BTS WINGS era symbolism, explained: Short Films #1-7 (PART 2 of 2)

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • The BTS Wings album is full of references to literature and art. Using imagery from Demian by Herman Hesse, BTS explores the loss of innocence, and ties these themes to the characters in their existing fictional universe. Here is a guide to some of the most important symbolism. (Continued from part 1: • BTS WINGS era symbolis... )

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  • @sugaspice5151
    @sugaspice5151  6 років тому +282

    *To interpret the dream-like WINGS short films, you need to know both the BTS fictional universe, and the story of Demian.* Please see my previous videos for a summary of each:
    - Wings, part 1: BST & Demian: ua-cam.com/video/3NuxHwXcAZw/v-deo.html
    - BTS fictional universe: ua-cam.com/video/n4o70iBIDNs/v-deo.html
    As user TheHerezy pointed out in my last video, you will also find that the order of the song titles (Begin, Lie, Stigma, First Love, Reflection, Mama, Awake) correspond to the order of events in DEMIAN.
    *Things I left out* :
    - Each film was also associated with a *logo* for each member, which merged with the logo of that member's WINGS pairing
    - Each film also had quotes from BTS songs, in addition to the Demian quotes
    - I only pointed out the lyrics to "Stigma" here, but you will find that the *lyrics* for every song is thematically linked to the overall story, in addition to being personally relevant to BTS as real people.

    • @krisalcaraz7881
      @krisalcaraz7881 6 років тому

      Y los subtítulos en español??please

    • @amirahcarty7572
      @amirahcarty7572 6 років тому +3

      SUGA & spice could you do some more for the more recent ones you do an excellent job .

    • @rosebyanyothername2464
      @rosebyanyothername2464 6 років тому +8

      SUGA & spice You obviously worked hard on this and I appreciate that a lot. Very informative I loved it. Watched all of them that you made. I wouldn’t say I’m BTS obsessed or would consider myself true ARMY but I really admire their creativity And love their music and the messages that they have in them. It’s not something you see a lot these days so that’s really were attracted Them to me in the first place. The music is good and catchy a rhythmic but the message overall is what I look for in any song and they’re amazing at that. They are very talented artists

    • @josephineklein8514
      @josephineklein8514 5 років тому +2

      Can I just say, your vids r sooo well put together. Thanks to you I understand most of it.

    • @entropy5157
      @entropy5157 5 років тому +1

      I personally don't think the lyrics of Begin , or First love or even MAMA mean anything in relation to the storyline...

  • @sugaspice5151
    @sugaspice5151  6 років тому +319

    Damn it, I knew it was a mistake to cut out the Snickers part for Hobi. Should have listened to the part of me that was like “What if it’s not just product placement?”

    • @karlachappo5397
      @karlachappo5397 6 років тому +4

      SUGA & spice so what is it with the snickers??? Lol

    • @liljunii3910
      @liljunii3910 6 років тому +37

      chappo K the snickers represent the day his mother abandoned him.

    • @cloudedcamera2089
      @cloudedcamera2089 6 років тому +28

      The snickers were the only thing his mother left him that day.

    • @smileyz1054
      @smileyz1054 3 роки тому

      I'm so impressed by your interpretation. Chapeau !

  • @sugaspice5151
    @sugaspice5151  6 років тому +246

    Since BTS actually leaves their stories fairly open-ended, I also leave many things open-ended in this video as well. Hope you enjoyed this series on digging deeper into the BTS music videos! As always, feel free to leave your own thoughts & interpretations below.

    • @baudolino2727
      @baudolino2727 4 роки тому

      I really appreciate your explanation videos, you're doing a great job. Thanks a lot!

    • @Nirai_luv_Kpop
      @Nirai_luv_Kpop 2 роки тому

      💜

  • @aminalisann
    @aminalisann 6 років тому +68

    Hey, A.R.M.Y.s! Jungkook has said in his latest Vlive that the painting is a portrait of SUGA!

  • @alexandraadams3569
    @alexandraadams3569 6 років тому +155

    There's so much and my heart is going so fast. Honestly I had no idea that this all went so deep, my mind has been blown. I respect you so much for putting so much time into this series. I loved BTS before, but this has made it so much more intense. I appreciate them in more ways and I'm in even more awe than before somehow. Thank you.

  • @danielle_8780
    @danielle_8780 5 років тому +32

    I think the burning of the six flower petals that represent each member and the youth they longed to keep is how jin can travel through different dimensions. My theory is that Jin has to let go to move on to a different reality. So he let go of his friends (awake), he let go of his youth (youth series), and he let go of his innocence (BST). Idk this is just my theory in a world of theories lol.

  • @mrdude506
    @mrdude506 6 років тому +34

    I see it now, Namjoon holds all the secrets to the whole story, he being the member with the least story available.

  • @star-po4kc
    @star-po4kc 6 років тому +17

    In Love Yourself series, Jin also protects a flower in a cage (?). He opens the window to see Yoongi's apartment burning, with his unconcious body being dragged and saved by Jungkook. It confuses me how he blankly stares at the scene, as if he's tired of jumping between universes and repeating the same self-destructioning fate.

  • @ishitagandhi6118
    @ishitagandhi6118 6 років тому +124

    So here’s my problem now; who is Demian?
    People are saying that it’s Yoongi but I’m over here thinking it’s TaeTae

    • @user-iz1wh5ot4g
      @user-iz1wh5ot4g 6 років тому +6

      Ishita Gandhi same

    • @harley_queen4619
      @harley_queen4619 6 років тому +8

      Demian is Tae

    • @raeignevindric6574
      @raeignevindric6574 6 років тому +22

      Same I think Sinclair was Jin since it was first introduced? Then Damian will be Taehyung cause its like the end and the starts are with them...

    • @briarrosevd5554
      @briarrosevd5554 6 років тому +9

      I feel like it's Yoongi Tae or Jin...

    • @josephineklein8514
      @josephineklein8514 5 років тому +5

      I think tae is demian, but I also think he's the other guy, sin something i odnt remember his name.

  • @yaboispacemcgee4999
    @yaboispacemcgee4999 6 років тому +27

    i personally think jin changes timelines, not realities. in epiphany, we can see multiple of him around the room from different points in the video. also, when he stepped outside the room, it was raining and he got soaked; perhaps representing all the troubles him and his friends have gone through. he turns back time to get rid of the rain (troubles), but he’s still soaked, symbolizing that no matter what he does, tragedy remains.

  • @Milkbread14
    @Milkbread14 3 роки тому +5

    Me explaining the entire HYYH Era and Wings Era in detail to my sister is like explaining trigonometry to a dog.

  • @malayamangin8041
    @malayamangin8041 6 років тому +158

    i think that the painting look like V

    • @wehavedifferentclothes2903
      @wehavedifferentclothes2903 5 років тому +3

      Yes same.

    • @hgbanthem6025
      @hgbanthem6025 4 роки тому +15

      I think - just a theory though- that that painting was supposed to be a mix of all of their faces, and jungkook is seeing all the terrifying things happening to each member and is confused and scared, thats why he said hyung, and not suga hyung, or any specific member.
      I have not read the book demain, (am going to do it) but I do believe that it's related, not completely though, it is related but the story line is very much different, I don't think each person represents a specific character in it, for example, and things like that.

    • @boongloww
      @boongloww 4 роки тому +8

      The painting is a mix of Jungkook and Suga

    • @-girlpower-5214
      @-girlpower-5214 4 роки тому +3

      Malaya Mangin me too

    • @starryydayydreams_
      @starryydayydreams_ 4 роки тому +2

      Same

  • @lovelyy6491
    @lovelyy6491 6 років тому +6

    whether Jin's just dreaming or in delusion... still i'd like to think it's indeed about alternate universes, it gives this anime type of storyline which i simply love

  • @scarlet3price317
    @scarlet3price317 5 років тому +1

    In all this time...I've never explored the storyline in depth, nor read the books-until now...I "love" seeing it from "now" to its very beginning! 💜💜💜

  • @Umbrela11
    @Umbrela11 6 років тому +12

    Wow i'm shocked that you don't have that many views ^^
    I love your videos :D

  • @roselyng975
    @roselyng975 5 років тому +2

    They are brilliant brilliant. This is why they are where they are💜 If you combine the webtoon and this information everything is going to be 10x more clearly!

  • @giulia5803
    @giulia5803 4 роки тому +3

    Pleeaaase help, i'm sooooo confuuusedddd. I don't understand what was going on and i have to say that i'm new here, i mean two weeks ago i started watching some videos, listening to some music (i'm especially obsessed with YoonMin) and NOW I'M INTO THIS !!!!
    Help
    -I'm writing the same comment in more videos hoping that someday someone would answer to me -

  • @emelycruz4552
    @emelycruz4552 5 років тому +2

    This is incredible, I had never paid attention to the connections. They all tell a story. I must read that book, the intricacies of such dreamworld are fantastic and the boys represented them beautifully.
    Thank you for breaking down the details, now I know I have to pay more attention to what it represents and not just the visuals.
    I have always believed they were saying something important, I just never read between the lines.

  • @VycenSilver
    @VycenSilver 6 років тому +26

    @15:27, it says “LIES” at the right side of the door.

    • @AnLe-gb5uv
      @AnLe-gb5uv 5 років тому

      Danielle Lobendino I don’t see it... where is it?

    • @kweenlively7913
      @kweenlively7913 5 років тому +1

      Danielle Lobendino I feel like I kinda see it. Tild your screen and you’ll see it

    • @jlmoreno2447
      @jlmoreno2447 5 років тому

      yes i see it too

    • @reveuse9049
      @reveuse9049 3 роки тому

      because it's the same door Jimin opened and sees his another self?

    • @zloizveruga6339
      @zloizveruga6339 Рік тому

      Внатуре. А чё а как и че с этим делать аааааааа

  • @peachzen
    @peachzen 4 роки тому +1

    okay.. you totally blowed my mind..
    now I want to know more. please make more videos about the newer ones maybe theres also a link to black swan and on... and maybe also to fake love??
    gamsahamnida

  • @pandacreates4406
    @pandacreates4406 6 років тому +9

    Thank you! I always appreciate your unique perspective!

  • @timabetter
    @timabetter 6 років тому +5

    I KNEW THE APPLE REPRESENTED THE SYMBOL IN WING
    by the way this video is so good 😊 I would never think this far

  • @who_are_you668
    @who_are_you668 4 роки тому +1

    Waw your videos were amazing, especially about wings theories💜💜💜
    All of bts theories from hyyh until now make me confused, but your video help me to understand it, yeah, it's a long way to go😅
    But seriously, your video and the notes really help me, especially about demian and all of those symbols
    Now with the smeraldo book is active again, i hope their storyline will continue and finally they can have their happy ending🙃

  • @star-po4kc
    @star-po4kc 6 років тому +9

    The wings album is also connected to Fake Love and the magic shop -in which they trade fears for...(?)- I would also love to know more about that so I ask your genius mind (because mine can't xD) to uncover more?

  • @jinniedahamster2323
    @jinniedahamster2323 6 років тому +2

    15:05 u can also c rm's writing on the mirror. basically jin's reviewing all the mistakes and stuff the 6 boys have done and trying to turn back to the time when they were dtill innocent and happy

  • @curvytangerine
    @curvytangerine 6 років тому +2

    thank you so much for making these. beautiful analyses.

  • @lliinakaro
    @lliinakaro 5 років тому +1

    guys, did you notice that in first love mv, yoongi hears a whistle and in dna mv jungkook is the one who whistles?

  • @TheHerezy
    @TheHerezy 6 років тому +19

    Wait, what! Jungkook's painting and drawing are supposed to look like Suga (to me they don't, but)? So I'm not completely off mark with my theory that Suga is Demian????

  • @joselineflores8726
    @joselineflores8726 5 років тому

    On webtoons they made a comic about bts called "Save me" It is about Jin trying to save his six friends. I think it is based upon the wings timeline

  • @daisylovesbooks1
    @daisylovesbooks1 3 роки тому +1

    super interesting, thank you for this

  • @kookiesbabybird
    @kookiesbabybird 5 років тому

    It's one in the morning for me as I type this and my mind is completely fucking blown away. Who knew that Wings had such a deeper meaning, and it's all making sense now. It's like I need to create a board with all of these theories just to keep myself sane

  • @fatimashaikh768
    @fatimashaikh768 6 років тому

    💥💥🔥🔥my mind is blown
    Like dam night has such complicated minds working there. I give a big hand to them for thinking this up 👏👏👏👏

  • @linxto2518
    @linxto2518 5 років тому

    When ppl are saying Yoongi or Tae are Demian, I don't think that this is the case. I think that all of the members are their own version of Sinclair and Demian or the pairings are each others version of Demian/ Sinclair. In every WINGS short film, there is a quote from Demian, possibly implying that Demain could potentially just be a voice or guiding spirit. Although it is up to Jin to save them, they also need to save themselves in a way and listen to Demian, their guiding spirit. Just a theory, tho lol

  • @salonichavan1629
    @salonichavan1629 5 років тому

    There are special notes for LY Her, Tear and Answer. That is their official story. The lyrics and that notes and the events in videos make a full story and explanation.

  • @vitoria3493
    @vitoria3493 3 роки тому

    cara eu acho GENIAL o conceito da era wings

  • @anitajaman777
    @anitajaman777 5 років тому

    i really love ur video explanation. its more easy to understand and logic

  • @nouryani1778
    @nouryani1778 5 років тому

    ❤BTS❤ I SEOUL U FOREVER... LET'S FIGHTING TOGETHER UNTIL AGE THE WORLD IS OVER...
    💜💜❤❤🐧🐻❤❤💜💜

  • @eurietakahashi589
    @eurietakahashi589 5 років тому +1

    Why does bts mv's is freaking me out always most of it has a dark meaning and im scared of that 😩

  • @adorabledork89
    @adorabledork89 5 років тому

    Wow...i think the WINGS era, was so complex, thanks for sharing! Haha~

  • @yamsfriesandtsukisdinoo
    @yamsfriesandtsukisdinoo 6 років тому +5

    *I KNEW THAT WAS YOONGI PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT IS TAE*

  • @josephineklein8514
    @josephineklein8514 5 років тому

    I'm so shook. Mind blown. WOW

  • @taekookiebangtanshippers2415
    @taekookiebangtanshippers2415 4 роки тому

    Well this helps me alot to understand better of what was happening 🤗🤗

  • @katelyn4179
    @katelyn4179 6 років тому +1

    So wait, all the stuff in your character introduction video did happen, but all this second/double meaning stuff with Demian, although extremely interesting is making me even more confused.
    Did Jungkook and Suga die? How do their new character pairs line up with the story or meaning? How does each individual character history/story tie in with Demian? Was Jin actually saving (or at least trying) his friends? I do absolutely love the video, but I'm a bit lost. There were some scenes in this video that were repeated from your character introduction video and the implication (or at least that's what I got) that they could have two different, separate meaning is totally screwing with my mind right now. Can anyone explain or clear this up for me?

    • @Mooonito
      @Mooonito 6 років тому

      Literally same here.Im so beyond confuse. I think the best option Its just to start from the beginning then watch other different theories and explanations of the videos pay attention to details and come to your own conclusions because there are so many theories and all of them kinda make sense and it is hard to explain so as i said start from the beginning . Good luck fellow army.
      this can help
      - Prologue
      - I Need U
      - Run
      - I Need U (Japanese version)
      - Run (Japanese version)
      - Epilogue: Young Forever
      - Wings short films #1-7
      - Blood Sweat Tears
      - Blood Sweat Tears (Japanese version)
      - Spring Day
      - LOVE YOURSELF Highlight trailers
      - Serendipity
      - DNA

  • @smileyz1054
    @smileyz1054 3 роки тому

    I think I'm at the right place to tell you about the painting: JK says in his vlive on the 6th of September 2018 at 41:50 that it is Suga!

  • @cristinajimenez3239
    @cristinajimenez3239 5 років тому +1

    My theory is that everything is in Jin’s mind and he’s the only one with a mental illness, maybe he doesn’t even know the others and just imagines that all of that happened and he wanted to fix it so he tried to but every time he failed and he’s just slowly being consumed by his illness

  • @carissajones9409
    @carissajones9409 5 років тому +1

    I know this was made a long time ago, but I'd like to ask, if anyone ever stumbles upon this comment, since begin was confirmed to be mostly about V, and the painting looks kind of like taehyung, who was a large part of the wings album since he quite literally had wings, do you think this changes anything about this part of the theory, or do you think it doesn't have any affect on it?

    • @shayd4553
      @shayd4553 4 роки тому

      I know this comment is so late compared to when you posted, but I think it matters based on given context; sure Jungkook may have written that song with V in mind, but given how it is used within the narrative of the "story" it means something totally different (yet also similar), while the intentions for writing the song and how it's used with the plot are different, they may still cross over each other. Also, it's probably good to note that Big Hit, or whoever has this whole plot-line sorted out, very well may give the members an outline for what their song should mean and what points and details it should include so that it fits the story.

  • @momalchauhdary730
    @momalchauhdary730 4 роки тому

    You know what you are a genius you don't belong to UA-cam you belong in film industry love you ahh I don't have word form you what should I do now god plz help me

  • @BereCampbell
    @BereCampbell 5 років тому

    Will you post about Love Yourself era??

  • @lovelyjoon1201
    @lovelyjoon1201 3 роки тому +1

    i can make a whole fckin video on why wings is the best album released.

  • @aienytab3834
    @aienytab3834 4 роки тому

    while watching the awake part the sky outside my house had clouds that were shaped like a portal and a black crow started flying past.... i'm scared

  • @dancestar2249
    @dancestar2249 6 років тому

    I know you did this video a while ago, but at 2:49 a fellow ARMY pointed this out that Jimin's shadow is different to how he was sitting in reality.

  • @saraortiz5681
    @saraortiz5681 5 років тому +1

    I have watch bts videos ur vidoes but I don't get anything still I don't know if its maybe because I didn't read the book(so what im thinking is that bts and bighit there like religouse?or that they like the novel? im sorry im new army and also one more question, why do they do this?

  • @jlmoreno2447
    @jlmoreno2447 5 років тому

    16:06 did you see the painting in jungkook's begin and also the picture of hoseok's mother in mama?

  • @فاقددمعة
    @فاقددمعة 6 років тому +1

    انيو I LOVE YOU BTS I LOVE YOU JUNG kook oppa♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥استمري حبيبتى سوف ادعمك سرانغهي ملقبةre

  • @immortaljodi
    @immortaljodi 6 років тому

    What is the video from the beginning before Begin starts called

  • @evanster5373
    @evanster5373 6 років тому +1

    Please tell me who is Demian and who is Sinclair

    • @jungshooketh3846
      @jungshooketh3846 6 років тому

      Sayonee Suman
      I think Sinclair is the main character which he lost his innocence to the darkness. And Demian is the inner spirit in him who brought him to the darkness so, I think Demian is probably the devil.

    • @evanster5373
      @evanster5373 6 років тому

      Jung Shooketh can you tell me who had played Demian's and Sinclair's character

    • @jungshooketh3846
      @jungshooketh3846 6 років тому

      Sayonee Suman. It was probably Jin who played Sinclair, and the rest of the members were playing the part where Sinclair was growing up, and going through the troubles of his life or just playing diffrent characters. And V was playing Demian i think...im still a bit confused and tryin to take it all in so...yeah. This is just my prediction. The Wings era is extremely deep and ties and combines with other theories of the previous bts albums, so its a lot to take in.

  • @rrinacoffeeshop9967
    @rrinacoffeeshop9967 5 років тому

    how about the whistle?

  • @neilalafontan3479
    @neilalafontan3479 5 років тому

    Y'aurais t'il un rapport avec leur nouvelle chanson dyonisus ou mikrocosmos

  • @shan_alriel
    @shan_alriel 6 років тому

    Can I ask, what about the time places in these stories line. Like Jhope (mama) it was showing 13:00 bc there shining light maybe? Then in euphoria in jimin's time with his friends in the hospital it was showing 10:30 in the morning bc it the windows showed that the light of the sun will raise up. So, is this just that Jin controlling time or showing another alternate universe?

    • @tookyos6212
      @tookyos6212 6 років тому

      X방탄X happysmiles i think jin went back and changed everything

  • @melimelodz3901
    @melimelodz3901 4 роки тому

    🤜🤛❤❤❤❤🤜🤛❤❤❤❤🤜🤛❤❤❤❤❤ggoddddd tthhaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnkkkkkkkk yoouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

  • @maddie8260
    @maddie8260 4 роки тому

    I honestly think the painting looks like Taehyung that's what I have always thought

  • @Bagassu777
    @Bagassu777 6 років тому

    im the only who thinks why they don't let Jin with that golden eye makeup seen in his eye close up ???

  • @thiaranoelle6853
    @thiaranoelle6853 4 роки тому

    *im never eating apples again*

  • @クルズクリスニッキー
    @クルズクリスニッキー 5 років тому

    ye taetae looking at his extremely big hands

  • @AnLe-gb5uv
    @AnLe-gb5uv 5 років тому

    15:06 pause there. There’s some writing... I don’t know what it means... but if anyone knows what it means then let me know.

    • @jellybean5225
      @jellybean5225 5 років тому

      살어남아야하나 it means we must remain alive. It’s same thing that namjoon wrote on the bathroom mirror

  • @mangthomas8768
    @mangthomas8768 6 років тому

    so based on demian yoongi is the pianist??

  • @franisthebest1234
    @franisthebest1234 3 роки тому +1

    maybe im just dumb but im still confused lmao

  • @domik3114
    @domik3114 5 років тому

    I NEED answers, did YoonGis mom really died? wasnt it just rumour? They said his mom lives and all of his family members and live happy life, or quite happy life.. :/

  • @ashdkgmvididms7341
    @ashdkgmvididms7341 6 років тому +1

    Are these TRUE STORIES? I’m confused😵 HELP

    • @Mooonito
      @Mooonito 6 років тому

      noo they are just acting but their characters sure have some qualities and little things that resembles themselves in the videos. I recomend you to start from the beginning do some research and u will understand more. thats what im doing in this video xD

  • @andioop-2879
    @andioop-2879 6 років тому

    Three words: I am confused

  • @katiemae7732
    @katiemae7732 6 років тому

    What is HYYH??

    • @harley_queen4619
      @harley_queen4619 6 років тому +1

      One album of album , this name is HYYH, the other name is "The Most beautiful Moment in Life" who correspond at Dope era. If you are new for better understand go listen their old songs and albums because all is connected since the debut, it is a storyline called "Reflection of Youth" .
      Now I put all their album (maybe in order or not because sincerely I have a little forget )
      2013- 2skool4Cool, Skool Luv Affair,
      2014-Red Bullet , O!UR2L, Dark and Wild,
      2015-HYYH(The most beautiful moment in life pt1 et 2), Young Foverer,
      2016-Wings, Love Yourself Her (debut)
      2017-2018:Love Yourself Her, Tear, Answer
      2019-2021: Next album or era for close the storyline "Reflection of Youth" according to my theory maybe the next album will call 'Speak Yourself".
      So In conclusion , BTS has created a universe called BU(Bangtan Universe)who has begun since 2013 until now.
      I hope that I help you

    • @katiemae7732
      @katiemae7732 6 років тому

      @@harley_queen4619 thank you so much!

    • @harley_queen4619
      @harley_queen4619 6 років тому +1

      @@katiemae7732 You're welcome. No worries. I feel you , being fan of BTS during Love Yourself Era is not easy for understand their storyline and all. But don't worry and watch also the MV Japanese , they are also details for more understand all that.
      I admit that Big Hit is evil , my head will explode with theory. Hope that Big Hit at the end of "Reflection of Youth" Big Hit will released a movie or a book for that🙏
      Good Luck 🙌

  • @TheHerezy
    @TheHerezy 6 років тому +495

    My unpopular opinion: I don't believe in all the alternate universe thing. I think all members (except Suga who's Demian, but Demian IS a part of Sinclair) are just Sinclair at different stage of his journey, with Jin being the final step, and each others being past selves / personality aspects that exist within Jin. Jin isn't trying to save his friends, he's trying to heal/repair all of these parts of himself, making peace with all his rebellious angry lost deliquent insecure young past selves. Basically, growing up. From my interpretation, they're all "fixed" in Euphoria.
    Also, after the trippy part in Jin's mv, I noticed we get "fixed" references to all the previous mvs, in reverse order:
    6. JIn awakes, unlike J-Hope who's always stucked in a dream state (references Sinclair at the hospital, right before he transforms)
    5. Jin touches his reflection and unlike RM's it ripples but does not shatter in a million sharp pieces (which is a pretty good metaphor for mellowing out as you age)
    4. Jin's piano in his room is intact, unlike Suga's
    3. Jin's "prison" (there are scratch marks on the doors, and they represent V in the polaroids) simply opens and lets him out when he wants to walk out, unlike V's
    2. Jin's apple is whole, unlike Jimin's
    1. Jin has the final complete painting of the bird, taking flight. And he's... content?

    • @ndshop9406
      @ndshop9406 6 років тому +62

      TheHerezy omg.. That is really make a sense.. They are actually one person but represent the stages of going adult... Omg..

    • @analero1457
      @analero1457 6 років тому +36

      this is so cool and an unique fresh point of view from everything!

    • @angie1619
      @angie1619 6 років тому +21

      I thought the same but didn’t go this in-depth. This is amazing !

    • @stalking_people4183
      @stalking_people4183 6 років тому +8

      TheHerezy wow, that's unsettling but so good!?

    • @lovelyy6491
      @lovelyy6491 6 років тому +29

      taking into consideration that all the other members have a pair it's like representations of Jin's past when he used to try and love somebody else before loving himself and that's why so many things went wrong

  • @jlmoreno2447
    @jlmoreno2447 5 років тому

    16:06 did you see the painting in jungkook's begin and also the picture of hoseok's mother in mama?

  • @proudazn9980
    @proudazn9980 6 років тому +100

    I noticed that in the coreography of Blood Sweat & Tears, they do that "chin, back of the head, close Eyes"-thing, but in the refrain of Fake Love they are just doingg it backwards, which means that they probably are enlightened now. Sorry for that bad language.

  • @tamaradominique9177
    @tamaradominique9177 6 років тому +84

    I was waiting for this!! Watching this series specifically not only awes me because of your interpreting skills, but also because of BTS (most likely Bighit as well) and how much detail and thought they put into their concepts. Like yeah, everything is pleasing aesthetically, but every single detail is meticulously tied to something larger, grander. The detail that most surprised me was the wallpaper being of Abraxas in Jin's short film. Wallpaper is meaningful too! Just...wow.
    Thanks for the second installment! I look forward to your take of the Love Yourself Highlight Reel ! (But no pressure)

  • @bangtanpink4074
    @bangtanpink4074 6 років тому +115

    For everyone who is tripping
    Yoongi - Pistorius (if i spelled it right)
    Tae - Sinclair
    Jin - Abraxas
    Jimin - Yoongi’s slave
    Jungkook - Namjoon’s victim of the green drink
    Namjoon - Evil person that makes peeps drink a hallucinating drink (green drink) and jungkook takes the candle wax resembles the sun melting his wings
    Hoseok - Trying to face light and darkness like which will he pick
    BloodSweatTears
    Stigma
    Lie
    Boy meets Evil
    first love
    has everything connected with light and dark or between The Dark archway and light archway which is seen in b s t
    Ok im suffering from this keyboard BYE
    Edit: Jungkook is Icarus

    • @moaarmy6616
      @moaarmy6616 4 роки тому +1

      why namjoon looks like a bad guy😔

  • @sadie6556
    @sadie6556 6 років тому +120

    Yoonkook
    Heres my theory--
    Yoongi and Jungkook are together and things are going great in the beginning due to the guys being immature, little kids that still have their innocence. Then Yoongi starts playing with the lighter due to the fire his mom died in, could it be that he was deciding to commit suicide by setting his house on fire? Jungkook, being his manz, blew the fire out, symbolizing that he will be there for Yoongi through hardships till the end. Then Yoongi begins to think; he doesnt want to have any meaning to someone, hes worthless, he doesnt want to hurt the people he holds dearly to his heart, and he himself, doesnt want to get hurt as well. So, in run, ge tries to push away Jungkook while he is drunk. Jungkook wouldnt leave him because he is all he has left, but ultimately failed in saving Yoongi. He goes off on his own, he was neglected by his family and now that Yoongi is gone hes overwhelmed by sadness and believes hes worthless due to losing the last person that cares about him. Yoongi, then realizes he made a mistake. In I NEED U, Jungkooks flannel is hanging on the coat rack on the wall. Yoongi is alone in his bed looking to his side, missing Jungkook and regretting his actions. Jungkook purposely bumps into thugs only to get beat up, but he laughs as they do it. After his beating, he remembers the good memories of the days when the guys were together. Jungkook then, gets into a car accident and is in the hospital. Yoongi blames himself for what happened and breaks into a music store to play the piano. He attempts to play Begin by Jungkook but, forgets. During this time he hears Jungkooks whistle to the song. He goes to investigate, hoping he will find Jungkook. It led him the street where the accident happened, while he was there, a car rushes past him, barely missing Yoongi. In FAKE LOVE, Yoongi sets his room on fire, does this represent him committing suicide? Does this also mean that Jungkook wasnt there to save him, to blow out the fire? Then in Jungkooks Wings Short Video, theres a painting that is rumored to be a merged painting of Kookie and Yoongi. The painting suddenly starts dripping colored paint, does this mean the death of Yoongi? Because as it drips, Jungkook shouts "HYUNG!" or is it that he needs him?
    thats a lot so ill stop for now lol. should i make a video on this? i dont have a laptop but imovie should work aha. thanks if you read this all, i appreciate ittt. oh! and other opinions are always accepted :)

    • @Mooonito
      @Mooonito 6 років тому +3

      This is so interesting u should definitely make a video about this and go more in depth about the other characters plots i love to hear what your theories are. It has been years and there are still so many questions about this saga. If you decide to make a video pls let my now by replying to this comment.

    • @aminalisann
      @aminalisann 6 років тому +5

      I know it's very late, but I just wanted to say this:
      1. Wow. Your theory is pretty good and I highly agree with it. You really should make a video.
      2. I think the blood we see on the street in the "First Love" shortfilm is Jungkook's. It's not actually there, but it represents that Yoongi feels responsible for the accident Jungkook got into.
      (Other theories are that it might have something to do with Jin's girlfriend, or Yoongi himself or his dead mother. But I'm convinced that it's Jungkook's.)
      3. The painting is a portrait of YOONGI.
      Jungkook has said that in his latest Vlive, so it's confirmed.
      4. (This is just my very own opinion, of course you may disagree with it)
      I think that Yoongi and Jungkook are a couple in this fictional universe.

    • @tabathajackson366
      @tabathajackson366 5 років тому +2

      Im so late on this but wow my mind is blown&i got goosebumps....Im still tryna figure out theories,story lines behind their songs,etc.. Being an fan its like picking up another subject in school or another job lol.Anyways,i luv ppl's theories but yours got me.I hopefully u did make mv if so where can i read them

    • @tabathajackson366
      @tabathajackson366 5 років тому

      @@felicienf2807 Wow i think ur 100% right! Damn ur good lol! U need to make videos like this bec i think ur spot on. Thanks luv💜

    • @xiutae95
      @xiutae95 4 роки тому +1

      Thanks for your theory coz I think I am kinda dumb to figure it out 😖

  • @misscruz9382
    @misscruz9382 5 років тому +14

    Hi SUGA & Spice! I just wanted to let you know that your video on the WINGS era symbolism (part 1 & 2) were a huge help to create my paper on how to use BTS as a educational tool. I am a university student and I am coordinating a BTS festival in my University and one of the activities are 10 minute presentations about BTS. I decided to make mine about how BTS encourages literacy and how to use their work as a learning tool for our students (I am studying to be a teacher). Don't worry I gave you the credit in terms of the era and book analysis. I was very happy to see your video, it was very in depth and well supported. I just randomly wanted to let you know and thank you for your help.

    • @sugaspice5151
      @sugaspice5151  5 років тому +5

      That's amazing! Really appreciate your comment, it made my day!

  • @siroun7395
    @siroun7395 6 років тому +20

    This is probably a weird question but like what do you study/what did you study because every time you make a video I'm so interested in it and idk it seems like maybe you study something like film idk x

  • @gabrielajimenez7408
    @gabrielajimenez7408 6 років тому +41

    I'm always thinking wheter is this is all about alternate universes or just Jin fighting his own problems, honestly. I believe you can see it in both ways. Even if there are alternate universes, Jin is still trying to fix his problems. *(why does this have to be so confusing)*

  • @alishortcake6522
    @alishortcake6522 6 років тому +22

    Love your videos would really like to see a video analysing wonder:euphoria and seeing where it sits into the story and how it all links much love these vids must take a long time 💖

  • @leilimelzavala1183
    @leilimelzavala1183 6 років тому +23

    yayayayayayay, been waiting for this 2nd part :') thank you ♥

  • @gh4939
    @gh4939 3 роки тому +3

    Idk just jotting this down before I forget, but what if Jin was replaying the past to fix things, but realized that he has to accept what happened and the mistakes that they made, and move on? I just finished Demian (finally lol), and the whole point of the story was for Sinclair to realize and accept himself to eventually accept his fate no matter how difficult it was. This relates to one quote from Demian that he writes under the painting that looks like himself and Demian, “Fate and character are different names for the same idea.” Jin wants to change who he is or the other members so he can change their fate, but the truth is that they can’t change who they are, but that have to accept the parts that they hate about themselves/can’t live with and break out of the egg (their perception of the world) to finally reach the state of Abraxas (accepting good and bad, accepting who they are, and accepting their fate).
    This relates as well to HYYH era of the destruction of youth as we walk into the real world. When we’re young, we idealize the world, what we should and shouldn’t be, but slowly realize that we’re finding ourselves in less than ideal situations, being less than ideal people. I’ve always connected the ‘world of light’ as the superego (where society and rules are ‘good’ and ‘moral’, we live strictly and ideally), and the world of dark as the ‘id’ (dark, primal, impulsive)- and ‘YOUTH’ was breaking out of the superego and wrestling with the id to find ourselves. Even in the book, Sinclair says, “We make gods, wrestle with them, and have them bless us,” (And gods in this aren’t necessarily divine, we can equate them with demons as under Abraxas they’re all kind of the same).
    I think it’s really cool how BTS’s team decided to take Demian and rehash so many ideas and direct it more specifically to think about youth and nostalgia. Honestly, I think they were one of the first ones in kpop at the time to really address this issue towards teens? HYYH and WINGS era have always been so amazing to me, and I kinda miss those days lol. Thank you for these 2 videos! I can’t keep up with all the small symbolism throughout this era so having it explained all in one place helps lol

  • @lilypop2110
    @lilypop2110 6 років тому +9

    shook is my new name

  • @quantuamlovers8587
    @quantuamlovers8587 3 роки тому +3

    Basically at last six friends mean six personalities in jin sometimes evil sometimes good. He has to accept everything in him and continue his journey.... 🤗🤗🤗 My analysis

  • @aurelia160
    @aurelia160 5 років тому +6

    I feel like Jin is Sinclair at his final stage, when he has reached enlightenment and has accepted that the must move on from his childhood and everything that was holding him back from embracing his fate.
    Although the content after Wings era seems to contradict that

  • @TheHerezy
    @TheHerezy 6 років тому +12

    I thought the whistling was a reference to Kromer?
    Sorry, I'm flooding your feed.

  • @teo2135
    @teo2135 5 років тому +4

    I've watched several videos about BTS theories and, although I loved them, I was quite confused. Now I just finished reading Demian and I immediately searched for videos who could clarify everything about the book's references in Wings, hoping to understand more. And well, your videos are just what I was looking for! Thank you for all the dedication you put into these! I would really appreciate if you analysed also the last MVs that Bighit dropped, like Euphoria (I imagine I'm not the only one who would like this). I mean, of course it's just a suggestion, you don't have to feel pressured about this in any way, it's just that you're very good at explaining theories. Thank you again

  • @misun9293
    @misun9293 5 років тому +3

    15:45 Those are white lily petals, they represent innocence, Jin is either burning his past self, or his innocence.

  • @sophiabep
    @sophiabep 6 років тому +8

    really awesome!! thanks for doing that! you will do anything about highlight reel or euphoria?

  • @paleteas6296
    @paleteas6296 6 років тому +2

    Thank you so much for making these videos!!! Without these videos I would never be able to understand anything that happens in BTS's videos, cuz I'm stupid haha, but the way you explain everything is so easy to follow and understand! I can't wait for more videos from you!! (Maybe about Spring Day and Euphoria?? I know there's also a shitton of symbolism and plot points in the Spring Day music video but I'm just too lazy and dumb to figure it out haha) Anyway keep up the good work I love your channel!!! :D

  • @sanikaghag_p0551
    @sanikaghag_p0551 4 роки тому +2

    It's really appreciable all the facts put forth in this theory and you've really done a good job
    It really moved me when I went through these theories, it's like viewing a totally another part of the theme what I was actually aware of
    It really gave me a new perspective
    I really hope that u keep up with such work and new theories are put up ahead

  • @marsisnotcreative
    @marsisnotcreative 5 років тому +3

    im new to the fandom and all this got me SHOOK

  • @sorb95
    @sorb95 6 років тому +8

    Hi! your videos are amazing!!! I have watched all of them, great job!!
    but I just noticed that at minute 15:05 in the mirror there is something written, can anyone translate it? Does anyone know what it means?

    • @sarra9466
      @sarra9466 6 років тому +2

      karzu123 it means 'We must survive' that's what i think!

    • @manimercury7960
      @manimercury7960 6 років тому +3

      Yeah i saw somewhere else that it said we must survive. It's most likely a reference to what namjoon wrote on the mirror as a note to his friends

    • @sorb95
      @sorb95 6 років тому +1

      thank you for your answer!

  • @alesonu
    @alesonu 4 роки тому +2

    This is hands down the most complicated ablum I had ever explored! Damn!! I am so mind boggled that I need some time to digest the entire storyline 😳😳

  • @anonymouschannel2161
    @anonymouschannel2161 6 років тому +4

    My brain died

  • @lindsayangelinee7153
    @lindsayangelinee7153 5 років тому +2

    14:08 YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE “EVA” SPELLED OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CIRCLE OMFG 😱

  • @blackpinkismydrug6426
    @blackpinkismydrug6426 3 роки тому +2

    My brain cells-💀

  • @thakkukukku9208
    @thakkukukku9208 3 роки тому +2

    Kim taehyung King 👑

  • @lilypudd
    @lilypudd 2 роки тому +1

    Wow....so many details. This is super fascinating.