Need for Speed: Undercover - Retrospective

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  • @marquaviouschester6947
    @marquaviouschester6947 Рік тому +450

    "the police are comically large"
    says the guy driving the smallest car in the game

    • @Halagini
      @Halagini Рік тому +8

      Tru lol. Drive the Elise in MC3 versus SUVs and it looks comically small.

    • @NaruSanavai
      @NaruSanavai 8 місяців тому +9

      @@Halagini I mean, the Elise (and Lotuses, in general) are pretty small. Like, if you're above 5'7" - good luck getting in and out of one.

    • @dmer-zy3rb
      @dmer-zy3rb 5 місяців тому +2

      my wife says the Elise is average sized though and generally the size isnt important 😢

    • @eddieru
      @eddieru 3 місяці тому

      @@NaruSanavaii know of a guy who’s 6’2 and he fits in elise’s better than miata’s

  • @hawken796
    @hawken796 Рік тому +829

    This game suffered through development hell. This game was originally called nfs the chase and was planned around a month before most wanted shipped. The original plan was to make a sequel to most wanted and then make the chase, but their forced yearly schedule tied their hands and prostreet was the filler game in between so the main team could finish the chase. During that time, blackbox was also working on NBA Playgrounds and Skate, so they were crunched pretty hard. That's the main reason this game is the way it is. Also, the story was originally supposed to have branching choices and multiple endings, but since they had to rush the game out, they just used whatever material they finished and called it a day. This really could have been the greatest nfs game if they had more time to finish it.

    • @luisortega8085
      @luisortega8085 Рік тому +161

      didnt they also have to develop carbon and prostreet at the same time
      god i hate ea

    • @mikblues_146
      @mikblues_146 Рік тому +87

      @@luisortega8085 Yeah that's why Carbon is so damn slow and Prostreet is buggy as hell

    • @lordeilluminati
      @lordeilluminati Рік тому +75

      @@mikblues_146 ProStreet is very buggy if you play the PS2 version. I played the other versions and they are nowhere near as problematic.

    • @hawken796
      @hawken796 Рік тому +55

      ​@@luisortega8085 yeah at that time, EA was awful due to their old CEO. I feel like they've been better lately

    • @luisortega8085
      @luisortega8085 Рік тому +13

      @@hawken796 i wish carbon and undercover got remade, also nfs mw 2012

  • @unreallincoln
    @unreallincoln Рік тому +519

    "If I didn't care about having fun I wouldn't play need for speed, I'd play Forza" killed me lmaooooooooooo

    • @brawler5760
      @brawler5760 Рік тому +14

      At least I can have SOME fun with Forza man…

    • @StarlightLancer01
      @StarlightLancer01 Рік тому +93

      Until you remember that Forza Horizon is basically a watered down, non-progressive Test Drive Unlimited lmao

    • @AD720P-Lf
      @AD720P-Lf Рік тому +14

      I played Forza horizon...and it's broring if you don't have a steering wheel or play with friends.

    • @Generationalwealth94
      @Generationalwealth94 Рік тому +18

      ​@@AD720P-Lf Forza Horizon 3 is a hell of a lot more fun than NFS games LMAO Beautiful map, city, atmosphere.

    • @MerrillDragonAge
      @MerrillDragonAge Рік тому +3

      buut i liek fortza 🥺

  • @soyunmanco4701
    @soyunmanco4701 Рік тому +1556

    The game was fun but once you grow up it's like all the fun things are gone and the only thing left is suffering.

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +297

      just remember that, if the game came out only a few years later, it is a 100% fact that Pitbull would have been all over the soundtrack. we narrowly avoided disaster

    • @joeydiedrich
      @joeydiedrich Рік тому +102

      You've unintentionally just described living tbh

    • @SchizoidRambler
      @SchizoidRambler Рік тому +30

      ​@@joeydiedrich so what you're saying is nfs undercover is life

    • @iamFastYY
      @iamFastYY Рік тому +16

      ​@Poizonous God if life identifies as nfs, than yes.

    • @gunman8452
      @gunman8452 Рік тому +9

      @@SchizoidRambler Truly the game of life

  • @gunman8452
    @gunman8452 Рік тому +464

    Undercover has many flaws, but one thing it excelled at was the soundtrack, especially the garage music. To this day the garage music is peak NFS imo

    • @ralphlorenzperolino3054
      @ralphlorenzperolino3054 Рік тому +80

      I have to say that Black Box did it right about the Busted scenes. They we're brutal as hell. Especially when that one cop throws you a Dunkin' Donut.

    • @pardolagames8994
      @pardolagames8994 Рік тому +38

      As a Pendulum fan, I agree

    • @Maximus6G
      @Maximus6G Рік тому +9

      Blackbox always chose the best music to fit their NFS games. Too bad Undercover wasn't that great itself.

    • @nikobellic3526
      @nikobellic3526 Рік тому +17

      ​@@pardolagames8994 I STILL FEEL LIKE HOME IS IN.......YOUR ARMSSSSS

    • @pardolagames8994
      @pardolagames8994 Рік тому +14

      @@nikobellic3526 JOIN THE CIRCUS OF PEOPLE

  • @cinimini4854
    @cinimini4854 Рік тому +761

    No matter how screwed up this game is, it was my Need For Speed while growing up and I will forever cherish it

    • @Jubejabba
      @Jubejabba Рік тому +16

      Same! I traded my copy on 360 for Red dead redemption when i was a kid, still regret it

    • @Hydraboss343
      @Hydraboss343 Рік тому +17

      Same i played it on the ps3 and i remember having a great time. Today i found it after many years and am currently playing it it is good

    • @tone-xl6me
      @tone-xl6me Рік тому +11

      ​@@JubejabbaNah, Rdr1 is fucking beautiful. Probably the best open world ever to be released aside from elderscroll games.

    • @laszlonagy02
      @laszlonagy02 Рік тому +1

      Same

    • @JounChef
      @JounChef Рік тому +4

      ​@@Jubejabbacan't regret ever trading it for Red Dead Redemption, I won't even regret trading any NFS game for it

  • @elios7623
    @elios7623 Рік тому +103

    i never get tired of the speedtrap bit lmfao it gets better with every upload

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +26

      lmfao I got a serious kick out of acting like I was forced to do it this time. acting like "sorry, I wish I didn't have to, but my hands are tied."

    • @elios7623
      @elios7623 Рік тому +1

      @@mitchelldiedrich deadass

    • @DripTitan6988
      @DripTitan6988 Рік тому +5

      I love how the echo gets more intense each time

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +16

      @@DripTitan6988 it's gonna be muddled garbage soon if I keep it up lol

    • @janosd4nuke
      @janosd4nuke Рік тому

      Once you go undercover, running gag eats you.

  • @ileutur6863
    @ileutur6863 Рік тому +246

    Undercover is actually an amazing example of how important the choice of game engine. Think about it, Undercover has the exact same mechanics and gameplay elements as the most successful NFS games. On paper its a copy paste success, but because of the ridiculous stiff handling it ends up being a mess

    • @HulluJanne
      @HulluJanne Рік тому +28

      Wasn't the "handling model" called something like "Heroic" or something? It was printed on the box where they hyped it up. I remember feeling like, "hopefully it's not too arcade compared to ProStreet"... The hype text gave me a feeling that they wanted to steer clear from the ProStreet's more mellow and weighty feel.

    • @eniweii
      @eniweii Рік тому +17

      No the handling on undercover is based on prostreet. Mw and carbon have totally different handling physics.

    • @divinehatred6021
      @divinehatred6021 Рік тому +5

      Its like a worsened version of prostreet with almost of all of assists turned on and buffed, pro street is the best on pc if you turn all the assists off

    • @deividaspetrauskas3768
      @deividaspetrauskas3768 Рік тому +1

      man this is game is still amazing

    • @divinehatred6021
      @divinehatred6021 Рік тому +1

      @@HulluJanne also prosteet unironically does have the best handling in series except shift 2 which is not even an NFS

  • @PgIsBoss
    @PgIsBoss Рік тому +201

    Them arrest scenes 🤣

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +110

      the doughnut throw makes me laugh every single time.

    • @NarranSkigianProductions
      @NarranSkigianProductions Рік тому +5

      😂😂😂😆

    • @PgIsBoss
      @PgIsBoss Рік тому +8

      @@mitchelldiedrichhahaha I love how violent the police get but yes the doughnut scene finished me off!

    • @RandomCarfromNFS
      @RandomCarfromNFS Рік тому +3

      @@mitchelldiedrich you missed the one where they kick the player in the head

    • @VaticalliX
      @VaticalliX Рік тому +6

      those cops in the arrest scenes were clearly the stunt doubles that were tapped instead of the actual actors 🤣

  • @andrewrogers3067
    @andrewrogers3067 Рік тому +464

    Worst part is? It had potentially to be incredible. The idea of you being an undercover cop and hunting other races and blending in sounds incredible.
    They literally could have copy pasted NFS Carbon and improved some aspects as well as whatever the fuck was going on in the story.

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +60

      Totally agree with you. Awesome idea but an absolute bag fumble. I just don't understand why they felt the need to fuck with the handling model.

    • @NoisR
      @NoisR Рік тому +9

      Thats the worst part for so many games from recent years. Sooo many games that had so much potential... just look at fh4/5. And i still dont understand why we havent gotten an nfs underground 3 yet thats literally what so many people want night time, open world, street races, tuning etc

    • @shira_yone
      @shira_yone Рік тому +7

      I don't know, I feel like MW'05 is practically UC but executed better in almost every way. You not knowing that you helped an undercover cop even enhances the story a bit, and the story for the most part makes sense. UC is just "this happens _and then_ this happens" with no logic nor rhyme and there's no salvaging it.

    • @andrewrogers3067
      @andrewrogers3067 Рік тому +15

      @@shira_yone MW has a major hole in that literally EVERYBODY saw the twist with Mia coming if you saw the cutscenes
      The only way that could have been interesting is if you the player were actually a reformed undercover cop. Now THAT would have been interesting.

    • @shira_yone
      @shira_yone Рік тому +5

      @@andrewrogers3067 maybe it's just me but I don't really get what is so interesting about playing an undercover cop, especially as it pertains to gameplay. Rival/racer takedowns, transporter jobs, escort/tailing missions, etc, are some of my least favorite thing to do in a street racing game.
      Btw if you want that _"working undercover to bust down some racers and organization"_ street racing game fix, I actually recommend The Crew 1. It's practically UC if done a bit more competently with 10 times the content + variety and map size.

  • @rlfpotatoking9253
    @rlfpotatoking9253 Рік тому +59

    you forgot to mention one crazy thing about the handling and physics. If you use nitrous when turning into a corner, you can achieve insane levels of grip that your car will turn like some rollercoaster ride, and this applies for ALL cars in the game as long as they have nitrous. They messed up the handling big time, I'm guessing its because they used the NFS ProStreet car handling and tried to make it more arcade, when they could have just taken the handling model from NFS MW or Carbon.

    • @linkskywalker5417
      @linkskywalker5417 Рік тому +1

      Even if they didn't do that for the 7th gen consoles and PC, they could've done so for Wii and PS2.

    • @_Sylens
      @_Sylens Рік тому

      Bro that happens in unbound

    • @TheCapitalWanderer
      @TheCapitalWanderer 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@_Sylensdifferent, Burst Nitrous is it's own mechanic, this one isn't.

    • @clarkdsaf
      @clarkdsaf 9 місяців тому +1

      Also, letting off throttle while turning gives you insane amount of grip too..

    • @racdude01
      @racdude01 7 місяців тому +1

      @@clarkdsaflol so either let of the gas or hit the NOS to turn, makes sense lol😂

  • @szybkiwojtas7895
    @szybkiwojtas7895 Рік тому +32

    4:57 It's because both Pro Street and Undercover were developed simultaneously, so Undercover was kinda a rushed game.

  • @noice6421
    @noice6421 Рік тому +51

    If I'm not mistaking, prostreet was made by a small team and it was in the process of making at the same time as undercover, and undercover was made by a different big team. So it is even worse.

  • @elperrodelautumo7511
    @elperrodelautumo7511 Рік тому +53

    They could’ve been more focused on the criminal scene of the racing culture. Like maybe more deeper into the crime scenes. Also they could’ve used the busted cutscenes in which Q T E could be used to decide if you get busted by the cops or you steal a cop car and continue the police chase.

  • @mitchelldiedrich
    @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +19

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    Point of clarification: the checkpoint races are NOT as I've described in this video. The checkpoint races are extensions of the checkpoint/tollbooth races from the previous games. I over committed to the bit and gave myself tunnel vision.
    I'm really happy with how this one turned out. Obviously, I can always improve, and I'm always *extremely* interested in feedback on what I'm doing well and where I'm lacking, but I feel that this video suggests an upward trajectory.
    While I don't agree with the thesis, here is a very well made video (that I very much enjoyed) about the game. Show it some love. ua-cam.com/video/VFI4UuRue1g/v-deo.html

    • @VaticalliX
      @VaticalliX Рік тому +1

      joined the server =)

    • @StudioCorpse
      @StudioCorpse Рік тому

      As much as I love long running jokes over the course of many videos but the "I'll refer to myself" joke just isn't landing here because your cutaway goes on too long as you explained the same racing event 4 times. It would land better if you said "I won't explain this event type in this video, I'll refer to my pro street video for it > You know what, I'll refer to my Carbon video... > Actually I'll just refer to my Most Wanted video".
      I get the set up was "I don't care about your time" but besides wasting time, it kills the overall flow and quality of the video.
      Other than that, it's a pretty solid video

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +1

      @@StudioCorpse this is G O O D feedback. might steal this if I don't give up on the bit entirely

  • @Xvhalk3rieX
    @Xvhalk3rieX Рік тому +39

    Even as a pre teen playing this game there were parts of this game that I remember being stuck on for weeks.

    • @SlothF004
      @SlothF004 7 місяців тому +1

      got it all completed in a single weekend. Didn't even play much, game was easy as hell.

  • @callme_astro2111
    @callme_astro2111 Рік тому +21

    "Comically large cop cars"
    Is in the lotus, the smallest model car in the game lmao

  • @TheBoostedDoge
    @TheBoostedDoge Рік тому +88

    it's a terrible game but man, the garage music is absolute gold

  • @WarzoneXProductions
    @WarzoneXProductions Рік тому +50

    I didn’t know much about game development, but even my 8 year old self knew at the time that something was seriously wrong with Undercover. Especially after playing it’s previous entries to completion

  • @16BitGamerCat
    @16BitGamerCat Рік тому +12

    "You'll eat whatever i make, and you won't leave the table until you do."
    WATCH ME.
    *closes tab and labels video "not interested"*

    • @hosaint4970
      @hosaint4970 Місяць тому +1

      dude hates to race in a racing game, says it's the same thing as other nfs games! what do u expect?

  • @CS_Uravity_PRO
    @CS_Uravity_PRO Рік тому +40

    Apparently BlackBox had to develop this in like 8 months time and with half of the team only. Yeah that was expected.
    You should try project Reformed for UC, fixes all the Graphical/Performance/Physics issues. It amps the game from bad to decent or even good if you ignore the story

  • @Soapetr394
    @Soapetr394 Рік тому +9

    All the budget of the game went into making the “busted” cutscenes😹

  • @yorrickwi
    @yorrickwi Рік тому +44

    carmen is the singer of the kim possible theme song

  • @TheOfficialRamVenkatakrishnan
    @TheOfficialRamVenkatakrishnan Рік тому +18

    this game helped ME a lot personally, I was on vacation in the US and had no friends since I was only there for a month, and this game was really FUN, I loved the cheesy cut scenes and grinded the story to see every single one. I remember seeing the opening cutscene almost 50 times because the game kept crashing on my laptop haha. The game ran at I think 20-30 FPS max since I didn't know about graphic settings back then. and I got nearly every car! it was a fun game for kids haha. going back to it, it was WAY easier to see through the graphical problems since I mostly thought it was my laptop, but it was unfortunately overall a poorly optimized game .

  • @marianpopa463
    @marianpopa463 Рік тому +13

    There is a mod called Project Reformed that actually changes the game, making the game very good.

  • @playbossthebest936
    @playbossthebest936 Рік тому +19

    Sooooo... This was done in around 6 months of actual development, right? That's not pretty. It's even worse when you realize that rivals had a comparable dev time and, glitches aside (but even then they're greatly reduced on console), it's a rather polished and complete game in comparison

    • @halmget3198
      @halmget3198 Рік тому +13

      They were working on 3 games in that 6 months of time btw

    • @playbossthebest936
      @playbossthebest936 Рік тому +6

      @@halmget3198 yeah, true. The team was also divided into 2 to manage that iirc

    • @Manstam
      @Manstam 2 місяці тому

      rivals had around 16 months.

    • @playbossthebest936
      @playbossthebest936 2 місяці тому

      @@Manstam can I see where that's stated?

    • @Manstam
      @Manstam 2 місяці тому +2

      @@playbossthebest936 only if you tell me where it was said that it was developed in 6 months

  • @VaticalliX
    @VaticalliX Рік тому +30

    I'm glad I have yet to play this
    on an unrelated note, I loved this as well as your other Need For Speed retrospectives; they got me into playing them

  • @LowercaseLambda
    @LowercaseLambda Рік тому +15

    I don’t say many good things about Undercover, but if there’s one good thing about it that I can immediately point out is obviously the soundtrack, more specifically the garage music and atmosphere. UC might have been a train wreck, but I honestly believe that the game’s garage might actually be one of the greatest things spawned for NFS ever. There is simply no other NFS game let alone racing game that matches the sheer *vibes* this game’s garage gave. Although many people including me say this game is super-forgettable, one thing about this game that I could never get out of my head in a good way is the absolutely genius music curation and design of the garage. That one single gap in the garage that lets the light in is so simple, yet so effective in giving the garage this ethereal atmosphere that no other racing game let alone ANY video game in general has given me. You think I’m done? I haven’t even mentioned the best part. What do you get when you combine the ethereal atmosphere created by that ray of light with the unrivaled genius of the song selection? You get what I would dare call the greatest video game menu of all time. When I see a picture of this game’s garage I think of songs like “Scuba (Amon Tobin Remix)”, “To Heal”, “The Mark Has Been Made”, “Indigo Children (JLE Dub Mix)”, and “Shunt”. When I think of those songs, I think of UC’s garage. It’s this aspect of UC that sometimes makes me forget that this game absolutely blows. Safe to say that the sound team at Black Box were *cooking* when they were setting up the feel of the garage. Shame that they didn’t get the time they needed to make this game what it deserved to be; a masterpiece.

  • @strider029
    @strider029 Рік тому +12

    The game was actually Black Box's reattempt to make something like Most Wanted again (their previous rellease 'Pro Street' was a sales failure), but ended up failing this one aswell (the game felt rushed to be honest).

    • @theonlyplain
      @theonlyplain 27 днів тому +1

      sucks that pro street was a failure because it was so good, its like the fallout new vegas of racing game

  • @vcp2077
    @vcp2077 Рік тому +18

    You get more rep/skills if you dominate the event and driver skills somewhat alleviate some of the handling issues.
    And the word you are looking for when you mentioned that the handling is weird, is that the handling model doesn't suit the city and the map.

  • @shariqhasan6220
    @shariqhasan6220 Рік тому +7

    So in a nutshell, this game has the same plot as the first Fast and Furious movie.

  • @LuciusVulpes
    @LuciusVulpes Рік тому +27

    This game holds a very weird place in my head. I still own the CD and the box, yet I don't remember jack shit from it. It's so garbage my mind erased it from my memory.

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +17

      it's weird asf how forgettable it is. obvs I harped on it pretty aggressively, but it wasn't the worst game I've ever played (not even the worst racing game). there ought to be something that sticks out, but there really isn't.

  • @Queek_Headtaker
    @Queek_Headtaker Рік тому +37

    As a kid, I played a weird pirated version of the game that had absolutely no cutscenes in it. It was honestly much better that way, trying to imagine my own plot connecting all those story missions together. I also remember being disappointed by all the cop cars being so plastic compared to MW and Carbon's more or less realistic damage. That said, it's still one of my favourite games because of it weaving story missions and racing together, probably why I enjoyed Payback as well.

    • @mcslater_5281
      @mcslater_5281 Рік тому

      Yeah I Too, No Cutscenes No Soundtracks ,One Engine Sound For All Cars, Sudden Game Crash On Mission TAKING ZACK MAIO.

    • @alrecks619
      @alrecks619 Рік тому +6

      pirated versions tends to cut back on the game sizes (oftentimes deleting cutscenes) so they can make more of them with CDs rather than having less with DVDs (which also consequentially means easier to download for countries that have bad internet connection) so there is that.

  • @RDGamer321
    @RDGamer321 Рік тому +9

    In regards to the race with Rose, I think it is implied that Nickel cut the brake lines on the player car. He and Rose are seen together a lot when you are building your reputation with G-Mac and it does kind of seem like Rose starts taking a liking to the player, so Nickel attempts to derail the possibility of Rose falling for the player, he also is the most likely to do such an action given his criminal history.

  • @adrishmajumder9878
    @adrishmajumder9878 Рік тому +20

    honestly, when I played the game back in 2010, i was utterly disappointed by the horrific graphics, broken simulation, delusional camera angles, etc. etc. etc. so much wrong here.
    Honestly, NFS undercover was a steaming pile of garbage.
    However, I still hold my regard that NFS Undercover could've been so damn good. It had utmost potential to become one of the best street racing games of all time but EA does what they do best. Fuck things up.
    Also, its so astonishing to realize that in the same year they released Burnout Paradise and lets be honest, thats one damn good looking game.

    • @osopena3979
      @osopena3979 Рік тому

      Paradise is still looking good AF on my PC compared to the hd version I remember when I first played it on 360.

    • @adrishmajumder9878
      @adrishmajumder9878 Рік тому

      @@osopena3979 😅😅i also downloaded the original today as well.

    • @osopena3979
      @osopena3979 Рік тому +2

      Paradise wasn't built by the same team as nfs is being built with now. Criterion was still doing their own thing at that time

  • @Tiltzy
    @Tiltzy Місяць тому +1

    3:09 was extremely trippy hahaha I was like "When did Razor have THIS much dialogue in that game??" and then I realized.. Hahah

  • @skyline2601
    @skyline2601 Рік тому +6

    3:02 literal nightmare fuel

  • @achmadsyariefhidayatullaha4643

    in Undercover, he refers to ProStreet when in that video he refers to Carbon when also in that video he refers to Most Wanted

  • @kalsder
    @kalsder Рік тому +20

    I don’t think it was their intention to make the mechanic job out to be a lesser profession by revealing she’s gonna be a doctor.
    They probably just wanted to highlight the fact that she’s different from all the racers the player is fighting against all game by showing her pursuing a non criminal career.
    Other than that great video 👌🏻

    • @mostafamagdy7117
      @mostafamagdy7117 Рік тому +1

      The real question is how does a med student find time to be a mechanic

    • @janosd4nuke
      @janosd4nuke Рік тому +6

      @@mostafamagdy7117
      Hollywood rose tinted rags to riches logic:
      Sweet girl from the hood, meant for more. She has a passion for tinkering with cars, can hustle and make ends meet from that until she studies, gets a real career and breaks out from the slums. Pretty unrealistic, but at least inspiriational.
      Granted still looks down on the mechanic profession, but not on Carmen. And this is my reading. It's not about mending the 'prize' as her not being good enough, but giving her agency showing she is striving for more. Fast and botched, but I can see a good message behind it.

    • @gergoretvari6373
      @gergoretvari6373 Рік тому +3

      this dude complaining about that is insufferable

    • @Halagini
      @Halagini Рік тому +4

      @@gergoretvari6373 Ye, it was so bad. I've never seen p*lit1cs hamfisted in a video more jarringly. Everything he said made absolutely no sense whatsoever in any way.

    • @gergoretvari6373
      @gergoretvari6373 Рік тому +1

      @@Halagini imagine if Mauler did a response video to him

  • @thatmemeguy6487
    @thatmemeguy6487 8 місяців тому +4

    Even if it was terrible, the getting busted cutscenes are my favourite out of any games ever

  • @SylvieCanuck
    @SylvieCanuck Рік тому +8

    I remember playing this on the PS2 and it being an absolute dumpster fire. Your experience of not being able to beat something on many repeated attemps, only to come back to it a month later and easily beat it is nothing new to me. I didn't even make it to the end of the story because I lost so much interest in it. I dumped the game and went back to NFS Underground 2, Most Wanted, and Carbon for the arcadey racing.

  • @LuciusVulpes
    @LuciusVulpes Рік тому +11

    babe wake up, Mitchell Diedrich just uploaded a new NFS review

  • @bryanvonstase6755
    @bryanvonstase6755 Рік тому +7

    3:02 I LOST MY SH1T! HAHAAHAHHA. It was like RAZOR by BALENCIAGA.

  • @alifnaufalmaulana6156
    @alifnaufalmaulana6156 Рік тому +4

    Tbh the PS2 version looks more stable than the PC and PS3 ones. Idk why but I found the PS2 version is way better despite being an unfinished PS3 version. And one thing that I like. The lighting is better and not blinding my eyes

    • @lordeilluminati
      @lordeilluminati Рік тому +1

      yes, as far as I am aware, the HD version is slightly more stable on the 360. On PC and PS3 it crashes a lot.
      The SD version (PS2 and Wii) works fine without game breaking glitches like PC and PS3 but it doesnt mean it is a good game either.

  • @Jo3man96
    @Jo3man96 5 місяців тому +2

    When I played this when it first came out, back when I was 12/13 (so 2008/2009), I used my Mom’s credit card to get the Bugatti Veyron as quick as possible. I got grounded for 6 months, which was reduced to 6 weeks for good behaviour, which worked, cus I didn’t do anything as stupid again.
    Anywho, when I got my xbox back, I played the game with the Veyron for all of 5 mins before I decided I didn’t like it and went back to Forza Motorsport and what was probably CoD WaW at the time, shortly before I switched to Battlefield.

  • @vapno92
    @vapno92 Рік тому +11

    Seriously, when You showed footage from Underground 2, I was like "Man that looks so much better"... And it does. Not like "it almost looks better", it genuinely looks better, period.

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +5

      It's wild cause it's not just the awful effects that cause the difference. When you look at the parts of the video where I turned off the effects, it's still much worse than NFSU2.

    • @vapno92
      @vapno92 Рік тому

      @@mitchelldiedrich Seriously, this thing LITERALLY looks like a very early PS2 game upscaled in emulator.

    • @ventilo1825
      @ventilo1825 Рік тому +5

      Even Hot Pursuit 2 looked better in 2002 lol

    • @vapno92
      @vapno92 Рік тому +5

      @@ventilo1825 Basically, take Hot Pursuit 2, upscale it, add disgusting piss filter, extensive motion blur, heavy bloom, turn your camera's exposition way up and You have Undercover basically. And I'm not even sure about it, since Hot Pursuit 2 have more detailed enviroment, than this shit.

  • @grmm6845
    @grmm6845 Рік тому +5

    I loved this game back in the 360 days, haven't played it in years, but I can't imagine it aged well. I do remember a few issues

  • @Lulnateee
    @Lulnateee Рік тому +5

    No lie I actually loved this game, yea it’s glitchy & the graphics are kinda shitty & so is the story but i just absolutely love it

    • @thesuperiorgolem5357
      @thesuperiorgolem5357 Рік тому +1

      I think the car list was perfect and its just the last mw 05 and carbon style nfs which is why I like it.

    • @RickyGGaming_TX
      @RickyGGaming_TX 5 місяців тому

      I have the similar appeal to Driv3r.

  • @303sebas3
    @303sebas3 Рік тому +34

    played the PS2 version as a kid, didn’t know how different the gameplay was from other consoles 🤔
    but it was always good stupid fun going 300 in a ccx sending cop cars flying 😂 good times

    • @santerihaataja1624
      @santerihaataja1624 Рік тому +6

      Yeah, i did also palyed the ps2 version so i thought it would be fun to play on pc,
      So i download undercover for pc later and i was suprised how different and bad the game is😢😂

    • @DMCdantenero112
      @DMCdantenero112 Рік тому +4

      I played the PSP version as a kid, and I loved it. I had no idea the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions were so much worse.

    • @Mrrizzzzin-vc6np
      @Mrrizzzzin-vc6np Рік тому +5

      I loved the PS2 version. But when I upgraded to the PS3 I hated it

    • @Random-vp3rv
      @Random-vp3rv Рік тому +2

      The ps2 2008 version is way different then the 2011 ps3 version. I did the same thing. Had a ps2, upgraded to a ps3 got what I thought was the same game and it turned out to be the 2011 trash. I have very fond memories of the ps2 version it was amazing.

    • @dimitris.4484
      @dimitris.4484 8 місяців тому

      Actually ps2 version sucks.

  • @RandomCarfromNFS
    @RandomCarfromNFS Рік тому +8

    3:02 💀

  • @ChrisPBolsak
    @ChrisPBolsak Рік тому +15

    The physics of Underground always reminded me of a mash-up of not the best, not the worst, but the most lukewarm physics choices from Most Wanted, Burnout, and ProStreet.

  • @Brave-Octopus
    @Brave-Octopus Рік тому +5

    I loved this game when it came out. But I was 13. Looking back and then replaying it I'm sitting here like "wow I had had shit taste." The music though is still good.

  • @shuddafukkup
    @shuddafukkup 9 місяців тому +2

    This guy is the type of guy who reminds the teacher about homework on a Friday 😢

  • @blackstar-genX
    @blackstar-genX 5 місяців тому +3

    I mean i think they made her doctor at the end as a why for her to move away from being know as the mechanic that worked on stolen cars. That just my thought.
    Because let be real would you willingly leave your car with a mechanic you know worked with car robbers?

  • @coupleddead247
    @coupleddead247 Рік тому +4

    I just realized that the two thugs you take out after Hector and Zack are driving the Renault and Evo you stole for them

  • @frizzyrascal1493
    @frizzyrascal1493 Рік тому +2

    Undercover on the PS2 was the best version of Undercover.

  • @Balbaar
    @Balbaar 5 місяців тому +1

    my time in this game only exists as a bad fever dream.

  • @kacperNFS
    @kacperNFS Рік тому +3

    The takedown missions I would turn into the set pieces, where you have to follow the enemy like a time trial, and if you manage not to lose them, you'll get some set piece of him crashing in actual cool way.

  • @rokok5967
    @rokok5967 3 місяці тому +1

    About the classism argument at the end, that doctor is better than mechanic, its Christina Millian in her prime. She could be homeless...

  • @dannysteensma411
    @dannysteensma411 Рік тому +23

    Even though I see its flaws I still love this game. Its the game that introduced me to NFS and it did do some things right:
    - the soundtrack is one of the best in the franchise
    - the busted scenes are badass and really fun to watch
    - the car selection is actually pretty good not too much and too little
    - the cutscenes are so dumb but that’s why I enjoy them to watch
    - highway battle is really awesome and I wished they brought it back to some of the newer nfs
    - customization is pretty good
    - I actually like the map and having everything being connected through highways is an actual good idea
    - the syndicate jobs are really cool and show off multiple cars that you could use later

  • @sicdemon7177
    @sicdemon7177 Рік тому +3

    My biggest gripe with this game was the physics. I remember having a fully maxed out Bugatti and being able to take every turn effortlessly by letting off the gas. My second gripe was the vinyl editor was SO. DAMN. SLOW! It became a chore to make any type of design.

  • @ToCHawk
    @ToCHawk Рік тому +6

    Love your uploads, your perfectly timed humor along with actual analysis is spot on. Keep the videos coming

  • @Happymali10
    @Happymali10 Рік тому +2

    So...the out-from-sea helicopters in Undercover are odd, but the "Helictoper in a roadblock in a tunnel"-ones in Most Wanted are not?

    • @TheCapitalWanderer
      @TheCapitalWanderer 9 місяців тому

      when was that?

    • @Happymali10
      @Happymali10 9 місяців тому +1

      @@TheCapitalWanderer The first Most Wanted-game (2005?) had a bug where you'd sometimes get police-helicopters in roadblocks in the highway-tunnel beyond the golf club.

  • @celphtitled8284
    @celphtitled8284 Рік тому +7

    make more videos like this where you are critical of video games and you'll get major views, especially for modern games, in which the state of modern games they are released in it's really easy to do.

  • @nemtudom5074
    @nemtudom5074 Рік тому +2

    12:04 * 'The safeword is police brutality!' *

  • @RedSkylinex60
    @RedSkylinex60 Рік тому +6

    I kinda wish we got a 2007/8 Underground 3 that ties the stories of Underground 1 through Carbon together instead of Undercover.

  • @jay_vi5632
    @jay_vi5632 Місяць тому

    11:57 Those busted cutscenes probably the best thing going about this game😂😂😂

  • @loudman6911
    @loudman6911 Рік тому +4

    one thing i love about this game for Real are those goofy ass arresting cutscenes

  • @babarain99
    @babarain99 Рік тому +1

    the plot was great, the problem with the game is the timeframe in which it was made - 6-9 months to make entire game, not enough.

  • @kraevous
    @kraevous Рік тому +4

    Anyone actually love this game or is it just me?

    • @zionz1164
      @zionz1164 Рік тому

      I played this game back in 2010 and i still actually enjoying it till this day

    • @ciaranalexander2533
      @ciaranalexander2533 10 місяців тому

      It's a good game... Currently playing it... Much better than the garbage we've had from Criterion and Ghost...

  • @zhin8294
    @zhin8294 Рік тому +2

    You know, I've never played this game but all this video did was actually make me genuinely interested in playing it and giving it a fair shot. A lot of the "criticisms" seemd like unnecessary nitpicks without any real substance behind them. And trust me, I came in here with an open mind, ready for some bad game to be ripped to shreds... Like the critique against the different race types which just ended up making me more intrigued by the game. All the while the gamelay and the cut scenes reminded me of most wanted. Which is my favorite racing game of all time. And yes, I also very staunchly believe that the live action cutscenes are better than what they have nowadays. Just take a look at the latest nfs entry for further proof. Doesn't matter how much you try to gaslight through your video, it doesn't change my mind on it at all.

    • @marsoh7972
      @marsoh7972 10 місяців тому

      It's one of the most fun NFS games by far, this youtuber simply decided to be a negative Nancy about it for no reason. If you can handle poor graphics and thought Most Wanted desperately needed some variety in gameplay, then Undercover will likely hit the spot. I remember really enjoying the different mission types, nothing like completing a highway battle in first person. The only legit complaints I had were the physics which weren't the best as well as the occasional pop in. Soundtrack was amazing too. The story is serviceable for a NFS title, plus it explains why you'll be doing all those unique missions, that you don't see in other games.

  • @yaboiijebus
    @yaboiijebus Рік тому +3

    to this day this is one of the nfs games i refuse to go back to and play, yet i find deep dive videos like this really interesting, great video man cant wait for the UG2 video

  • @JacintoX44
    @JacintoX44 Рік тому +1

    I'll forever stan the live action cutscenes over what we get now. Payback was terrible, Heat was bearable, but Unbound made me want to gouge my eyes and rip my ears off.

    • @ciaranalexander2533
      @ciaranalexander2533 10 місяців тому

      And with Criterion at the helm, we won't get live action cut scenes again... Criterion are dead set on making Burnout games with the NFS title...People keep saying that it's not the same people at Criterion that made Burnout, but we keep getting the same Burnout elements in NFS...

    • @TheCapitalWanderer
      @TheCapitalWanderer 9 місяців тому

      ​@@ciaranalexander2533this comment is so delusional lmao

  • @chappanagent
    @chappanagent Рік тому +6

    🇮🇳🙏a lot of memories from this game. I can see what kind of "Hollywood" look and aesthetic they were going for but honestly pro street looked way better visually and even gameplay wise was superior. To this day idk why the skybox in Undercover is so jacked.
    Edit: waiting for your next video on nfs shift.

    • @dalelumina3
      @dalelumina3 Рік тому +1

      worst part is that not even disabling bloom can fix that ugly skybox

  • @nuGGet909
    @nuGGet909 Рік тому +1

    I avoided this video the first time it hit my recommend because i thought "oh here's a video about some jackass shitting on me and my brother's favorite childhood game." But as I took off my nostalgia tinted glasses I realized this game isn't that good. Doesn't mean it doesn't have highs though, the busted cut scenes are hilarious and amazing sound track too(I still listen to 'the qemists - stompbox' often) And when a pursuit starts the screen freezes and then zooms in on the cop that spotted you? Little shit like that is so cool to me. Oh and don't forget the millions of voicelines during pursuit. Good shit. But yeah i can agree those screen effects are actually ridiculous, funny thing is when we where little our computer was so slow that the only way to play was on lowest settings. Definitely just a rant but I'm glad I watched this video, it was pretty funny, thanks.

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +1

      Ah fuck, I forgot to talk about the police callouts during pursuits. Some of the things dispatch says are lowkey hilarious

  • @Zelosis_
    @Zelosis_ Рік тому +9

    You aren't wrong, I will in fact watch whatever you upload

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +4

      bro literally yesterday I was thinking to myself "Have I not heard from him in a minute because he died or because I just haven't uploaded in forever?" lmao glad it was option 2

    • @Zelosis_
      @Zelosis_ Рік тому +1

      ​@@mitchelldiedrich I am alive! Most community tab stuff doesn't get pushed very well to home pages a lot of the time, but I try to stay on top of my sub box for content creators I like. Then commenting, liking, etc for algorithm. Really wish the fallout and other vids performed as well as the nfs stuff because I love the branched out content. Cheers man!

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +2

      @@Zelosis_ yeah, I rewatched em, and I'm not surprised they flopped. I got a new mic after the Carbon video and I didn't know how to use it, so they audio was scuffed asf and the pacing was just too slow to hold attention. lessons learned!

  • @HbEthan.
    @HbEthan. 5 місяців тому +1

    Like how recovering the pda and the car was basically the plot of fast 5 when they stole the gt 40 or the hyper car in fast 7 😂😂

  • @animavenatores5324
    @animavenatores5324 Рік тому +5

    Agree 100%...still my 3rd favorite need for speed

    • @thesuperiorgolem5357
      @thesuperiorgolem5357 Рік тому +1

      glad im not the only one who likes this game.

    • @wedasantika6079
      @wedasantika6079 6 місяців тому

      It was my first NFS game. Although at first I didn't get it why I had the game installed in my old laptop. So I played it and enjoyed it.
      I didn't know any other NFS game back then and never owned PS2.

  • @impetus_aus
    @impetus_aus 15 днів тому +1

    Interesting to hear people don't like this game nowadays. I thrashed this as a kid. It's one of my favourite NFS games.

  • @4386764
    @4386764 Рік тому +4

    I guess its late to tell you that there's the mod known as Reformed that basically fixes most of the game, especially graphics and handling.

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +5

      lol yeah. a commenter (maybe you? can't find the comment now) brought it up on my last video, but by then I had already recorded all of my footage. a missed opportunity, which is kind of a perfect metaphor for this game.

    • @4386764
      @4386764 Рік тому +3

      @@mitchelldiedrich You could probably refresh the upload of this video with the added segment of the mod in which you give some quick thoughts about it like: "This is how good UC could have been if the devs weren't constrained with time and staff."
      Judging recent findings it can be seen that UC only had 6 to 7 months of dev time while also being made by a understaffed team. (making almost 3 to 4 games in the same time frame) gotta give these devs some slack as for them miraculously managed to create a decent foundation to mod despite being against all odds.

  • @deathaero9149
    @deathaero9149 Рік тому +2

    i liked playing it as a kid. as an adult it was kinda good but not perfect. my main complaints is no music in free roam, the physics are off, and they really needed to categorize the rims by manufacturers. the garage is the best part. what’s with the light behind the wall? the garage music is great as well.
    by the way, in some areas the sky will change color when you look back at the camera

  • @brendandrummond1739
    @brendandrummond1739 Рік тому +3

    I'm sure you see how well these videos are doing relative to your others, awesome that you continue to provide the content we want! If you've played Underground 2, I'd love a video on it if you ever get around to it! Edit: I see that was already the plan. Keep up the good work!

  • @piaskowski590
    @piaskowski590 Рік тому +2

    EA forced BlackBox to channel their efforts into 2008 NFS, leaving Pro Street an unfinished product. This unfinished product was one of the best NFS of my childhood and it's sad that Pro Street could've been even better.

  • @TheKingRacer007
    @TheKingRacer007 Рік тому +1

    I personally enjoy playing Undercover. There is mods on pc that significantly improve the game's graphics and fix most of the annoying bugs. Also improve game mecanics such as customisation, career pink slips, police in races, and the handling of cars. The fact that the developers (Blackbox) didn't have the time they needed to express their talent and fully finish building the game caused it to be the way it is when it was release back in 2008. Thanks for the mess EA! 🤦 Undercover could've been the best nfs game. If EA didn't rush everything up.

    • @RIPzippyshare
      @RIPzippyshare Рік тому

      Project Reformed is the only way to play Undercover on an acceptable form.

  • @neal5807
    @neal5807 Рік тому +3

    THIS IS ROCKET LEAGUE

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому

      shogun with lowkey one of the greatest calls in the history of esports

  • @FastCarsNoRules220
    @FastCarsNoRules220 Рік тому +1

    I've seen so many people wanting a Most Wanted remaster or remake, but honestly I think Undercover deserves a remake more and that's done better that the original.

  • @jachu7117
    @jachu7117 8 місяців тому +8

    IT wasnt bad. IT was different than carbon and that's IT. You are complaing about helis which are going from the ocean 😂 that's too much

    • @nyairiclarke9025
      @nyairiclarke9025 4 місяці тому

      I wonder if he stretched before that hell of a reach dwl

  • @alejo5576
    @alejo5576 Місяць тому +1

    I love this game, it is my childhood and ill keep playing it no matter how fucked up it is.

  • @tanir7333
    @tanir7333 Рік тому +5

    Any hot takes on NFS 2012 or NFS The Run?

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +11

      hottest take I got: The Run is super underrated, but maybe I'm just a sucker for the concept. The avalanche legitimately changed my perspective on what racing games are capable of.

    • @jackverna339
      @jackverna339 Рік тому +1

      ​@@mitchelldiedrich I'm so glad you feel the same way about The Run. While it was a fairly short game for me I thoroughly enjoyed it and thought the storyline had a familiar action movie feel, and as a racing game it was amazingly executed.

  • @somerandomdude2085
    @somerandomdude2085 Рік тому +2

    Damn, I dont remember the filter being that bad when I was a kid. Does this game take place after an atomic bomb dropped?

  • @father042
    @father042 Рік тому +3

    You should talk about the PS2/Wii version which is just as bad

    • @lordeilluminati
      @lordeilluminati Рік тому

      it is bad but at least it doesnt crash often as the PC and PS3 versions

  • @cianmannion
    @cianmannion Рік тому +2

    I enjoyed the PS2 version more than the PS3. The PS2 felt more like the old need for speeds while the PS3 was just an absolute disaster

  • @NoiseBombS14
    @NoiseBombS14 Рік тому +3

    Guess what fellow commenters
    NFS Prostreet was the best NFS game and it’s not close.
    Cry about it.

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +4

      anyone who disagrees is banned. they can appeal by writing a five paragraph essay about Ryyyyyannnnn Cooooper

  • @charliebmc3081
    @charliebmc3081 5 місяців тому +1

    3:04 Brother, sweet use of AI to move the characters mouth. 👌 Caught me off guard.

  • @SVSportscars
    @SVSportscars Рік тому +3

    A very accurate review of the game, only comment I missed is that the world felt empty and lifeless.
    Back in the day I waited for the arrival of every NFS game until this game.
    I got the game from EA as was the case with previous titles (MW and Carbon) while working for nfsunlimited and even then it felt like a massive disappointment. Even free it felt like being ripped off. Felt very sorry for the people who paid for it.
    I felt obligated to finish the game but never touched it afterwards. It just felt like a drag playing it, it was the complete opposite of MW.
    Sure no NFS games had people in it on the streets etc. only cars. Yet Carbon and especially MW felt like it was lived in for some reason.
    Never liked the visuals, EA called it the golden hour of the day for sunlight but all it dit was make it look yellow and boring.
    The car list wasn't bad at all, just could not be bothered much with it.
    This game made me loose all hope in NFS and I was basically done with it.

    • @mitchelldiedrich
      @mitchelldiedrich  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, I wrote "empty world" in my outline and then forgot to talk about it lol
      I agree with every single one of your points - especially with it being the game that soured me on the series. It had a good run, but this one confirmed that it was dead.

    • @hawken796
      @hawken796 Рік тому

      Unbound has npc's on the street now so, improvement.

  • @STOTTINMAD
    @STOTTINMAD 19 днів тому

    Im glad we agree that the live action cutscenes, at least in the early games, are excellent additions all around. :)

  • @atomiczombie29
    @atomiczombie29 Рік тому +3

    I absolutely enjoyed tf out of this game. Still do whenever I can play it. Needs a remaster.

  • @lukesgameplay9121
    @lukesgameplay9121 Рік тому +2

    The game is actually pretty decent with the Project Reformed mod

  • @DanteLocquiao-go4yh
    @DanteLocquiao-go4yh Рік тому +1

    Why is the need for speed undercover thumbnail is so good

  • @M4V3R1CK_13
    @M4V3R1CK_13 Рік тому +4

    Undercover stills better than Payback, Heat and Unbound combined.