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  • I do make mistakes and I really try to only speak about what I know.
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  • @michaelsorrentino9279
    @michaelsorrentino9279 Місяць тому +154

    Capt. you do not owe an apology to these clueless people.!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +3

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

    • @thepowersofone2570
      @thepowersofone2570 Місяць тому +1

      Nope! They were SMART AND KNOWLEDGEABLE THAN YOU BY AMILE!😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

    • @michaelsorrentino9279
      @michaelsorrentino9279 Місяць тому +2

      @@thepowersofone2570 I think you need to go back to English class and learn how to construct a complete sentence.

  • @ejharrop1416
    @ejharrop1416 Місяць тому +175

    A reality of YT. You were 100% clear you are talking about what you know and staying in your lane. I appreciate your risk taking and the keyboard warriors should chill and accept what you say as your opinion. Too much anger in this world. Thank you for what you do.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +7

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

    • @Skidderoperator
      @Skidderoperator Місяць тому +1

      WHAT IS CUOTO?

    • @1966pahandyman
      @1966pahandyman Місяць тому

      C U On The Outbound @@Skidderoperator

    • @scottp.5161
      @scottp.5161 Місяць тому

      Thank you for the explanation@@1966pahandyman

    • @shaunolinger964
      @shaunolinger964 Місяць тому +5

      ​​@@Skidderoperator
      CUOTO
      See You One The One
      The One refers to passing on a "one whistle"... portside to portside.

  • @arkiefyler
    @arkiefyler Місяць тому +104

    It is easier to fool people
    than to convince them
    that they have been fooled.
    -Mark Twain

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +2

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

    • @michaelrice500
      @michaelrice500 Місяць тому +1

      Hear, hear! Bravo!

  • @bob1505
    @bob1505 Місяць тому +68

    Tim, I have always appreciated the honesty of a person that is willing to say "I Don't know.". Don't let the crazies get you down.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @allensanders5535
    @allensanders5535 Місяць тому +73

    Sal mentioned you in 1 of his video as the go to person on all things tugs keep up the good work you are the man.👍👍

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

    • @matthewbeasley7765
      @matthewbeasley7765 Місяць тому +4

      I'm just waiting for Chief Makoi to weigh in. I expect he won't say anything until the reports are in on why power was lost.

  • @1wwtom
    @1wwtom Місяць тому +41

    I retired at the end of 2022 after working 50 years at every terminal in the Port of Baltimore. In the mid 70's when the bridge was built ships were nowhere near the size they are now. When car ships came in they were still bulk carriers and used the ships cranes to lift each car placing them dockside to be driven away now they are all RoRo vessels. Ships with containers were mostly combo RoRo ships inside with topside loaded with containers. Pure container ships of this size weren't even dreamed of back then. For 50 years, how many ships have come and gone with no problems? It must be many Thousands maybe a Million!

    • @kirk1618
      @kirk1618 Місяць тому +7

      Great view! Problem is so many UA-cam experts. They can easily be seen by all of the hindsight they present. I have been around the sea my whole life, never could I have imagined ships have become the size they have, freight and passenger. It’s amazing that ports have been able to provide the infrastructure to support these operations. Seeing the speed that industry moves and the speed the government moves, I find it hard to believe we are where we are. Thank you for your experience.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      ❤️Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

    • @user-co7fb6qe5w
      @user-co7fb6qe5w Місяць тому +2

      I commend the shipping industry. Build a bigger better ship=more profit. Build an even bigger much ettwr ship = even more profits. The problem has been safety guidelines have NOT kept pace with ship builders. Whenever you put profit ahead of common sense mandatory safety guidelines you are an accident waiting to happen. Will it cost more to ship if I'm required to have sufficient tugboat escorts and other safety measures? Sure. That is the cost. Look at the cost of life's lost and a catastrophic bridge collapse. Now what is the cost just to rebuild/replace the Key bridge? You can't replace the lives lost. This was all preventable. Whether it was human error or lack of mandatory safety guidelines. This tragedy was preventable. I'll bet not one person or entity will step forward and accept responsibility. The most we are going to get is the arrogant finger pointing and blameshaming. The final ( politically correct) response after the conclusinary investigative report is released will be " after a thorough review our team of experts have concluded this tragic event was unavoidable because the sun, moon, stars weather all came together as the perfect storm. We are deeply saddened and express our deep condolences to those families who have lost a loved one. Our prayers and thought are forever in our thoughts and the memories of those lost will never be forgotten. That's it. Insurance will pay out a piddly amount and the American taxpayers will of course absorb all debt and guilt for thinking this could no SHOULD of been avoided.

  • @raymondpena3790
    @raymondpena3790 Місяць тому +14

    As an ex US Coast Guardsman; I appreciate your videos and your service. Your company should be proud for what you do for the maritime community.You do a fine job Captain! Full stop.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @Terk131
    @Terk131 Місяць тому +54

    Don’t beat yourself up over this. Your videos were great and you are honest. I know nothing about tug boat operations but as a power plant operator I can talk about power plants and the grid. Safe Travels. Happy Easter.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

    • @timsmothers8740
      @timsmothers8740 Місяць тому +2

      The Grid, and that is another Field of work that is short of skilled or qualified workers to keep it maintained. A shortage of Airline pilots is also present and only getting worse along with many other Fields requiring Skilled workers.

    • @brianbiggs3484
      @brianbiggs3484 Місяць тому +1

      👍👍🇨🇦✌️🇨🇦✌️🇨🇦👍✌️

    • @Terk131
      @Terk131 Місяць тому

      @@timsmothers8740 Absolutely.

  • @docfromwyoming2449
    @docfromwyoming2449 Місяць тому +20

    Former engineer and deckhand in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico here. You’re doing a fine job Cap’n. 👍🏻

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @markosborne4875
    @markosborne4875 Місяць тому +63

    Hi Tim. I skippered a small tug on Puget Sound for many years. My favorite expression "it's a fluid environment"

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @Spidey1015
    @Spidey1015 Місяць тому +13

    Inland towboat pilot here (MS river and Gulf ICW), keep up the great work Capt! Totally agree about the wildly unhinged comments of some people all over the internet, their version of reality makes you shake your head.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you Cap! Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @jackiewessel7195
    @jackiewessel7195 Місяць тому +22

    You were so clear that you were talking from your perspective. My husband and I are long time viewers and from you got introduced to Dr. Sal, another wonderful experience. We have a dear friend who was a Shipyard mechanic on tugs and we can understand his stories better now. Thank you! Ignore the crazies! Keep up the videos! Brings a fun light to our week. From the Great Lakes!!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      ❤️Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @mattguldjord1357
    @mattguldjord1357 Місяць тому +26

    I'm sorry people have given you a hard time in the comments. I see you as a good guy who's an experienced mariner and an expert in his wheelhouse, (lol), which is running a tug doing things I've never done in waters I've never seen. I really enjoy watching what you do and listening to your commentary. A lot of people have unreasonable expectations. Thanks for doing what you do! CUOTO!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      ❤️Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @JohnDrummondVA
    @JohnDrummondVA Місяць тому +18

    Keep doin what yer doin, Captain! Hang in there. Sal is, indeed, the man!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      💯Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @jerryburdick8051
    @jerryburdick8051 Місяць тому +8

    You are such a gentleman. Thank you for your great videos!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @truckerallikatuk
    @truckerallikatuk Місяць тому +9

    The Dali was in the channel, had power and way when the tugs left her. You can't expect the tugs to know the ship's power plant would take a poop at a critical moment. They weren't required to stay with her, nor paid to do so. And nothing like that had happened before... As always, regulations always come after things go wrong.
    Quick edit: Adding lots of tugs to the issue will only lead to accidents with tugs.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

    • @johng.gunning4913
      @johng.gunning4913 Місяць тому +2

      The pilots ordered the tugs release - they attend the ship as directed

  • @jasonnorman581
    @jasonnorman581 Місяць тому +12

    Tim. Keep it up. Please don’t let the trolls in the BS. Stop you from doing the excellent job that you’re doing creating content in an industry that is absolutely important.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @joiegates3623
    @joiegates3623 Місяць тому +7

    Love your videos ! Big heavy ship going 8.5 knots with propulsion issues and only 4 minutes to figure out how to solve the problem ? Everyone on board and on shore did the best the could in the time on hand. Stay Blessed Mr. Tim ~ Appreciate you !

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @kenaston4220
    @kenaston4220 Місяць тому +7

    This is in no way a criticism, just information.
    Here in Felixstowe, UK, they routinely use tugs with about a 70 ton bollard pull, to offer assistance to full size container ships, when they take a bend out of the harbour, they ride on the stern of the ship. The ship is travelling at a speed where they can steer by themselves.
    Keep up the good work Tim and don't get bogged down by negative comments.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @antonioleone6123
    @antonioleone6123 Місяць тому +13

    Good morning Captain, it's true that unexpected events happen to everyone, but what sets us apart is how we choose to respond to them. I've noticed that people often have a lot of questions and curiosity when an accident occurs, especially when it comes to maritime terms and definitions that might not be familiar to everyone. However, we must let the experts do their job and conduct a thorough investigation, even if it takes some time. In the end, their careful analysis will provide the answers we need to understand what happened and prevent similar incidents in the future. You are a great person and a very good captain, for sure!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @unclvinny
    @unclvinny Місяць тому +7

    I really hope I’m never exposed to the idiocy of the internet the way you have been in the last few days. Hang in there, friend! I appreciate your humble, open-minded approach.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @stevesimpson1447
    @stevesimpson1447 Місяць тому +13

    Tim. You do a great job. I have been watching you for a long time. Don’t worry about the craziness of some of the people. Please keep up the good work. I spent the last 45 years in the maritime trades and so far have avoided giving my opinions to my friends about the incident. There is just too much that they would never understand and the conversions are just not worth it. I, like you, am very comfortable with my knowledge base and see no advantage in explaining all the details.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      💯!! Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @scoobicon
    @scoobicon Місяць тому +2

    Thank you for sharing your opinion. As someone not in the industry, I appreciate the opinion of someone who is to help squelch the noise of armchair experts just adding to the confusion.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @Don-sx5xv
    @Don-sx5xv Місяць тому +7

    Brother you are a Tug boat operator, I am an engineer, you speak from experience I do not. A very difficult task here on Social Media is separating the wheat from the chaff. To those that find fault with your reporting, shame on them. The gage by which I operate is " From the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. What we receive from you is a nice truthful heart filled message. Which is refreshing in regards to what is being regurgitated lately. I only care to speak to those who care to speak to me...none else matters.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @CaptRD
    @CaptRD Місяць тому +5

    Somebody has posted a number of videos of ships being maneuvered in the manner you described a tug on the bow and a tug on the stern. These videos are of the New River in Ft. Lauderdale. The river is challenging and some of the turns are very tight just because there are a lot of vessels tied up along the length of the river, which makes it an even tighter area to navigate. The proportional difference in size between the tugs and the ships doesn't appear to be anywhere near the difference that there would have been with the ship that hit the bridge in Baltimore.
    I still find that your comments provide a logical and practical reason behind what happened in Baltimore. When this tragedy happened you were the first person I thought of that could give us lay-people an insight into what happened and why.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      I have posted a few of my friend's company, Cape Ann Towing in the New River. But the ratio of tug to ship is much much different when you are talking about a 100k ton ship.
      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @carlstanoyevic3070
    @carlstanoyevic3070 Місяць тому +2

    You give good insight I’m a truck driver can tell you about it not tugs however they are very cool and amazing. I do have common sense and the night the Key bridge was hit there was a strong wind to the south . The Dali was like a big sailboat when it lost power just like an empty set of double trailers. I’ve been on the key bridge with a set doubles when the wind blows there ,nothing too block the wind . Those pilots did the best they could ! Let’s all thank the good lord they had the calm within their minds to get out the mayday things could have been worse.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @bobgutgsell1009
    @bobgutgsell1009 Місяць тому +4

    Hi Tim and All, Great openness and no one has all the answers. Yes the stern steering by tugs is used and very often in the San Francisco Bay. It depended what kind of ship and where they are going. NOT all ship receive this service, Most often it is on bulk or bunker carriers going up river or into the very tight Oakland Inner Harbor but they are definitely used here in the bay area. The tugs pick up the ships after the Pilot gets on board six miles out (Stern Tugs pick them up about a mile and 1/2 out) as they approach the Golden Gate and stay with them until docking. Again, SOME not all ships use this service. MOST container ship do NOT, until the go into the Oakland inner harbor. The tugs are for steering ONLY not stopping.
    Nice work keep it up.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @terrym5889
    @terrym5889 Місяць тому +11

    I think I trust your knowledge on Tug boats and what they're capable of, being that you've been doing it for decades, just like I have 45 years in trucking and heavy equipment operating, we never know it all, but are one up on people who've never been in a Tug or a semi or run a crane, but have just run their mouth! see you on the one Captain!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

    • @dougaltolan3017
      @dougaltolan3017 Місяць тому

      Aha! You gave it away! I've been looking for "CUOTO"
      👍

  • @shannonmcneish4633
    @shannonmcneish4633 Місяць тому +3

    Hey just remember Tesla said, “ I have not failed I’ve just found 10,000 ways that won’t work.” That dude was hyper aware of his mistakes and he fathered modern electricity. Keep it up Tim.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @aeiro5390
    @aeiro5390 Місяць тому +7

    You were clear/correct about your explanation that energy required to stop a ship goes up with the square of the velocity, but the right equation, in case you were curious, is that the kinetic energy of a non-rotating mass (like a ship) is 1/2*mass*(velocity^2) relative to a stationary object (like a bridge). It's the derivative of the F=ma equation which describes the force required to accelerate (or decelerate) an object, which is what the tugboat would have needed to do. Either way, a lot of energy and a lot of force would have been needed in a very short amount of time after a problem was recognized. I'm not a tugboat expert, though I do incident management/post-incident follow up as a career in a different industry, so I'm really look forward to a thorough accident analysis. Even if a tug could have averted this disaster, it's likely there were many other factors involved in the swiss cheese model that would have prevented this disaster long before a tug could have gotten involved, and I'm sure those findings will be far more practical to implement at scale.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

    • @jeffreylane2967
      @jeffreylane2967 Місяць тому +2

      I am a mathematical idiot,but other than your formula, I basically understood what you said.😅

  • @samaipata4756
    @samaipata4756 Місяць тому +4

    You are so refreshing honest! Being able to judge your own abilities and their limits, is the very essential decision making capability a responsible Captain needs to have! Calling yourself "just a tugboat captain" is such a humble understatement, telling me all I need to know if I would be a Captain of a huge containership. That's the tugboat I want, to safely guide my ship in or out of the harbour!

    • @richardc020
      @richardc020 Місяць тому +2

      I want Capt. Tim steering us out to sea and back indeed.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @bernarrcoletta7419
    @bernarrcoletta7419 Місяць тому +4

    New subscriber here. Came over on Sal's recommendation. I love what I've seen so far. Steady as she goes Captain.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Welcome! Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @charlescoghlan2855
    @charlescoghlan2855 Місяць тому +2

    Hi Tim - long time follower of channel. Always respected your ability to present your story and demonstrate your navigation skills. Tighter quarters like you work in can be challenging, and you always show us a "soft landing"!!
    Sorry you tried to offer some well-intentioned supplemental commentary for the Key Bridge mishap and ended up in the snake pit of the Utube format. Please keep up the good work you do and present to us for our enjoyment.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @adamlevin6088
    @adamlevin6088 Місяць тому +1

    Tim, I know nothing about boats, ships, tugs, or the shipping industry except that I follow you (and SV Paquita, and thanks to you, SV Delos, Dr. Sal, and a bunch of others). I think you were totally clear all along. There are many issues where people want "zero tolerance" for errors and mistakes. I think we all wish we could have that, because people get hurt or killed every day due to errors and mistakes. But life isn't 100% safe. Errors and mistakes happen, and it's always a trade-off. The work has to get done, and it has to be efficient and cost-effective. This reminds me of Mike Rowe's speech about "safety third" -- the crab boats have to go into the Bering Sea to get the crab, because people want the crab. It's not safe, but they are paid very well and have a job to do, so they do it. They know the risks. There are always risks. Nobody will like it if we have to increase the cost of everything because we're adding costs to the ships entering and leaving US ports just to avoid a one-in-a-million accident that may or may not happen. Thank you for adding your knowledge and commentary from your wheelhouse. Don't let the haters get you down.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching both channels Adam. CUOTO

  • @bryanepp5340
    @bryanepp5340 Місяць тому +4

    "Learn from your mistakes" most likely why you are a captain. Humility is a mark of leadership.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      ❤️I really appreciate that! Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @wrp3621
    @wrp3621 Місяць тому +10

    Yup, everyone please take a deep breath and switch to decaf .

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      😂😂😂Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

    • @michaelrice500
      @michaelrice500 Місяць тому

      . . . and stop listening to people who make a living stirring up $hit. Cheers, wrp

    • @wrp3621
      @wrp3621 Місяць тому

      Exactly.@@michaelrice500

  • @antonioleone6123
    @antonioleone6123 Місяць тому +1

    Good afternoon captain, an incident happened yesterday in a port in Mexico on the Pacific coast, the port is called Lazaro Cardenas, a Bulk Carrier type ship was about to dock, at slow speed, and with the assistance of 2 tugboats, They couldn't stop him. This shows that even having control of a large tonnage ship, the slightest carelessness can cause an allision. The video is now on YT and Facebook, and the name of the ship is PANAMAX ALEXANDER.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @joethebridge3912
    @joethebridge3912 Місяць тому +1

    Capt, great video, you nailed it. 30 years on the water and I suck up whatever knowledge you hand me.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @bobpawlak8530
    @bobpawlak8530 Місяць тому +3

    Hi Capt. Your videos are so great and your professional opinions are so well respected. Please don't even attempt to apologize and just keep up the good work!!!!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @wicksfarm4895
    @wicksfarm4895 Місяць тому +8

    My dad always said to me, son that in life there are two things you don't talk about politics and religion

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @aussiecaptsarcasm9100
    @aussiecaptsarcasm9100 Місяць тому +2

    I live in Port Hedland Western Australia the biggest bulk iron ore export port in the world. Whilst I am not involved in the shipping industry I can tell you what the practices are here. Our shipping channel does not have bridges over it but it does have some quite sharp turns in it. Usually in low wind conditions we use 3 ocean going tugs to support the ship. When they pass the last sharp turn in the channel 2 tugs head for home and the last tug stays with the ship until she is fully safe. By the way in the last 14 years I know of 2 instances of steering engine failures in the channel and the tugs earned their money then. Remember these are Cape class vessels and need a lot of work to turn them when fully loaded. Good videos too thanks mate

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @vedaalban244
    @vedaalban244 Місяць тому +2

    Spot on. A voice of reason amid a sea of craziness. Hang in there.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @anthonymiller7992
    @anthonymiller7992 Місяць тому +5

    You have a great understanding of what it takes to change course of a tug mated to the stern of a barge.
    If we scale that up to 3 football fields long and 50yards across and scale up what it takes to turn from the rear, it's not feasible.
    Tim I wish people would leave the tug argument alone.
    I don't know the answer but when you look at the number of accidents vs the number of ships going in and out, as the ol joke goes --- its still safer to fly than drive.
    What I am looking at is why after the power is restored she made a drastic turn to starboard. We do not know the status of propulsion during the power outages.
    I think it's going to boil down to pilot error by way of procedure not neglect.
    If the ship had no change in propulsion just lost of rudder, if we look at the ships track at the time power was restored she would have cleared the bridge.
    We need to figure out why she made a starboard turn AFTER power was restored the first time.
    Sometimes the best course of action is inaction which is the hardest thing to do. It's like hitting ice on the highway- best action is nothing, hold steady ease of the gas just a bit then when you hit solid ground you can pull over light a cig and change your shorts.
    It was a freak accident that I think is going to lead to pilot error not by stupidity but by the nature of the situation and the proximity to the bridge.
    Bridges need buffers built around then end of story

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

    • @dougaltolan3017
      @dougaltolan3017 Місяць тому +1

      My money is on catastrophic mechanical failure of the steering gear so bad that it took out a lot of other hardware, particular the lighting electrical system.
      All we know about power is the lights going out twice and an engine blowing soot.
      Lights out twice *could* be a short takes out a breaker. Now, admit how many times do you reset the trip before finding the fault? Honest now! Breaker reset, trips again, breaker reset and the fault "removed" (as in evaporated in a flash) or a downstream breaker tripping.
      The engine blowing soot might have been the reverse restart with no engine outages, or it might just have been full power (astern), or both.
      Anchor power seems to have been fine, the port anchor was deployed precisely, the radio, GPS and AIS were working.

  • @waveslidin
    @waveslidin Місяць тому +5

    I work for a tugboat company in Norfolk, VA. In speaking with a former VA Pilot, the M/V Dali had a complete loss of power here in Norfolk when docking at VIG previous to heading up to Port of Baltimore.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

    • @jeffgaskell3705
      @jeffgaskell3705 Місяць тому +2

      I have been very suspicious that this was predominantly an electrical issue. The failure of inputs to the VDR is likely electrical related. Possibly even design issues that were not previously caught.

    • @thereissomecoolstuff
      @thereissomecoolstuff Місяць тому

      @@fgervhow is it not in the public’s best interest to get the facts when Taxpayers will be on the hook for repairs and replacement of the bridge and its economic impact thanks to the Presidents early statement.

    • @jeffgaskell3705
      @jeffgaskell3705 Місяць тому +1

      @@fgerv As a professional mariner, working on the water, I like to learn from events like this. It is the business of everyone that is affected.

    • @Bubba-wx7lp
      @Bubba-wx7lp Місяць тому

      @waves
      In conjunction with what you heard, in comments on some other channel,just after crash,a guy who seemed to know/ work the Baltimore docks,said Dali lost all generator power several times,over couple days,when docked and being loaded,prior to accident.
      I'm old mechanic,you kind of feel when someone in related area is just stating facts, probably of what he heard from a fellow dock worker.
      Combined with what you heard, of both true,clearly point to major power problems.

  • @jking755
    @jking755 Місяць тому +2

    Good job Tim!!
    Situational awareness is something you are really good at.
    Keep the videos coming.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      I appreciate that. Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @utahrusty7555
    @utahrusty7555 Місяць тому +2

    Sounds like a bunch of folks got their Rudders bent over this, don't take any of it personally! I think the confusion here is some harbors use "Escort Tugs" and some do not, and I think folks are assuming ALL harbors use or should use tugs on escort. This isn't practical or necessary, but may force some changes in Baltimore, or not! I know several harbors use escort tugs, mostly in very tight quarters, but many do not, See the port of Rotterdam or Sydney to get an idea of this. like I say though, not all ports need or require Escort Tugs! The Columbia River most definitely requires Escort Tugs, all 79 River Miles of it, that's a lot of Horse power on tap, and very expensive operations to run, but absolutely necessary for safe navigation! Keep up the awesome work Tim, lookin forward to seeing more content!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @user-em1dg3he1h
    @user-em1dg3he1h Місяць тому +3

    Also to add , you do wonderful work talking about the cost , if people are really concerned about the loss of life and damage to property , look no further than the very roads and highways you drive on. Huge numbers of deaths each year , 2 cars each approaching each other at speeds to 60 mph , for a combined speed of upwards to 120 mph.
    And our safety solution ??
    A narrow stripe of paint to separate them.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      💯!! Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @alanpreston1779
    @alanpreston1779 Місяць тому +3

    Stern line running is mandatory in the UK for vessels in confined waters.

    • @rlanasa
      @rlanasa Місяць тому

      For steering or braking. At what speeds? AT WHAT SPEEDS?

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @drumset09
    @drumset09 Місяць тому +2

    Imagine you're on a level parking lot, your car's tires are inflated to the proper PSI. You, as an individual, try and push it from a standstill. Likely got it moving. Now have someone put the car in gear and get it rolling at just a couple miles an hour, and put it in neutral. Now try and get the car rolling the opposite direction with just your power.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @37903eral
    @37903eral Місяць тому +2

    I am not a captain of a vessel on water. But I am smart enough to know that there are no brakes on a ship, tug, or even a small motor boat. Even when you hit the brakes on your car of the truck, you don't stop on a dime. I'd say there are too many experts who aren't experts. Thank you for your opinions. It's Damm hard to please most people now day's. Be safe out there sir.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @robotarms
    @robotarms Місяць тому +4

    I love this channel. Great work Tim

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @truckermre
    @truckermre Місяць тому +3

    ‘Maybe everyone needs to switch to decaf’ hilarious and perfect at the same time 😂 love your positivity my man!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @ralphtacoma9468
    @ralphtacoma9468 Місяць тому +1

    I truly respect your personal integrity.. It's not easy to admit the limits of your own knowledge when discussing things, but it's essential if you are to achieve success. I've been project manager on some projects that were fairly from my perspective (nothing remotely like the Key Bridge. Big for me was $10,000,000!) with a small team of people (engineers and craftsmen/ supervisors) say 10-20 people, and have to solve some complex problems. We had to recognize when we needed outside help, and I (not being egotistical here it was. MY responsibility) had to figure out if expert we were planning to hire really could help us. I found that one of the most revealing interview questions was to ask him, "what is it that will limit your value to us?" The ones who knew there own limits always proved to be valuable to us. All of our projects came faster than expected, under budget, and they worked. I see no reason to believe that the principle doesn't apply to projects of any size. Thanks for a great channel!!!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @dozment
    @dozment Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for adding your honest opinion! You know more about this than many of us! I enjoy your channel very much.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @kenkloepping2779
    @kenkloepping2779 Місяць тому +4

    Pay no attention to the serial commentary! Remember..."those who know,know! Those who don't know, pretend to know!".
    I for one, appreciate the content you bring!
    Stay safe Cap!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @LocalmotionSpain
    @LocalmotionSpain Місяць тому +3

    You are a very humble man Tim. I for one very much value your personal experiences which is based on your many years doing the job. When you speak I understand that you are giving your opinion based on your experience and respect that. It is all any of us can do, and that is why discussion is important. As for conspiracy theories, people need to remember that usually the most obvious answer (ie. an accident) is usually the correct one. Sadly common sense, peoples ability to think logically and analyse situations sensibly seems to be sadly lacking these days 😢 greetings again from Spain 🍷

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      I would kill for a caña of Rioja and a plate of Cochinillo! Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @Murph9000
    @Murph9000 Місяць тому +1

    Yeah, you've got the right general idea about energy Vs speed. Going from 5 knots to 7 roughly doubles your energy. Going from 4 knots to 8 knots quadruples your energy.
    It's the same for a rowing boat, your tug, or the Dali; but it does also scale with the weight. Going from 100 tons to 200 tons doubles your energy.

  • @cwnicholson4439
    @cwnicholson4439 Місяць тому +2

    "Look, I just drive a tugboat. I don't have all the answers." My new favorite guy on the internet. Thx, Tim!!
    #TimBatSea
    #LookIJustDriveATugboat
    #IDontHaveAllTheAnswers
    #LuvSalToo 🌊 💙🩵 #LetsGo

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @nevcowpoke1482
    @nevcowpoke1482 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks Captain, your perspective is spot on ! Things happen, fix it, get the Port Open!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

    • @michaelrice500
      @michaelrice500 Місяць тому

      "at's it! Back to work!

  • @nukejets
    @nukejets Місяць тому +2

    Tim, just keep doing what you are doing. I truly enjoy your videos and appreciate all your efforts.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @freedomrider30
    @freedomrider30 Місяць тому +3

    Tim, love ya brother. Some people are just wired!!! 🤣😂🤣😂👍🏻👍🏻😎😎😎

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @user-dv7hb2sc9m
    @user-dv7hb2sc9m Місяць тому +1

    Captain Tim, you did make it abundantly clear that you didn't want to try to discuss things that you don't know about but you kindly
    explained about Tugs. I never read down into your comment sections to see where some might take this but I didn't express my
    own thoughts/feelings out of a respect for you & your position as a man working on the waters. After seeing 2 planes down 3
    buildings in Sept of 2001 I look at everything a little bit different. You're more of an "expert" on the water & that's why I never
    said much after I asked about tugboats not helping. I appreciate & respect your handling of this. I can't speak to it w/ certainty
    but I am curious about it. I think you are wise to steer clear of an obstacle on the water...... very wise. I ought to do the same?!
    peace Sir

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @tamaragibson7925
    @tamaragibson7925 Місяць тому +1

    Helo Tim. I just chanced upon your channel on tugs yesterday and casually but intently watched to satisfy my curiosity surrounding information connected to the tragic Baltimore Bridge incident. I subsequently watched another channel which gave a whole different perspective from a respected maritime professional. No doubt it left me confused, not knowing which view to believe.
    That said, I have to say how impressed I am with your humility in promptly vlogging this follow up. It takes real character to admit error and I just want to commend you on that. It for me, and maybe many others, lends credibility to your channel. Great job!!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Welcome to the channel. Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @hootmt9120
    @hootmt9120 Місяць тому +5

    Energy is proportional to the square of velocity. For a tug handling a ship at two knots versus eight knots, that is four times the velocity or sixteen times the energy. The way is was explained in the previous video was perfectly clear.

    • @PBVader
      @PBVader Місяць тому

      Incorrect. You have homework to do.
      KE = (1/2)mv2

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      Be nice. We're all on the same side.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @ScottyStock
    @ScottyStock Місяць тому +4

    Don't let them bait you Tim. As far as protecting the bridge, every bridge that ever got knocked down was an opportunity for people to learn that you need to put protective structures around bridge supports because accidents WILL happen. As far as the politics, you can blame the authority in charge, and everyone who proceded it for not taking protective action. A few barriers have got to be a lot cheaper than a set of tugs for every incoming and outgoing vessel. The brdge was their how long? thats a lot of presidents that didn't mandate that all the level below him but a damn guard rail up.All of those people are just as liable.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @TimothyBurke-mn3rt
    @TimothyBurke-mn3rt Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for your insight. I have found your videos enjoyable and informative. Kudos for cleaning up the audio!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you for watching and listening. CUOTO

  • @chrispistel5221
    @chrispistel5221 Місяць тому +2

    Kinetic energy is 1/2 mv^2. Put a 5 in for v and compare it to a 7. I think you were pretty much spot on. That 2 unit increase in velocity does nearly double the kinetic energy.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @VideoNOLA
    @VideoNOLA Місяць тому +2

    You're a good man, so don't let us whacky rando commenters ever bring you down. Not even one peg. We came here to learn, and MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! Thank you, sir.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @Jeffrey-ed8sz
    @Jeffrey-ed8sz Місяць тому +3

    Again, TimB has been a point of light in a dark media environment. TimB has the credit as a shiphandler, Skipper, a true Master Seaman. Thanks TimB. Sal rocks. CUOTO

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you very much! CUOTO

    • @Jeffrey-ed8sz
      @Jeffrey-ed8sz Місяць тому +1

      @@TimBatSea You are a great representative of an industry I enjoyed employment in for 32 years. I appriciate your talents, as a true Waterman, a resource of experience, and a recruiter for our next generation.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      @@Jeffrey-ed8sz Thank you very much. I really appreciate that. CUOTO

  • @TheDaisytails
    @TheDaisytails Місяць тому +1

    I'm actually listening to your perspective and learning from it. I was thinking of the tug boat question after the accident and wondering why tugs did accompany the cargo vessel for it's whole path out and under the bridge. I guess draw/elevator bridges have their own limitations also. Yes, maybe we need more tugs and more tug captains. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @Subielicious22
    @Subielicious22 Місяць тому +1

    My new favorite saying is “Mongo just pawn in game of life” to quote a classic from 1974. Keep up the good work! #CUOTO.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂Thank you very much for watching Ian. CUOTO

  • @johndavis318
    @johndavis318 Місяць тому +2

    Your a good man. Your heart in the right spot. Remember conversation helps bring out thoughts and ideas.
    Remember all industries struggle for qualified people.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @DB-thats-me
    @DB-thats-me Місяць тому +3

    If you have never seen an escort tug using an indirect tow to ‘help’ or augment the ship’s own rudder, may I humbly suggest the attached post.
    ua-cam.com/video/8l0Oja_rm0s/v-deo.htmlsi=LorpdMq5sDK80yIz
    And for those of you who have never seen this manoeuvre before, YES, this was a way too aggressive entry. It even stunned the pilot and master. But if it doesn’t leave your jaw on the ground….nothing will.
    Keep up the good work an don’t let the armchair admirals grind you down. 👍❤️

  • @DougGoble
    @DougGoble Місяць тому +2

    We love ❤️ Captain

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

    • @DougGoble
      @DougGoble Місяць тому +3

      @@TimBatSea waiting for your next video. I would be proud to serve under you. I know you wouldn’t have put your crew in danger.

  • @johngaetjen1478
    @johngaetjen1478 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks Tim, A good video. Don't be disturbed by the idiots out there. You do a great job! Keep the thoughts coming.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @davidblowe9096
    @davidblowe9096 Місяць тому +1

    Great job Tim, not everyone expect 1 YT’er to have all “their” answers 👍
    Having watched you channel for a while and another channel where that YT’er works on the bridge of container ships I’ve learned “it’s all good till it’s not” with shipping and 100,000t moving at 8kt isn’t going to stop in 100yds.
    Looking forward to your next upload.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @johns280
    @johns280 Місяць тому +2

    I never steered a tug or built a bridge, but if possible I’d recommend that one pillar not hold up the whole bridge.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @Bob060742
    @Bob060742 Місяць тому

    Capt. Tim:
    Thanks for the quick reply. Yes, I have seen the Cape Ann videos. I have been on the water in several positions for over fifty years now but I am still learning new things about handling sea craft of all types. I totally agree with you that there are some people out there who think that they know it all but as we know they show their real knowledge of handling a cart in this vast ocean when they probably have never hotter sea water on their skin. Keep up the great work and produce your videos.
    Bob M

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you for watching Bob. Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @dobbsguitar
    @dobbsguitar Місяць тому +1

    Truth, information, reality, reason: all connected and part of the same ethic. I like that you hold these values. There are two things my dad said: never give someone money for doing nothing, and, never apologise for something you didn't do.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @dannyb6968
    @dannyb6968 Місяць тому +1

    Captain Tim, You are very clear. I think you're doing a great job.
    You stated facts, and are very clear, you explain the rules as they are written.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @davidrigoni8231
    @davidrigoni8231 Місяць тому +2

    It’s like Sean Connery said in Rising Sun ‘ In America everyone is trying to fix the blame, and not the problem. In Japan they fix the problem and nobody gets blamed.’ (Paraphrased?) Not saying there’s no blame here, but worry about getting the harbor open first!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @MMFFcoverSTANG
    @MMFFcoverSTANG Місяць тому +1

    A tug “steering from the stern” happens all the time in the port of NY and NJ. Tugboat Willy just posted a video 4 hours ago where he sails a ship from Port Elizabeth and to turn under the Bayonne Bridge he’s turning it from the rear with his line. You mentioned a while back about tugs doing this and potentially flipping over. I believe it had to do with McAllister towing in NY/NJ

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Yes, and they almost stop the ship to do it. Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @mikmohr
    @mikmohr Місяць тому +1

    It is a Solent requirement (UK entry into Southampton), for large oil ships to have a tug tied at the stern to help the steering. You can watch it happening on the webcams. I do not know the reason they started it.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @michaelheilker3829
    @michaelheilker3829 Місяць тому +1

    I appreciate your insight. God Bless You. I watch Sal. Very insightful

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @JimAllen-Persona
    @JimAllen-Persona Місяць тому +2

    Illigitimus non carborundum (Don’t let the bastards grind you down) 😂😂😂 CUOTO

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      😂😂😂😂 Someone said something like that before and Google offered a translation, but didn't help. Now I understand. 😂 Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

    • @JimAllen-Persona
      @JimAllen-Persona Місяць тому +1

      @@TimBatSeaI’m really kind of surprised your company hasn’t given you a gag order yet. Yes, your answers are honest but it doesn’t make legal any happier.

  • @AlwayzPr0
    @AlwayzPr0 Місяць тому +1

    When ships are leaving the port of Wilmington, NC they will sometimes have a 2 tugs assisting the turns in Southport since it is over 90deg and the current can be really fast.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @gregbluefinstudios4658
    @gregbluefinstudios4658 Місяць тому +1

    I REALLY ENJOY YOUR VIDEOS!
    Keep on keeping on about your awesome experiences.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @Piers_Gavestons_Pig
    @Piers_Gavestons_Pig Місяць тому +1

    One word concerning a stern tug steering 100,000 of steel traveling at 8kn? "Girding." or "Girting" depending on where you are.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @spiercephotography
    @spiercephotography Місяць тому +1

    You have so much more integrity and sensibility than so many others speaking on things they don't know, so, thank you! There are still so many unknowns about the entire situation that they're diving into.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @davidquigg6492
    @davidquigg6492 Місяць тому +1

    Hats off to you Tim, you’ve seen a lot and experienced alot over your career. That ship had lots of issues leading up to the incident and having a tug or tugs could of been worst off trying to steer a 100000ton ship

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @stanleyedwards3023
    @stanleyedwards3023 Місяць тому +2

    Tim…You know what you know, press on! BTW years ago I had an invite at Marine Safety tanker simulator at LaGuardia airport. We did a emergency stop from cruise speed, took forever to stop! Keep doing what you’re doing!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @CaptainRScott
    @CaptainRScott Місяць тому +1

    I think you do an amazing job! + I appreciate all you contribute.Thank you!
    Anyone can Monday morning quarterback!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      💯 Thank you very much. I appreciate that. CUOTO

  • @evangatehouse5650
    @evangatehouse5650 Місяць тому +1

    "It's important for me to only speak about things that I know about" - sorry but that's not how the internet works, didn't you know that :) ! As a naval architect who works for a big design company that specializes in tug design: Escort tugs are a real thing and a ~100 T bollard pull escort tug can stop a 300,000 tonne VLCC tanker in about 1.8 km. Full astern with just ship propulsion w/o a tug is over 2.0 km. They generate forces much greater than traditional bollard pull by angling across the flow and using the heeled tug hull to generate lift forces. So the 100T tug might generate 160T of braking or steering forces. That is a lot. You're very right on a couple of things - current container ships typically don't have deck fittings strong enough for these forces. Oil tankers are required to have emergency towing fittings on the stern and many are escorted by tugs that can stop or steer the ship better than the ship itself. And the cost of escorting every large ship would be high and increase demand for tug masters, new escort tugs, etc. Most of the current regs on escorting oil tankers came about after the Exxon Valdez spill. Calm seas.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @TheCSRTech
    @TheCSRTech Місяць тому +2

    Tim, ignore the ignorant and trolls, you do you and EDUCATE us from your experience. Ya gotta ask: If ships have navigated under that bridge successfully for 50 years without tug assist, why make requiring them the solution to this one incident? As someone else mentioned, this bridge should have had those two critical support structures protected by concrete bollards, barrier islands or other methods long ago after the lessons learned from the Sunshine Skyway Bridge incident. Those two support structures are a KNOWN weakness in that bridge design. It's amazing this bridge hasn't come down before this.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @PaulOfPeace54
    @PaulOfPeace54 Місяць тому +2

    Retired Cheng @ 40 years. Considering the cost of replacing the bridge it seems prudent to use tugs for ship assist traveling at the advised speed. With tugs and thrusters as a backup, the odds are that this collision would have never happened. Too expensive? How much time would the tugs be needed from the dock to passing the bridge? It works in Valdez and the Houston Ship Channel as an example. Consider that Lloyds of London have calculated no ship assist in their premium equation so using tug assist might help the cost issue via lower insurance premiums. In fact it's going to be more difficult to get insurance if there isn't tug assist in certain areas. It's estimated it is going to cost over 4 billion dollars for the replacement of the bridge. The tragedy has the capacity to become the largest single marine insurance loss ever.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @kikitoh8655
    @kikitoh8655 Місяць тому +1

    Happens in Port Of Corpus Christi Tx all the time , double tugs bow and stern !

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @m.showers1242
    @m.showers1242 Місяць тому +2

    Good job Cap! You may exhaust yourself in attempt to satisfy the majority. IMHO - you've provided enough detail explain the disaster sufficiently.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @scottsuydam3349
    @scottsuydam3349 Місяць тому +1

    Capt Tim, you provide very useful info especially being on scene of this allision. There are a lot of people,that think they know more than a pro does. I’m a semi truck driver who goes over the road, so I feel your pain about the unknowledgable public. Stay safe and continue the good work you do sir

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @larrykeller4174
    @larrykeller4174 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks Tim you've helped me through this ordeal. I don't think you owe anyone an apology. Keep it up and I will keep watching.

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому

      Thank you very much for watching. CUOTO

  • @rjay49
    @rjay49 Місяць тому +2

    Capt you don't have to justify yourself to anyone, as you mentioned you have given your opinion from a industry of tug boats and your 25 years of experience. Those who choose to critique you should join the marine industry and get first hand experience and then and only then they might understand, but in saying that its still good to hear theories and suggestions maybe someone will get it right, keep up the good work, Ive found over the 40 plus years of being a tug boat captain that an expert is just a drip under pressure. Just kidding happy Easter to you all, stay safe stay wise.

    • @jefft5625
      @jefft5625 Місяць тому +1

      Love you Tim!!

    • @TimBatSea
      @TimBatSea  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you very much for watching Cap. CUOTO