).
I also switched from an officially certified 10m copper cable to a 15m (non certified) fibre cable from FIBBR which is going from my PC (RTX 4090) to my LG C1. Maybe it's just my imagination but I feel like the black levels in Games don't look so good anymore with the new cable. I tried several Games like CP2077, Alan Wake 2 or Resident Evil 4 and I always get the same impression that it looks just a little bit more washed out now. I don't experience any signal loss with full RGB, 120hz and HDR but I feel like black levels are not as good as before. Is that a thing that can happen with bad cables or is it just imagination? Great video as always, thanks alot.
Well I've had the same issues but it happens almost instantly. I made a video showing it too. I went ahead and ordered 2 of the Fibbr cables you recommended at different lengths to see if that will fix it. I really hope so but I'm not so sure it will since I've already tried around 8 maybe 9 different cables. Some have been fiber optic almost all have been certified. I even tried a 100$ fiber optic cable which works the best but still constant black outs at 144hz. I'll post an update if the cables you recommended actually fix the issue. I'll be SOOOO freaking happy if it actually does. Thanks for bringing more awareness to this issue.
Well unfortunately the same issue persists with me. I tried a smaller Fibbr cable so far. The longer once comes tomorrow. Hopefully that'll fix the issues. I personally don't think it'll make a difference. But I'm happy at least this fixes some peoples problems. I will say 100% that the fiber optic cables I've tried do a better job of making it so the dropouts are not as frequent but they still are happening every 1-3 minutes instead of every 1-5 seconds.
@@zacharyspencer2285 Did you find a fix in the end?
I'm on a 7.5m copper hdmi 2.1 cable and getting non-stop dropping out even at 60fps - if I enable HDR or, as I've now managed to narrow it down to, simply go from 8 bpc to 10 bpc in nvidia control panel.
I'm gonna go for a fibre cable as a last ditch effort and sing your praises all the way to the pearly gates if this resolves it. Should report back in a few days...
edit: YUP THAT WAS IT. Many thanks. Samsung should be making it clear: this TV is only compatable with fibre optic cables.
I am worrying about this black screen problem .. I want this tv for my ps5 does the hdmi cable that comes with the ps5 cause the same problem nd I have to buy a fiber optic hdmi cable? Also there are some other people who tried using fiber optic cables and tht didn’t work for them so any advices?
It Happens with any 4k VRR display and both Nvidia and AMD that I tested, thanks for your help!
Hi Markus, I'm glad I could help with choosing a new cable. 👍
Thank you!
@@GamingTech-UA-cam I have a 15m optical cable for 2 years now and haven't had a single problem with it. And of course I'm using 4K 120Hz HDR. For the peripherals, I chose a 15m USB 3.0 repeater cable. It's an active cable and must be powered externally. Sometimes when I turn on the PC the USB doesn't work. I have to unplug it and plug it back. Now I know there are USB optical cables too. Maybe I should grab one of those. What did you choose for the USB?
The same issue has been on Samsungs since they started using that fricking One Connect box. I still own an older Samsung KS8500 (which is now my bedroom TV) and that issue was never fixed. Never tried fiber optic cable but I have tried all kinds HDMI cables all the way to properly HDMI 2.1 Certified one and as short as possible for good measure (half-meter) and all that with no help. Only thing that seems to fix it for a while is when it starts to happen I have to do a full shutdown and turn on cycle. I mean not just put it on stand-by but actually hold the power button on the remote for 5 seconds until the TV powers completely off. Then turn on the TV and the TV will restart its operating system and all that for few seconds. Then it seems to go on for hours and hours before it starts to happen again.
That TV was a bloody good HDR computer monitor otherwise but man did that issue drive me crazy at the times.
Give it a try with a hdmi fibre cable.
Funny you say that because I have a KS8000 from 2016 and it has the one connect box and it’s been absolutely flawless since day one. It’s been my all time favorite TV hands down that I’ve ever owned. Everything from the picture to the chrome feet and silver bezel is perfect on that tv IMO.
For that reason when I saw the S95C vs the S90C I was like “oh the one connect box is my choice for sure” and then I read about the he issues with the tv after purchasing the S95C when it was too late.
I’m returning my 77” S95C and replacing it with the 65” S90C (the 77” is impossible to find near me which is a huge disappointment but I’d rather get a smaller tv than keep the 77” S95C with dropout issues.)
Do you get much of the VRR gamma / pulsing issue on the S95C ? I found Alan Wake 2 terrible for it on my LGC9 at 120hz.
Alan Wake is worse but hardly noticeable while playing
going to try this with my s90c. was using a hdmi 2.1 regular braided cord. this happens when using my pc on games @144hz. ps5 has @120hz has been working perfectly.
Hello Markus
Thanks for the info
I only use PC and this helps a lot
Your the goat
I use a 65 ft blue RUIPRO 8K cable that works mostly well. I have it connected to a bi-directional HDMI splitter which can cause some random one to two second interference but when not doing that it was practically perfect and was able to push 4K 120 RGB on PC
I don't know if Nvidia did something with the latest drivers but I had problems turning Game mode on with the S95B Samsung Oled TV. Just tried a optical HDMI cable because yeah I had signal drops with a normal 7.5 hdmi cable already so thought this would be a nice thing if I could fix both problems. It all works now without any signal lose or glitches but I have now a new problem. Some games run fine but other game give me a black screen at start. Never had this problem before. Also if I change color format from 4.4.4 to 4.2.2 the screen wont come back not even after a restart so had to remove optical cable, reboot and reconnect. Look like the optical chip doesn't working with screen setting changes even from 1440p to 4k or windowed to Fullscreen gives me a black screen in those game.... Order a second optical HDMI cable hopefully with a better supported chip...
Is this still a thing!? I took back a Samsung 4K television when the PS4 pro came out because the screen would randomly strobe the signal on and off. I chose this Samsung because of the highly positive reviews at the time. I bought multiple cables of high quality. The firmware was what the issue was. Samsung never patched the bug out of it and many people on their support forums were very upset. I took the tv back to JB hi-fi and bought a C7 (2017) LG OLED
Does the fiber HDMI do a conversion of the signal and adds additional latency?
If it does convert the signal, perhaps that is also why it works on the TV with this solution
It converts the signal into light. I don't think that there is any input lag difference. Probably not even measurable
@@GamingTech-UA-cam thank you so much for the reply
A shame you dont do more videos showcasing the S95C instead of g2 all the time.
I have the same problem on my TCL c845 with a 4090. On 144hz and 120hz the screen randomly goes black a few times per hour but unlike with Samsung it only lasts a single second. I'm using the exact same fiber optic cable you showed, same brand, same packaging. So this won't be a solution for me but I still wanted to report that this issue isn't exclusive to Samsung TVs, and that perhaps it's actually unrelated to Samsung. I'm wondering if it's somehow software related (Windows 11?) or maybe something to do with the Nvidia drivers..
I had video signal issues with QN95A because of one connect box,never again tv with box,now i have S95B oled and all works as should for over 20 months😁😁😁
I just picked up this tv last night. I will be using it for watching tv and ps5 play. Not gonna lie, hearing all the stories about the ps5 blackout issue is making me a little nervous 😬
send it back if u can... you wil stuck on a TV with problems. These hdmi blackouts exists since many years with one connect box models! Better go for S90C and bigger size or G3. All these guys (me also back then) were hoping for a fix on Q95T, QN95A and so on... but no fix.
So test it as hard as you can with Gaming HDR VRR and so on... if you notice blackouts, don´t stay with it.
Best tv out get good cables
The S95C is a good choice. Get a proper hdmi fibre cable 2m and you will never have any issue.
I would advise you against saying this. I got the exact cable you suggested and I'm still having this issue. I actually got 3 different fibbr cables and I tried 8 other HDMI 2.1 cables as well and the issue persists at 144hz no matter what cable I try. I'm happy it works for you but for some it doesn't.@@GamingTech-UA-cam
@gamingtech-youtube, Someone on Reddit posted saying that Samsung replaced their OCB "one connect box" (within the last month) with a new one and that it has a "purple tint on the middle section". I'm not sure what this means. If they're talking about the plastic enclosure or something on the actual board itself. Thoughts?
Love you mate you save me a lot of time and mony buy using a diffrent HDMI ove and ovber again!!!!!!!!!!!
Something is weird happening to my S95V tv. I only the black screen issue when I plug my soundbar to my tv through a hdmi cord & im playing a game. Random times my tv would blackout for a few seconds, then it'll switch to my soundbar hdmi 3. If I turn off my soundbar, the black screen issue is completely gone
That's interesting. Have you tried shorter and better cables?
Did you test this cable on an LG OLED with a PC full RGB 4k@120hz with G-sync enabled? Been looking at those fiber optic HDMI cables and it seems practically all of them don't meet the actual HDMI 2.1 specifications. Even reviews on the cable you're featuring in this video. So I'm a little confused and hesitant.
There is no hdmi 2.1 cable. If a cable is advertised for 48gbps, that's the best you can get. This cable works with 4k 144hz vrr and hdr and full rgb 10bit
The latest Cyberpunk update adds HDR10+!
Really? 2.1 update ?
@@MrStrictlyOLED yes, it is in the patch notes
Link?
I dont think so 😉
@@GamingTech-UA-cam Oh yeah? And now you do think so?
what kind of cable do u use when playing ps5? i use the ps5 cable and my s95c still drops every time i play
Do you have black outs with 120hz On and VRR On? And what about putting them Off?
yes happens with them on and when off screen goes black for couple of seconds
@@Guts3464 Woww that is not good!! Did you contact Samsung to see if they can replace the tv or One Connect box?
no didnt thank they would do anything after reading others people comments with the same problem seems like samsung isnt doing anything about it
@@Guts3464 I did read somewere that somebody did contact Samsung and they did replace the One Connect box and the blackout issues were over. That is why I asked you if you did
That's odd
I'm using ugreen ulta high speed copper cable which is 3m long with 4070. And it works without any problems. I know that copper usually have problems when the cable is longer than 3m. But just 1m? That's def not ok
I know and I don't like it. The good news is th5I haven't had a single issue since I am using the new cable
actually I think there are still copper wires inside the optical cable but the image signal is done over fiber
I would like to know more about hdmi fiber cables with xbox series x. Does it reduce input latency is there any other advantages over copper cables?
If your hdmi cable works, no need to buy a new one. Forget about input lag on a 5m cable
This dropout can cause long terme danmage on unit? Usure prématuré?
I've been having a similar issue, only when using HDMI 2.1 to a LG C9. What happens is that, randomly, on a cold boot as soon as it gets to the login screen it goes black (no signal), there's no fan ramp up or anything like that, it just loses signal, sometimes it happens if I leave it idling on desktop. I'm on Windows 11 23H2, fast startup off, latest drivers but happens on all drivers including this same FIBBR cable. The Event viewer always shows nlvddmkm crashes RESET TDR: GPUID 600 etc
This happens absolutely randomly, sometimes it doesn't happen for a full week, sometimes 2 days in a row. I never ever have this happen when gaming for example, absolutely no issues there.
One thing to note as well, is that when I'm using my office's monitor 8 hours per day working, which is DisplayPort, this NEVER happens.
Did you check if there were events in Event Viewer when this happened? Did the nvidia driver crash as well?
This tv is still only 40 not the full 48 G per sec?
The real issue is the HDMI 2.1 standard. I went through at least five cables before I finally settled on a decent one with my C2.
I bought bran new cable for my G2 and CX and they are working fine, just the S95C in combination with a PC makes issues.
I have noticed the one box connector, on the box side, is very sensitive. Even a slightest touch, fraction of a milimeter can lead to a black screen. I presume when the connector is warm enough it can change its size a little and contribute to these issues. Even my PS3 drops signal after some gaming, in 720p…
Can you give an update on this? Still working?
Also- Cyberpunk 2.1 update released today with HDR10+ Gaming support on Nvidia GPUs and Samsung TVs. Testing soon I assume? :D
Yes but not sure when!
Hello, great tip! I actually have a sony A80K 55 that I will put in another room and thinking about the S95C 65" (on rebate in my country ). I will use it 95% of time for PC gaming, do you still recommend it even though the connect box is probably limited to 40gbs?
I have no issues playing on this TV with my 4080 in HDR 4K and 120FPS
I had the same issue with my PS4/PS5 on my old QLED from 2018! That's when I stopped buying Samsung
Dude you're onto something there. Please tell how did you connect your sound setup?
I'm using the S95c, a Sony HTA9 sound system and have my laptop connected to the sound system using a fibre cable and a 2m or 2.5m HDMI 8K certified Oehlbach cable back in the eARC slot of the TV.
It went pretty well after resetting all cables (I didn't even know you could reset those damn cables). Then I had to work away from home for a week, I took my laptop and when I got home I had to reset those cables.
But perhaps it's my Oehlbach cable being the culprit in that particular setup.
So please;
How and in which ports do you connect your TV, your PC and your Sound system?
@GamingTech-UA-cam
Can you try to set refresh rate to 144Hz?
Can you try to turn off the monitor first then turn the PC before you turn on the monitor and see whether the issue come back or not?
My copper HDMI 2.1 1.5m cable works fine at 4K@120Hz but I have some drop out issue due to some other reasons.
- If I turn on my PC first before I turn on the monitor then the drop out issue will be occurred.
- If It was working fine but I leave my PC idle for too long until the TV turn off by itself then
when I turn on back the TV then the drop out issue will be occurred sometime.
If the dropout issue happen at 4K@120Hz then there are 3 ways that you can make it stable back again.
1) While the TV is on. Press and Hold "Power Button" for 10 seconds and release to soft reset the TV.
2) Restart the PC while the monitor is on.
3) Power off the TV and PC then wait for 10 seconds. Power on the TV first then you power on the PC.
4K@144Hz is completely unusable for me.
Since you do not reply to my comment so I'm guessing that the fix solution that you're recommending does not actually fix the issue.
It's kinda placebo.
I couldn’t pick up the name of the game. Can someone tell me the name please and thanks. And I will be getting one of these cables if they have DP to HDMI. I get black screen on my Lg C2
And where can I order one. Thanks
Didn’t help😢 what can you recommend?
I can't see 120hz option. Only 144hz. Help!
Well done, smart man
Thank you Sir 🎉🔥
Maybe your PC made problems because when you connect a PC to Samsung TVs it automatically switches to PC-mode for proper 4:4:4 chroma, which also increase the needed bandwidth.
Not using pc mode. Always using game mode
@@GamingTech-UA-cam You can be in PC-mode while using game-mode.
What's the best fiber cable to get??
Thanks it works😊🎉
Yeah unfortunately, the fibbr cables didn't fix it for me. I tried 3 different fibbr cables even bought one for 150$. I'll have to return them I guess. Thanks for the potential solution. Hopefully it helps others I wish it helped me as well but I guess its just something that can't be fixed with my current hardware.
I have Unitek HDMI 15M fiber optic and S95C, dropouts are still happening from time to time on PC
In what resolution and refresh rate? Just on PC?
Guys before you start throwing $ to buy this cable recommended, be aware, it has nothing to do with the cables. S95C hdmi 2.1 isnt full 48gb, as the one connect box eats up some of the bandwidth. 4K 144hz 12bit isn't viable, there would be drop outs intermittently. 120hz 4K 10bit no issues.
@@mooglemog4913 I had issues with 120hz 10bit before as well. 144hz 10bit runs now perfect.
@@GamingTech-UA-cam So far only on PC, 4k 120hz 10bit even in SDR content. I had no occasion to test it with my PS5 yet. I will be testing it now playing Spider Man 2. There were no drop outs at all with my previous TV LG CX on that fiber cable.
it’s an AOC cable ?
I am using HDMI fiber cable and sometimes I can get image sometimes cannot. And when I get the image it goes black eventually. I regret that I bought a Samsung TV.
I tired everything updating drivers clean install of windows and I bought a 80 dollar copper hdmi cable and still kept getting random black screens now I gotta try this
Just got a fibbr cable and i’m now losing signal completely
Just bought another one as I thought it was faulty and still having dropouts with my ps5 in 4k…….
Still working well?
Should we buy s90C with a gen 2 panel compared to s95c, it’s cheaper and brightness should be similar and it’s 48 gbps no one connect issues
No, it is not the same. The Samsung S90C can only get as bright as the Samsung S95C if you access the service menu and modify the TV, which immediately voids your manufacture warranty and any extended warranty you may have purchased. The TV keeps a log of service menu interactions and if each modification isn't digitally signed off by a licensed technician you lose your warranties.
@@Cborri gen 2 panel also not as bright as s95c aka the 77 inch s90c model?
@@NayaraSiddiqua that's correct. It only gets as bright if you access the service menu, mod the TV, and void your warranty.
Merci beaucoup
Hello this issue works well thanks but i Lost dolby digital sound on my pc my sound bar now displays stéréo pcm.
so still and issue?? what to do??
I have the same cable with QN95B and it loses video to blackscreen all the time. Especially in Fullscreen Exclusive.
It's a samsung one connect box problem.
A shame you don't use your G2 for games, it's a good TV
I am using my G2 way more than my S95C 😉
In had the same issue with my KS8500 and the PS5. Unbelievable that this issue still exists. I've switched to LG and can't be happier, no more Samsung TV's in my house.
Customer beware of the reps in comments section. They are brand bashing Samsung to sell their brand products because they are struggling to justify their products cost or inferior technology and cause negatively around Samsung product. Watch the whole video gent here is trying to help you and for god sake STOP buying cheap shite cables to connect up your premium tv and Sound system. Look at the HDTV blind tv shootout colours accuracy out of the box Samsung won and motion win for samsung again. Unless you professionally calibrate your TVs which 95% you don’t or can’t afford to or can’t find a service near you then No point buying a tv that got better score after professional calibration. So to a shop play the same video off a streaming services like Apple TV + or Disney + compare them in filmmaker mode or professional if it’s Sony and see which one you like the most. Forget about XR clear unless you watch things you shouldn’t be watching then you’re fine. Illegal streaming.
I understand the One connect box is maxed out at 40Gbps instead of 48Gbps
S95C doesn’t support full 444 chroma at 4k 144hz , because connect box is not capable of 48GBpS data , funny story because S90C lower down model haven’t got this issue and suport 48GBPS bandwidth!
has nothing to do with bandwith. you can also get blackouts with Nintendo Switch for example (like i had with Q95T, QN95A... and i also read that for the S95C). this issue exists since many years with one connect box models.
Yes with DSC 48gbps isn’t needed
Wouldn't 4k HDR 444 chroma 144hz take it over 48gbs anyway?
An update: After running this cable for the last 6 months, the issue returned.
It's possible the cable failed. I read especially these FIBBR ones that have terrible reviews.
@@changeagent228 I thought so but I called Samsung and they came out to replace the PCB on the OneConnect box, and I updated the TV's firmware, and so far no blackouts. I'll keep monitoring!
a tv that forces me to change hardware needlessly is a no go for me
I need help ...i have the same tv and have the same problem and thanks to your video i will buy a fiber obtic cable..the problem is i cant enable the vrr on my pc with this tv..its not showing on my pc ..the option was there before but now no..and i didint change anything ..help me please
Had same problem. Vrr was listed as off when I used longer cable from one connect box to TV. When I use the 30cm one then vrr is switched on. Samsung is terrible
Samsung - crap. No wonder people complain. They make it too flat. It gets damaged during transport. You buy a TV for a lot of money and now you have to buy a cable? Only LG, I believe in experience. My 65 G3 will arrive tomorrow.
You went G3! I’m sorry that’s the worst mistake honestly you’ll see for yourself check the sky’s in games vertical banding and pasteurization everywhere with no solution and game mode is dimmed to hell
@NexGenTek LG don't require these type of videos as it never happens 😅
@@hogman3543 Lg is the worse out of the big 3
@@NexGenTek That's why it never occurs these problems 😉
@@hogman3543 There problems are worse washed out color and Dirty screen effect 😉
👀 speakers above the TV? 🤔
yes Centre Speaker , much better than under the TV 😊
It's a one connect box issue, S90C doesn't have that problem
It is also the s90c go check the forums and UA-cam!
But much less... i can tell you that Samsung TVs without OCB work in most cases without HDMI dropouts (from my own experience, but all OCB Models had this issue)... but they can have Ethternet Disconnects... lol (like every Samsung TV which is a lottery on top).@@marvel764
Thanks didn't know that @@marvel764
I had my first issue of this today on my ps5 playing plague tale
I told my mate not to buy a Samsung, he did. Then had his screen go black for up to 6 seconds in the middle of competition games of hell let loose! Garbage.
I stopped buying cheap Samsung junk priced up to look like quality years ago due to stuff like this. I see they haven't changed.
Cheap lol this tv smokes everything out! Even Sony hoped on board for there panel! Guarantee you have nothing better!
because you’re a rep for another brand like SONY or LG or a brand bashing retail employee lol.
I agree that this issue is annoying, but the S95C has a better panel than any LG OLED TV. Also the reflection handling is much better. That's my opinion of course
@@DisplayNAudioTech I’m a rep because I didn’t buy the same shit you did? Lololololol
@@tonep3168Samsung tv's are great for gaming but have alot of problems sometimes that's why am only buying Sony tv's right now they are not cheap but never have problems with it like Samsung
Sorry, but using an optical HDMI cable did not help. Luckily, I managed to RMA my TV.
But optical cable is not the solution (certainly not in all cases).
I think the issue in my case was between the OCB and the TV. Using the shorter OCB-TV cable improved things, but the dropouts still happened, albeit less frequently.
It still works without any issue on my TV. I haven't tried the long OCB cable though.
There must be several issues at play. I preordered my S95C and got one of the very early EU-made (Hungary/Slovakia) ones. According to the forums, the issue was much more prevalent on the older ones (and newer ones have even visual differences in the OCB), so maybe that got fixed eventually?
Honestly, for 40gbps+, I would avoid copper cables longer than 1.5m altogether, regardless of TV.
What is the game at 5:28
Alan Wake 2
@@GamingTech-UA-cam ok thanks
A bit sad that this guy doesn’t interact with the comments. The connect box issue is interesting
Isn’t the issue
🥸 Any Idea what time it was when I published this Video? Some people need to sleep as well.
@@GamingTech-UA-cam sleep? What this sleep thing you speak of!
I have this drinking game where every time you say "full stop" I drink. It was doable this time.
You are welcome??!! 🤔
Thanks for the Video … Can you please check the New Patch for CyberPunk 2077 on PC they Added HDR10+ !!
I am so excited for ur analysis in HDR10+
I will but I have to test it first
I have bought a S95C and It looks worse than my lg cx. I think oleds are so good that is more important your personal preferences.
The S95C is way better than my CX. Not like Day and Night but significant better. Have you checked your Picture Settings?
@@GamingTech-UA-cam Yes, I have put the settings from diferent famous forums and youtubers. Filmmaker is already a good setting. My S95C dont have the perfect contrast and the natural color of the cx. Blacks lifted, faces redish and oversatured, processing lacks finess and softness. Its like a Ferrari with bicicle wheels. And last firmware reduced my brightness. I dont like It.
@@carlosreeves2434 You must have a faulty TV. The S95C is in every way better than my CX. CX is very good with SDR content but HDR content the S95C just smokes my CX
@@GamingTech-UA-cam Maybe. Can you read the trustedreviews review of the 55 inch s95c ? Because he says the same I feel. It is inferior to all woled I hard. It has a picture if you scroll down were you can compare with a Sony oled and look what I say.
The specific issue aside, everything about a Samsung TV is crap quality. There is just no two ways about it. Nothing to do with image etc it is all about crappy materials, crappy QA, crapy software and so on. Ignore the warnings and be ready for a world of pain. I have the S95B and it's propably the sadest, biggest fail story of the history of TV making. Started from top notch picture quality and is degraded to 900 nits LG C series level quality. People are afraid to even enable wifi on their sets. Just have a look on owners threads if you think that people bashing Samsung are "reps"! Lol what a joke😂
Best solution is to buy a LG G3 😜 Samsung 🚮
I have a G2. G3 is just a minor update. S95C is the better TV imo
@@GamingTech-UA-cam MLA is a minor upgrade 😜 LG G3 runs circles around that Samsung trash 🚮 Have fun with the black screens and the connect box overheating and the lag of firmware updates and the pure trash support Samsung got 🚮
The rest of us on the LG sites are just enjoying our purchase to the fullest and know we will have support for years to come 😜
G 3 is weak, I'll take G 4
@@user-3zx739🤯
@@BA3YDADDYare you 13 years old? You sound like a teenage console fanboy. It's a TV dude, grow up
I am glad I went with the g3
@@user-3zx739 not at all, big difference in brightness and price
@@user-3zx739well then I will feel for you , cause g4 will be incremental upgrade over g3 , if I were you I would wait for 2025 .
Bottom line is , majority of this is just marketing. You need to wait 5 years to see drastic difference in tv quality. Also g3 is like 400 nits more than g2 and that’s significantly brighter yet on yearly basis what do you expect tvs to do? They can’t magically look apart . A95k and 95l , s95b and 95c , same applies to them. G2 to g3 is big enough upgrade for reviewers to call it brighter than s95c. I remember when 95b came, everyone was wowed by its brightness. But those same reviewers now call g3 the brightest oled. Whatever tv you buy on yearly basis, you won’t feel that different
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