The Illegitimate Grandchild Of Queen Victoria

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  • The Illegitimate grandchild of Queen Victoria
    Through her nine children, Victoria had many grandchildren. but it is the story of her daughter, princess Louise that spikes an interest. Did she have any children and if so, what happened to them?
    There has been a legend passed down through generations that states that a family all descend from princess Louise, through her son who she gave up for adoption. This legend was started by the so called son, a Henry Locock, who was adopted by queen victorias doctors son and his wife.

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  • @AthenaisC
    @AthenaisC 11 місяців тому +48

    I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't several illegitimate Victorian grandchildren about. I mean, Bertie alone! 😮

    • @sweethistortea
      @sweethistortea 11 місяців тому +4

      With the amount of ladies Bertie was with, I wouldn’t be surprised. However, he never acknowledged any bastards so it may forever be a mystery.

    • @thomaskeil1437
      @thomaskeil1437 11 місяців тому +4

      Edward the Carresser

    • @paperroses7615
      @paperroses7615 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@sweethistorteaDNA test tells but who was in the woodpile that they were not supposed to be? Hummm?

  • @maryellencook9528
    @maryellencook9528 11 місяців тому +16

    If the Princess Louise remained low key during the latter half of her pregnancy she could probably pull it off. With the proper use of a corset and the voluminous skirts and hoops in the petticoats of the 1860s it would be fairly easy to hide a gravid abdomen. If Louise delivered the child in the winter nobody would question if the princess was laid up for a month or more with what is referred to as a "heavy cold" .

  • @BitOfUltraviolence
    @BitOfUltraviolence 11 місяців тому +13

    One of my favourite Queens. Put the government in their place after they tried replacing her which would give them even more power than they deserve. There was ups and downs but she had strength. Even the worse Kings and Queens had gone things that benefitted later generations.
    With regards to the illegitimate grandson, it is a possibility as they had a lot of cover ups in those times. Either sending the child to another home or the mother adopts the child as their own. I can see why it would cause issues to have an illegitimate child in the royal family or a family of wealth and such because it might contrast with the legitimate children who will want access to the home and wealth. For the average person, I do not really see the issue. Even in terms of God and religion, a good God would only punish people for horrific misdeeds, not for giving birth to a child and giving them love. They did have better fashions in that era and a few others.

  • @here_we_go_again2571
    @here_we_go_again2571 11 місяців тому +3

    This sort of thing was probably more common than we, in this day and age, think about. Families of wealth could always
    hide their daughter(s) away if something "inconvenient" happened. Back then the death rates for young children were
    high, it wouldn't be difficult for a baby to be substituted for a still-birth since most births were at home.

  • @abercul7698
    @abercul7698 11 місяців тому +9

    If you check the DNA of any family you will find many people who are not DNA related. Women birthing other men's babies or giving birth to a stillborn & that baby being swiped for a live baby all happened a lot & still does.

  • @2604ernesto
    @2604ernesto 11 місяців тому +2

    very interesting!

  • @paulinewayland713
    @paulinewayland713 11 місяців тому +3

    I used to date a man in CHCH NZ who had family connections with the 'wrong side' of Elizabeth Bowes Lyons family

  • @gothicwestern
    @gothicwestern 11 місяців тому +9

    My family myth is that my great grandfather was the illegitimate son of Edward VIII, the calculation is that Edward would have been about 16.
    My great grandfather's mother, Sadie, worked on the Sandringham Estate and was married off to a brush salesman from Barrow-in-Furnace.
    My great grandfather, grandfather and mother were all unusually intelligent, flamboyant, and gregarious. My mother looked A Lot like Queen Elizabeth II (and not unlike Louise).
    But maybe the royal ancestor was Louise not Edward!

    • @mangot589
      @mangot589 11 місяців тому +2

      I doubt it. Not at 16. But we all have those family stories we love, eh? 👍 But if you’re from the UK, it’d be rarer to NOT be related to royalty than otherwise lol

    • @paulinewayland713
      @paulinewayland713 11 місяців тому +1

      Wow, such an amazing family story to tell, congratulations Ma'am!

    • @gothicwestern
      @gothicwestern 11 місяців тому

      @@mangot589 why would a servant on the Sandringham estate marry a brush salesman from Barrow-in-Furnace (way up in the northwest)? - that part is factual and it would be a pretty unusual thing for a girl/young woman to do at the time unless she had to. But ok maybe she had it off with the brush salesman but if you saw the photo of my great grandfather and photos of my mother you'd see a likeness. Lots of people used to remark on my mother's similarity to the queen.
      It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if it was nonsense but on balance I'm inclined to believe it. 16? Exactly the sort of age that people probably weren't expecting to have to keep a look out. He had a reputation in later life for not keeping his pants buttoned.

    • @gothicwestern
      @gothicwestern 11 місяців тому

      @@paulinewayland713
      I'm glad you like my family story. My grandparents generation is truly fascinating.
      My mother's father (the son of the possible illegitimate son of Edward VIII) got married just before leaving for France during WWI. On the way back from waving goodbye to him, my grandmother saw a newspaper headline saying the ship he sailed in had been torpedoed in the Severn Channel.
      But he was one of the lucky survivors and he was also lucky that because the ship had gone down, he was diverted instead to NW India (Pakistan). And he had a wonderful war, talked about India every day till he died in 1938.
      Anyway! When my grandmother died it was discovered that all her wedding photos were torn out of the album. And my mum told me that she and her sister had picked up on there perhaps having been a liaison in India.
      Anyway! A few years ago, John Sergeant did a documentary about the Indian railways. From their original construction and continuing to this day, work on the railways is restricted to the descendants of Anglo-Indians. And John spoke to a man about my age who had exactly the same first name and surname as my grandfather! (Something very English like Edward King - but not that).

    • @gothicwestern
      @gothicwestern 11 місяців тому

      On the other side - my dad's great grandfather walked his family from Howarth to the Colne valley to find work in the cotton industry and eventually became a mill owner himself. So my grandmother was brought up wealthy but her father died in 1913 in his forties so the mill passed to his brother and my grandmother's inheritance was invested for her. And guess what they invested in? Why, the new construction of railways in Russia - a guaranteed safe investment! LOL my family helped to fund the Russian Revolution! Haha

  • @Republic4ever714
    @Republic4ever714 7 місяців тому

    The whole line has been illegitimate since 1460!

  • @iangraham5625
    @iangraham5625 11 місяців тому +5

    You really do need to pronounce names properly. I've noticed this on several of your films. This time I notice the mispronunciation of Argyll.

    • @annaferrazzano8150
      @annaferrazzano8150 11 місяців тому +3

      Lol. In fairness, it’s a difficult name to pronounce! It’s not the end of the world 😂

    • @jabowi2528
      @jabowi2528 11 місяців тому +1

      It's very easy to pronunce and very famous. It's like saying Ticvoria instead of Victoria.

  • @markgarin6355
    @markgarin6355 11 місяців тому +3

    Knew him well? Knew him biblically some might say...

  • @mediocremaiden8883
    @mediocremaiden8883 10 місяців тому

    Queen Thyra of Hanover ,( whos older sister married Bertie and became Queen Alexandra and 2nd sister married the Tsarevich Alexander becoming Empress Maria Feoderovna ) Anyhow when she was 15 or 16 When Thyra was still just of Denmark, (unmarried) gave birth to a baby girl by her Tutor or Music Tutor or Court Physician IDFK but yeah I wouldn't be surprised and the courts and 'The Firm' will never allow DNA Testing because I'm sure Bertie with all his mistresses had fathered Generations of People and their descendents would most likely all want monetary restitution.

  • @paperroses7615
    @paperroses7615 11 місяців тому

    I'm trying to figure out which one of her children or grandchildren made me relative to Queen Victoria DNA test my great grandma was living in Victoria's time and I was born very late to older parents My great grandmother passed away after 1923 it was around 1933 was cousin to Mary Todd Lincoln whom wrote letters to and back from Queen Victoria especially after Albert passed away to console each other Then Abe Passed away So I wonder how it happened that Queen Victoria became my DNA test relative? Just occurred to me I should see whom my great grandma other children were Maybe someone had gotten into a woodpile that they weren't supposed to be? Hummm?

  • @jpr455
    @jpr455 11 місяців тому

    "it is believed" by whom? There doesn't seem to be any evidence, just wild supposition.

  • @pleasestoptheheadgames
    @pleasestoptheheadgames 11 місяців тому

    I believe in this one... Very much so... Perhaps moved to America? Canada?
    Think
    DNA will hold up here.

    • @here_we_go_again2571
      @here_we_go_again2571 11 місяців тому +1

      It is said that many of the landowners
      in what became the Louisiana Purchase
      (France to US -- Europeans were already
      living in some areas) were descendants
      of French royals and nobles who had
      been born on "the wrong side of the bedspread"

    • @pleasestoptheheadgames
      @pleasestoptheheadgames 11 місяців тому

      @@here_we_go_again2571 correct, Canada and spread throughout

  • @margiesoapyhairbillian4754
    @margiesoapyhairbillian4754 11 місяців тому +1

    We will never know. But the Universe and God knows. Really would it matter? Charles know has whats her name has his queen🎉

  • @rachelfreckleton2664
    @rachelfreckleton2664 11 місяців тому

    Meow