Same, I just had a shitty guitar tutor that would just talk shit to me about me not knowing the fundamentals of playing and never progressed but thanks to this channel I'm not missing out , keep it up Alex we'll get there some day
Same, when I was younger I didn't have as much patience so I would just want to jump straight into techniques and learning songs I wanted, it was great but I was not able to improvise really or break out of routines. Took one beginner guitar/music theory class before and know some basic fundamentals but practicing learning the scale patterns and where you can play across the fretboard like this has been amazing in re-learning and getting fundamentals down to break out of practiced routine songs/riffs.
1. visualize the scale 2. get creative with the scale (try random things within the scale, make random chords) 3. see what you know in the scale (break down the chords you've learned/made, understand what they are) 4. practice lines that go between multiple patterns (try using the whole fret board) 5. get a looper and start playing around 6. practice practice practice!
I think after so many years of not understanding and/or caring, I've finally understood how scales and chords and everything kind of is connected... And now that I know what I can do with it, I'm actually motivated to learn them... Might sound really stupid, but thanks so much!
Me and my friend have been looking at math rock guitar and play lately cause we want to start writing music like this genre so this video rly helped for the beginning of our musical knowledge
I've been practicing for about 6 months and I definitely think I needed to hear this. I feel like this was the answer to give me the freedom to have fun learning and exploring. Thank you for sharing
Been learning these scales for school. Always found them tedious to learn but after watching this i feel so unbelievably stupid for just memorizing how to play and not how to use. Thanks for making this video and wish that someone taught me this sooner
Great video dude! I’ve learned a lot from your channel! Those 3 scale positions that you talked about here is what Rick Beato calls: behind the note, on the note & in front of the note!
Hi Trevor! Patron here. Do you have any plans to teach about overall composition techniques? I can write licks, chord progressions, etc, but when I try to write a song they feel like disjointed pieces and I struggle to connect them and have all those little flavorful moments and change ups from established patterns real songs have
Thanks for what you do! Can you recommend an entry level looper that is beginner-to-looping friendly, but does “enough” to be worth it and that I can grow with. Hope that makes sense!
I’ve been playin Guitar on and off since I was a kid but never really took is seriously and kinda got stuck in “pentatonic purgatory” so I’m finally trying to undo it and this is exactly what I was looking for. I knew I wanted scales that sounded “mathy” or “emo” and what do ya know a video about both, appreciate it 🙌
This is perfect! I'm a few months into picking up the guitar. I've been studying some music theory on the side but was unsure how to integrate it into actual playing. Looks like this will help. Still need to practice finger dexterity though because my fretting hand is still clumsy and can't move that quickly.
What makes those notes cool sounds? It's weird because my ear recognizes the ones which tickle my ear, just as you affirmed while teaching. I understand it is a combination of rhythm and other factors. I guess the question I have are there specific tones in each scale that are cool because of the position in relation to the scale? Such as being a 3rd or 5th?
Yeah it's unfortunate, I think most guitar teachers come from a different background / style that utilizes the scale differently. For this style, it's definitely all about creativity and composition.
The two genres often overlap but if you're really not getting as much "math" as you want you should probably try focusing on rhythm more. A very simple trick is just adding and removing beats, taking away or adding just a single quarter or eight note somewhere can immediately add a lot of rhythmic angularity to a riff without a lot of extra effort. You can even string together a few variations of the same riff, mixed meter will land you pretty firmly into math rock territory every time. But also, just play what you want to play without worrying about the labels. Maybe you just prefer post-rock and want to write more of that, that's totally cool. Post-rock is awesome too.
@tomyourmom emphasize the 4 chord more. Stay a bit more diatonic. Less 251's maybe incorporate for simple pop progression ideas then embellish it rhythmically and with extensions. Use your open strings more. Just some stuff to make it less jazz and more math rock. Possibly focus on specific chors voicings which show up in the bands you like.
Jesus Christ! The way you structure the information really vibes with me. Your approach is really what I was looking for. Thank you!
Thanks! Glad that you found it helpful!
If I'm ever writing music, it's thanks to you man. Started playing guitar without any scales/theory and now I'm playing catch up :/
Same, I just had a shitty guitar tutor that would just talk shit to me about me not knowing the fundamentals of playing and never progressed but thanks to this channel I'm not missing out , keep it up Alex we'll get there some day
same
Same, when I was younger I didn't have as much patience so I would just want to jump straight into techniques and learning songs I wanted, it was great but I was not able to improvise really or break out of routines. Took one beginner guitar/music theory class before and know some basic fundamentals but practicing learning the scale patterns and where you can play across the fretboard like this has been amazing in re-learning and getting fundamentals down to break out of practiced routine songs/riffs.
1. visualize the scale
2. get creative with the scale (try random things within the scale, make random chords)
3. see what you know in the scale (break down the chords you've learned/made, understand what they are)
4. practice lines that go between multiple patterns (try using the whole fret board)
5. get a looper and start playing around
6. practice practice practice!
Been trying to break out of the do-re-mi box for weeks and you’ve given me much to think about.
Happy to hear that! Good luck with the practice
I think after so many years of not understanding and/or caring, I've finally understood how scales and chords and everything kind of is connected...
And now that I know what I can do with it, I'm actually motivated to learn them... Might sound really stupid, but thanks so much!
This video opened up my guitar third eye. THANK YOU.
Youre the first person ive seen deliver the lesson in the same logic ive used. Sending this to anyone who askes me how to be jam ready.
Oh and fuck the pentatonic quicksand
This inspired me to get a loop pedal now. Awesome work and thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Me and my friend have been looking at math rock guitar and play lately cause we want to start writing music like this genre so this video rly helped for the beginning of our musical knowledge
Really vibing to the "Get a Looper" part.
I've been practicing for about 6 months and I definitely think I needed to hear this. I feel like this was the answer to give me the freedom to have fun learning and exploring. Thank you for sharing
This is such a perfect video
Thanks for this great lesson. This really helped me understand for what reason i learned the scales
Been learning these scales for school. Always found them tedious to learn but after watching this i feel so unbelievably stupid for just memorizing how to play and not how to use. Thanks for making this video and wish that someone taught me this sooner
Just wanted to say that I have really been enjoying your lessons Trevor. Thanks for the awesome content, brother.
Thank you for doing the lords work
I think this is the best vid on making scales practical I have ever seen.
Probably the best video I've seen explaining how to get into scales. Thanks a lot!!
18 minutes? I'm so in this!!
Haha yep, lots to say!
Great video dude! I’ve learned a lot from your channel! Those 3 scale positions that you talked about here is what Rick Beato calls: behind the note, on the note & in front of the note!
Hi Trevor! Patron here. Do you have any plans to teach about overall composition techniques? I can write licks, chord progressions, etc, but when I try to write a song they feel like disjointed pieces and I struggle to connect them and have all those little flavorful moments and change ups from established patterns real songs have
Thanks for what you do! Can you recommend an entry level looper that is beginner-to-looping friendly, but does “enough” to be worth it and that I can grow with. Hope that makes sense!
I’ve been playin Guitar on and off since I was a kid but never really took is seriously and kinda got stuck in “pentatonic purgatory” so I’m finally trying to undo it and this is exactly what I was looking for. I knew I wanted scales that sounded “mathy” or “emo” and what do ya know a video about both, appreciate it 🙌
Fantastic video
best teacher
Thank you Trevor! Everything you explain is very easy to asimilate and totally useful, you're great at teaching
Thanks, Mr Trevor
Very cool!
No problem! Glad you dig it!
that's some good and very practical advice. i dig it
Glad I could help!
Which scale are you using here?
so awesome your amazing
Love ur vids Brodie 🙌🏻🌴 thanks sm
Thanks!!
your a godsend
This is perfect! I'm a few months into picking up the guitar. I've been studying some music theory on the side but was unsure how to integrate it into actual playing. Looks like this will help. Still need to practice finger dexterity though because my fretting hand is still clumsy and can't move that quickly.
I feel personally attacked for the right reasons
Thank you!
🖖TREVOR WONG : GUITAR HERO🖖
What scale did you use?
Could you please break down some songs by "by the end of summer"🙏
I love them soo much! laughing ep is great
yes! buzz lightyear!!
"Even now" is so damn good!
@@rdanendra yeah! so is phony!
I want learn guitar and mathrock so bad but literally have no idea where start 😕
Great video
Instructional and beautiful at the same time
What makes those notes cool sounds? It's weird because my ear recognizes the ones which tickle my ear, just as you affirmed while teaching. I understand it is a combination of rhythm and other factors. I guess the question I have are there specific tones in each scale that are cool because of the position in relation to the scale? Such as being a 3rd or 5th?
Hey! I wish to ask do you do lessons? Id like to take some lessons to get some insight on my playing.
what scale were you playing?
No dislikes; is all things should be!
What scale did you use here?
Everytime i try to make math rock, it ends with progressive death metal
Aka Post-Hardcore.
I wish I was taught like this, I wasted so much time and money (also I really hope that 6/9 chord was on accident)
Yeah it's unfortunate, I think most guitar teachers come from a different background / style that utilizes the scale differently. For this style, it's definitely all about creativity and composition.
math rock bob ross
Everytime I try to make a math rock riff I end up with something more post rock
For me a big step was adding a little angst or spunk to what I play. I know that’s broad and open ended but I think it differs for person.
The two genres often overlap but if you're really not getting as much "math" as you want you should probably try focusing on rhythm more. A very simple trick is just adding and removing beats, taking away or adding just a single quarter or eight note somewhere can immediately add a lot of rhythmic angularity to a riff without a lot of extra effort. You can even string together a few variations of the same riff, mixed meter will land you pretty firmly into math rock territory every time.
But also, just play what you want to play without worrying about the labels. Maybe you just prefer post-rock and want to write more of that, that's totally cool. Post-rock is awesome too.
@tomyourmom emphasize the 4 chord more. Stay a bit more diatonic. Less 251's maybe incorporate for simple pop progression ideas then embellish it rhythmically and with extensions. Use your open strings more. Just some stuff to make it less jazz and more math rock. Possibly focus on specific chors voicings which show up in the bands you like.
"Its a 6/9 chord btw." I appreciate the need to be smart.
rip me
Amazing video