What is it about Proposing in Public? || KULTURE SHOCK
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I didn't want public proposal at all. We knew what we were doing from the beginning of our relationship. God had spoken to us both and we were sure where we were going. But, my husband had to do it cause my family members didn't take him seriously because he had not publicly proposed. He did it in the way I absolutely loved. A very beautiful restaurant (that hosted us for free and we were the only ones around), 3 of my very close friends were present (just them) and he got a photographer (very good and affordable) that captured the moment. There was very nice cake and we got take outs to celebrate the moment. Was perfect. No attention. No unnecessary expense. No conformation to world's idea of a publuc proposal. It was as unique as I am. After that, my family accepted his proposal and we got married. In summary: don't attach the authencity of what you have with your fiance to a public proposal and the grandness of it. Stay true to the Lord and to your personality. No pressure!
I absolutely love this.
Rare breed in these days of crass senselessnesss
Wow ✍️🏽🔥 Just wow🔥📌
Joshua na your parents born you indeed. You are very grounded.
I support Jay Mike's perspective that both parties should be aware of their intentions from the first proposal. Additionally, the second proposal indicates that your partner is intentional, romantic, and attentive to your needs. In my case, my husband proposed to me during our pre-marital counseling. Since we both knew we were getting married, there were no tears, but I was pleasantly surprised.
Please talk about Talking stage too. What not to do and how fast is too fast?
I never wanted and I told my fiance now my hubby .I guess he would havd probably to do it on my 25th birthday,which was my last birthday as a spinster . However, I had let him know my preference for a private life . We celebrated my birthday in a very cosy ambience with 2 of his close friends around . To the glory of God our wedding will be 15 Years by Nov this Year. I think it's more of preference,he did the 1st proposal Jay Mikee mentioned and that's enough for us .
The fancy one isn't necessary, the important thing is that both of them should receive conviction from God for a go-ahead into marriage.
She’s so eloquent, I love her voiceee, Mary
I just had to like when I heard “that’s why Jesus is a carpenter “😂😂
Mary's future husband you're watching, she just told you her preferred type of proposal, if you know you know😂😂😂 I love Mary 🎉🎉
😂😂😂Is the way Jaymikee say "who are you to say , say yes"😂😂😂😂
I love the way Jaymilkee said "on the altar"😂😂
So the first proposal is what we called "ASKING OUT".
I just remembered Daddy Mike only did the first proposal...IT IS YOU I WANT TO MARRY 😂😂 under the tree....as in on a low key after pounding yam and all😅😅
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I would love it if you can do a video on do's and don't in a Christian courtship
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So, my first comment was when I just started and I think I'm going to be making more comments.
For now though,
JayMikee, I won't say it's just dawning on the ladies that you're about to spend the rest of your life with this guy but there's just a different kind of reality that hits and it feels so surreal.
Let me give context, when wrote my final paper in the university, I was like, I'm a graduate 🎉🎉.
After convocation, It dawned on me like, Amaka, you are graduate, like no more classes, exams, and all that stuff and I got teary for a bit , so it happens🌝🌚😂😂😅
That's how I felt. I knew we would get married, it just felt so real at that point that so marriage is coming true true, I am going to a man's house. I am really going to start a family 😂...you get it
Support JayMikee..i honestly dont like the public proposal
Lessons learned
I just like this Mary girl, I like her voice and boldness
The truth, in my view, is that if the relationship is defined, it shouldn't be a surprise. I am in the private camp and I think a lot of people just want to follow the trend
1st is very necessary!
Public is not necessary, abeg let us save what we have and do a small dinner with nuclear family.
The first proposal is the starting point of a relationship. Courtship follows if the sis gives a positive response, then the courtship leads to wedding & marriage. The second proposal is all about individual preferences. Thank you. More grace to you all in Jesus' name.🙏
Thank you so much for sharing this very important discussion with us.
Jaymikee wanted to talk about the biblical aspect, where did we get this public proposal from... It's a western culture agreed...but Mary did not allow him to hit it..
I personally do think about that too, that is it biblical, even the bridal shower stuff.
I love the way it ended though ...when they both said their parents did not have public proposals and they are doing exploits in their marriage .
Let's do it the Bible way and ask God for direction and leading.
PEACE.
Technically the first public proposal was in Genesis 24:47 😅
The reason we cry is because, the whole thing appeals to women's emotions firstly, and like any other thoughtful gesture it says alot, eg. That you actually went to great lengths (in each man's own capacity btw, not every female expects a car), you took into consideration what I like, you've actually been attentive when I've been throwing around the hints😅 ect.
It's almost like bringing flowers to your wife in hospital/"get well soon card/ her fav. smootie" it's expected but the fact that he did it... top tier 🎉😅so obviously I'm gonna cry that you made me feel special🥰😊
sorry, did Rebekah say yes there? no. it was not a public proposal, it was a private proposal that occurred at a public area..it was at the well. this was the 1st time he met Rebekah so it aligns more with what Jaymikke said, the servant of Abraham made his intention known by putting the jewelry on her. that is why most 1st date, men come with gifts to make their intention known
and later met with her mother and brother (Introduction), which she then agreed and left to her husband house.
@@leavemealone7935 a pRivate proposal that happened in pUblic??? 🙃👀 you know what I'm just gonna *leave you alone***
On point bro!
So accurate.
@@leavemealone7935 exactly!!!!!!!On point!!!!! Accurate!!!!!! But only the KINGDOM mindset can relate/understand/accept this analogy
From my perspective as a believer, both the 1st and 2nd proposal are necessary and important.
The first is done to begin the courtship process by making marital intentions known, while the second is done to end the courtship process and just get married by simply declaring, I'm ready, let's get married.
Many people have the intention of getting married to a person but don't feel ready for the marriage. Hence, the lack of the second proposal is what keep people waiting as Lord of the Rings.
NOTE: After the first proposal, you can't go about telling others I'm getting married, you can only say I'm no longer single, I'm now in a serious relationship and I've got a fiance or fiancee, but after the second proposal, you can boldly say to others I'm getting married.
Therefore, all couples do both proposal consciously or unconsciously just that the contemporary world has added more glamour to the second, taking it public.
Whether the second proposal is done public, private or semi-public, is a personal choice between the intending couples, and it shouldn't be fueled by worldly pressures.
Yes, a public first proposal is an absolute blunder and error, please don't try it.
And the second proposal, if private shouldn't be done out of stubbornness and selfishness and if public shouldn't be done to satisfy worldly pressures and lust but should be done the way the soon to be couple wants it and how the Lord will permit them do it.
In Summary, the first proposal is strictly private while carrying along the right minds for guidance, while the second proposal is based on the intending couple's desires and purposes. Yet in all, none should disobey God... SELAH!
Lots of thanks to this amazing team, Zion Kulture, for putting up this and shaking this table...😊
God bless you guys more as you keep blessing us in Jesus name.
🔥 Thank you for this comment
Well said sir
I think a lot of Christians, especially ladies live their Christian lives by their emotions. Like how they feel for the moment...this I believe is the real issue.. We must grow up to the place where The Word guides us.....This was very well taken topic., and I think we should have a part two please....Thanks so much Jaymikee, for fixing this table....you guys are doing a great job. God bless you all..❤❤❤
Seriously, I support Jay Mike. Before a sister and a brother could go into any relationship, both of them should have sought the face of God and heard from God.
The real proposal is making your intentions known with God’s leading. The acceptance will lead to the preference public proposal 😊
This is a good topic. I am glad that as Christian we are talking about it. There is a need not to conform to the world standards.
I am enjoying the conversation. Well-done!!
I'm my opinion, the 1st and 2nd proposal is necessary
Thank you for your this... Sincerely for me there's nothing technical about this; the day you made your intentions known is the day you proposed, and the day she accepts courtship has began. What next? Everything geared towards marriage. If and only if you want the public one, fine... But the whole thing becomes wired for me when we make it look as if you are just knowing he wants to marry you; Just like Jaymikee said " What have you been doing all the while?"
Pls bring Aunty Lara as a guest for the next topic. Anticipating!!
Choi! Jaymikee!! Indeed, this wisdom can only be God and from Him, all praise to Him👏👏👏
The pelu gbogbo rose te ra got meeee
Christian public proposal, to me, is just to inform everyone that we are getting married. Most of the people I know, they already know they are getting married, their wedding is mostly around the corner and some people don't even bother to do it.
You can never be so certain that you wouldn't get a NO. There's a pair we all believed were bespoke for each other but she still said no! It bets me till this day why she did the guy so and that thing had such an impact on his confidence. It took him years and God's special grace to get him dating again.
26:30 I actually don't want public proposal 22:41 😅 let's follow the iconic Brother John (from Gbemi), he was crying and his friends couldn't even clock it. They thought he was crying out of passion for the kingdom 😂🤣🤣🤣 imagine if he posted it, during his teaching sessions, everyone would be whispering 😂😂 at least he had the chance to tell few close friends and his pastor that admonished and comforted him privately
This conversation has been eye opening. But I think the family and friends proposal is not bad, it’s like sharing the moment with people that matter or have mattered in your journey. Also for the cameras, personally I’ll love a video for memories
JayMike the proud Father 😂😂😂 Really nice session 🙌🙌🙌 God bless you all🙏
This table ehn!!!!!!!! 😂
Ọmọ, there was no public thing with me o
Na inside sitting room i collect ring in September and we were planning introduction in November 😂. We knew we were getting married.
I mean, once you know that you know we are getting married, the next step is the wedding day. The day you asked for my hands in marriage, i won't immediately say yes but i can say let me pray and if the Lord approves, then sure. We can still study each other while courting and if we know that we are compatible for each other, i will then say "yes, i will marry you." He doesn't even have to buy me a ring sef and go on one knee. He just has to be sincere with God and I, and as long as family is involved, the next step will be preparation for wedding 😊😊
That's just my insight.
Thank you all and God bless you 💝
Edit: I mean, I will appreciate a ring, but I don't think it's necessary, as in it's by force.
So how do we know when to start preparing for the marriage
@@marvelousfaderin9404 from your single days.. marriage is different from wedding celebration
@@marvelousfaderin9404 when you guys plan a wedding date. Let's say the wedding is 2 months from now. If everything is in alignment (as in God is involved, family is involved, we know that is going to work), then we will prepare within 2 months.
@@marvelousfaderin9404 wait, are you talking about wedding or marriage?
In my own opinion like Jaymike said, the first thing is to really make your intentions known and prayerfully agree to be with each other,
In the sense that you have done every necessary thing you need to do before you say YES
Then the second aspect I call it giving the ring time, and this is because you are about to wed, this second process can be anyway you want it either private or public
But at that time you are certain you won’t get a NO
All of these is in the kingdom and not the worldly way because most certainly people of the world might not agree to it
Thank you
I told my wife i wanted to marry her at Ojuelegba under bridge directly by the NYSC statue. She said yes while in big fit of laughter. This was before we began dating. She knew my intentions but i sha did the official proposal months later in the presence of her mom and sister. This was after we have started intending couples class in church. My wife said she wanted the engagement ring thats why i had to go on one kneel and say the same thing i said months ago at Ojuelegba underbridge. We still laugh about this over 5 years after.
This is beautiful.❤☺️
So beautiful 😍❤️
While the first proposal is the most important, I think the public or not-so-public proposal gives a finality to your agreement to be married.
I also think that after being very sure that the people in the Relationship are going to be married, the public proposal gives room for wedding arrangements to begin.
And about the tears and shock on the faces of ladies 😂, I think it's just them being grateful for the efforts the guy puts into making them feel special and doing what they want (especially in cases where the guy isn't really interested in a public proposal).
The point remains that the fist proposal is the most important and the second isn't really necessary.
But dear future husband, it's gon be necessary for us 😂🤲🏾.
Teinksss and God bless ❤
Yess
The dating “for what or towards what” aspect has been lost in society. The world glorifies relationships where the couple lives married without the Godly commitment. There are so many people who have a partner for whom just being in the relationship is enough for them and they don’t want more. Its almost like the public proposal has become a consolation prize for a woman waiting forever and being patient. I think (and I have no experience with this yet!) that the public show of proposals is less important when you know from the beginning that this relationship is for marriage.
I want the second proposal o but it should be private proposal 😂😂😂
Was patiently waiting 🎉🎉
Be blessed, Team
First to comment here, yippee
More grace guys
I'm sure sticking with this...
I so love you jaymikee, your jokes and reaction sef ehn😂
Inspiring as usual 👌
I'm really anticipating the next topic 😊
Can't wait for the next topic ahhhh this one is important
Beautiful❤️😊, thank u guys.
I LOVE THIS ENLIGHTENEMENT, IN MY OWN VIEW I DONT SEE ANY NEED😏😏 FOR THE SECOND PROPOSAL AS ACHRISTIAN SINCE YOU BOTH ALREADY KNOW YOU ARE GETTING MARRIED
Love the electric intro. 💕💕
I love your creativity here.
Seriously I can't wait for the next topic
I support Jaymikee actually!!.
Ooouuuu, I love the next topic🔥🔥🔥🙌🙌🙌 what to allow and what not to allow while dating🎉🎉
Fun and insightful. Thank you! God bless you
Jaymikee Sirrr, Let the single breefff😂😂
Jaymikee na true u dey talk jare, the proposal as been done from onset
Happy new year to you jaymikee and to Zion culture as well.
That's what I keep saying, some people will think I'm wierd. Jaymikee said it too! I love a guy that knows what God wants for him and love someone that is straight with their intentions. Christian brothers don't play games! Christian Brothers are Leaders!!!
Wow! Thank you for sharing this sir
Thank you for this.
Nice session
God bless you all 🙏❤️
🤣😂This whole session was hilariously insightful. Dear Mary, I love and understand you as a lady but I completely and totally agree with the guys😂🤣
I agree that the first proposal is very important but the fancy one is also necessary ooo😂😂😂😂 it doesn’t have to be public thou.
Amazing! God bless everyone that made this a success. It’s eye opening.
I really love this talk. This is how a Christian marriage procedure should be. Thank you jaymikee
The second one is not important for me o
Tank u guys for given us Godly content in all this form
Thank you Zion kulture😊❤❤
Can't wait for the next episode 😇
They cry and shout because;
1. "Thank God, I am marriageable"
2. "I overcame family negativity"
3. "I am officially starting couple of UA-cam videos"
4. "Finally, I can choke the single"
5. "My wedding night is closer than expected, Ope oo, finally"
And the list goes on
😂😂😂
They always knew.
😅😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂 eyi tun ga o!
Thanks so much zion kulture
I really learnt a lot from this topic and it was really insightful.
This video spoke exactly what my mum has been telling me for a while now.
We're awaiting the video on the other topic that was slightly opened (Do's and Dont's while Courting)😊
Thanks so much Zion kulture
Congratulations on 20k subscribers❤ ❤
I can't wait for the next topic 😂
Happy new year Jaymikee, Jeremiah and Mary ❤❤. Back to bre... fixing tables 😅
Thanks It was really impactful and there has to be a second part about boundaries during courtship like going to cook for them and the rest
I want a fanciful proposal, private but with a camera man capturing the moment, thanks and God bless. The first one is standard.
And please, the next topic is very important. I can't wait
Jay Mikee is absolutely speaking my mind
Omo.. I learnt alot.. And I want the two proposal oo😅
15:06 True. I saw a UA-cam short on a celebrity, I think it's a comedian: American (can't remember for the life of me🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️). He said he and his ex-wife got engaged and married in secret, divorced privately too, but they are still friends. I don't support divorce but at least the media mess didn't make things worse for them. Look at people like Justin Bieber and Selena Gomez, they've not been together for years, Justin is married but the online in-laws are still on their matter 😂😂😂. Even if they won't be friends, they seem to be more of enemies now, they definitely avoid each other, because all eyes on them. Look at the faux pastor, Kanye 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ look at the public mess, we are not perfect but at least nobody knows I have issues 😂😂. May God help us, let's not be looking for what we can't handle, I can't count the times I've seen "it will surely end in tears" or "breakfast loading" online for relationships that people post and they eventually come to a bad end in public too🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️. Social media is nobody's friend
Thanks for this episode I have learnt alot as a lady
Okay, I love this discussion. Thank you Zion Kulture.
Is the let the singles choke for me😂😂😂
I enjoy this episode
See me clapping ooh 😂😂😂
Jaymikee has said it all.
such a nice and interesting topic..so blessed by it....looking and watching out for the next episode on boudaries in dating and courtship..Things that are permitted and not permitted in dating and courtship....
Totally enjoyed this show😂
Lol... This is so interestesting..... 13:00 aunty seems to be on a hot seat..... Well to the defence of the lady... I agree with the analogy comparing being admitted to the university to represent the process of courship but something usually happen few weeks or few month before the real certificate is given... there's always a part where people publicly sign out, celebrate and thats after their very last exam (that should represent the proposal aspect) in the sense that although you havent gotten the certificate but upon the completion of this last paper we have some sort confirmed assurance beyond what we previously know and we just await the certificate (stands for the alter) to establish it.. but then, the sign out cases is mostly Not ruled out (That's part is always very important, sweet and joyous even though there's no certificate yet).
Courtship can have a bad ending coz it a time when we learn to know each other. If during that something goes wrong the relationship will end. But if everything is fine we can move to next step which is the wedding and then a formal proposal is necessary
Exactly, anything can happen while courting.
We need a separate video of processes of dating- dos and don’ts
Interesting topic!!!
The lady is very beautiful by the way 😊
Thank you for this episode, I also used to wonder why ladies cry when they're being proposed to. We just need wisdom around this thing especially Christians.
Beautiful the different perspectives the speakers approach these topics from.
First is mandatory, second depends on the lady😊😊
Honestly, this is a good watch and I had to do a lot of rethinking with the points JayMikee raised. I must say that his points were very intelligent and meaningful. Thank you, sir. I think everything boils down to both people being sure of the state of their relationship! If as a guy, you know your partner might be skeptical about saying yes, why propose? The man is just setting himself up for an emotional rollercoaster. Lol.
Also, I agree that the public proposal is not really necessary, it also depends on the people in the relationship.
JayMike your perspectives are always straight forward and accurate.
Jaymike very funny but truthful aspect of it, you have said,God bless you
As a lady I wonder what makes them cry and why they are surprised. But some answers that came to mind are , for some it is out of "God, you finally did this for me" and some are just naturally emotional in the presence of people.
For the surprise, I ain't acting surprised please, I've been waiting for it because from day one we should have known why we are together. Maybe circumstances that surrounds it can surprise me sha😂😂😂😂.
We wait for the faithful day anyway 😂😂
JayMikee. I am in total support of your stand regarding this topic. I didn't have any fancy proposal and I wasn't bothered at all. From the start of the relationship with my husband, he already made his intention known and we were both convinced and started courting for less than a year. Then we got married, five years down the line now and I am always grateful to God for the decision. If the sister wants the fancy one, cool. However, the first one is the real proposal based on the kingdom culture...
I love this topic. God bless you JayMikee and crew.😊