Hey there, I 🤔 think I'd of re-bent those tabs, though I've been doing this longer I think.. Mending the rails, and extending those tabs shows how how far you have come, in metal working !!! On my 65, the measurements at both the front and the back of my floor support was approx 10 3/4" the floor support and the inner rocker itself... So you're spot on.. Bring on those torque boxes!!!! 👍 Carry on !!!!
Yeah I went back and forth on bending vs welding. If it were off the car and I could put it in the vice and gotten good angles on it, I might have bent it…but a great chance to practice welding where nobody is going to look instead of somewhere very visible! Good to know parallel sounds like the right option. It’s definitely where the frame rail wanted to rest. I don’t think i explained it well, but when I brought the floor support over to meet the cross member, it wasn’t just moving the frame rail, it was actually twisting it, which I definitely didn’t want!
Hi I just wanted to say in my opinion you are doing a great job! I have a 67 coupe that I bought 2 years ago. I should have inspected it better than what I did because I found more rust than what I thought I had. So I just finished up the floors, firewall, cowl. About a year ago I decided to do the coupe to fastback conversion. I’ve always wanted one but can’t really afford to buy one already done. I figured since I had it tore down and I’m not in a big hurry on it, that why not. I’ve never done anything like this before and it’s nice to see people out there in the same situation I am with no experience. Jo Daddy’s garage has been a huge help to me. Keep up the great work and you will be done before you know it. I know I can’t wait for that day. The feeling of accomplishment. Sorry for the long comment lol
Right on, thanks for the encouragement! Jo Daddy’s Jade series taught me more than anything else about doing all this, haha! I’d love to see how your FB conversion goes. I’ve seen some videos of them before, it’s a great way to get a FB, especially if you’d be doing the metal work anyway. I lucked out, I was able to pick mine up for a really good price ~10 yrs ago - granted at least the owner was up front about all the issues it had (that he knew about). Turns out that after I got a Marty report, it’s actually a GT, so that was a nice win. Definitely can’t find a reasonable price on a running FB today, even in rough shape!
Iam in the progress of putting floor supports also the rocker panels run at a slight angle .the hole main floor pan in the cars are not square. the front of the rocker facing the firewall it is 54 3/4 the back side by the rear torque box 55 1/2 On mine in the front side of the support i have about 10 15/16 to the bottom edge (not the top lip) on the back of it 11 1/16 .
Interesting. I was more going off of where the frame rail was sitting. I guess I didn’t say it, but in order to have the floor supported meet up with the cross member, I had to push pretty significantly, and it twisted the frame rail. So at least on my car (which has been hacked apart before), the support fit best parallel to the rocker
Great video. Going to be doing some similar work soon. Do you mind telling me where you placed the front jack stands? I’ll have engine in as well. Thanks
Thanks! Let me know how it goes. I used RV stands (also called stack jacks - available at big hardware stores and reasonable price). I like them because you can adjust the height precisely, and my floor isn’t perfectly flat. If it’s just the floor support it’s less critical, but if you’re cutting into the torque boxes or frame, definitely support everything! I had them at the front of the frame rails, under where the torque box and frame overlap, and the front and back of the rockers. I figured I wanted the rockers and frame to stay where they were because I ended up doing the firewall and cowl too, and everything stayed put.
Oh and if you’re thinking you will eventually pull the transmission, working on the floor supports is MUCH easier with it and the exhaust out of the way
@@evansmessygarage apologies. One more quick question. When doing floor supports specifically. Where the jack stands just more forward on frame rail. (I’ll put jack stacks on pinch welds as well) Basically on other side of firewall. Sorry for the paranoia. LOL
No worries, I’m all about the questions! I did it all one side at a time, and took way more out, so I was over-paranoid! On the side I wasn’t working, I did right under the floor support/frame rail/torque box joint, and the very front of the frame rail, rockers, and looking back I had the rear wheels on the ground (I changed this later as I got more into it). On the side I was working, I think I moved the one under the torque box to closer to the transmission. I figured you can never have too much support (but that was probably overkill)! I’m sorry I have a clip where I showed exactly where I put the stands, but I can’t find it. This one kinda shows a couple of them though: ua-cam.com/video/zcZOJhr9HnQ/v-deo.htmlsi=KHjhHddcZjPf9WIQ
No, but I will see what it is to spec next time I’m out there. With the floor supports, I basically put things back where they were. But there was the blobby welds at the transmission cross member, so it’s possibly non-original or warped. More investigation is in order once I drop the transmission out of there.
You never really know what a prior owner was thinking when making a repair, so there may have been some reshaping/shortening of the crossmember. I believe the parking brake bracket is attached to the drivers side forward floor support, but I don’t recall any extra hardware being mounted to the passenger side, so I doubt a 1/4” would cause any significant issues anyway.
Hey, I have a set of Jim Osborn manuals, they have one for weld/sealant. Here’s the link for it on CJPP, I think you can find a digital copy online maybe: www.cjponyparts.com/weld-sealant-assembly-manual-1967/p/BKAM19/
Hey there, I 🤔 think I'd of re-bent those tabs, though I've been doing this longer I think.. Mending the rails, and extending those tabs shows how how far you have come, in metal working !!! On my 65, the measurements at both the front and the back of my floor support was approx 10 3/4" the floor support and the inner rocker itself... So you're spot on..
Bring on those torque boxes!!!! 👍 Carry on !!!!
Yeah I went back and forth on bending vs welding. If it were off the car and I could put it in the vice and gotten good angles on it, I might have bent it…but a great chance to practice welding where nobody is going to look instead of somewhere very visible!
Good to know parallel sounds like the right option. It’s definitely where the frame rail wanted to rest. I don’t think i explained it well, but when I brought the floor support over to meet the cross member, it wasn’t just moving the frame rail, it was actually twisting it, which I definitely didn’t want!
I'm currently working in the same area. Cool to see someone else's work happening around the same time. Nice work!
Right on! Hopefully things go smoothly for you, let me know how it turns out!
Hi I just wanted to say in my opinion you are doing a great job! I have a 67 coupe that I bought 2 years ago. I should have inspected it better than what I did because I found more rust than what I thought I had. So I just finished up the floors, firewall, cowl. About a year ago I decided to do the coupe to fastback conversion. I’ve always wanted one but can’t really afford to buy one already done. I figured since I had it tore down and I’m not in a big hurry on it, that why not. I’ve never done anything like this before and it’s nice to see people out there in the same situation I am with no experience. Jo Daddy’s garage has been a huge help to me. Keep up the great work and you will be done before you know it. I know I can’t wait for that day. The feeling of accomplishment. Sorry for the long comment lol
Right on, thanks for the encouragement! Jo Daddy’s Jade series taught me more than anything else about doing all this, haha!
I’d love to see how your FB conversion goes. I’ve seen some videos of them before, it’s a great way to get a FB, especially if you’d be doing the metal work anyway.
I lucked out, I was able to pick mine up for a really good price ~10 yrs ago - granted at least the owner was up front about all the issues it had (that he knew about). Turns out that after I got a Marty report, it’s actually a GT, so that was a nice win. Definitely can’t find a reasonable price on a running FB today, even in rough shape!
"Our Little Secret" could be this car's name.
Haha! Full of secrets that one is!
Iam in the progress of putting floor supports also the rocker panels run at a slight angle .the hole main floor pan in the cars are not square. the front of the rocker facing the firewall it is 54 3/4 the back side by the rear torque box 55 1/2 On mine in the front side of the support i have about 10 15/16 to the bottom edge (not the top lip) on the back of it 11 1/16 .
Interesting. I was more going off of where the frame rail was sitting. I guess I didn’t say it, but in order to have the floor supported meet up with the cross member, I had to push pretty significantly, and it twisted the frame rail. So at least on my car (which has been hacked apart before), the support fit best parallel to the rocker
Great video. Going to be doing some similar work soon. Do you mind telling me where you placed the front jack stands? I’ll have engine in as well. Thanks
Thanks! Let me know how it goes. I used RV stands (also called stack jacks - available at big hardware stores and reasonable price). I like them because you can adjust the height precisely, and my floor isn’t perfectly flat. If it’s just the floor support it’s less critical, but if you’re cutting into the torque boxes or frame, definitely support everything! I had them at the front of the frame rails, under where the torque box and frame overlap, and the front and back of the rockers. I figured I wanted the rockers and frame to stay where they were because I ended up doing the firewall and cowl too, and everything stayed put.
Oh and if you’re thinking you will eventually pull the transmission, working on the floor supports is MUCH easier with it and the exhaust out of the way
@@evansmessygarage thanks!
@@evansmessygarage apologies. One more quick question. When doing floor supports specifically. Where the jack stands just more forward on frame rail. (I’ll put jack stacks on pinch welds as well) Basically on other side of firewall. Sorry for the paranoia. LOL
No worries, I’m all about the questions! I did it all one side at a time, and took way more out, so I was over-paranoid! On the side I wasn’t working, I did right under the floor support/frame rail/torque box joint, and the very front of the frame rail, rockers, and looking back I had the rear wheels on the ground (I changed this later as I got more into it). On the side I was working, I think I moved the one under the torque box to closer to the transmission. I figured you can never have too much support (but that was probably overkill)! I’m sorry I have a clip where I showed exactly where I put the stands, but I can’t find it. This one kinda shows a couple of them though:
ua-cam.com/video/zcZOJhr9HnQ/v-deo.htmlsi=KHjhHddcZjPf9WIQ
Did you take a measurement between the locating holes on the right and left forward floor supports? Just curious if it was 1/4” too long as well.
No, but I will see what it is to spec next time I’m out there. With the floor supports, I basically put things back where they were. But there was the blobby welds at the transmission cross member, so it’s possibly non-original or warped. More investigation is in order once I drop the transmission out of there.
You never really know what a prior owner was thinking when making a repair, so there may have been some reshaping/shortening of the crossmember. I believe the parking brake bracket is attached to the drivers side forward floor support, but I don’t recall any extra hardware being mounted to the passenger side, so I doubt a 1/4” would cause any significant issues anyway.
What Manual are you using in the video for spot weld locations?
Hey, I have a set of Jim Osborn manuals, they have one for weld/sealant. Here’s the link for it on CJPP, I think you can find a digital copy online maybe:
www.cjponyparts.com/weld-sealant-assembly-manual-1967/p/BKAM19/
Does the Jim Osborn book contain the measurements?
Not the distances from the key points on the car, but it has some. I was able to find the frame and other measurements pretty easily online through