Here Is Why You Should NEVER Trade With The Boston Celtics
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- Welcome back everybody my name is Tucker and today is another video that was sparked by a comment down below... this time by Nathaniel Morris. This is something that I have thought about doing a video on even before this comment but it did bring it to my attention again, and that is basically that if you’re an NBA franchise and the Boston Celtics call you or you call them about making a trade, just don’t do it... hang up the phone, call somebody else, don’t make the deal... because you’re going to lose. To be clear this isn’t specific to the Danny Ainge era, the Celtics in general have traded well historically, and Ainge’s early years as GM definitely have some deals in there that you could question... but I am talking about just right now, in the era in which Ainge has been the GM of the team and Brad Stevens has been the coach as well... you should NEVER, and I mean never, trade with the Boston Celtics if you’re an NBA team. I went back and looked at every deal the franchise has made since these two joined forces in Boston, which is only a thing because of the wonderful people at basketball reference without which I probably couldn’t make this video so huge shoutout to them... and I have picked out 4 specific instances of major trades that show exactly why you should never trade with the Boston Celtics.
Trade 1: December 18, 2014: Traded Dwight Powell and Rajon Rondo to the Dallas Mavericks for Jae Crowder, Jameer Nelson, Brandan Wright, a 2016 1st round draft pick (Guerschon Yabusele was later selected) and a 2016 2nd round draft pick (Demetrius Jackson was later selected). (Boston also receives $13M trade exception.)
Trade 2: February 19, 2015: As part of a 3-team trade, the Boston Celtics traded Marcus Thornton and a 2016 1st round draft pick (Skal Labissiere was later selected) to the Phoenix Suns; the Boston Celtics traded Tayshaun Prince to the Detroit Pistons; the Detroit Pistons traded Gigi Datome and Jonas Jerebko to the Boston Celtics; and the Phoenix Suns traded Isaiah Thomas to the Boston Celtics. (PHO 2016 1st round pick received from BOS is CLE's pick and is top-10 protected.)
Trade 3: June 19, 2017: Traded a 2017 1st round draft pick (Markelle Fultz was later selected) to the Philadelphia 76ers for a 2017 1st round draft pick (Jayson Tatum was later selected) and a future 1st round draft pick. (Future 1st-Rd pick will either be LAL's 2018 pick if it falls between 2 & 5, or the better of PHI & SAC's 2019 picks, unless it is the #1 pick)
Trade 4: August 30, 2017: Traded Jae Crowder, Isaiah Thomas, Ante Zizic, a 2018 1st round draft pick (Collin Sexton was later selected) and a 2020 2nd round draft pick to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Kyrie Irving. (2020 2nd-rd pick from BOS to CLE is MIA's pick, and was added as compensation for Isaiah Thomas's injury)
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as a Celtics fan, trade with the celtics
Nah
GOAT 10 as another Celtics fan, trade with us
Nah
GOAT 10 as another Celtics fan, trade with us 😂
Nah
Why you should ALWAYS trade with the Charlotte Hornets
Or the nets
Or OKC
Every " bum " they trade has a breakout year.
Man it sucks to be a Hornets fan
Butter Johnson facts😂
@@kowloonempire1886 Don't remind me
They could trade their big four for Anthony Bennet and still win the trade.
Rondo Allen Pierce Garnett obviously
ezank46374545363830 probably kyrie Tatum, horford ,Hayward
I strongly believe that Bennett would have become a better player if Brad Stevens coached him
Stalker Bleach facts
@@francisrodeldegala3183 forget that, Bennett would've become a better player if he went anywhere other than Cleveland.
Celtics: We'll trade Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown for a 4 first round picks
5 Years later: Celts get the #1 pick every year and each pick wins MVP
Fuck that tatum the goat
We already did that, thats why we have Tatum and Brown. The future is now
Are You High
The Celtics WILL finesse you, so don't try it 😂
Fuck the Celtics
CollinSextonSZN I see you're a Cavs fan, I'm sorry
Willie Gordon that's what we are saying, don't trade with them because of Ainge
@@daniyalsabri9992 don't be salty
@@daniyalsabri9992 Celtics🍀☘
As a Boston fan I low-key feel bad for you Tuck as you're a Brooklyn fan
Troy Britton hands down billy king was better than Danny ainge 😂😂😂
@@anthonyz.9655 Billy King is the greatest Celtics GM of all time.
You’re a bandwagon
Boston is going to lose
I didnt know there was one
Boston legit are playing my gm on everyone
😂😂
It hasn't translate to success so not really
Friendly Reminder that the Boston Celtics were going to trade all of their future to the Hornets to draft Justice Winslow
We dodged a massive bullet
Fantastic point
They also asked Pat Riley and offered like seven picks overall for the pick that was Winslow
Tbh tho knowing Brad he would've made Justice into a 20ppg scorer and a defensive monster but that's is just what he does
Zvi J. Hare fr tho
Also, they traded Bill Russell for a Nobody. Balling since crawling
Actually the guy that they trade for draft right for Russel was a hall of famer, and his jersey number is retired by Boston. So that’s definitely not a nobody
LeBryant Howard Yeah, I’m sorry. I shouldn’t have said that. It was dumb. The only reason I said that was that Russell is remembered as a Top 10 player but Macauley isn’t. Again, not justified on my part.
Cries in Atlanta Hawks
Willie Gordon Are you unhinged? Who said I had a problem with Ainge, or even the Celtics? Yeah, he’s doing his job. I’m not so petty that I’ll hate an organization as a whole. I’m just a Utah fan trying to be moderately funny.
Jazz nation baby
This boy really rocking a ymca hoodie tho
Please consider doing a video on the cap situation regarding Golden State’s upcoming off season. I’m actually quite curious about whether or not there’s a way they can afford both Klay and KD. Not a Warriors fan, but just wondering.
I’ll add it to the list! Maybe it is just wishful thinking on my part, but I really think this Warriors core is going to be done in the next year or two. Cousins is gone this summer, KD might be as well, and maybe Draymond in 2020. Steph and Klay are staying though.
Sporting Logically I was just curious considering KD said he’s aiming for money this coming off season. It’d be awesome to see you do a video on this!
KD already got what he wanted now his objective has changed, so bye2 :)
Why you should always rob the Brooklyn Nets
Billy king*
😂😂😂😂
Nah Nets robbed Lakers for Dlo
Finally, someone who can pronounce Dragic correctly.
The title should be never trade with a team whose coach is as good at developing talent like Brad Stevens.
Never trade with the SPURS
Never trade with the RAPTORS
Never trade with the NUGGETS
Yes.
As a Boston fan I don't mind trades. The more the better for me
I mind it
@@daniyalsabri9992 yeah cuz you're team already trash
Ricky Gill bitch y’all stole Kyrie from us
CollinSextonSZN FINNESSED
CollinSextonSZN not really Cleveland didn’t have to make the trade but they did and it’s not a steal they didn’t steal him in the draft or free agency they treaded not a steal
They're smart only trade when you win the trade.
I'm from Alaska and woke up just to watch this video
Pepxii u need a blanket fam?
@@kenechi9083 nah I have plenty
Danny Ainge is gm 🐐
Heard of Red Auerbach?
Did you forget about the warriors gm lmao?
@@hugopalma9926 which one?
@@rondo9pgdw Bob Myers
Jerry west?
traded a washed garnett and pierce for the future of the celtics dam
Wtf dude we were just about to make a trade
Catalyst V7 bruh😂😂😂😂
So funny in retrospect. Winning every battle and losing the war.
You could have added the Avery Bradley and Marcus Morris trade in here as well. Boston created cap space to sign Hayward with this trade, and Bradley has never been the same, and has since been shipped around. Where Morris was a legit contributor to their post season run last year. And this year is probably top candidate for 6th man.
Danny Ainge is a finesser. 😂😂😂😂
Your videos are fantastic dude. I love that you don't act like a fuckwit, have stupid catch phrases like "it's ya boy", or constantly hound people to like and subscribe or leave a comment below. You are just a knowledgeable, friendly dude who keeps it real. Liked, subscribed, and commented below.
Thanks man!
That Celtics pick became Romeo Langford
Ger-shon Yaw-boo-selee
Im a celtics fan and I just now figured out myself 😂
Watching your films for few months. You make really good work and keep going that way :)
Greetings from Poland ;)
How in the world do you only have 32K Subs?!?!?! I feel like you should be at 300K+ because your video are incredible!
Thank you for saying that!
Great video Tucker, it's amazing to see how your content and confidence has grown from video to video. I never miss one!!
I figured that someone would eventually make a video on this
1. The trades to get Garnett and ray Allen was incredible, they sent a bunch of future roll players for two all stars. And 2. They sent rozier for kemba Walker. 3. The good thing about brad Stevens is when he gets a point guard, he makes them gifted by running their play styles through that point guard, however not with kemba as JT has thrived into a superstar, Brad Stevens puts his players into good roles making them more valuable, but not as good for other teams.
things people fail to recognize is the Celtics drafting and player development is real good too, not just trades. This is why in the past 14 years they’ve only missed the playoffs 1 time and it was during the beginning of a rebuild and was still competitive.
Celtics always had a strong front office smart when it comes to scouting and trading
accept that moron rick pitino
Thank you so much! I was about to trade with the Boston Celtics but thanks to this video I am now aware that trading with them would be a mistake.
To prevent mediocre teams that get dragged out..., you need to ensure that the players are either of similar age, or can be replaced, or are predicted to not regress quickly
Yeah those fools can't keep being this clutch 😂😂😂 and Stevens is a legit future Hall of Fame coach if he keeps this pace up dude just understands the game on a whole nother level
I think Crowder would have flourished in Dallas as well under Carlisle , but they just didn't see the flashes yet because his minutes per game were limited because Parsons and Aminu were ahead of him on the depth chart at the time
Wow. I knew that Boston made great trades but that they won their last 5 major trades by a lot is new to me.
What usually happens: Ainge trades for a decent role player who shines under Brad Stevens, and then gets traded years later when his value is way higher, but goes back to being a decent role player on his new team. This was close to the case for IT, Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder, and Kelly Olynyk. Players come in with no expectations, shine in Boston, then go to a new team and don’t show that same promise after leaving the Celtics.
Nice video man. I am a Celtics fan and a Boston resident- since SACtown looks like a middling franchise this year due to their improved record and play style- what do you think they Celts will do with that potential pick..? Use it or stock it away for the future in a pending deal..?
Yabusele is a great defensive player with a very high energy coming off the bench and a important part of our franchise
This is why I, personally, should not trade with the Celtics
Excellent point on Steven's ability to make players play to their full potential !!! It's just not fair when he has the ability to turn a frog into a prince.....and then once they decide to trade them away ...they turn back into a frog. So teams should gauge a player's ability prior to them becoming a celtic, and not after...perhaps...Ala Jay Crowder ...Yeahhh simply just avoid making deals with them like the plague lol...
Danny Ainge is the greatest GM in NBA history
U mean Jerry West?
Jemuel Gonza no,I think it’s spelled like Danny Ainge. Besides, Lebron is your best gm
Boy boy...these videos haven’t aged well at all. Not the UA-cam guys fault but Ainge and Stephens have come up short. Can you please make an update on this video???
Great vid. But you SHOULD trade with them if you get Brad Stevens then!
IT wasn’t only good because of brad he was great in sac so he was good without him, the only reason people say that was because last season he struggled to perform after coming back from injury so I disagree with you but it was a good video
Yeah but Celtics won the trade, which is the point.
IT was good it that All-NBA season because Stevens designed a scheme that would hide & cover for IT in defense.
Terry Lew you’re forgetting when he averaged 20 ppg in Sacramento he was good without brad
Declan Tominey but that was because Kings were trash and he could do pretty much anything. The game would be over very early and IT would play against the bench players. It was only in Celtics when he could score AND win. And also 20 points per game is significantly different from 29 points per game. One is good, the other is MVP level.
Declan Tominey 20 ppg on a bad team & 29 ppg on the East's top team is very different. Tyreke Evans avg 20-5-5 as a Kings rookie & get compared to Magic. Then what?
So, because Brad Stevens knows how to coach to get the most out of his player's talent and Danny Ainge can spot talent well, understanding the coach's strategy/gameplan... basically they actually do their job at the level you would expect at the most elite basketball league in the world. Do not trade with them.
That Avery Bradley-Marcus Morris trade is also very underrated
Me looking for the Celtics comment 👁👄👁
When is it going to pay off supposedly the best coach and gm
that 3rd trade is still a win considering what philly got for fultz in his trade to the magic, but lol kings didn't give them a top lottery pick, c's got the 14th. also that 4th trade isn't a win anymore. we could have had a young core of sexton, brown, tatum - all on the same timeline (within 2 years of age between each other) and all at least good starting calliber players. Would have allowed boston to go get a dominant centre to pair with a starting linuep of sexton - brown - hayward - tatum - centre that ainge pulls a trade off for, or even if ainge manages to keep horford.
Celtics lost the Kyrie trade, if they had any other Point Guard at that level during the 2018-19 season the C’s would’ve gone 66-16 and won the championship. And in 2018 if they had a healthy superstar point guard they could’ve made the finals
It's not camoflouge & inflated value, if the other coaches & management are good assessors of talent, and they know very well what type of players can perform well within their system, and i.e. if they are aware of they are focused in playing a certain system, rather than just rely on "names" & "stars" !!!
Crowder is doing well under Snyder in Utah as they figure out how to use him. Same as Evan Turner in Portland. IT remains to be seen but he's injured. Olynk is playing similarly & getting better in Miami. Bradley averages similarly in Detroit but after traded to Clippers he got injured. But he's playing under Rivers so hopefully he excels after recovery.
What do you think about jimmy trade rumors
I've been tweeting about it! If HOU really did offer 4 firsts, that is insane that they did that and that the Wolves haven't taken it yet. The last HOU pick would have to be 2025 (because they'd have to alternate) and they'd have limited protections because they can't convey to consecutive years.
What I read was the deal was Chriss, Knight, and 4 firsts... which can't happen until October 31st (when Chriss and Knight can be traded again). I'd imagine Butler will be moved the first week in November as a result.
Sporting Logically is it worth giving up that much picks just to have a better chance of winning a championship.
No. CP3 is already up there in age and who knows how good or bad the Rockets will be in 2023 or 2025. They still lose to a healthy GS team 9 out of 10 times even with Butler. Makes much more sense to go for the 2020 title (when this GS core could potentially be broken up).
d roseknees the crazy thing is that apparently there are people on internet saying rockets 4 fr picks ain't that valuable
Jimmy is a star in his prime
Smh
Thanongrit Suriyarungka I think the rockets are giving up too much for a better chance of winning a championship. They aren’t even guaranteed to win it all.
I miss AB :(
Do you think next off-season if the pelicans are desperate enough they accept this deal from boston
Jaylen brown al horford and the kings and grizzles pick next year
No
Why would the Celtics trade them to the Pelicans? If it’s for AD, I understand. But that’s too much to give up for AD
@@blueflamexl9880 its for ad and only the kings pick would be traded not the grizzles
No way in hell DA trades the Kings pick with Jaylen and Al.
@Naseer Williams Ik, but still. That's alot to give up for the celtics
When was the last time the celtics lost a trade? The Isaiah-Kyrie trade, while kyrie didn't work out, was still a great trade cuz IT did nothing for Cavs and the led Celtics were contenders for those two years and set up foundation for now.
Smart,brown,tatum
Brooklyn big 3
Cool video
I mean, his trainer is Sixringsofsteel, so that explains everything
Keep it up fam...always on point
Technically (with the talent we have) that may not be the case anymore (depending on how we use the assets
I still don't understand how Brad Stevens hasn't won COTY yet..
They’re trash this season
you can trade with the boston celtics as long as you know how to use the assets. the problem is most of the franchises who trade with them have issues as far as management and player development.
It is now 3 years into the careers of Tatum and Fultz, and guess what? Yes...the Celtics have clearly won the deal. Danny is absolutely brilliant.
I'm a Celtics fan and I agree with you which is why I hope GMs don't watch this video.
Looks like we aren't bad this year. Go kings
Oml hell yeah i see that nc state sign in the background. My fav colledge and u esrned a new subscriber.
Glad you enjoyed, and welcome! NCSU class of 2017
Why you should always trade with the NY Knicks
Gmac hehe nice old joke
Gmac the charlotte joke is funnier...
always trade with the Magic they managed to trade a all star and a upcoming star in less than 2 years.
No team has gotten fucked more in trades than the Knicks. We gave up a 1st for Andrea Bargani.
Well, is it that they trade well, or do they fare better with the pieces given to them. At least better than the other team?
Holy crap Bledsoe and n dragic doesn't look that much taller than Isiah thomas
As a Celtics fan it's not that you shouldn't trade with them it is just that Danny ainge is just very smart and makes good choices for our team besides the choice of Kyrie Irving
Do you think you will make an update video to the Jimmy Butler situation? Especially with the Rockets coming into the conversation
We getting Zion🍀
Well see
I have been saying this for YEARS!!!!
NBA teams always lose when trading with the Ainge run Celtics....
Dont do it!
It hurts that I am a 76ers fan...yup my team also got dupped by Ainge
You can pick 4 examples for every team if that is the case and make the same point. They had a bunch of aging "good" players that allowed them to trade for some picks, that's about it. It seems the Celtics get what they do exaggerated by everyone, example is Brad Stevens, supposedly a genius according to pundits but somehow the coaches that coach against him and have to deal with his "genius" day in and day out don't think so as he got no votes for Coach of the year.
Soon enough, other teams will copy Boston's system in terms of trades... When guys are getting expensive, they will let it go for a top pick and would train that pick to make another promising star, and then get expensive again, then trade for another top pick... The cycle will continue on a loop, that's why brad is he coach because aside from he's brilliance, he's so used to training new guys back on college.
*casually acts like we all are GM and owners of NBA teams*
Cavs actually won they still got a good rising star sexton while the Celtics they lost kyrie
Its not a joke
I believe it is the same for the jazz lately
Interesting, examples?
Yeah, i cant think of any trades where the Jazz fleeced anyone besides the trade for Gobert. Where they gave up cash to the nuggets to get gobert.
@@kohsmoger1567 they dont need a bricklayer like Mitchell. They have Jamal Murray and Gary Harris who are more efficient and fit their play style alongside Jokic.
Mitchell is the only one who can reliably create his own shot. Yes inefficient at times but if you need buckets he can do it.
While I agree that the BOSTON CELTICS have had success in many Drafts. There are other teams that have had success in the Drafts as well. Saying that you won't do a TRADE with another NBA TEAM for FEAR that you are GOING TO LOOSE shows lack of SCOUTING, and TEAM BUILDING on behalf other NBA TEAMS/GMs. The CELTICS have a simple formula of finding Talented players who fit their SYSTEM of TEAM DEVELOPMENT. Even with that formula its still the LUCK OF THE DRAW because you never know how players will TRANSITION in DIFFERENT TEAM SCENARIOS into THE LEAGUE. EVERY player will not play the same on EVERY TEAM and especially role players with unique skill sets.
as a celtics fan, i wanna keep getting finesses from other peope
Been saying that about Stevens since he was at butler
Not always, Ainge tried to trade 4 picks to trade up for justice Winslow... but the hornets declined the offer to select frank kaminsky
Mans didn’t know Yabusele the Thick boy
Guerschon A.K.A the dancing bear got cut by my celts earlier this season lol. He was something maybe, could’ve been a role player in a different era. Just a little too big and a little too short
That last point and the king's pick didn't age super well huh
Can someone explain to me about the kings trade? I`m confused
Tatum and Langford for fultz who ended up getting traded for johnathon Simmons who was traded for cash
Damn I was gonna trade with them this afternoon 😡😤
although the pistons did get blake griffin from the clippers from Bradley so I consider it a win win trade
People say anything to try and tarnish the Celtics. At this point it’s honestly ridiculous
Wouldn't say IT is any more an "All NBA caliber guard" than I would about Dragic... or calling Chris Gatling an "All Star".
Actually, I would always want to be discussing trades with Danny Ainge, but never make trades with the Celtics. Instead, I would hold on to the players he wants in the trade, believing there's a good chance they will be better than I thought.
Small chance since there is no Brad Steven in your team. Brad makes your average joe became super joe.
Why you should ALWAYS trade with the Brooklyn Nets.
But Crowder left Boston and they immediately trashed Nelson and Wright, and the two draft picks have proved nothing so far, so how did the Mavs get screwed here again?
Being the best at trading only gets them so far when they've drafted horribly the last 30 years.
You forgot the bradley Morris trade. For me it,s very important too, morris is playing at a high level
César Company Morris sucked. Ainge did too many short term trades out of the blue for Baynes & Morris that bit him hard🤦🏾♂️
Danny just gets players that would fit with Brads system and Brad gets the best out of them
Boston Dynasty ended when Ainge traded Perkins. It crippled the team.