Is Sea of Thieves TOXIC?
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- Опубліковано 23 гру 2023
- Is Sea of Thieves TOXIC?
If the internet is to be believed, then Sea of Thieves is riddled with toxicity. Apparently, everybody will always attack you on sight, steal your treasure and call you names whilst doing it.
But is that actually true? Or are people merely exaggerating an issue that's present in every PvP game? That's what I want to find out today.
I have decided to conduct a social experiment in which I go undercover as a "new player" in an attempt to find kind hearted pirates willing to lend me a hand.
And if they do, they will be rewarded.. With a massive stack of loot.
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Meeting 3 ships that actively trying to sink you simply because you're new alongside with a random hacker that spawns kegs everywhere literally on your first run and still having the tenacity to search for arguments why SoT isn't toxic - that's dedication.
only until safer seas, this is the reason why I only had 10 hrs of playtime. yes I'm bad at pvp but I love digging up treasure!
What if I tell you, that you don't have to PVP every sinle ship you see on regular seas? @@canihavethesauce 🤔
@@PaLaDinDenTo be fair, he probably wasn't looking for Fights, but the Fights found him.
@@L0K1DOKI I like how your hate for different players that don't effect you comes out in generic insults. The problem is that you have to make some point about how shameful it is to not be as good as you at a part of the game. Good job. I go in solo all the time in a diaper sloop, I get 4 person teams targeting me and calling me stupid names for not being able to handle it. I don't mind the sinking me and taking my stuff but leaving the message about how stupid I am could be left out. I just say gg, and get a new ship. TLDR: It's not a problem for people to play the game differently.
@@L0K1DOKI You say "Well… don’t know how else to put it"... Easy, just don't say it. By they're own admission that they are bad at pvp. They know and we know that they might lack pvp chops. You coming in and pointing out what they had already admitted is just a bit elitist. I mean you can say what you want but you just come out sounding like a jerk imo.
A friend and I encountered a newer player that was doing a fotd about a week ago. I could tell the person was both new and on the younger side so we decided to help. Said help, turned into a 2 and 1/2 long bodyguard mission as we defended our little friend from the entire server. In the end he sold everything and the utter joy I could hear in his voice just made me smile, nothing but happiness. In effect, I’m a hardcore player who has sunk quite literally thousands of ships, yet it’s these interactions that I remember, and so I raise a toast to many more!
that's the kind of interaction that is great, wish more positive interactions happened when i played
I agree. I have been destroyed by sweats so many times. It’s RARE when someone tries to stop them from being toxic
This is what people who play games forgot, we need to be the big brother helping
Wish it was me but I’m happy for the little fella
Me and my buddies always leave every supply crate we can’t sell on the shore for the next people to get online to use. It’s a very wholesome thing we do to give people extra supplies to start off with
I do that too. Karma crates.
I just give random chests to random people if they accept nice but if they attack me I just let them
Thank you! Haha wish more people did this!
I had that happen its always appreciated and I payed it forward!
I literally just did that after hopping off for the day lmao
I still remember the time my crew and I were playing and came up against Flameheart. We were running out of supplies, when a little sloop comes out of nowhere, smashes into us, and these two dudes just yell, “Ayo, you guys need help?!” It was, simply out, unhinged
Was a pleasure meeting you on the sea. Best of luck on your journeys!
Who were you, were you the nice guy? Or something else?
The Galleon at 3:50. Captain BCXD, sailing the HMS Beaufort helped Cliff defeat the pirate brigantine. @@totallycool-kp3ys
@@totallycool-kp3ysuh oh no response? Do we have a shitter on our hands😂
@@haferrishaydenferris5549 ??
The Galleon (HMS Beaufort) fighting the pirat brigantine was captained by our beloved Commander BCXD and 3 man of his Crew.
@@totallycool-kp3ys
I noticed a Brig being attacked by a Kraken and a skeleton Galleon, so a sailed over there to try and help them, alliance flag raised and all. Of course, they somehow found the time to board my ship and kill me while I was shooting down kraken tentacles. Didn't even have any loot on me.
Honestly, I don't know what I was expecting.
You have a heart of gold and no pirate can take that treasure from you
I've found Brig crews to be the most aggressive.
I had a eaper 5 galleon with the sweaty sales approach me, they gave me tons of loot and wished me merry xmas
I wish I could have a wholesome story like this. Every time a ship comes in my general direction, it usually ends in me getting sunk. I'm not complaining about the PvP, it's a PvPvE game, but it can be a little demoralizing. It's part of the reason I like Safer Seas so much. It gives me the chance to relax and just do some voyages without having to be extremely paranoid.
Yeah I also gave up on trusting people. Even those who act nice usually are only until you drop your guard, and I was wholle prepared for this guy to fall into his back once the vault was open. Which makes me even happier that it did have a happy end.
safer seas is boring as shid
@@arc-sd8sk then don't play it? I think it's fun and will stick to it from now on.
@@arc-sd8sk I'm having a blast playing it with my girlfriend (dunno if you know what that is). 9/10 game now
mbn to have such low iq @@folver91
In my first SoT session a galleon showed up before we could set sails and gave us some supplies since they were planning on logging off and then started playing music in our boat. Since they were not leaving the boat we sailed off ant they stayed in our boat for around 45 more minutes just playing music and repairing our boat. Turns out that having 7 people in a brig is one of the most confusing and fun things we did in the game and it set us on the right path. Now we make sure to try to leave our supplies with other players before we leave and help new players when we can. Making new friends is one of my favorite things in this game
Watching Cliff is always a good time even with a mild concussion. Merry Christmas Cliff and Happy New Year’s
Gotta be careful with those cannons and rook overhangs!
jk, get well soon
Hope you get well soon!
I had a pretty nasty concussion and for me simple games that use basic math helped me recover faster. Something to keep in mind if you get another one. Hope you are feeling better.
Please ignore all the positive comments ❤
Hello everyone here, it was an Honor to be able to protect one of the best if not THE best content creator on the Seas!
I was in command of that Galleon and we all had a heck of a time.
We have a Discord server, where we act as a BRN on the Sea of Thieves
Nice to see you in the video😮
Good evening sir.
It varies heavily. Sometimes I can watch fireworks with other crews while other days my ship is attacked before I've even left the tavern I spawned in.
Yesterday I met some really nice people they taught me how to do the skull event since I had just gotten sea of thieves again after like 1-2 months
A few months ago I finally got the game. About a week later and struggling against other ships, I was in the middle of an order of souls voyage on Snake Island when the crew of a couple galleons showed up. I'd been flying Emissary flag so at first I was freaked out, but actually they wanted me to join them help with stacking the fort of the Damned. Hijinks ensued ships were sunks, but it was one of the best experiences I ever had!
My favorite part of SoT is just meeting people and fishing. The non toxic people that wanna crew up and don't mind having me around is always nice
socialising and fishing are the best part of this beautiful game
Full of evidence of toxicity and yet if he finds one person who is not toxic the game is deemed non-toxic?
I just spent two hours gathering 30K in loot. I was accosted multiple times, almost sank twice (the first time was really close as the ship was almost fully submerged), and accidentally ran through the "War of the Sea of Thieves" without realising it.
As it turned out, the first guy that had attacked me had been following me after that. He watched me from afar as I looted a few islands (I collected three Ashen Bounties, which is about 16K), and then followed me to the harbour.
He wasn't quick enough to steal my stuff, so he sank my ship while I was buying cosmetic items, then killed me.
The levels of toxicity are off the scales. These people hunt you because they can see that you're new. They are weak; the kind to fold like a cheap suit if confronted in real life.
And it's all anecdotal experience anyway. The game is clearly toxic, which is the reason why something like Safer Seas needs to exist. The toxic community has made Safer Seas happen, and now they will no longer have the same amount of easy prey.
What a wholesome story this was. Thanks Cliff, and happy holidays! Can't wait what stories you'll bring to us in 2024.
Edit: Also let me add that SoT is not toxic but i have to admit it does get frustrating when you've done like 6 or 7 hour session and just wanna go sell and every single outpost has someone ready to shoot you into oblivion. And that happened to me and my friend just last night. I tried to reason with the pursuer stating my friend was only on his 3rd session and to simply let us have this one but they weren't into that and sunk us regardless. I think it'd be at least not so frustrating if the bigger ships would focus on their own size and not bully the sloopers but no.
Well, a sloop does not necessarily have to be a bullying target, they can be quite a mouthful
@@MedicWarrior27 True and more than capable to hold their own as Cliff has proven on his videos. Anyway my point was that even though i tried to make the pursuer aware that i have a beginner on board they still wanted to sink us and they demanded us to stop and all. That's a bit toxic in my opinion to demand someone to stop and just lay down or you as the bigger boat will sink them. If it was me alone on that ship i wouldn't have given two f's about the loot, i have 4,8 million coins in the game after all. It was more about the fact that the friends experience on the seas was ruined that night.
@@jontikkapoju1npelailut19 as sad as it is a lot of people will love themselves some "fresh meat" so when you said you had a newbie pirate that just made them wanna sink you mpre
especially if it was a brig
the most toxic players are always a brig
@@AceOBlade I know. The pursuer even happened to be a galleon if i'm not mistaken which is the ultimate example of bigger bullying the smaller. Yeah sure some may argue that my friend should've sailed in safer seas at first but as it doesn't have the same features and abilities that high seas do he wouldn't have had the propper experience. Just because safer seas now exist does not mean that players sholdn't change their attitude towards this game, it's still not a pvp game. Cs Go, Apex legends and Overwatch are pvp games. If in SoT someone just wants to have a fishing trip let them have one. My mentality is that i'm only hostile once someone shoots at me confirming they are hostile and won't try to reason with me first.
Pvp games are indeed not toxic
so long as you avoid interacting with the other players.
Jokes aside, there are some friendly people, there are some toxic people. Thats just how it is.
just go on canadian server, there is no friendly people here, it's a badland here.
Pretty much this. It's humanity. Some are friendly. Some are toxic. It's just life.
@@justebob they need an outlet after being passive aggressive all day
@@Fano2311 and that’s the problem.
@@justebob They just need to spill their angriness somewhere to be friendly in real world XD
Cliff is the youtuber we all love and need, never fails to bring a smile to my face. The only reason I play this game is because of him and now I love this game. Can't wait for your next video! Thanks for making such amazing content.
We need more Gaming UA-camrs like him.
Interestingly enough, I was also planning on giving away a large loot stack. I never got around to it though, so I am glad that you got to complete this experiment. Have a great day!
I really want them to implement a "join crew" option. I love showing ppl the pirate legend hideout for the first time and hearing there excitment when we pull a moderate amout of loot
Yeah dude, I wish. Like how Red Dead online has ‘join Posse’
Thanks for this great video. It's nice to see that not everyone attacks the same way. We really need more players like you on the sea. That's how the best stories are created.
I wish you and all the pirates on the Sea of Thieves a wonderful Christmas.
It's not about the game being toxic. Helping new players out is always good.
But knowing who to fight and when.
Going around and targeting new players isn't good for any player base.
Cliff probably spent 10+ hours on just the footage for a 12 min video - legend as always
Man Cliff, Your commitment to your videos is absolutely mind blowing.
Keep it up my guy!
Okay, Cliff, I love this kind of social experiment, so I'll gladly share one of my own that I like to do. It deals less in treasure, more in supplies, and some roleplaying. I set up in Port Merrick, with at least 2 Storage Crates, with all the high tier foods, chainshots, curseballs, etc, siphoning off the barrels in the Port as they refill. After filling them up with enough good stuff, I stash them in the stairway you open with the Pirate Legend Shanty, then wait for a ship to come by. This is the hard part: Being patient.
If and/or when a ship comes by, I use one of the campfires on the island as a smoke signal to get their attention. If they approach peacefully, I introduce myself as someone sent to deliver their order of supplies. I make up the details with what sounds good at the time. That's part of the fun of the roleplay. We walk to the Tavern, and I open up the stairway, explaining how it keeps the goods safe from the unintended recipient, or any attackers. Then I hand them the crates and give them a friendly farewell before walking off somewhere in the town, my experiment concluded successfully.
Love your commitment to this! Sounds awesome and a fun way to kill time if you have friends to wait with
It's really interesting to watch people play like this because whenever I play, I play like statler and walorf
Merry Christmas. I just got the game with two of my friends and were really begining to lose faith in the game because everyone we ran into was hostile and tried to sink us. Thanks for uploding this video. I think now there is going to be an even bigger percentage of ships on the high seas because everyone not toxic af is in safer seas. Its very annoying for a new player trying to get some gold to at least look cool. Thank you for inspiring me to continue playing.
Nice to see you posting again cliff! hope to see more videos!
Once I was hunting my last chest of legends to get the legendary thief title and a fotd was active, we went there and after an intense fight we sunk because the other sloop was amazing in both naval and combat. My friend left because he got a bit mad and didn't have time to play and I went back to say ggs before I left too, they welcomed me(first sunk my ship, thought they wanted to be sure) and after we talked for a while, I saw that they had triumphant sea dog ship, clothes, legendary curse and very rare cosmetics. They were so chill and nice guys that they offered to me to hop on their ship while they drive me to an outpost to steal/sell their chest to earn my title. A da sloop started chasing us because this guys were stacking but we managed to catch wind, we got to the outpost and they guarded me while I had the chest, the da sloop ambushed us and I almost died(we weren't in an alliance, if I died then I couldn't get revived) but I killed the last one. They were keeping the sloop off me while I was selling the chest. I felt like I was in a movie, sold it and we both said ggs, I thanked them and after we said our goodbyes they mermaid to their ship. IT WAS AMAZING, they made my day and made me love the game.
Update : My favourite and main title is still Legendary Thief and I hope it continues to be.
Note : this happened in s10
Sorry for writing a whole story, just wanted to come to the point that some people are toxic and some are not, always say ggs and be friendly.
@@VlegendV3168That's a great story!
@@borissimeonov9764 Sorry for the late reply, didn't know what to say at first, but thank you! It was an amazing memory that made my fall in love with the game more than I already was!🏴☠️
My siblings and I play SoT regularly right now since we all live in different places but we all enjoy video games, and this has turned out to be a blast for us. Getting together and sailing out to find treasure and complete the tall tales has been a lot of fun, but we are not exactly skilled or interested in PVP combat, and very much NOT interested in being harassed by other players while while trying to turn in our loot, so for a while we played on the Safer Seas to avoid that, until we found out that the game was _punishing_ us for not wanting to deal with other players by cutting our loot's value significantly, in turn making it tedious to raise our reputation with the trading companies enough to get more interesting voyages.
So we switched to sailing on the High Seas just to see how bad it was, and have found the experience to be mixed. We tend to be paranoid about watching for other players, especially when we have treasure on our ship to sell, and as soon as we see someone we tend to turn around and go the other way to avoid them. In general we actually don't see to many other players, and when we do see other player ships in the distance they are minding their own business. Generally just doing our best to avoid contact with other pirates. For the most part it is actually pretty peaceful, enough so that we stick to the High Seas now just to get more money out of our treasure.
We HAVE had a few incidents like coming up from a siren treasury to find our ship just plain gone (no big deal since our treasure was safe with the mermaids and we could just sail back to pick it up.), and that one particularly frustrating incident where we had just finished a vault and were trying to get all the treasure back on our ship when we got ambushed by another crew who blew up our ship with a gunpowder keg almost before we realized what was going on, costing us that whole voyage worth of loot and all the time we spent on it.
It has gotten to the point where we intentionally spend most of our time in Devil's Roar where almost no other players bother going, just to get a bit of privacy. It is no cakewalk, but I'd much rather brave the volcanoes and geysers than risk running into another player ship and losing all my hard earned loot because we just aren't experienced hard-core players who can actually hold our own in PvP combat.
All in all we haven't actually seen any 'toxic' behavior yet, and would probably just switch servers if we did. I fully understand that this is a game about _piracy_, so being assaulted by other players looking to sink our ship and steal our treasure is obviously to be expected sooner or later. I just wish the game didn't outright punish us for wanting to opt out of PvP and just enjoy the fun PvE experience.
PS, We DID have one confusing but welcome incident of what we jokingly called 'REVERSE pirating', where we came back from a siren treasury to find that someone had randomly left us a supply crate and rowboat, and then left without a trace. Thank you, whoever that was!
I love seeing stories with random crews it reminds me of the friends I made on the high seas so far playing the game for the first time
..all i have to say is that i tried for about 14 hours to find a lobby that wasn't full of toxic players who just want to grief me nonstop, i even used chat to say "hey, noob player here just trying to get a hang on the controls while doing a couple small quests (one was literally the first quest available to you after the main tutorial) and they just laughed, called me every possible slur in the book, and continued to kill me every single time i respawned for about 15 minutes until i left the game
Yo cliff, you were my most viewed twitch channel in 2023. Hope you had a happy holidays and have a happy new year.
Once i meet a 11yo kid who didn't know ANYTHING about SOT while i was fishing.
I did a full "adventure to get pirate legend" type of session with him.
It took 2 to 3 hours to try different quests with him but in the end he learned alot and was so greatful ! It was my best SOT experience !
After some days he wanted to play with me, but it was a good occasion to also learn him that i was 26yo and that he should be (wary?) of random people on the internet
I can say there are nice players in this game. I feel like I have meeting a ton of them recently and I have even replayed with them. It’s always very heartwarming to meet nice people on the seas
Back in the days of Flameheart yelling from the tops of islands, i remember encountering a brig full of young kids that had crashed on an island with a reaper chest. They didnt know where to hand it in and i didnt have the heart (or skill) to sink them so I escorted them to the Reapers Hideout so they could hand it in.
SoT is an absolute unpredictable game at the worst of times but we gotta help out the new swabbies!
Merry Christmas cliff! I love watching your videos everyday and it encourages me to play more! Have a nice and safe Christmas 😁👍
Nice to see my friend in this great video, Merry Christmas and keep up the good work👍
My very first day playing I had no idea what I was doing or where to go. I ended up running into a guy from the guild pooties crew and he immediately boarded my ship told me where to stack all of my crates and how to manage my sales. Then showed me how to alliance with him and then we went around doing world events together. He definitely showed me the ropes and made it a fun game for me and honestly if it weren't for that I probably wouldn't have kept playing. Point being there definitely cool people out there that aren't just there to smash you
Watching cliff always feels refreshing, usually if a player is toxic to the content creator the content creator shoots back with nastier words, but cliff just keeps playing the game. Cliff if you see this keep up the good work!
My friends and I return to the Seas tonight for the first time in 2/3 years. We played at launch and made legend even though we’re only okayish at pvp. No idea what to expect with other players, but still excited.
I’ve only played a few times, but everyone I played with was amazing! They were randoms and helped me get quite a lot of gold and fight off a megalodon. In the end we ended up in a huge war with other ships and I basically had no idea what was going on and was destroying our ship 😅 they were really nice and even though I messed up ALOT hooking onto megs and other ships + rocks they never got mad. The sea of thieves community is great in my opinion.
I had purchased this late 2020, I think? I went out on 3 or 4 voyages and got sunk or repeatedly killed on each one without ever being able to complete a quest, so I shelved it for awhile. I started watching more YT vids and my love of tall ships drew me back in this winter (2023). So far it's been pretty quiet and I've been able to learn the basics again: sailing around, and digging up so much sand I'm surprised the island doesn't sink. I've run into 2 folks, one was offshore while I was running around at an outpost, but they didn't do anything. Another came aboard my ship, ignored my voice chat (may not be working?) and sailed off with my ship - which I'm unsure if that has any meaning as there was nothing in it but general provisions? With these few interactions, I wouldn't call it toxic, just very PVP oriented lol. I'm actually looking forward to trying the Tall Tales.
I just started playing yesterday, waiting for my friends to be available I was flying solo and learning the ropes. I got crushed by a kraken after finding one chest and then jumped by Skeleton pirates. A man flew onto my ship to my rescue as I desperately was bucketing the water out and saved me from the skeletons. Him and his pals took me on for the night and we did a skeleton ship event and split all the loot. It was such a fantastic experience and I can’t wait to go back on the high seas because of it.
You know it’s a good day when cliff posts. (Happy holidays!)
New SoT player here. On my first solo outings in the high seas I ran into 3 different ships, all three different types. All of them turned out cool and one (the brigantine crew) helped me find something for a tall tale I was on plus got me an achievement by letting me steal a buried treasure map from their ship while showing me how to bury treasure so one of their crewmates could steal mine and get the same. All in all, a very positive experience and since then, there has been a couple crews that were trolls, but most of the players I have meet in the game were pretty cool, especially if you were doing tall tales.
thats actually quite cool to hear, I wish I can experience that one day lol. I am also a new player who just recently bought my own sloop ( playing with my friend ) and both of our experiences are basically that everyone is out to kill us, we tried running white flag on the ship and it didnt make a difference lol so we just had to dedicate a few hours on honing our PVP skills. as much as I hate getting rolled up on by enemy crews it does make the game more interesting and it breaks the monotony of just getting treasure and selling it. It would be nice being able to make friends with a random crew one day
@@streetrider1001 Its =definitely hit or miss. During community day, I got kegged and attacked way more then normal, but its a pirate day on a very popular day to play. That being said, after we got wrecked, we would dive to another server to see if one worked out well. Our last server, we found an alliance of 2 other sloops (we had picked up a couple friends and were on a galleon) and we managed to run one down and ask to join their alliance. They agreed and we finally had a server experiance with no serious threats. Ended up getting 1.5 mil gold with the alliance loot bonuses in less than 3 hours. It was so awesome to find the right server.
I ran into three ships. One small, two medium.
The small one attacked me immediately and almost sank me. My ship was almost fully submerged, but I managed to save it.
The second one was a medium in the War of the Sea of Thieves, who backed off upon seeing my ship.
The third was another medium that I was able to outrun, but was also trying to sink my ship.
Two out of three were toxic. The first guy followed from afar until I reached harbour... TWO HOURS LATER.
This game is designed around toxic players.
Safer Seas is literally half the game. People should not have to be forced to play a dumbed down version because toxic players are making it impossible for people to have fun.
One time I sailed right next to another ship and to try and communicate I wasn't going to attack them, I waved at them, and i just see them waving back. Amazing interaction 10/10
Another great movie Cliff, merry Christmas for all, and safe seas 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
One thing I should do again is Glitterbeard hideout runs. To help people get their beard. It was my best experience in SoT and would love for more people to experience it.
Sup clifffff!!!!!! Still been watching your videos and dang I see the cannel has grown a lot, congrats dude. Getting a new console for christmas! so I'll finally be able to play SoT again
I was grinding some shrines on the most recent community day, and I saw 2 new players on a sloop heading to the hunters call. I took my own sloop and chased them down to give them one of the siren gems I had because they could actually be sold to hunters call.
It may not be a lot but every time I end a session I try and give away all the supplies I have leftover to another player and this has lead to some of my favorite interactions in the game, from some new players getting really excited to a funny encounter where we set my ship on fire and played it a funeral march as it sank. I hate this game but man do I love this game.
awsome point made cliff thank you for your faith and will to prove the point of good
Content like this is always so heartwarming. Keep being the change we all need Cliff. I'll do the same.
9:47 that was one of the guys treasure maps you dug up in the ultimate treasure map video
I just watched this video but me and my crew went around last night "checking people for contraband" and then planting and leaving said "contraband" on their ship.
It was wonderful.
Very. I've tried doing all the "I just want to PvE" signals, and someone always harasses or tails my crew for the entire night.
I swear this game is getting almost as toxic as CoD or LoL
New player here. I always take my supplies to give to another player before I log out.
The majority shoot first, but there are a few open to dialogue. I'll keep trying to be nice though (within reason) ;)
"SeaJay of the Freudian Sloop"
Merry Christmas Cliff, ........peace!
I feel like I would love this game, I love watching it, but I wouldn’t know where to start. I also don’t have anyone to play it with. But yeah it’s very entertaining to watch Cliff
As a new player myself I recently found someone who not only helped me get loot for the rest of they day but also added me as a friend so every time he sees me online we can party up and get some loot, thanks to him I’m actually picking up the game quite well now
Love this idea, only contention I have is the premise that not being toxic means not engaging in PvP even with new players. I've fought dozens of crews that were extremely chill, even ended up teaming against a toxic galleon with a crew that stole a veil from me 20 minutes prior.
That is fine if you want PvP. Some players don't want to fight. They want to enjoy the PvE content in peace and have PvP thrust upon them by people who won't take no for an answer.
People who want to enjoy PvP should use their hourglass and leave players who don't want that alone.
@@karastern2167 I know this is probably bait, but I'm still obligated to respond.
The game is very, very intentionally designed from the ground up to be a PvPvE experience where you're never truly safe. The Reaper's Bones faction exists to encourage players to hunt down other ships and steal their loot, world events from their very conception were intended to attract players to compete over them, the very fact that weapons do damage to other players and that the High Seas mode warns you that you're entering a shared world should be proof enough of what the game's purpose is.
If you want to be safe and left alone, never engaging with PvP at all, that's what Safer Seas is for. People who want to be left alone should go to Safer Seas and let the PvPvE enjoyers play the game as intended.
Safer Seas is great and all. I really love that it is there and I have easily a dozen friends who abandoned the game due to constant harassment who are returning to lay it. I too will use it.
But I'm tired of everybody telling me all about how the game was designed to be PvP and if I don't like PvP (spoiler, I don't) I should find something else to play.
Why do they have all this lovely PvE content if one can't enjoy it in peace? i want to fight phantoms in forts and skellies on islands and on forts and in ships. I want to do siren shrines. i want to fish. i want to find lost shipwrecks and catch animals in cages . I want to fight megs and krakens. And I'd like to do all this fun stuff without constantly having to look over my shoulder. I want to do it without fearing I'll have my boat sunk while I'm on an island digging up treasure. I'd like to be able to leave the damn dock after I spawn in without some idiot sinking me just in order to frustrate me and make me unhappy. And I'd like to use my captained ship while doing it. Which I can't do on safer seas.
Everybody talks about the "rights" of people to enjoy their own "playstyles" if they want to go around sinking everybody in sight. But the playstyles of people who don't want to engage in PvP are not respected. I find this double standard objectionable.
Just use the damn hourglass if you want PvP. That's what it's there for.@@amethyst_dawn
@@karastern2167 I understand where you're coming from, but you're missing the point entirely. The game isn't designed to be PvP, it's PvPvE, and it is very, VERY transparent about it. I don't understand how you can't see that. You raise emissary and get a warning that those flags are valuable for other crews to steal, you do quests that are designed to bring you closer to other crews unless the option is unavailable. Fort of the Damned, World Events, Skull of Siren Song, all of these things exist outside of Hourglass but encourage PvP even though they are PvE events. Hell, Safer Seas being called *Safer Seas* and heavily nerfing rewards should tell you everything you need to know about what this game is intended to be, you are encouraged to join the shared world and engage in the adventure and peril that comes with it.
If you don't enjoy and refuse to engage in ANY form of PvP, you are intentionally being obtuse and ignoring an entire half of this game's design. Do you boot up God of War and expect it to play like Animal Crossing? Do you log into Genshin Impact and expect to have the same mechanics as Call of Duty? You've joined a game that has blatantly and openly explained what it is and how it's intended to be played, and now you're complaining because the game's core design doesn't suit YOUR preferences. You're not adapting how you play, you're not engaging with how the game is constructed, you're just whining about the game not suiting your specific tastes.
You're either playing the wrong game, or playing the game wrong.
@@amethyst_dawn See, I get the feeling you might be the sort of player I hear specifically plagues this game. I could be very wrong, and I hope I am, but you just give off that vibe...
Steal my loot. Steal my fish. Sink my ship. Go right ahead, its all good. Lets banter. Lets fight. Lets get drunk after. But stow the chatter and attitude about how others need to play or enjoy a game with so many more possibilities for fun, than just "I see ship, I shoot canons" / "I see player, I shoot gun". Some of my fondest and most interesting moments in this game so far was me soloing a fort, when a crew of 3 showed up. Rather than sink me, kill me and take the fort to themselves, we began bantering and agreed to split the spoils evenly. Teamed up. Got the loot. Got drunk together. Then split.
High Seas is apparently the "Noooooo we can't have that!!!11! they NEED to immediately open fire on you because pirates (apparently) kill other pirates on sight!" gamemode. And Safe Seas is the "Hahaha what a little baby you are. Go play there, but know you are ruining/killing the game for everyone else in doing so" gamemode.
PvP can be a lot of fun, but you even have dedicated gamemodes for it in game. Its more rewarding, more engaging and far more intuitive than scouring the map for beginner players or players just minding their own business - and deciding that "yep, heres my targets for the next couple of hours without end."
My first encounter with another crew was a group of rank five reapers that spoke my language. Now I occasionally play with them. Merry Christmas
i find it funny that me and 3 of my bros got 7 other people to join in a FOTD stacking plan just the other day, and it was successful i mean sure there was a lot of friendly fire but everyone was a good sport about it and ended with equal loot
I've been trying to accomplish something in-game for the past couple weeks, but I can't always get it to work. I complete a bunch of ashen athena quests to get hold of some chests of legends, take them to Dagger Tooth or Plunder, sail my boat far away and scuttle it 10-15 minutes later. Then I bury the loot and hide at the outpost for when a ship spawns. I tuck on it, and wait for them to go on an island, then I jump off their ship and pretend to be a poor soul lost at sea, asking them to take me back at the outpost in exchange for the treasure map.
Sometimes it’s just really hard to find a good pirate but when you do it’s amazing and makes the game so much more fun
I remember doing the siren song quest, and these players that were really nice to us so far and gave us a Christmas present stole our skull and then told us the siren song was being naughty, so they’d have to confiscate it. We tried going after them, but it was not to be. There weren’t any hard feelings, and we ended up starting an alliance lol.
miss your content, hope you can get to upload soon!
Always a good day when cliff uploads
Every time I loose hope for this games, Cliff single handedly re-store's it ♡
always happy when cliff uploads
Merry Christmas Cliff!!!
This video is excellent in the wake of the oppressive and controlling “pirate council” debacle. Thanks cliff for doing this video ✨🙌🏼
Man the only time I met a friendly ship is when im on a brig or galleon i have never encountered a friendly person while solo slooping
Damn you really found the BEST guy for the experiment. An Arena player that was beyond charitable, the direct opposite of the stereotype
You’re finally back! Yay!
never mind. You hadn’t shown up in my reccomended for a while.
What an absolute chad to run across. I love being nice to players, but man, he was super friendly.
Only been playing about 6 weeks and our only rule is we don’t attack rental boats, unless they shoot first of course 🙂 and we’re always friendly to people who initiate an actual conversation. By far the worst experience we had was some guy that took our boat and sounded really angry and cursed a bunch, was really disturbing what he said, but that was once out of about 50 hours
Merry Merry Cliff. Thanks for all the good ass stories :)
My first experience with sea of thieves was like that. I just finished training and was thrown to open world first thing which I experienced was a toxic guys whom sink my ship at port and yelled some toxic staff on me, so nothing will change my mind about this game now.
I've been playing for about three weeks now and have yet to meet anyone willing to talk. Cannons do the talking for them. Especially frustrating when a) I'm on a Tall Tale adventure and b) when people just sink me and don't even bother to rob me. This happens fairly frequently. I don't know anyone else who plays so I'm a solo sloop guy. Love the game but I'm not sure I'll keep playing if this is the norm. On a friendly note, I always leave all of my supplies at an outpost when logging off.
Whenever I meet another player I never fire first, I always try to be friendly and raise an allience as I not only just prefer those smaller moments but it also is just more financially beneficial for everyone involved
I've met some great people in this game. I have some great stories. Still, for every story of a great time I have had with people I've just randomly met, I have 5 stories of being bullied and laughed at. Most recently, I was just pulling away from an outpost after spawning in when I was attacked by a galley. They saw me pull away from the spawn point. I told them I had no treasure worth stealing. They laughed and said they knew that, they just wanted to sink me. Totally toxic.
It can be both... a while ago i hopped back in with a new friend.. we went on a brig but the third guy didnt showed up... i was ready to get mad... we met another brig but they agreed to an alliance and we hopped on their ship... we saw a sloop and decisded to sink it. When we arrived i waited for our mates to shoot first and they also waited... without communication we decided to team up with them as well 😅 the joined our alliance and shortly after we saw another sloop fighting with skellies and we helped them so they also joined our alliance... we had some fun with more skellies, everyone did their own thing till we randomly met again and decided to do glitterbeard ❤ my friend understand more and more how special this day was 😅
Honestly for me the pretty much every crew that attacks me is a brig. The sloops either need help or they try to chase me and give up or just alliance and the galleons either run away or adopt me. The only times a brig hasn’t attacked me is when they’re doing a tall tale
I’m actually a new player , started playing around 5 days ago and I’ve met 2 crews already that have been very nice and gave me a lot of instruction on how to get coins . One crew took about 3 hours to help me and the other took about 5 hours to help me get more coins and teach me how to shoot canons , using the boat in fights with skeleton ships and other players. I’m super grateful for them because it’s helped me get loads of more coins . I was getting like 5k a day now I’m getting like 30k , it makes the game more fun when ppl go out of their way to help instead of griefing you for no reason
i was confused for a minute thought i had already seen this video but than i remembered i watched the stream
I’ve just started playing the game recently. My experience is that the game isn’t necessarily toxic, but that the way it’s designed encourages you to assume all players will be hostile.
My first ever PVP encounter happened after sailing to a skeleton fleet. My crewmate and I saw a player sloop fighting a skele galleon, so we sailed over and opened fire on the galleon, intending to help out.
The sloop was not as friendly as we expected and we were boarded and sunk rather quickly. After the fight, we realized that nobody good at the game is going to alliance with you because that just means less loot.
The game taught us to shoot first and ask questions later. In summary, it’s not the commit that’s toxic, it’s piracy. You kind of have to expect that in the pirate game.
In summary, it’s not the *community* that’s toxic, it’s piracy.
Ty for prewritten subtitles!
Way ahead of you recently (while finishing a skull of siren song) a sloop came to me saying he was looking to discover the game
So I decided to gave him the quest for the breath of the sea and while going for the ancient tears we’ve met a sloop that joined us.
We did the shrine tried to cut the profit and start a fotd then left without saying goodbye and ended up selling all the loot by myself
Man, wish i could meet some friendly people while playing. Even as a newish player im taken out multiple times by groups on brigs and galleons who rather sink a solo slooper with little to no loot on board
i guess its just my regions players that pursues and attacks anyone on sight
worst i've had was where we were going back to bring the shroudbreaker to the ghost guy and a sloop appeared out of nowhere and just mercilessly destroyed us even when we didnt have anything other than the shroudbreaker and even when i politely asked to just be left alone and finish the long tale but no they just spammed rolling on deck laughing voice command and spammed ez
Idea: do the new message in a bottle quests in a row boat and see how much you can make.
From my first day on Sea of Thieves I've always helped people who need it. No matter if they're new or old.
Simply put even the most battle hardened, day 1 pvper may have trouble when it comes to fishing, or shrines, or the thrones if they missed out on those aspects of the game. It's totally unreasonable to expect anybody to know everything and sometimes people will reach out. For those situations it's important to make them a good experience.
New or old nobody is infallible.
Rare broke the loot reset in sea Forts, for vault stacking. Nice to know. :)
Ironically, since Safer Seas came out, I haven't encountered a single toxic ship in days. It is wonderful. Although I haven't found many experienced crews either sadly...
i AM a new player with my three other friends and when i played last night we ran into someone at an island. they allied with us and helped us make a ton of money. they were really friendly actually it was a fun time. i have been attacked but ive not really been treated poorly and most people when they learned i was new after defeating me left me alone after. they didnt really know i was new.
I feel like I remember when you were closing in on 100k subs. Now look at you go Cliff.
Honestly? This was a really sweet video. I do think that people should try this more often.
Merry Christmas cliff!