17th Karmapa Trinley Thaye Dorje: Birthday, Enthronement, Shamar Rinpoche, Rumtek Monastery

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    05:29 - Shamar Rinpoche
    07:41 - Rumtek Monastery Controversy
    09:39 - Marriage
    10:07 - Reincarnation Controversy

КОМЕНТАРІ • 179

  • @Nobullshitok
    @Nobullshitok 6 місяців тому +15

    By seeing Thumbnail ur desperately needed a viewer. Pls don't use his holiness photo in that way .

  • @Tashi_delek_10
    @Tashi_delek_10 Рік тому +69

    Why is his holiness the Dalai Lama photo is used for thumbnail to gain more views and attention. This is the internal controversy within the kagyu sect of politics. Just stop scapegoating his holiness out of this dirty politics of two karmapa which is a big shame within Tibetan Buddhism over wealth and power within the kagyu sect.

    • @Hawkeye948
      @Hawkeye948 Рік тому +6

      I agree to you that the thumbnail has no good style. As Karmapa Thaye Dorje says in the end of the video "there is no life without obsticals and there is no life without controveses."
      There is a long and not always peaceful history between the Kagyu lineage and Gelugpa lineage and the actual Dalai Lama made the mistake to confirm the Karmapa witch was choosen by the Chinese and he disrespects Karmapa Thaye Dorje. But thats the way thing are , humans are not perfect and also a Dalai Lama makes mistakes. As Buddists we have to learn to deal with such things.

    • @Tashi_delek_10
      @Tashi_delek_10 Рік тому +10

      @@Hawkeye948 According to your comment, i can clearly see who you favour blindly and who you hate. there's nothing to discuss or argument. you go your side and I go my side. long live his holiness the Dalai Lama of Tibet. bodh gyal lo.

    • @Hawkeye948
      @Hawkeye948 Рік тому +2

      @@Tashi_delek_10 You can see clearly who am hating ?
      I do not hate a lot of people, and people I hate like Putin I try to judge in a fair manner.
      And people I respect like the Dalai Lama I do not judge very often, but in the case of the Karmapa controverse he made some severe mistakes.

    • @Tashi_delek_10
      @Tashi_delek_10 Рік тому +2

      @@Hawkeye948 For you it's mistakes which I don't agree at any cost.because you support the person who you believe or trust, whatever who he is, I don't care and respect that idle. my choice, my respect for the one whom many hates of jealousy of his popularity and respect by millions.

    • @Hawkeye948
      @Hawkeye948 Рік тому +1

      @@Tashi_delek_10 If you don´t care than we don´t have to argue.
      Both, Karmapa and the Dalai Lama are emanations of Chenresig. And we are praktitioners.

  • @mjohnson5030
    @mjohnson5030 Місяць тому +2

    You can disagree with either side. But regardless who you believe, that thumbnail with HH TDL was a cheap shot.
    Un Buddhist and unprofessional.
    The DL never said or implied anything like that.
    Click bait?
    Too bad, because the video could have been neutral amd fairly balanced explanation of the facts.
    Shame.

  • @doll_choden99
    @doll_choden99 4 місяці тому +15

    "It’s saddening that the majority of people are against the Karmapa's marriage. 😐 I always try to explain to some people that this marriage is not based on worldly activities but is rather a necessity for some Trulkus. They are required to have a consort to strengthen the dharma's activities and teachings through their lineage, and also to prolong their life.
    It shouldn’t matter who the real Karmapa is, does it? 😃 As long as they both are engaging in flourishing Buddha's activities and benefiting all beings. Who knows?
    Both could be Karmapas, mind, and body. So please, let’s be kind and grateful for these highly sublime beings."💕🙏 spread love!

    • @maxsmith111
      @maxsmith111 4 місяці тому +1

      Only thoughtful comment here, thanks.

    • @Hawkeye948
      @Hawkeye948 Місяць тому +1

      It is better to marry than to have a child and keep on pretending to be a monk.

    • @jurmilotay6118
      @jurmilotay6118 16 днів тому +1

      Dont bullshit

  • @sonamdolma7762
    @sonamdolma7762 5 місяців тому +4

    Inappropriate thumbnail for us who consider his holiness Dalai Lama as spiritual leader and my root guru. It’s disturbing and it’s trigger anger in me which I don’t want to install at alll.

  • @BalancedChaosJT
    @BalancedChaosJT Місяць тому +2

    Urgyen Thrinley Dorje is the legit Karmapa.
    🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
    Even the english translation AI calls the other guy & Sharmapa - 'cancer'

  • @TsheringWangdi-f9t
    @TsheringWangdi-f9t 3 місяці тому +2

    He is not karmapa …the boy who from Tibet is real karma pa and the one who conforms by 14th Dalia la ma

  • @thillaybhutia6646
    @thillaybhutia6646 Рік тому +9

    Buddha has three bodies... highest body is Dharmakaya body you can compare to (Sky).. Second highest body is Sambhogakaya body like (cloud) & third highest body is Nirmanakaya body like (rain)...so all Rinpoches r the Nirmanakayas of Buddha..Karmapas can b menifest into1,2,3 or uncountable numbers they r all Nirmanakayas form of Buddha..

    • @lamamonlam6902
      @lamamonlam6902 10 місяців тому +2

      Is like this in anonymous incarnation is countless, but official us holder of Karmapa lignage, Trinlay Thaye Dorje is the real Karmapa.

    • @TerrySullivan-s4q
      @TerrySullivan-s4q 5 місяців тому +1

      At a major press conference attended by the New York Times, Time, Newsweek, etc and major world press, at which I was present, HH the Dalai Lama was asked about the recognition controversy of the 17th Karmapa. He allowed that there might be, according to Tibetan tradition, multiple simultaneous manifestations. But when asked directly, "Who will sit on the throne of the Karmapas?" He stated very clearly that, "Two people cannot sit on one throne." Ugyen Trinley Dorje would be the person on the throne and settled the issue in the presence of the world press. Sadly so many machinations, obstacles and controversies remained through China to control and undermine Tibet and the Dharma though the Dalai Lama was clear on this and other occasions.

  • @diligentlight151
    @diligentlight151 Рік тому +5

    No matter what, if every body does not start doin just real Bohdichitta, it can cause big big trouble for this world. No fighting; compromise.

  • @paldenlhamo8888
    @paldenlhamo8888 8 місяців тому +4

    We believe only real karmapa
    For the dalai lama
    Palden lhamo khen

  • @Fearforkarma
    @Fearforkarma 2 місяці тому +1

    Not much faith in those having wife, sorry

  • @kingkong-ed8tv
    @kingkong-ed8tv Рік тому +5

    Does his holiness said bad about karmapa????lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 don't use this kind of thumbnail. it is not a dharma.

  • @KuntseVlog
    @KuntseVlog Рік тому +11

    I am monk of Galwa Karmapa Thinley thaye dorje and I have humble request for you please change the thumbnail 🙏

    • @mymeditationmarathon
      @mymeditationmarathon  Рік тому +2

      We will! Thank you for your message

    • @dracokaiser
      @dracokaiser 11 місяців тому +3

      @@mymeditationmarathonwhy has the thumbnail not yet been changed like you said you would?

    • @schinkenkaesecroissant
      @schinkenkaesecroissant 4 місяці тому

      @@mymeditationmarathon The Thumbnail is still waiting to be changed homie :) do it now for bonus karma

    • @mjohnson5030
      @mjohnson5030 Місяць тому

      ​@@mymeditationmarathon 11 months later 🤥 🤥 🤥

    • @mjohnson5030
      @mjohnson5030 Місяць тому +1

      "We will change the thumbnail..."
      11 months later... 🤥

  • @kaydee8017
    @kaydee8017 3 місяці тому +2

    There's always been one Karmapa , and he is suffering the most ..

  • @rigzenchorol8419
    @rigzenchorol8419 8 місяців тому +2

    If he is real karma.why he is married..n enjoy life like normal family

    • @cajovakava5333
      @cajovakava5333 2 місяці тому +2

      Better than Ogyen impregnated Vikki Hui Xin Han who was nun and he left her. I think that true Karmapa didn't do that.

  • @khengenxi
    @khengenxi Рік тому +9

    Don’t know is he karmapa or not but monk with wife and baby! Really? 😂😂😂

    • @karmatenzinchophel1313
      @karmatenzinchophel1313 11 місяців тому +3

      The 15th Karmapa Khakhyab Dorje was married

    • @kanatsizkanatli
      @kanatsizkanatli 10 місяців тому

      A man without a wife. That is the unusual situation that can lead to unwanted things. Look the at Catholic church and how it leads to paedophilia, just look around you, a happy man with his wife and child is the natural order, there is nothing with with this, especially in our time

    • @doll_choden99
      @doll_choden99 4 місяці тому +1

      Some High lamas are required to have consort for many spiritual purposes. Even my Great grandfather who was once a High Lama had a consort in order to expand his lineage. For instance Our precious Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche was married in order to prolong his health!! We are taught as a tibetan Buddhist not to criticize highly lamas! Who knows? Both could be reincarnation of Karmapas. One mind and one Body! I equally believe in both karmapas not only because they’re reincarnation of karmapa because I believe they both are benefiting all beings by flourishing buddhas precious activities 🙏 🙏🙏

  • @karmathinlay6881
    @karmathinlay6881 Місяць тому +1

    The karmapa recognized by Shamarpa is real one.. Dalai lama never recognized any karmapa in history since he belong from Geyluk sect 🙏

    • @Sagemaze
      @Sagemaze 17 днів тому

      Doesnt matter. All of the 4 except for Shamarpa believe in the prophetic letter. Sharmapa acted against the 16th karmapas wish and didn’t give up his power after the given time. He simply acts out of egoism and power hunger. 3rd Jamgon as well as the other two believed in the Letter. Only the one who defied the 16th karmapas wish doesn’t.

  • @karsonwang7353
    @karsonwang7353 4 місяці тому +1

    Urgyen tinley dorjee is real karmapa.dont use his holiness photo.

  • @t.wee07
    @t.wee07 2 місяці тому +1

    fake n lies ..

  • @GeorgeKarayannis
    @GeorgeKarayannis 4 місяці тому +1

    Chinese tried to control the Karmapa lineage. Tibet - Bhutan are strategic to their plans. mercifully the dispute has subsided now and the chinese candidate has retreated to a more quiet life. TTD is continuing the lineage and doing great work all over, with Diamond Way Buddhism at the forefront and the students of Lama Ole. Karmapa chenno

  • @GangkarMetok_hindi
    @GangkarMetok_hindi Місяць тому

    Pls stop creating controversy! You can see the motivation of this video just by the cheap thumbnail and narration that does not have any proven facts. I do not have any personal issue with the second karmapa but this kind of drama is ugly.

  • @dhimipipon
    @dhimipipon 6 місяців тому +1

    You should stop this false propaganda now.

  • @jigmetrinchen4873
    @jigmetrinchen4873 Рік тому +3

    Isn't it true that great Lamas have clraivoyance power or supernormal power foresee power. If they do have. Then why issue recognising the true one.... something is fishy...

    • @JR-qb7qt
      @JR-qb7qt 8 місяців тому +2

      There is no issue though. The Dalai Lama clearly recognized who is the Karmapa so ya he isn't confused and neither are the followers and neither is the Karmapa. It's the common people who are confused if they are on the wrong side, but not the Lama's themselves or the followers of the Lamas.

  • @jebroe860
    @jebroe860 Місяць тому +1

    We all know the real Karmapa is not OTD.
    There is also a 3rd
    Karmapa candidate Dawa Zangpo from Mongolian.
    Om at hung

  • @mjohnson5030
    @mjohnson5030 Місяць тому

    ​@mymeditationmarathon wrote "We will change the thumbnail" 11 months before this comment.
    🤥 This is not a reliable source of truthful Dharma info.

  • @noigardner7068
    @noigardner7068 23 дні тому

    For rhe Buddha's sakes dilai lama should have been gone👈karmas is Real and most times come in a flash replace dilai with a real great person from Australia 🇦🇺 with Love

  • @cherylbailey4803
    @cherylbailey4803 22 дні тому

    I am a intuitive from America. This is the true Karmapa, the other one is a fraud. But what do I know, lol

  • @nfntsering-8839
    @nfntsering-8839 11 місяців тому +5

    I never heard that Karmapa married in his past life.

    • @rogaty_kolarz
      @rogaty_kolarz 11 місяців тому +6

      Check the history of XV Karmapa Khakyab Dorje...

    • @kagyu1
      @kagyu1 10 місяців тому +5

      15th Karmapa who was a powerhouse married and his sons were lineage holders, 2nd Jamgon Kongtrul and 12th Shamarpa.

    • @pandrora5044
      @pandrora5044 2 місяці тому

      17 Well get married but not 16 this people make so nice story don't worry karma is there karma will see

  • @Daonemanarmy
    @Daonemanarmy 3 місяці тому

    No like coz he is not real 17 karma pa...truth only knows Dalia Lama n he recognises ugyen thinkey dorjee is ds real...no need your explanation

  • @domalachenpa7855
    @domalachenpa7855 2 місяці тому

    Dont spreat hate amongst buddhist.... should mind your own business

  • @metube2265
    @metube2265 16 днів тому

    Tibetans should have been united as one against China but Nope! they go to India and start their own fight.

  • @tashitsang2682
    @tashitsang2682 11 місяців тому +2

    One is monk and another not

  • @patryk1083
    @patryk1083 Рік тому +4

    10:02

  • @pandrora5044
    @pandrora5044 2 місяці тому

    They used bokar Rinpoche video dale lama video crazy people fake people

  • @Dunki19555
    @Dunki19555 18 днів тому

    why did you do that this thumbnail is quite wrong 👇🧠🧠🧠

  • @tseringwangdu3849
    @tseringwangdu3849 9 місяців тому +1

    Fake karmapa ! Self praised dukpai makpa🇨🇳

  • @danielq5570
    @danielq5570 9 місяців тому +1

    Fake lama

  • @kungasangpo302
    @kungasangpo302 9 місяців тому +1

    Fake

  • @MusicBringsTogether
    @MusicBringsTogether 19 днів тому

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @NimSonam
    @NimSonam 5 місяців тому

    Why did you use His Holiness the Dalai Lama photo…. Stop spreading hatered… he is not Karmakar he married and renounced from monk…

  • @ThomasMile
    @ThomasMile 5 місяців тому

    Pls report this channel misinformation with huge lacking knowledge and information abt Tibetan Buddhism. Which totally misleading.

  • @domalachenpa7855
    @domalachenpa7855 2 місяці тому

    Why trying to create controversy and confusion? World knows who is tge real reincarnation of 16th Karmapa.... action speaks louder than words!

  • @pasangtsering876
    @pasangtsering876 4 місяці тому

    Could you remove the Holliness photo.
    If you don't we are going Report your channel

  • @milasan01964
    @milasan01964 11 місяців тому +1

    Mind corrupt

  • @schinkenkaesecroissant
    @schinkenkaesecroissant 2 місяці тому

    Bro you made a promise to change your thumbnail so please stick to your word.

  • @pandrora5044
    @pandrora5044 2 місяці тому

    His father is not Rinpoche his father is business man

  • @jhampangawang6160
    @jhampangawang6160 6 місяців тому

    I done care about rinpoche but etuducation is the first where u learn from their is teacher

  • @davidmickles5012
    @davidmickles5012 8 місяців тому

    The true guru is formless, nondual, dharmakaya - this is your innermost experience of pure being. This guru take the embodiment of bodhicitta or great boundless compassion - which is unconditioned.
    Relax, allow, be
    🙏❤

  • @LonelyDogBarking
    @LonelyDogBarking 8 місяців тому

    I was convinced that the Buddha had expressly said that his teachings were non-sectarian?! And look, now the fiercest battle is being fought in his name. So all those preachings about compassion, understanding, universal love and forgiveness are just empty meaningless words. It seems that Boudhism has ultimately become what the Bouddha never envisioned: just another 'ism'. What a shame…

    • @GM-cq6ez
      @GM-cq6ez 7 місяців тому

      Just the Kagyu school = rife with controversies.

  • @RaginYak
    @RaginYak Рік тому +4

    No monk marries and bear children unless he is a yogi. Hence, fake lama/monk.

    • @КармаПема108
      @КармаПема108 7 місяців тому

      А вы знаете, что Лама может быть семьянином? Только по факту его статуса -семьянина странно выглядят ваши претензии. В истории Линии перерождений Кармап были Кармапы женатые и имевшие детей.

  • @rigzenchorol8419
    @rigzenchorol8419 8 місяців тому

    Thz karmapa enjoy married life...

  • @kieuquangdang4168
    @kieuquangdang4168 11 місяців тому +1

    After being a monk, is a monk allowed to get married ???! Really ??

    • @JR-qb7qt
      @JR-qb7qt 8 місяців тому +2

      No! If you marry then you can't call yourself a monk. The precepts can not be compromised by anyone or changed. The Precepts were taught by the Buddha and no one can ever change that. Namo Amituofo!

    • @doll_choden99
      @doll_choden99 4 місяці тому +1

      Well in the case of Tibetan Buddhism, some highly monks are required to take consort for many spiritual reasons! So yes they’re allowed to marry, well in this case of karmapa. He married to expand his lineage!🙏 it would be kind of irony for Theravada Buddhism ..

    • @kieuquangdang4168
      @kieuquangdang4168 4 місяці тому

      @@doll_choden99 sickness.

    • @kieuquangdang4168
      @kieuquangdang4168 4 місяці тому

      @@doll_choden99 sickness spirit.

    • @Blue-tt6xm
      @Blue-tt6xm Місяць тому

      ​@@doll_choden99People do not understand all 3 Turnings of the Wheel..I used to try hard to help people understand, but finally realized not to waste time & energy on people who cannot see the clouds as their eyes are closed because of the heavy rain, nor see the clear sky because of all the clouds. Rather, I now help all those who are ready to see & ask for clarification.❤

  • @konchoksoom1229
    @konchoksoom1229 9 місяців тому +5

    Lama who involve in the sex practice is no more lama ? Lama who keep the wife and childrens is already fall in samsara so he should remove his red uniform to respect the Buddha and Buddhism. He do not have a rights to insult the Buddha and buddhist in the World.😢😢😢

    • @АртурШагивалиев-е4ц
      @АртурШагивалиев-е4ц 7 місяців тому

      у Будды были дети.

    • @КармаПема108
      @КармаПема108 7 місяців тому

      У вас искажено понятие " уважение к Будде и буддизму".Вы также должны знать, что Лама совсем не обязан быть только монахом. В истории тибетского буддизма, были Ламы которые были женаты на нескольких женщинах, например: Марпа -лоцава. Также и линия Кармап имеет примеры как и монахов , так и семьянинов.

  • @thinlaypaddu
    @thinlaypaddu 7 місяців тому

    They are both Karmapa .

  • @lamamonlam6902
    @lamamonlam6902 11 місяців тому +4

    Karmapa Trinlay Thaye Dorje.

  • @lamamonlam6902
    @lamamonlam6902 10 місяців тому

    Om a houng be zar Guru Pema sidhi houng

  • @lhakibhutia6284
    @lhakibhutia6284 5 місяців тому

    🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @minkheng163
    @minkheng163 Рік тому +3

    Fake karmapa...

  • @lamamonlam6902
    @lamamonlam6902 10 місяців тому

    Om ma ni pe me houng hri

  • @lamamonlam6902
    @lamamonlam6902 11 місяців тому +4

    Om A Houng Bédzar Guru Péma Sidhi Houng

    • @lamamonlam6902
      @lamamonlam6902 10 місяців тому

      In passed life of 16th Karmapa 15th Karmapa Khachab Dorje was married

  • @tenzingsherpa4157
    @tenzingsherpa4157 11 місяців тому

    Karmapa honeymoon was great victorious maybe he will have more babies😂 .

    • @karmasonam1879
      @karmasonam1879 10 місяців тому

      Go and see your parents honeymoon.....

    • @karmasonam1879
      @karmasonam1879 10 місяців тому

      I think you already saw it....

  • @ChristianHungary
    @ChristianHungary Рік тому

    😉👍👍👍🙏

  • @jigmeebhutia9949
    @jigmeebhutia9949 10 місяців тому

    Lama ..la Khenno..🌾🙏

  • @harryschaefer2857
    @harryschaefer2857 10 місяців тому

    om mani peme hung

  • @omkapoor2373
    @omkapoor2373 Рік тому +2

    It's not based on yes or no it depends on how they improve themselves. I respect both of them, but I do not agree with their followers.

    • @FlussdesLebens1
      @FlussdesLebens1 Рік тому +1

      When do you think one of them has the compassion to Show his realization and end the uncernaity?

  • @markarend8226
    @markarend8226 10 місяців тому +1

    After the 16 karmapa dissapears the light was taking with him...he will come back ,be sure.

  • @sonamwangyal5218
    @sonamwangyal5218 Рік тому +1

    Dreams are dreams, who has got a proof? ANY ONE CAN HAVE A WILD DREAMS, IT IS NOT VALID, NO PROOF
    I can have a wild dreams that i am a karmapa, ,

  • @sonamwangyal5218
    @sonamwangyal5218 Рік тому +1

    Dream, based manupulations, no proof , to the dreams,

  • @sonamwangyal5218
    @sonamwangyal5218 Рік тому +1

    All the dream based manupulations are not valid in the law
    Of the land,..

  • @lynne.oconnor1322
    @lynne.oconnor1322 9 місяців тому

    THANK you for this video

  • @FlussdesLebens1
    @FlussdesLebens1 Рік тому +2

    The authentic 18th karmapa will appear when the time is right. At least in this decade.

  • @tadorlama2294
    @tadorlama2294 7 місяців тому

    Very nice video 👏

  • @kunsangpalmo8345
    @kunsangpalmo8345 Рік тому +2

    Very nice keep it up 👍👌

  • @sonamwangyal5218
    @sonamwangyal5218 Рік тому +2

    Shamar "s incarnation was again mamipulated, by Topga, a causin of the 16th, karmapa, ,it is relaibly learned,

    • @КармаПема108
      @КармаПема108 7 місяців тому

      Я лично знала Топгу Ринпоче. Ваша информация дискредитирует и его и Шамара Ринпоче. Будьте осторожны со слухами.

  • @sonamkhangsar8869
    @sonamkhangsar8869 Рік тому +2

    No kharmapa

  • @dolmakalsang2440
    @dolmakalsang2440 Рік тому

    🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @dolmakalsang2440
    @dolmakalsang2440 Рік тому +1

    🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @savetibet1086
    @savetibet1086 Рік тому +2

    Karmapa thaye dorjee is a fake..he is not recognized by his holiness...

    • @sonamdetchubhutia6770
      @sonamdetchubhutia6770 10 місяців тому +1

      In my view, no one is fake if that individual meditate and practice the dharma properly and guide the sentient beings by his knowledge. One thing I cannot imagine about Thaye Dorjee is taking a wife and entering into family life.

    • @lamamonlam6902
      @lamamonlam6902 10 місяців тому

      J

    • @savetibet1086
      @savetibet1086 10 місяців тому

      @@lamamonlam6902 but he can only be a lama or rinpochey n not a karmapa....this karmapa name is only enthroned to karmapa ogyen thinley dorjee. Shamar rinpoche is not the highest lama.. Each n Every rinpoche has to go through the acceptance of his holiness...
      You people can follow but we real Tibetan or buddhist can't follow...🙏🙏🙏

    • @lamamonlam6902
      @lamamonlam6902 10 місяців тому

      @@savetibet1086 Yes you are right, I have no thing to say concerning this situation.

    • @lamamonlam6902
      @lamamonlam6902 10 місяців тому

      @@savetibet1086 About Shamarpa he is not the highest Lama but he is Shamarpa.

  • @robertword1357
    @robertword1357 6 місяців тому +1

    Trinley Thaye Dorje isn’t the reincarnation of the 16th Karmapa. Instead, he is the reincarnation of Dorje Shugden.

    • @luckyprince9649
      @luckyprince9649 5 місяців тому

      Ogen trinley dorje is not a real karmapa... he is reincernation by setu rinpoche.....

  • @JampalCcc
    @JampalCcc 10 місяців тому

    Don't against

  • @tenten9274
    @tenten9274 Рік тому +1

    DOG NEVER BECOME A TIGER

    • @lamamonlam6902
      @lamamonlam6902 10 місяців тому +3

      Dog is very good friends of humans,
      but tiger eats humans also.

    • @tenten9274
      @tenten9274 9 місяців тому

      @@lamamonlam6902 IF DOG IS BECOME A MAD NEED TO KILL
      TIGER NEVER BE A MAD
      YOUR KARMAPA IS LIKE A CHINES FUNDED SAME AS PENCHEN LAMA GOD BLESS YOU

    • @АртурШагивалиев-е4ц
      @АртурШагивалиев-е4ц 7 місяців тому

      они люди

  • @luciagiolla8880
    @luciagiolla8880 9 місяців тому

    @luciagiolla