The "Coloured" TRUTH behind Tyla viral Breakfast Club interview REVEALED
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AYOOOOOOO THIS THE FUNNIEST COMMENT I'VE SEEN IN QUITE SOME TIME🤣🤣🤣
Coloured is not just mixed race in South Africa it's a culture,
She needs to be cancelled!!!!!
She's fake AF
And last but not least she could never be compared to Rihanna 😳
Rihanna is a multi-millionaire.
Twyla is a one hit wonder 🤔
Pretending to be rich rich 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@user-de1wg5sn3oBILLIONAIRE
It's not a culture but a racial segregation purposefully designed to suppress blacks in South Africa. Whites and colored earn more in SA compared to Blacks. And they have more opportunities than Blacks. Meanwhile, colored are lighter skinned. Mixed with black and some other races.
It’s may have its own culture but it’s a mixed races person it’s a culture cultivated by mixing
Andrew is way too comfortable in that chair with 1/2 foot 🦶 outside his shoe.
😂😂😂
Lmmfao!
Well relaxed. He comfortable in his own skin, his show👏🏾👏🏾
😂 fax 📠 #johnnyx100
😂spread across the entire screen, he's not tall, he's long
I'm South African and I feel like Tyla was kinda forced to say that she is part black even though that isn't what she identifies as. Coloured people in my country aren't just seen as mixed but are a completely different race on their own, like Trevor Noah is mixed but he wouldn't be described as coloured but as black instead, because he grew up within the black culture, and not the coloured culture. Even though the word "coloured" is a trigger for black Americans, that word does not link/connect to black South Africans, hence why it forms a different race of people.
Well put
Wait nithi u Trevor is black what?
Trevor would check the "coloured" box in SA. There is no pressure nor _one-drop rule_ to force him into a black identity otherwise.
@@VegasElementhe was raised black so, he can say he is black. While someone with both parents as coloured is clearly in a different culture and setting. Bcoz coloured is not just a mix but a culture
@@Lulu-wv1nt That is false, and laughable. What the hell does "raised black" mean, anyway? You sound delusional. He is Mulatto, mixed-race, Multiracial, end of story.
@3:13 COLOURED is not just mixed race in South Africa it is an entire culture similar to Creole people here in the United States. It's a lot more nuanced. We need to stop looking at everything through an American lens.
That’s very true
As a coloured south african aka a bruino i approve of this message 😅
We never going to look through an South African lens playboi
Do Coloured people have their own language, cuisine, dance, traditional dress, etc?
@@Rootstroubador They have their own language in the same way that black American people have their own language. They speak Afrikaans but with a very strong "coloured accent." They have their own communities, their own sense of fashion, and their own worldview. In South Africa they are recognized as their own disticnt ethnic group that began over 400 years ago.
At first I didn't like her. I thought it was her, but she actually seems like a very sweet person. I realized it's her team who make her seem unlikable. First the grammy, (like let's be honest she should've been nominated for best new artist not AfroBeat), then her team announcing a world tour when she only got like 1 popular single people know her for, then her team cancelling her tour, then the Chris Brown tour, then this situation with Charlamagne... I've seen many people comment the same about her on blogs and social media. Her team is making her unlikable.
Yeah and I think her team is the reason she didn't answer that question. They must have told her not to, she has talked about her identify and explained freely many other times why not in that interview
@@Diva-julie I think she's still raw and doesn't know how to pass a question she doesn't wanna answer hence the head turn🤦♀️😂she should work on that but she has time, she's only 21 or 22 ... 🤔
How could you not like her…? lol
@@Bell-Power190she has been explaining herself over over 😊 for no reason
@@Diva-julie😂😅 they got 24 hour internet access?
Tyla's team need to be better at answering this question, and Black Americans need to accept that you can't force your definition of race on other black people. If she doesn't want to be seen as Black, why bully her into it?
I'm going to take a guess here and say most Black Americans don't give a damn about Tyla. No one is forcing anything. Tyla's only getting heat because she needed her handlers to save her over a question.
Agreed, or moreso that whole racist one drop rule that we've had in the US.
@@bruceleeroy8302 Yep. That's a slave rule. The same slaves that don't classify Black people as humans. f*ck their rules.
@@ColdDream224well this is a dumb response… she clearly is on the Breakfast club so clearly someone gives a damn lol.
@ColdDream224 America includes black we do care about people race .. " now if said you do i will understand when you America was built on race .. alot far skin aks mixed people take advantage of a black Audience look at dojay where she was on that racist webca lot people turn their backs on her
The fact it was big deal to just say your black… clearly she ain’t black lmaooo
She's not black. No mixed-part-black person is.
Duh....neither is Ice spice, Beyonce, Latto, Cardi b, Doja cat and even Rihanna they're ALL mixed people who claimed to be black despite not being actual black women.
Oh-Bama is half white.
@@sannmayyI’m mixed and I’m blk 😂 gtfo colorist in every culture. I am cultured and I am black just like u. Deal with the same problems as u. Stop the hate. Your delusional.
Everyone is stuck on the race topic, fact of the matter is Tyla didn't want to answer ANY questions. At this rate she won't last in America.
She doesn’t need America, 🤷🏾♂️ you making it as if America is the Mecca of entertainment. The world is too large for America
@@brianmolele7264There was specificity in the comment _in América_ of course she can thrive outside of there. But, she is at an American radio station
@@user-bi4bb6cd9sthinking logical seems dead outside of America. The topic of not answering ANY questions is being hidden by the coloured question. Americans go to other countries and if we don't answer ANY questions there will be consequences.
Logic and America? In one sentence? Funniest thing I’ve read this year . 🤣🤣😂
She want the american dollar, the american recognition, the american awards, the american met gala and all so yeah how about her stay in her country ???@@brianmolele7264
I'm a South African coloured man. I see no issues with what was asked, if Tyla wants to be this big superstar and grab the world's attention then she needs to saddle up and deal with it. Understand that there are generations of South Africans and in my generation, we been thru some struggles but we dealt with it, younger 20 somethings didn't go thru the same things we did. Also alot of my generation don't listen to Tyla, when I hear her song come on the radio or a tik tok playing, I switch it off or scroll past. In my personal opinion, she should come back to South Africa and leave the rest of the world, 22 is not the age to blow up in America. Those labels ain't helping either 🇿🇦
I didn’t see any issue with it either. She needs more artist development. It would have been the perfect platform to educate folks and shut down any misconceptions…Trevor Noah talked about it when asked on the Breakfast Club. In my opinion they are trying to position her like a Rihanna type artist but it’s not landing.
What did your generation go through that Tyla and the 20 years olds didn’t ?
I think it's frustrating from her perspective because she has already talked about it before
@@7reasonss__ celebrities answer questions more than once all the time, it’s really not that deep.
@@MsBROWNIEBABE it's like an american label is trying to make a south-african born singer sing american style songs over nigerian style beats (maybe amapiano too?). there's something authentic about african music that american artists try to replicate but can't. and i think american listeners still listen to rnb and hip-hop more.
if i were her manager, i'd either rebrand her to an rnb or hip-hop artist for an american audience, or send her to africa to immerse her in the culture there and make authentic afrobeat, amapiano
The point is she could’ve just said what she stated in the statement. The things they didn’t want her to talk about were dumb. I commend CTG for standing on business I love him to pieces ❤
She prolly didnt make the statement.
lol your missing the point. There are ppl in South Africa that are labelled black and she is trying her best to separate herself from them
@@gabrielgala5107 why would she claim being black if the black people in South Africa even call her coloured. Ur point makes no sense.
Her statement told on her. She said she was black, 2 other things and colored lmao. It's also exposing how alot of them think outside the US. Everyone likes to appropriate American culture, then talk crazy about us. It's normal though the rest of the world does it as well.
@@gabrielgala5107 She’s trying to separate herself while also proudly claiming her black ancestry? Touch grass.
While Tyla has the right to not answer questions, she would certainly benefit from better media training to navigate challenging or provocative interviews/questions/personalities.
She out here pouring water on her arse whilst twerking n singing make me wet make me water....wtf u acting like she's some innocent delicate flower. You are the ultimate simp....son
Man Tyla not beating those Industry Plant allegations after that interview. Especially after finding out all the questions they told him not to ask.
Tyla’s label moving her around like a Fabergé egg!
it's that "don't ask her who's she's dating" question for me . very sus that one 😑
Exactly!
She's not a industry plant Maine. She's been popping for years over here at South African
Industry plant? I’ve definitely never heard that one lol, but I really hope not
@@professionalrawdogger161 yeah exactly I’m Nigerian and I had heard of her even before Water, tho not much admittedly
People on the internet toss around the 'Industry Plant' term when she's brought up. Her team policing basic questions makes you think that maybe the folks on the internet have a point.
Yep she told wat to say
Umm people have had publicists for decades.
She has a public persona and her personal life. her team helps her keep balance and protect her boundaries because she’s young and it’s team sport. Charlemagne on the other hand repeatedly crosses her boundaries as opposed to respecting her and having a civil dialectic and that shows you where his power drive and Freudian instincts are.
Her record label will be her downfall. I love her as an artist, but her handlers are making is come across like she's problematic.
@@KB-cd1ilhuh? She’s like in her mid 20s. Brandy, Aaliyah, and Monica were way younger when they came out early teen years, and they were prepped on how to answer questions. And you are defending this chick. In Africa she would have a whole family by now of kids, but you think it’s okay for her to police childish questions.
the almost non existing hair growth on CTG is killing me here...
Right reminded o the man who was not quite a man A villain actual figure in history who hated his own mother Hated women
@@gailsscott1106wtf are you talking about
He looks like Kirk Franklin with no facial hair. Very strange
😂😂😂
Something off with her team like no for real 🤦🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️. I definitely agree with Charlamagne 🤔
you crazy
@@user-kz3ng1vj6nwhy crazy ? 😂 for having a opinion 😂
Ty la is an industry plant, that's why things seem suspect because she is not an authentic artist, she is the South AFRICAN drake.
Ty LA is an indus try plan t, that's why things seem suspect because SHE is not an authentic artist, she is the South AFRICAN drake.
Ty LA is an indus try plan t, that's why things seem sus pect because SH.E is not an authentic artist, SH.E is the South AFRICAN BBL drizzy.
That list is insane wtf you gonna talk to her about
Better to leave some things out if you know answeres to certain questions wil trigger a certain group of Americans....
Yah Feel me?
If you not from South Africa you wouldn't understand.
We as COLOURED people here are not black and not white. We're mixed. People over in USA are trying to make Tyla accept an ethnicity she is not.
Come to SA and you will understand very quickly the difference between white, black and COLOURED.
See I’m so confused. I just genuinely posed a question on another comment because so many are saying “Here in SA coloured is not mixed” but each time I hear the term the reference is with respect to an individual of mixed race. It was my understanding that coloured was exactly what you just explained. This thread has thrown me off
@@a2zstudios980 some colored people are black you can't tell if they mixed even when they are( like Tyla's sister Sydney,she looks black even though she mixed and her hair texture points her out as black tho not), so other people may refrain from saying colored means mixed. Colored is a race on it's own in SA, a culture. Even when they fill up forms on race they have to indicate colored in SA cuz that's how they seen.
I feel like coloured are a lot like creole ppl here in the states. They’re own cultural identity comprised of African/french/native/spanish have different looks and identify as creole not white black etc just creole
@@a2zstudios980 When coloured people say they’re not mixed they mean that they’re not biracial and they have 2 coloured parents/parents of the same race. I think it’s just the misunderstanding that mixed just means biracial/parents of two different races.
I'm from Namibia 🇳🇦, in South West Africa and we also have Namibian Coloureds as an ethnicity.
I work for livenation and I deal with a lot of publicist, I called one about this she told me this was a masterclass on what not to do for an artist lol, she said it takes relatability away from her, and in this era that’s the most important thing
Imo good PR representation could have avoided all of this. They should have went over all of this before she came to North America and Europe.
@@michelleharley2460 that is True as well, it’s almost as they didn’t know charlamgne isn’t known for asking edgy questions, but they learned quick and it did more harm did good
Lol "Coloured" does not mean "mixed race". "Coloured" means "Coloured". It is a race on it's own. Now, there is a political history behind how Coloured people came to be, but it doesn't mean that it is just a synonym.
I suspect Tyla didn't want to have to deal with it because she foresaw that black Americans would place their hangups with the word onto others. The world doesn't start and stop at the US. As a coloured South African man, I encourage black people everywhere to sit the South African Coloured "debate" out.
Some ppl are culturally curious and to assume that _black ppl everywhere_ would want to "debate" such a topic rather than gain a rudimentary insight into the history of the term is not too much to ask...esp.if, as an artist, you identify yourself with such a term
then what would’ve been the harm in her clarifying that. like above comment said, some of us actually wanna know not to berate but to educate ourselves. if she’s “so” proud to be Coloured what was the harm in expressing that?
No we would want to know and I’m black and Irish so if I come to Africa and be called coloured I would be offended. It would be better to explain for the knowledge
Just as we as black people ask you to sit out the land question but you don't listen.
@@lifewithnailah1942she didn't have to clarify anything to anyone. The Internet is free for everyone to do their own research
In South Africa, we got colored people, black people and white people. Its funny when people talk about what they dont know about.
It's funny that south Africans act like this divisive labeling is normal..
It’s also funny that some people think that Americans should accommodate for Tyla instead of the other way around.
@@jtl9945 🤣🤣🤣 which country has stopped divisive labelling, we would like to learn from them and apply it ourselves
True
Lmao imagine saying this , then coming to another country then they call you African
Anybody who criticizes someone who asks a question because they are genuinely uninformed is a part of the problem in this society
You’re talking about Charlamagne.
Who and where is her team? These are simple easy questions that could easily be spun to positives not negatives.
Shady
People need to research their guests more.
It goes both ways. Her team should've prepared her more, knowing that question had been posed before and caused some controversy. They're not more professional yelling from the back telling the hosts not to ask the same question the way they did.
Coloured is not just mixed race it’s a whole culture
Not in america, it's a derogatory term.
Andrew look like he at home 😂
He's talking about Rosenburg...
RosenBug needed to stop chatting off his damn chops and mi d what happening on his dry area station! CTG is not bothered by what he said, his dust to Charla.
Genius
Rosie
When Mac G said this, South Africans said he was hating on her. We’ve seen this movie before.
Right I saw it, too 😬
And everybody talked about jealousy although it wasn’t even the case. He just spoke the truth. 😂🤷🏾♀️
@@CongoNeedsOurSupportToo He speaks negatively about any woman who is more successful than him. He’s just a blatant misogynist but you refuse to see it for what it is because he’s talking about a woman you dislike.
@@iluvbwxhe doesnt like stuck up women and thats fine. Im sure he has many successful women he's cool with
@@iluvbwxI'm not sure if she's more successful than him. Maybe internationally known now but Mac G success will last decades.
I agree. Tylas team dropped the ball. Just answer the damn questions. Why u come the breakfast club. Why dont u wanna get to some of the tea. Otherwise. Ur boring. Next
Just explain running away from question makes things worst
This is a culture clash. The people offended don’t care enough about other ppl’s culture to learn, on majority ofc. And before someone says “She’s using our culture and selling us stuff” that’s the most hypocritical pov to have on this topic as an American 😂.
African Americans have their own thing outside of just being an American b4 being an American. So that sentence was stupid unless you're addressing another group. Also, don't generalize bc ydk who generally wants tk what it is fr and who wants to keep a back and forth.
@@BoohurghhooThe upset people are Black Americans. If they claim African American, that’s a perfect example of my point. They’re upset she used “coloured” based on their American cultural context and have no clue/care of South African culture 😂. Genuine care would’ve have lead them to google which explains all this fairly well.
@@Boohurghhoo My org response is gone so I’ll say again, that is the point. People that are upset haven’t taken the time to understand the South African context of the word. If they claim African American instead of Black thats’s more hypocritical. And if the upset people cared to learn the context, they would’ve looked up the reason like the rest of us.
@@ImaniBluesWhat is their to learn about a group of people that are so ashamed of their country and culture, that they flee to america and other countries to copy and cosplay foundational black americans for money, power and respect? In other words...
#TheyNotLikeUs ✊🏿💪🏿👑🇺🇲
@@ImaniBlues No we don’t care about the context of that word IN the US. She’s free to scream it from the rooftops everywhere else but she should expect a backlash using it IN the U.S. just as they’d be mad at me ordering a Kaffir lime. Kaffir is a slur in SA so they call them Thai limes.
Tyla didn’t want to answer the question and that’s fine. Move on
Her label didn't want to answer it.
@@Noetik5000 Her label knows that she can't answer it in a politically correct manner because in South Africa this is not a thing to explain it. Its a very complex question that catches you off guard, no different than explaining any racial ethnic group you belong in to someone who doesn't understand it. Explaining what being white means is quite an easy question but yet a hard one to answer and make sense of at the same time
You’re in America 🇺🇸, we didn’t go to south Africa 🇿🇦, if we want to know them you better tell us in our country
@@secondexodus9105 she has done it twice but failed dismally to explain on certain high profile platforms 😆😆😆. Hence how we got here. Lady in the video even explains that people in the comments section online made more sense of the matter than her when there was a blowback. It is what it is
@@RastaAfricanGentleman 😂
It's more so a culture thing
I'm considered coloured yet I'm dark skin, yet I have other ethnic cultures in me which is still black to the world.
It's not a culture thing it is a White supremacy thing the " Colored "category was designated by White South African during Apartheid as a racial hierarchy where ,"Coloreds" were given more privileges than Black South African. but not full rights as a White SA. For Colored SA to come over here and gaslight Black Americans while trying to profit off of Black American culture is wild.
“ Por favor “ rubs me the wrong way every time I hear it
Yes, same!
Why
@@ReadyorNot811it was passive aggressive
From her tone of voice and accent I can tell she’s a NY label operative
She should have said her color is green
Her ethnicity is green
because once the dominant class ditch her so will everyone else and it make no sense for her to distance any of her fans
The fact that she had to look at her handler to answer a mf question is crazy. The fact that the handler said "Can we not, Por favor". What the fuck? Lmfao 😂😂😂
Asambe!! Let's Gooooo!!
I’m glad he asked cause if you did research you knew what show you was on
Mixed race and coloured, fundamentally, and biologically are the same thing in terms of being of different backgrounds. However, blanketing them as the same thing is wrong because coloured is its own thing as a whole. Coloured people are some of the most genetically diverse people in the world.
That means they're mixed-race, dude.
@@VegasElement Not at all, a coloured could look fully black or fully white but still identify as coloured in South Africa, just like in my family we’ve got others who look black and others who look white but they are still coloured, it’s a culture you have to look into or experience to fully understand the race.
@@vaughan1379 I know the culture, they are mixed-race people.
Thanks for the funny video 🤣🤣🤣
Lol 😂😂😂 This is Funny!!!. I knew he was giving Tyla the chance to clear up the Coloured comments. Nothing Wrong there!.
As a fan a Tyla, who loves to watch her interviews, all of you international interviewers/journalists keep asking her the same questions. It is redundant and makes her seem like she has nothing else going on besides the things you keep bringing up. She has addressed all those questions multiple times. It's not exclusive.
Then why come to the interview knowing what’s gonna be asked. Don’t come.
It's a simple question come on. my biracial niece gets asked the same thing. because she's Indian and black. u guys are acting like coloured is something that don't exist outside SA
@@godhg9694your niece is mixed with two different ethnicities.
@@royalblue9165 it doesn't matter she's mix. with black and indian. she's Dougla
@@godhg9694 Lmao that is what I am saying she is mixed. Here in the Caribbean there is a lot of mixtures too.
Year of truth
im coloured, we not just multiracial, we have our common culture
her PR Team Failed her but then also too what does she have to hide where she cannot go past PR and speak out and have real conversation...because she is a Programmed Industry Plant who is not prepared for those conversations
Yo do you know you old this girl is? She is young in a world she is not familiar with. She probably already knew about the Breakfast Club, and idolised the place because who they have interviewed in the past, and you think somebody that new to the industry was prepared or able to take on an interview like that with her age, and her being green? Really?
@@158Cypherninja, you acting like she 12
She don't have to be 12. You ever been on TV or done a radio interview? That shit is scary, especially when you are still young, and 22 I still young. You think her age doesn't factor into it? How many 20 year olds you seen get in front of the press and act seasoned?
I feel like That was a Valid Question! I Don't see Nothing Wrong!!!
It's a loaded question given the gravity of the use of the word in one culture Vs the reality of the word used as any other in another culture. If Americans get so worked up by what we consider a normal word, then stop bringing it up.
Her team wanted this PR😂
Facts😂
Her team shouldn’t. I’ve seen people talk about her body, and her being coloured more than her actual music. It’ll work now but it’s not gonna be sustaining for a music career.
@@rayeeiffel480That’s wild. Our racism doesn’t go that low in SA🇿🇦 tbh. We always had coloured bros doing our music/dance etc. The question is, is it 🔥? If yes then I don’t know what y’all talking about tbh. Google Costa Titch, J Molley etc. America is too colourist but I can’t blame them as I don’t know much about the reasons and their human principles there but in SA we’re not like that. Whether that’s the right choice or not is a different story. The girl is famous world wide though
@@actuallywhatthehellissouthA Her fame is dwindling though she hasn’t had a hit as big as water. Also water only got big cause of the dance. She & her team need to do better is what i’m saying. Rage bait doesn’t work in 2024 like it did back then.
@@rayeeiffel480Fair point ❤
Just realized charlamagne is the good guy and he saw that tyla sold her sole and he was just trying help her break free from her contract
He was real Quiet on his Bill Maher interview!
they need to blend uncle Charla's contour i know we finally got these darker colors but blend lol
Why is that shit even a conversation to have. What does it even matter?
In America it matters..
@@humansparklerit doesn't you don't care anyways so why pretend
@@mkmc94 do you live in America?
@@humansparkler No
@@mkmc94 I could tell. 🤦🏾♀️
She should have been prepared for that question..her team failed her
Yooo!!! Bro, in here South Africa, mixed race people are called coloured. Only one out of 100 coloured people call themselves blacks and it is a race here which meanly identify mixed race people. I studied at CPUT in Cape Town and I did live among coloured people in Belville and Old Behlar. I know the world coloured person in USA meant black but here is for mixed race.
No, in the U.S., Coloured people have the right & option to identity as "two or more races", or Multiracial. It's literally a Census racial designation.
Uncle Charla def had an eddie prior 🥴
Coloured is like saying you’re bi-racial or multi-racial in the US. It’s an identification that moves you out of the black box
Until you experience it or properly look into it only then would you understand who and what coloured people are. It’s not just about being of different races it’s way deeper than just that.
Andrew Bro. How you sitting Bro
Feel like it should have been asked
Damn we had time today!! 😅 cTG ON one today! I do wish Tyla didnt get that though. I like her music
Asambe!!😂😂😅
😂😂😂 That said by charlamane LMAO.
Andrew your posture my guy throwing me off way off!!
Colored people are not mixed race. There is a difference. Colored is a race on its own in South Africa! Different cultures and different backgrounds.
But they come from a mixed race ancestry, just like us, Pardopeople in Brazil, in America are seen as black people, here, Pardo people.
Its sounds like another buffer group created by white people for people who didn't wanna be classified as black to get certain benefits and to cause division
But coloureds are mixed. A black person can not be a coloured, a white person can not be a coloured. A white/asian parent and a black parent will have a child who is coloured. And that child as a coloured is his/her own race. Plain and simple. You can't just magically become a coloured without being mixed.
They are historically mixed, coloured just refers to a group of mixed people that formed their own race
Colored people are a mixed race people, hence the word colored, I’ve lived in Southern Africa and a colored is a mixed person l have many colored friends you are trying to make it something different but colored=mixed.
I have a new found respect for Cthagod
Why Schulz sitting like a 5 year old who really need to poo
She's lying. At first she clearly said... "I'm Not Black... I'm Coloured". Now she's trying to change it up and say she's Black too. LOL
By US definition she’s black but in het home country she doesn’t fall under that label, the same way half of “black” americans wont be black in other parts of the world because they aren’t , it’s just U.S. Way of thinking about race is the product of one drop rule and other racist history.
Even if she said so did her contemporary South Africans make a fuss of it ? Aren’t there black South Africans there ? Where she is from it’s not a taboo to “ not be Black & Coloured” but outside of Southern Africa she’d be viewed as just Black is what she’s saying. It’s AAs & their ignorant Karen energy that made a thing about this issue. Read & learn about other people’s part of world too.
She seems confused 🤔
@@inigo9000 even in the US some non black people won't call her black
Reading the comments here I know now why they said America suffers a literacy problem. IQ been declining. The world don’t revolve around US
Moral of the story. Tyla does not identify as black and that’s ok. The team should have prepared her for those type of questions for an American black show 😂
No that’s not what she said. Different regions around the world use different terms for mixed people
Not the moral of the story and not what she said. This is the issue with misinformation and how it spreads. People take a small clip and run a story that didn’t happen 🤦🏽♂️
That's not what it is. She explained it clearly to you in her written letter. Take her word for it because everything she said is true.
@@That_guy_antony_warewhy are you fighting so hard for her to be black
@@theblackgods4699 If that’s what you got out of anything I said then you’re part of the population of people who again don’t fully read or listen to entire stories.
Domkops!!!
😂😂😂😂
To be fair she should’ve just answered the question right there 😅 but it’s obvious her label made her feel weird about the whole thing I guess it’s only in America where it matters how black you are (which in South Africa she and even your other beloved “black” celebs Beyoncé Rihanna Steph Curry etc wouldn’t be considered black we’d classify them as coloured)
Doesn't Rihanna have two black parents..how would she really be coloured or mixed..?
@@Boohurghhoothe rest of the world does not operate on that premise when people come to America they learn quickly they must claim Black to survive eventhough it's not necessarily the case where they come from.
@@hereiswisdom still not listening and still not getting it. Yes, bc of the history and mostly the one drop rule in the states some ppl -that will make it seem like most -will want you to identify as just black or automatically id you as black. Some ppl also want tk if said person will account for any blackness they have instead of just trying to distance themselves while still taking from the culture and subcultures from the diaspora. And some ppl genuinely, generally want tk how that individual identifies. However if you're going worldwide have worldwide depths, if youre going to the states have the same depths as the states as well as what you have and know and mesh it well enough together. She doesn't have to identify as "black" (just black, the way some ppl will go abt it) even if ppl are going to id and see her as that. However a clear enough, concise enough explanation when asked to clear it up even a little would work for these situations a whole lot better everytime.
@@Boohurghhoo Rihanna's dad is Mulatto.
@@Boohurghhoo By the way, there is no such thing as the _one-drop rule_ in the U.S.
It’s not that deep.
It's not! He and others are dragging it
@@user-gk4ig9ho4fhe got so much hate for it! The issue here is actually her team 🤷🏾♀️
She way too new of artist for anyone to hate her. Hell ppl are just discover her hit single and other songs. Issue isnt her. The issue is her team. Making seem like she a industry plant. Which no good for other side. I say. Change your team miss. Bc its gonna ruin her career.
If it's not that deep, then why can't she get asked about it? Most of the "don't ask" questions weren't that deep, it's weird that her team is policing basic questions.
@_NoHandle_ like you said. Her team. They are out of touch. For that specific question. She could easily offend people because South Africa's history with apartheid is different than African American's history. People would easily twist her words.
Coloured people have their own food, language, music, suburbs ect.. not just mix race. Trevor Noa is mixed race. Tyla is colourd, Nelson Mandela was black.
andrew’s leg bruh.
That is not true. Born in 59 WE said colored and I am American Black. Why is her color so important. They know Charlemagne is shady.
And then put her on his show? No, they shady.
Colored in America 🇺🇸and colored in South Africa 🇿🇦 are different things
old and ignorant smh there's a difference here in America. You can tell you never left your front yard.
This was clearly an educational opportunity. People overall are not THAT stupid. Just explain what colored means in S. Africa on a major platform like she eventually did. Most people will get it, accept it, and move on. Most people are not trying to change whole cultures that are not their own. Especially from a young music artist. It's not like she is some important academic person or something.
I know Andrew has back pains seating like that
Charlamagne is very gay. He's pretending like he's pissed, but he is actually enjoying the use of those words.
OMG Shultz! Sit up. You're giving Richard Dreyfuss vibes.
Charlamagne started a conversation about someone's identity with "What even is that?". And you expected her to want to answer?
Some ppl are culturally curious and would always embrace an opportunity to gain an insight into other ppl's culture....is not too much to ask I would assume...esp.if, as an artist, you identify yourself with such a term
@user-bi4bb6cd9s It is actually too much to ask if explaining it forces you to recite a past as traumatic as Coloured people have.
Hmm...so you think the industry is there to feel considerate towards people?
Lol...the industry cares about the money you make for them. If your success is important to you,then you have to answer some relevant questions.
No matter what y’all say y’all all know what Charla was tryna be controversial because there’s alota SA’ns in USA and y’all still wanna know what a “coloured” person is,even Trevor Noah was tired of explaining
I have literally never heard that term before Tyla. Also have never met a South African. That’s pretty ignorant of you to assume that EVERYONE in America knows that.
I think he exposed how fake she is imo lmao.
So clearly he just wanted to start shit by throwing her to the wolves by starting controversy for her.
The "coulored" thing in South Africa is a real thing.
Tyla is telling yhe truth!!
3:15 that’s a lie tho! If you’re mixed with black, people call you black if you’re Tylas complexion… lets be REAL
In America yes
That's false. The only "people" you're talking about is "black" people, who have such low racial self-esteem that they cannot wait to pull Mulattos & other partially black people down to their level. It doesn't work, though. The Census has had a category for mixed -race people since 2000, and our numbers are growing. Are you paying attention.
South African Coloureds have their own culture. Half of them come from black and white, but some come from Malays and Mauritians, some are Khoisan. But we still refer to them as black
Eyi Bhebhe kodwa lena yokubizwa ngoBlack abayizwa kahle. Nalento yokubiza Okhokho bethu (Khoi, San, Nama, Hadza) ngoColoured ithanda ukungidida nami ngoba OKhokho kumele bezimele bona bengabhanqwa nezingane zokufika
Mo faya Ire! Uqinsile ndodayamadoda. Kodwa mangabe sibuyela emuva sibheka umlando, uJan van Ree wayethandana nentombazane(Krotoa) eyayiKhoikhoi eyamzalela inzalo yokuqala yamakhaladi. Kwayangokuya anda nangeskhathi sobandlulula. Abaningi abasiwo amakhoikhoi kodwa sebazenza wona, ngoba befuna kuthiwe umhlaba waseNingizimu ngowabo, kanti akunjalo
Coloureds were only referred to as Black during the struggle for the struggle cause... since then we have been left on our own island...
Calling the Cape Coloured people immigrant children is trying to divide the Coloured people more, and we dont need that...
For the record... Many do not 'pretend' to be Khoi, just as much as a Xhosa 'pretend' to be Zulu...
And why do people care what Tyla identify with or as? Coloured? Black, Indian? she has a claim to all.... She make good music, the world accepted her... She is South African... take the win...
@@FurianXXI don't know how old you are but coloureds were not referred to as black during apartheid.
@@africanandproud6792 - Now i am the one wondering how old you are if you have to ask that question... during the struggle, the ANC were quick to point out to the Coloureds that we are Black and should join the struggle.... then the ANC were for all the 'Non-Whites'... and grouped us into the struggle as under the black flag... post apartheid, we back to the Coloured community... the coloured vote during voting... thats what i meant... theres 100s, 1000s of UWC students of the 1980s that did not complete their courses, swept up in the struggle, but forgotten in the end...
I hope that answers your question
Fair...
Ctg hairline should be the title
her "i'm beyoncé now" energy is what caught me off guard....when she is no where NEAR Bey's catalog- I AM NOT COMPARING. if anything she NEEDED TBC as a huge platform to boost her up IN AMERICA as it is.
she acted like she was too good to answer questions....for her audience.
gone lil girl- i'll keep blasting WATER & ON and ON, but i'm good off her for a lil minute till she run that interview back💯
Gotta agree cuz that neck roll had me when CTG asked her the question and she looked back at her team.
Real! And bey didn’t even act like that when she first came out she waited til like 2014 to stop talking and doing interviews. Like you said she ain’t on bey status yet to be doing all that!
Please lol. Y’all expect everyone to agree with the race term you have. Tyla is a girl just trying to make it. She is colored and that’s what it is, she does not have to explain herself every single interview what colored means. He could have just asked her background. Stop comparing two beautiful artists who have nothing in common too
@@Naomi-fz1hqTyla is very bonish, she needa eat her whole plate already
That is a topic ?
He right.
Andrew got them Clarks Wallabees 💯
2:20 why Charlemagne read like that? Get that man some glasses! He got that Wendy Williams look before she passed out 😂
Maybe distant 😂
But i agree
I like Tyla less after knowing this info. Record labels and "handlers" do more damage than they help, especially after an artist has already broke through. This ain't the 80s.
Who cares if you don’t ? 😂😂😂
@@brianmolele7264 Ya mama 304. 😏
She's 21 years old, barely out of childhood. In her world she would be considered coloured and she unwittingly said so. Even if she wanted to call herself black, she would be corrected in her country. Now she's in America she's obviously learning that the one drop rule still applies and she should call herself black or risk alienating Americans. As a mixed race person myself, I find it rather strange that people of mixed race are required to identify with only one side of them and not acknowledge their multicultural heritage.
@@Missreepee it's 2024 booboo. You can claim to be whatever you want.
Tyla is coloured so stop telling her who u think she should call herself
Americans love chatting about colour so much. But if she wants to get diwn in america, she needs to get in it
Exactly people want to connect, we live in the age of widespread internet where social media is king. I remember being young and the girls around me constantly arguing abt B2K members and what omarion’s favorite fruit was or JBoog’s favorite color. That’s how it is and has been for quite some time. But to be famous now you have to give a lot more than just music
I bet Tyler's team are all white people with some "coloured" people and they are concerned with how they market her to the US, but if she had answered the question honestly, then it probably would not have caused all this backlash.
Avoiding the question makes it look like she is a "proud" mixed-race woman who wants to seperate her self from being identified as black, but at the same time, she and her team want to profit off Black American culture.
Many years ago, an Indian guy from South Africa, who wore his hair in cornrows, explained to me that they had "coloureds" in South Africa. I told him that the term coloured was offensive in the UK, and it was used in the form of a racial slur against black people back in the day.
He explained that coloured (mixed) people do not identify as being black and that they make sure to separate themselves from black people. He made it very clear that a coloured person in South Africa would be highly offended if you referred to them as black because they viewed themselves as being better than blacks because they were mixed.
Tyler should have just explained that she is referred to as coloured in South Africa because she is of mixed heritage. If she had a black person on her team they could have probably assisted her with this and told her to explain that the term coloured is how mixed people are classified in her country, and she could have even given the examples of Creoles in America and the Caribbean.
The fact that her "team" wanted this question to be avoided tells me that she does not have one black person on her team. She and her team assumed that this topic would have caused controversy when it could have been an opportunity to educate.
If I was in her position, I would have said, "Just like you, I do not get to choose what race I am classified as. The same way you are classified as black, and white people as white. ln South Africa I am classified as "Coloured" and this particular classification for someone who is mixed like myself existed long before I, or my parents were even born."
By avoiding answering the question she and her team ended up being the ones to create controversy. Tyler and her team know full well that her mixed appearance as well as her looks will sell with black audiences and other races of people.
The question relating to her being coloured didn't need to be something to run away from. It should have been anticipated, and they should have been ready to explain, especially since Tyler was the one to bring it up in the first instance, by calling herself a "coloured queen". By calling herself a "colured" queen she was clearly differentiating herself from black women, who often call themselves black queens.
You don't hear white women calling themselves white queens or Indian women calling themselves Indian queens. Other races of women seem to understand why black women feel the need to empower themselves in this world that we live in by refer to themselves as "black" queens, but yet Tyler went out of her why to call herself a "Coloured" queen and ended up opening up a can 🥫of worms revolving around how 'she' identifies herself while she cosplays as black, and she is more than happy to take full advantage and benefit off black culture.
Wow you put this out so perfectly right! Exactly, people like this take pride in their "mixedness". Or else why bother mentioning that you are irish? When she doesn't look irish, or her family don't look irish, and they definitely don't live in the irish culture/lifestyle. Reminds me of african friends/relatives who are so proud of their 2% arabness lol.
so by what you said right now, you wanna telle that no other race of women can call themselves 'queen', it's only reserved for black women?
This is my thing: if they don’t want to be black, they don’t have to.
But when shit goes left, you can’t be black then. Don’t ask for support or anything. Leave them where they want to be.
I remember my grandmother telling me Jamaicans used to identify as white, not wanting to be black.
Puerto Ricans used to (majority) identify as white up until the 90s I believe. U can google it..
Coloured people have enough challenges in SA. They don't need extra brownie points. She was born Coloured. The country calls her Coloured just as it calls me Black/African. I can't wake up tomorrow and choose to be Coloured. It. Is. A. Separate. Racial. Grouping. In. South. Africa. So much bullying yoh this is exhausting.
What the hell does even mean
😂What you clearly don't understand is the following.
In South Africa is a group of people who lives a different way and speaks a different language. Black people in South Africa speaks a different language. Coloureds speaks Afrikaans and English. Blacks speaks their indigenous language or English.
The point is. Here in our country a coloured and a black person is not the same race. Most coloureds have black genes and some does not have black genes. Some coloureds are mixed with Dutch and Khoisan. Or Indian and Khoisan. Or Asian and Khoisan. Or Black and Khoisan.
If you are mixed race , it means your mom is white and your dad is black and you either live in a black community or white community not often that you will stay in a coloured community.
Coloured people is a group of peopl mixed with different races all over the world and then after years became a culture a group of people who created their own way of living. Their own dialect and idiolect. Their own way of surviving. In South Africa we are still the race that will always be seen as people who don't belong. Why do I say so? Because in Africa , South Africa , we are called coloureds and not Africans. Only the blacks are called Africans yet we were born and created here.
Hope you and anyone who reads this with all their ignorance understand what I mean. ❤
@@joslinbeukes1585 either u in or u out😂
@@1stNumberOne I'm coloured and I'm not black. My black friends even told me I'm not black. Point.
Why is it so hard to say he’s white. She has whiteness in her and she’s dodging it alongside her team
The controversy about this is stupid
African coloureds are definitely Creole mixed mulatto types. When my African American family lived in Zimbabwe (during the 80s) they got that coloured kinda treatment down there. Possibly because they are mixed black (and most African Americans are mixed, we just choose to say Black/African American...not counting the mixed people here who complain about not feeling accepted by any side, blah blah).
Mixed-race people don't want to be black. We are our own group. So 'blah blah" that.
There was actually nothing wrong with the question asked. Tyla needs to know how to deal with such things.
Nah mara she's answerd this question multiple times
Nah mara she's answerd this question multiple times
Nah mara she's answerd this question multiple times
Nah mara she's answerd this question multiple times
It’s easy to deal with in South Africa but not overseas tho because they are not familiar with the race nor the culture, she already explained it perfectly and she’s able to do so comfortably.
Did I just see DJ Sbu here?
*Peter Rosenberg Diss*
What’s wrong with the question? Either you black or not. It’s not that serious.
Because tyla is mixed race, and grew up in South Africa understanding she is coloured and mixed race NOT black. The problem is that America demands every mixed race individual claim to be black even though they aren't.
In SA, we have black, white, colored and Indian. A colored is more than being mixed race. It's a culture and race on its own. It's just like when a black and white produced a mixed race children, then those mixed children create children with other mixed children. Then those children produce children too. Yes those are coloreds in SA, some come from the San tribes.
@@latifa3995 I am mixed-race, Mulatto to be specific, and many millions of us here in the U.S. reject the _one-drop_ myth & a black identity because we aren't, and the Census statistics bear that out.
@@latifa3995facts 💯👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾