Amen, Brother Winslett! The chief end of man is NOT to save himself or anybody else. The chief end of man is to do good works and glorify God. One of the (many) reasons that God the Son came down to live, bleed, suffer, die, and live again for us was so that we would STOP fussing over our eternal salvation and the eternal salvation of others, and just get on with doing those good works.
Thank you for this. I think you make many good points on this issue and I look forward to the complete docu. You say at 10:40 “if Im an unregenerate I don’t care a thing about the Gospel, its foolishness to me.” Probably making your point with that form 1 Cor 2:14. And although we can clearly see and understand that in some sense, but isn’t there also the danger of some sort of mental assent and/or intellectual grasping the words & meaning of the Gospel message? To such an extend that it is not literally foolishness and ppl can be informed and in some sense even touched or temporarily “moved” by it and assent to the words, but are not changed by them through the work of the Holy Spirit? Like Paul f.e. says to the ppl in 1 Thess 1 :5. So something more then only words and assent is needed and it will become evident in one’s life when that happened (vs 8 & 9). Isn’t that a biblical standard for examining (first and foremost ourselves of course), but also in our (pastoral) conversations on the matter? So foolishness in the spiritual & lasting sense is absolutely true & clear, from Scripture. But does not the Bible have multiple warnings and teachings about that which seems to be real, but is not the real thing? And examples/standards of which it testify as being the true & saving work of God? Clearly indicating that it is possible for ppl that the (Gospel) message is seemingly not foolishness for them, but they’re also not saved (yet). I do not suggest that the solution is what some of the (lordship)men in de video clip do, but simply asserting that people need assurance in such a situation seems a little unfounded on the other side.
Amen, Brother Winslett! The chief end of man is NOT to save himself or anybody else. The chief end of man is to do good works and glorify God. One of the (many) reasons that God the Son came down to live, bleed, suffer, die, and live again for us was so that we would STOP fussing over our eternal salvation and the eternal salvation of others, and just get on with doing those good works.
Thank you for this.
I think you make many good points on this issue and I look forward to the complete docu.
You say at 10:40 “if Im an unregenerate I don’t care a thing about the Gospel, its foolishness to me.” Probably making your point with that form 1 Cor 2:14. And although we can clearly see and understand that in some sense, but isn’t there also the danger of some sort of mental assent and/or intellectual grasping the words & meaning of the Gospel message? To such an extend that it is not literally foolishness and ppl can be informed and in some sense even touched or temporarily “moved” by it and assent to the words, but are not changed by them through the work of the Holy Spirit?
Like Paul f.e. says to the ppl in 1 Thess 1 :5.
So something more then only words and assent is needed and it will become evident in one’s life when that happened (vs 8 & 9). Isn’t that a biblical standard for examining (first and foremost ourselves of course), but also in our (pastoral) conversations on the matter?
So foolishness in the spiritual & lasting sense is absolutely true & clear, from Scripture. But does not the Bible have multiple warnings and teachings about that which seems to be real, but is not the real thing? And examples/standards of which it testify as being the true & saving work of God? Clearly indicating that it is possible for ppl that the (Gospel) message is seemingly not foolishness for them, but they’re also not saved (yet).
I do not suggest that the solution is what some of the (lordship)men in de video clip do, but simply asserting that people need assurance in such a situation seems a little unfounded on the other side.