Activists and People of Color: An Abusive Relationship
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- CHAPTERS|
0:00 - Introduction
0:59 - Chapter 1: What this video IS NOT
2:12 - Chapter 2: Victim/Saviour Relationship
6:23 - Chapter 3: Why is it dangerous
13:58 - Chapter 4: Culture
21:04 - Chapter 5: What do we do
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I'm usually here for the funny stuff but this was a very in-depth video. It's something I've been trying to get people to understand for a long time. You have put it in words and have references to show for it. I'll be sharing this around for sure
you put my praise for this video into words that I could not so thank-you to buddy XD
One thing about the modern ubiquity of race chat is it's SOOO US-centric. When you wanna talk about injustice, oppression, discrimination, that's a huge topic that involves so many different groups, yet USians view it as black and white, literally, black vs white racial dynamics that have little relevence outside the US dominate the discussion to a ridiculous degree. Recently woke Americans harrassed a white wheelchair bound Australian who had someone yell "cripple" at them and joked "I've just been hatecrimed" cause woke yanks got butthurt by "hate crime", a white trans teen was murdered in the UK, and when people said "#sayhername" about her murder, wokescold black yanks and their white yank accomplices hijacked the whole conversation cause they think the hashtag belongs to black people and called everyone racist, I saw a discussion about young men who are neurodivergent, poor and single parent raised and depressed having trouble picking up women and a yank rolled his eyes and saying "oh sure white men are so oppressed". The way woke Americans fixate on race like this at the expense of other people's issues and impose it on the rest of the world is so utterly toxic.
Americans think they're the center of the universe, news at 11.
Cultural Marxists are a problem because they are very ethnocentric. They believe the whole world is America.
Only when you talk about it in English...
In most of the languages you can discuss race in, it will come down to "MY RACE IS ULTIMATE SUPERIOR GENOCIDE EVERYONE ELSE MAKE LEBENSRAUM"
This was brilliant Neel, love the new direction...
More please
I'd love if you released this kind of content as a podcast
Here's a point to be made, American Liberals aren't even left wing, they are moderate right wing and also the biggest problem with "rose" activism is that they do not acknowledge class as a problem, they just focus on race, sexuality and gender when that is not always the problem. The reason why Indigenous people have a higher prison population is to do with both Indigenous Australian culture and the class they are a part of as the majority of Indigenous Australians are from lower income households. I think for me trying to understand both sides is important because it means you can bring up the concerns of both sides and basically address them in your argument.
Ridiculous arguments actually come from both sides of the spectrum in political left and right. I love the fact you did get rid of the word "woke" for this argument because to me that word itself brings down so many arguments from the right as it just sounds like you want to complain about gay and trans people. It puts me off a lot of people when they mention "woke" and I will not listen to their points because that word devalues every argument.
I think at the end of the day though, it is too far to blame every white person in the world for the atrocities committed by their ancestors because if you know history, you will know that African history is just as bloody and brutal as European history and Asian History is the same. Every race in the world has ancestors that did horrible things, to use an example the Aztecs (practicing human sacrifice on their neighbours), The Middle East was just as brutal in response to the Crusades in the medieval period. We just forget these things because a lot of people think white people are to blame for everything simply for the fact that Europe was the only continent with empires and cultures to take that brutality of human history to other places in the world and not just on their own continent.
Touchy topics. Got to the heart of the matter in a.positive way. Didn't just declare a.problem, rather offered possible next steps and rationales.--- Well done! 😎
Ethnicity V culture.This is so true. Well done.
Hope this video doesn't get demonetised..... however.... the woke brigade might come a running.
Very well written and produced Neel. Fantastic.
Your brief remarks on religion and the move to a more secular society intrigued me - it was hard to tell if you were stating that this is happening as a matter of fact, or suggesting that it is negatively affecting people of today.
In my opinion the shift away from religion has been one of the most empowering and liberating movements for modern society: organised religions are responsible for so much of the hate, terror, and harm done to people throughout history, not to mention the abandonment of rational thought and open-mindedness for moral objectivism and allegiance to rules made up by a group of men thousands of years ago. This being said, faith, no matter how illusory, provides a sense of meaning to many millions, and my more secular generation faces an existencial crisis of meaning. As we leave behind religion, we tend to gravitate towards something else that will fulfil a 'life purpose', and it seems that the abstract noun of 'Social Justice' has become a replacement deity for many.
You couldn't have made your point about race and culture better. We may be bound to genetics and much of our culture is learned in early childhood, but we have the power to look upon culture critically and view it as removed from race, fluid and imperfect. I took after my asian friends and started taking my shoes off inside a few years ago - it's way better. Also bigger things but yeah word limit for me good video
The problem is that we through out the community part with the fairy tales.
Just remember this is not by chance, while everyone fights over blue vs green other agendas are driven. Excellent content here.
I love the term "rosé activism"!
2023 : comedians deliver the truth and main stream media is a joke...
Another solid video essay mate. Given me a lot to reflect over. I'm certainly one of those people, that in regards to racism, has been saying for years "just stop talking about it and fixating on it so much" as a way to combat ideas that lead to things like 'thought police'. While a mentality like that may help prevent 'the boy who cried wolf' type situations from occurring, it is somewhat reductive by never addressing the core issue, and also comes across as invalidating those who voice such concerns.
I've never been able to argue the idea that criticizing a culture is not the same as attacking ones race effectively before, but you put it together so eloquently in this video. I feel better equipped to handle this topic in future discussions, and I have you to thank for it.
Keep it up man, you're on fire with these!
*Starts whipping myself*
"I'm sorry I'm white"
*Continues whipping myself*
"I'm sorry I'm male"
*Continues whipping myself*
"I'm sorry I'm straight"
In all seriousness.. Great video.
But you not white scientifically Europeans skin tone is pink and biege not white though.
Euroamericans are all brown or red or veiny green pale or black.
@@Zenovarse Portugal, Sweden, Ukraine, Romania, Austria , Czech, Albania,Croatia, Netherlands , Norway, Serbia are very different
@@MusicismoreImportant you can say that about any two similar groups.
Trans women are very different from lesbians
Dogs are very different from wolves
But they are really similar though.
The countries you listed to indicate are very different, their history and their geography and many more things are more alike than different.
If you put Nigeria or China or Saudi Arabia or India or Uganda or whatever in there, someone would instantly notice that it’s the odd one out.
@@Zenovarse notice the food , flag and sports too
Love the direction the KogDog has taken the channel. Very thought provoking, and well backed up with literature. Only question is, what do I do as a straight white young male
ignore the bitches and aim for riches
This video was sent to me by a member of a club that we're in that talks about these kinds of nuanced issues. Great takes!
Good video Neel.
This needs to be seen by many many more. Your essay videos are genius
Love the video and completely agree. I do wonder how well someone uninvolved in the political or educational systems can help spread these truths though. I'm a firm believer in standing by your beliefs on the daily but one person can only do so much, someone who can amass support for said political or cultural power has to be involved at some point
I hope this gets more views. I appreciate all the work you put into making this, well done 👏
This deserves so many more views than it has so far!
I enjoyed this, can I ask though what sparked this video? Was this something you’ve been working on for a while or used some one else’s ideas and compiled them? It’s very well laid out
Very well thought out and researched. Presented in a balanced way
I would argue culture is formed in large part by material conditions.
I don’t feel like sowell offers very viable solutions to the problem
Spot on again, Neel.
Very useful video. Your effort to show that this does not apply to everyone, while emphasizing that people are individuals, kept my mind open to be exposed to your message.
You are amazing! Intellectual, academic and funny! Top genius!
just realised how fluently neel orates.
great video, very in-depth.
This series is amazing
I love this series. Its very well thought out, and I enjoy that you rationalize everything in order not to scare away the people that need to hear this the most. I get into a lot of internet arguments with actual racists (people that actively express disdain for particular races) and they often do a kind of backwards reasoning where they assume the culture stems from the skin-colour. In a sense this is true, but only insofar peoples skin colour sometimes determines how they are treated by others, which can create a path of least resistance towards becoming a part of a particular culture. They often use Thomas Sowell as a "good black" for critisizing "black culture" in America, yet they do not believe more black people could become like Thomas Sowell. Its very hard to argue with the cognitively dissonant, but this has for sure given me some ammo go work with.
Race and culture overlap greatly, but not completely.
Boi oh boi, am I glad to have found this channel.
This was brilliant! Thank you for shining a light on the difference between race and cultures. Not all cultures are good and we should be critical of our cultures and nip out the ones that are toxic. When i started listening, I was thinking, he should really read Thomas Sowell. But alas, you ended up bringing him and his arguments to the table 👏
You're the philosopher we need right now
You cite Thomas Sowell, I like :3
But seriously good fundamentals that I guess lots of people are missing.
It is a pity the ABC is filled with staff who are of Champagne activist type.
Neel, this is a fascinating video. Have you read "The Vision of the anointed" by Thomas Sowell? He tackles the issues such as you are discussing as far back as 1995.
Amazing!
Mizzy need to watch this one
Nice one.
thanks 👍🏾
Brilliant vid Neel.
this was great
I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts on the voice to parliament referendum and the praises and criticisms of it.
It perfectly embodies the type of empty activism he's talking about. Does absolutely nothing to improve the situation of poor Aboriginals but gets the activists alot of attention and makes them feel virtuous.
I love the screenshot from 14:51 because it inadvertently makes "whiteness" look good, even though the authors were trying for the opposite & as a result, it reads like something that David Duke (former Klansman) would publish.
Wow. That was like camping. In tents. Really made me think and realise that the more I opened my eyes and saw how society has all these destructive elements eg. corruption, corporate greed, discriminative loop-holing etc. and would speak out against that, the less I actually helped and gave to charities and people on the street. Not nice to realise you're not as effectively good as you thought.
I had the same idea with culture being treated differently from race and people looked at me weird. It was obvious to me that it mattered far more than the colour of your skin..
The guy in the red beanie really looks like shooterwillamson when ya baked
I think the ethos in which someone grows up is very much underestimated. When a child hears something that makes an impression, it sometimes makes a sturdy element of this person's makeup that guides them throughout life. It's constructive when these elements support the will to *get education, think critically, respect others and oneself, read, appreciate art, have empathy for others, love Nature, control aggressive impulses and learn politeness.* It's a hallmark of a lucky individual if such traits exist. A person who has poor upbringing is beset with prolems, perhaps because there were few compelling interactions in their childhood that made for a good foundation. If there were many abusive and destructive interactions, it is extremely difficult to undo their effects. The "rosé activism" or in other words "pseudo-leftism" completely neglects seeing people as individuals who need proper upbringing to function in society; it's all supposed to be an effect of privilege/victimhood dynamic.
Oh my, the pic at 11:33 reminds me of Parades in Germany celebrating the Fuhrer
Neil you're evolving into something bro
Hey does anyone know what happened to the video on football impressions? The one where he takes off premier league fans, Luis Suarez etc. I watched it a few years ago and it was funny as hell, but I can’t find it anywhere. For a while, I could find it under google videos after it disappeared from UA-cam, but now it’s no longer there. Has it been banned? Is there any other site where I can find it? It was my favourite.
It's the Kog Dog
Just feel that I should point out the image at 21:20 features a family killed in a murder-suicide by one of the mothers. I don't think the use of the image in this video was made with the knowledge of that context. Maybe the image should be swapped for another.
18:50 facts
The opening of Chapter 4: Culture, in relation to race, needs to be more understood by the wider population. I dare anyone to add the word race to the end of any demographic of culture or ethnicity and not imminently consider that statement as grammatically incorrect. When it comes to race, the only intelligent enough species on the planet to even ponder that question in the first place is us, the human race. I hope with my statement, some of us can take back the meaning of words.
Is this a book, or more of an essay? You said “chapter” several times.
"Défiez-vous de ces cosmopolites qui vont chercher loin dans leurs livres des devoirs qu'ils dédaignent de remplir autour d'eux. Tel philosophe aime les Tartares, pour être dispensé d'aimer ses voisins..." Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Yo Neel
More this.
research how italians were treated in louisisana in the 1890s
And this is why I am so deeply in favor of a *healthy* classic nuclear family unit where there's at least one adult relative at home. Sure, there are exceptions, but it's worked pretty well so far in human history.
Yeah, try to tell muslim that culture should not be above criticism - and try to survive the aftermath.
Far out, wordy lol. Smart Guy
Champagne Socialists are rich themselves
Moscato, don't be hating on Rose.
The disgusting Lifestyle-left
ive started at uow and you can smell the wokism all over the place, and i know if i speak my mind as a man im going to be kicked out
It s rather difficult, my iq is only 109 in an online test. I do recognize victim stuff of colour. But mother of colour are the good guys. See, for kids, who aren t into logic (unless chess prodigy) deduction, much attention and time spent is never faulty. Few time spent and 'elderly are talking, go away'behaviour is. We see white people and to be ..brave, muslim do this much more than african american, for lack of a definition.
The big butt specimen is a pain, being a spouse..oops...just kidding! (@End chapter 2)
Nice disclaimer attempt at the beginning Neel. Just because I don't paint my hair 10 different colours all of which aren't seen on any Earth mammal and I don't like the idea of willingly sharing my wife with 50 different men of all different ethnicities on a daily basis doesn't mean I'm a far right deus vult or hail sharia right wing maniac. If anything, I could be even an atheist and it's nobody's business.
p.s. By the way yes hardcore liberals; those radical pro sharia muslims you love so much are as far right as it gets, in the entire world actually.
@@orgonedonor setting aside the tangent remark, there isn't a single non-muslim on this world who practises sharia law. They either don't live there or they live there but they don't practise it. They just happen to be oppressed by it. Being oppressed by a tyrannical government form and having to fall in line with it in order to not get executed isn't exactly practising it. They have a gun to their heads basically or a sword to their necks.
@@orgonedonor if somebody is non-muslim and they "practise" sharia law, they live in a totalitarian muslim dictatorship. They are ruled by someone a totalitarian "leader". Nobody in their right minds would like sharia law since it's a violation of human rights. My point was, western liberals welcome all muslims without question, even the sharia extremist ones because it's cultural diversity apparently. It's true, it's cultural diversity but this culture practises sharia law and that contradicts the western liberal claims completely. In sharia ruled countries women are seen as literal objects and they are being bought and sold quite literally, under the guise of arranged marriages.
This is just one example how sharia is completely against the idea of not just liberalism but also the idea of human rights entirely.
Another disgusting example would be the capital punishment against homosexuals in such countries. I can't wrap my head around how liberals don't outrage against this madness.
Do your own research and learn more about how sharia law an the rule of radical islam is enslaving easily over a billion people.
Please don't ask again about the possibility of a non-muslim practising sharia law, if you're not a troll that is. They are like water and fire, they don't mix.
@@orgonedonor again, do your own research. In this day and age you don't have to go to afghanistan during us withdrawal to see people getting shot because they are pro freedom and secularism. I don't bother putting down links anymore because they are a 5 seconds search away to everyone. Usually when I talk to someone or a friend online about some breaking news they say brb and a minute later they are back informed.
Boring
More right wing liberal apologia. No class analysis keeps getting you hung up on race and culture.
Twice saying George Floyd was actually a hero... yeah no thanks.
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