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I laughed at first too, then realized it was just shaming someone who can actually exist and has done nothing wrong. Commenting on someone's appearance is not wrong only when the target is a K-pop idol. Don't do things you accuse others of, it's not cool.
“BTS took the stairs to success and you’re still down there waiting for the elevator not knowing it’s out of order.” One of the greatest roasts I’ve heard to date...
@@justsomegirlwithoutamousta3173 knowing bros and running man i feel like were the best. But weekly idol now has new MCs and they are so nice. So they can appear on weekly idol again
the fact that when jimin wore a feminist shirt he received so much praise but when joy wore one netizens literally told her to leave redvelvet. same thing happened when rm was glorified for reading a feminist book and then irene got hate for it. knetz will praise a male kpop idol for supporting women then shame women for supporting women in the same breath. great now there are even double standards on feminism. ugh
I think BTS got praise bcz it was a reaction from their fandom which is largely open minded. Red velvet’s reaction was from the general Korean public. Also feminism in Korea is linked with radical women and even women superiority (sometimes) so this caused completely different reaction
@L94 uhm that is only with extremists tho? In the US you have a lot of those too and in probably every other country. Like with most movements good or bad, it doesn't matter lmao
The worst thing is that JYP even sold jayb's songs without letting jayb know, and to make it even worse, he inserted his own name, and took all the credits.
OK now that's just plain rude like he first rejected the songs that jayb himself wrote and he sold them as his like dude why can't he just write his own songs and release those songs written and produced by him with his name so I'm just asking myself why some people Stan him
@@janhavishigwan1347 no i think its more than Taylor swifts situation. Swift was trying to get back ownership of her masters, while jyp outright stole the songs Jayb wrote, then sold them as his own intellectual property. Swift was still named as the intellectual artist in her songs she just didn't own the masters because the contract was unfair. In Jayb’s case he isn’t listed as the person who even ever wrote them. Also Jayb is American while jyp is Korean in Korea and so also I believe the crap contracts say he owns whatever his idols and trainee’s write. Its way more difficult. Jayb has to decide if he’s willing to tie up that much money and resources for lawyers or just walk away. Since i haven’t heard of him starting legal proceedings he’s probably walking away sadly. Korean law favours the Korean over a foreigner and it doesn't matter is Jayb is Asian descent, he is American born raised and citizenship therefore he is the foreigner.
I remember when bts jimin was wearing a shirt with “we all should be feminists” written and namjoon recommended a book about women’s life in Korea people didn’thate on them. But with female idols they get hated on for the same action. Damn they really made double standards in feminism.
netizens fucking hate women, so its no shock that the double standards and blatant misogyny is rampant even still to this day, and when its women netizens doing it makes that shit even worse (and no sense whatsoever like im scratchin my head pls) like,,,the self hatred jumped out luv
@@taevante554 I also think it’s cuz BTS has a lot of female fans, people who appreciate and understand the cause. While girl groups have a lot of male fane, people who don’t always get it. Also the fact that Bts and other male idols support feminism is worthy of praise in comparison to the male fans of the girl groups, because those or the people hating on their female groups. I don’t necessarily think it’s a double standard primarily, it’s more like the different types of fans reacting differently
@@Im.me.hi. their is obviously a double standard in kpop Girl Groups have a lottt I mean a lot of female kpop stans it’s the way the netizens and anti fans react to the opposing groups
@@landdreams9704 I never denied that there are double standards and misogyny, but I’m just saying that the type of fans play a role. Not everything is about gender in kpop. You can’t tell me that the fact that male idols have more female fans does not play a role in some situations.
Ellen asking BTS if they’ve hooked up with their fans and about their dating life is so questionable. She asked it like all idols need to date their fans or give information on their dating life to be taken seriously in the west or something.
So y’all are fine with western male celebs wearing makeup on stage, in movies, at award shows, and other events like that and you think it’s fine, but when Asian men wear makeup you call them gay? Where is your logic coming from?
A lot of actors in India too wear makeup but they aren't ridiculed infact they are worshipped but when it comes to bts they are called gay and all sorts of rubbish words 😔
Man it hurted so much seeing ARMY'S yell Jin and Namjoon's names and tae was even telling them to stop but they continued like what's wrong with these people 😭
😂 I love the ' just because your husband is a crooked toad doesn't mean you have to take out you anger on perfect men ' Girl you are a queen who made this video
That clip where the 2 men where after Namjoon and Yoongi, they literally said that there's music wasn't hip hop but 2 sec after 1 of them say that they never listen to there music, then how could they know it wasn't hip hop?
I freaking love got7 when they responded to that interviewer saying '' so you guys want to beat BTS '' and Bambam answered ''nononono we're friends man And Jackson says this is not a competition it's all about love and support !'' I love them 💚
this NEEDS to be highlighted more, esp among the fans (i think). nowadays it has gotten better but the unhealthy competition may be ruining some idols' friendships
"Namjoon and Jin can outdance any of you tiktok girlies" YES TELL THEM QUEEN WE STAN A HONEST PERSON. These damn tiktok girls who are anti kpop hate on them for no reason like c'mon its obvious they can outdance any of you their choreos are way harder than the choreos of tiktok dances
As a multi stan, there are uncountable uncomfortable interviews. So when I saw BTS' Indian interview with Sakshama, I felt so proud being an Indian cause DAMN THOSE WERE ACTUAL RESPECTFUL QUESTIONS. SAKSHAMA FOR PRIME MINISTER!!!!! Also, pls my poor Lisa T-T someone give her a hug. Those were blonks! We blinks refuse to take them.
The thing which hurt me about Jihyo fat shaming was that JYP laughed too. I mean what if she ain't skinny then what? He is known for keeping up with mental health. Fat shaming is also a part of toxicity
I don't think he was laughing in an I agree kinda manner. If you look at him,he was like eyy come on. Out of all the artists that kept rooting for Jihyo in JYPe,he was at the frontmost.
I'm pretty sure that was an uncomfortable laugh lol. Just look at his expression and they way he usually laughs. The only time he wanted Jihyo to lose weight was for dancing. As a dancer, you are always told to keep at a lighter weight because it makes your moves more smooth. When you lose weight, you lose uneccessary fat which is good for your muscle mass because you can move more lightly. Your weight doesn't make you a bad dancer but if you lose the uneccessary weight, you can become better at it. He hasn't really fat shamed Jihyo like people make it seem.
I feel so bad for Jihyo and all the Idols who had gotten fat shamed or even skinny shamed. U can’t judge a person for they’re genes, not everyone was born with perfectly proportionate bodies and who cares. They let them live their lives.
The fact that these “army’s” didn’t even hesitate to point someone out? I’m an American army, Ive only been army for 2 months and I have more respect that that. They are all amazing dancers. And ANYONE of the boys could make a mistake? It’s no ones fault, and non of them are bad at dancing. Those are fake armys
I don't think you should comment on someone else's skills if you can't get up and perform it perfectly yourself. I'm American Army and feel ashamed of this
Normal question to ask idols - what’s your favorite era your groups had so far? - what’s your favorite concept your group has done? -is there any concepts you would like to try?? - what do you enjoy to do it your free time? -what are some places you would like to travel? -what’s your favorite hair styles you’ve done? - how did your stage names originate? -is there foods you enjoyed in other places you traveled? - is it hard to remember all your different choreography’s? - what do you guys like to do together as a group? (Some)Interviewers - soooo have you hooked up with your fan base - speak English😡 - you learned English from friends? So let’s talk about that the whole interview - why y’all wear make up - *asks them about American politics* -*brings up old unnecessary controversies* -*brings up body image* -*makes them uncomfortable by staring at there legs and skirts* -*brings bts up to every other group* - DATING RUMORS?!?! I wish they would ask idols actual questions not just the same 2 questions over and over or bring up unnecessary drama
@@tokki963 omg please become an interviewer. We need respectful people who can ask idols the things we ACTUALLY want to know. I want to hear about the writing process, the learning the choreographies, funny recording anecdotes... Not the "So are you all single?", "Who's your crush?" for the 45th time.
the issue is that there are few good interviewers out there who would ask these questions but "fans" harass them all the time for things taken out of context. With the hate trains, their interviews also get buried in the dust- also probably because they don't have large talk shows ir youtube channels as platforms. check out rolling stone india interviews. they have some videos and some articles but they ask all the right stuff!
I means it’s Hwasa’s boobs, whether she wants to wear bra or not it is her choice why do these journalists care... artists don’t ask you if you wear bras or not
Wasn't there also a video clip of Jennie getting hated on while reading live comments but the staff in that event didn't do nothing about it even though it was clear that Jenni is hurt.
14:38 *ONE OF THE THINGS I HATE MOST IS WHEN RAPPERS/FLIP TOPPERS/UNDERGROUND RAPPERS INSULTS IDOLS FOR RAPPING AND ACTING LIKE THEY'RE FRKNG SUPERIOR.*
If they felt that what RM and Suga offered as idol rappers were not up to par with their standards as "rappers" they should've probably gave pointers or tips so they can help improve their craft. Those two were very passionate with their rapping, they shouldn't be put down just because those "rappers" felt that idols were beneath them. RM and Suga were commendable with how well they handled the interview. They cruised through those people's insecurities and remained humble, understanding despite those people being dismissive of their struggles and experiences when they were starting and most importantly, they were more mature than those who were probably twice their age. RM and Suga showed subtance while those "rappers" were just all for show.
@@xieLmeRie and I also hated the fact that instead of giving pointers/advices, they kept pointing out that idols are people who wear make-ups and are idolized by "GIRLS" and they even indirectly implied that idols don't really have that talent since they have their "make-ups" and "looks." they make so irritated and these things happen too often especially on SMTM. I can't ever forget how Vernon, B.I and bobby were treated in that show. I felt so sorry for them that it was really hard for me to finish the show.
Ppl have the audacity to just insult kpop idols like they are just talking to their enemy like if I was there with them I would beat them up so bad they will fly to mars
@@moongi852 for real! I always felt bad for the guests. Her questions was always way too personal. Like she was always trying to make em say something personal or embarrassing. She was the type to humiliate her guests with pranks and stuff and just hid it with this fake forced kindness.
@@jazzjazeemo Fr it annoyed me so much and she is also disrespect ful to people and akses weird questions Like when she asked bts if they hook up with army like eww of course not also she said that we asked that but I'm pretty sure Armys wouldn't ask that and also she can't tell them apart bc they apparently "changed there hairs"💀
Right!!! I would get in trouble for cussing out people every other day! “Stay in your lane because you don’t want this smoke” would be my bio at all times
There’s no frickin way all those “armies” didn’t think anything was off abt that question. Jin and namjoon are better dancers than they can possibly be in eternity
12:31 I understand german, and in the Interview the Interviewer said: they and us can't say anything critical , they also said: they often looked at eachother helplessly, and that the two girls on the right and left weren't the Main speakers. It's the fact they didn't even named their names, the girls looked so uncomfortable!
15:12 and years later NAMJOON'S answer, "the labels of what being masculine is, is an outdated concept. It is not our intention to break it down. But if we're making a positive impact, we are very thankful. We live in an age where we shouldn't have those labels or have those restrictions" The fact that RM and Suga, from a genre that is clearly considered to encompass shades of traditionally toxic concepts of manliness and masculinity, SAID THAT and impacted the genre in k-pop to impact it in a right way and refuse gender roles. AS IF I COULDN'T RESPECT THEM MORE 👏💜
Sorry, I want to be petty for a sec, but the woman talking about BTS with makeup. With or without makeup, they are still better looking, more talented and have touched the world more than she will ever hope to!!
What I hate the most abt fans is that they start to think that they’re friends with the idols which really Piss me off. We’re fans, their the idols. That’s it.
18:37 THIS OMG. Like black people started hip hop, yet I haven’t seen any of them say “this is not hip hop” or blah blah blah. Those dudes had no idea what they were saying. The disrespect
THATS LITERALLY WHAT I WAS SAYING WHILE WATCHING ITTTT😩🤣 Like, if a white woman (me💀) has to go, “hold up...are these 30+ year old Asian men trying to gatekeeper hip hop? When they’re not even the ones who created it???” then something is going VERY wrong😂
I'm glad hwasa handled the question very well, that reporter was so annoying and you can clearly see that the other members were super annoyed by the look in their faces.
the Minnie one always makes me so angry at the interviewer like- SIR SHE IS NOT YOUR GIRLFRIEND OR WIFE AND SHE NEVER GAVE YOU PERMISSION TO BE DOING THAT TO HER SO YOU SHOULDNT BE TOUCHING HER OR BE STARING AT HER NO-NO AREAS WHEN SHE IS CLEARLY UNCOMFORTABLE BEING NEAR YOU.
what's sad is like the channel creator said many people face this :( especially women and girls... i hope people especially men who do that get called out because this is unacceptable
Ellen: Have y'all ever got hooked up with any of the ARMY? Namjoon: We are doing it right now. Ellen: No, you know what I mean. Come on explain what hooked up means. translator: **explains** BTS minds: *I'm just gonna like pretend I didn't hear anything..* Taehyung mind: *Lets break this silence.* Taehyung: No. No no...not not.. no.
This is a great video: Doni and Coni have also been disrespectful and rude to Stray Kids. They literally said Hyunjin is a better rapper than Changbin. HOW DARE YOU? Y'all might think that's preference but they were actually putting him down. Changbin can rap faster than their WiFi. There was segment where they had to do something involving Korean , I don't exactly remember. The thing is, they deliberately picked Felix who wasn't fluent in Korean at the time. Chan asked if he could participate as he's been in Korea for 10 years so he was more fluent in the language but they refused. They yelled at Felix when he got it wrong. Chan was standing there unable to do anything. The Jihyo one reminded me of what Ryujin said about the industry. She spoke about the fact that girls HAD to be a certain size in the industry all due to appearance, not because it would help them dance or be better. JYP , I get that you may not have liked those songs but why you're acting like your way is the way to go? You didn't even listen to the entire thing. It was really disrespectful the way ARMY and the rapper treated BTS. I'm happy Namjoon and the boys went on their own path. When that reporter was asking Hwasa those questions, her Unnies be like : BITCH WHAT. I'm glad they helped her out of that tight spot
JYP is notorious for letting go some great idols who went on to be incredible without him and his company. Artists like IU, Hyolyn, Dean, GFriend's Yuju, EXO's Xiumin, EXID's Hani, BTS's J-Hope, and BTOB's Sungjae were all rejected by JYP, and several more left the company to train/debut in other companies, such as CL, Chungha, Somi, Monsta X's Shownu and BTOB's Peniel. That man clearly has a very narrow view of what good music and artistry is.
You could tell that Namjoon was trying really hard not to throw hands at the guy trying to convince them that they need to be manly if they want to be hip hop stars or be successful. I bet he probably broke down when he got home. But that's the thing I really like about Namjoon (and BTS in general)...he's so good at keeping his cool even in situations like these when he's faced with hatred and ridiculous interviewers and stupid questions. His mature mindset and steady way of thinking really makes him a great leader. He's a smart man and he isn't afraid to show passion for what he does. He really is a great influence for many people. My kids aren't going to grow up watching cartoons, they're gonna be watching Kim Namjoon. Period.
the dating questions drive me crazy. it just shows the interviewers refuse to do their homework, or else they'd realize dating rumors can ruin careers and asking about it is stupid
Just the fact that Be-free basically stereotyped hip hop as just rapping is already enough but then absolutely being completely and utterly disrespectful and rude to namjoon and Yoongi was my blowing point
BFree said that hip-hop is a lifestyle, and rapping is just rapping. Said that because BTS wear make-up on stage they're not part of the culture of hip-hop. On another note, the people who created rap and hip-hop, black Jamaicans and black-Americans, the latter specifically is supposedly full of men who are in the closet. If that's true, then hip-hop was started by and continues to be the product of gay men, like so much of the cool and fun stuff in this world.
This moment is so bad, when Ateez came back Jeju island and "fans" were literally up on their faces. Some even tripped and fell will following Seonghwa. They looked so umcomfortable, and Hongjoong looked back at his members because he was concerned. Do the not know what boundaries are, they are so annoying.
Ikr I just hate it I KNOW PEOPLE ARE EXCITED TO SEE THEIR IDOLS BUT U CAN MAKE A DISTANCE THEY R ALSP HUMANS SPECIALLY BEING A ATINY I FEEL SOOO ANRGYY😡😡
Sometimes I wonder what is the matter with some baby armys. Namjoon and Jin might rank last in the dancing skills in BTS but bruh can you even dance close to them? Their dancing skills are mindblowing af. Both Namjoon and Jin dances like gods. IDK about you all but they are not in the last rank to me. All 7 of them are equally talented in the dancing skills and talent.
I wouldn't say they are equally talented. One of the Things I love about BTS is that all 7 of them are totally unique and excell in different Things. They don't have to be as flexible as Jimin or as powerful as Hobi to still be exceptional performers and great dancers. And if you ask me it's those differences in style and personalities that complement the group perfectly. I love watching ALL of them dance and I totally adore that they are NOT the same 😌 If my comment comes of wrong btw I wanna thank you for yours. It's nice to see the people appreciating all 7 talents and I only intented to add my personal opinion :) Have a nice Day Army! 💜
@@sandrajoos8650 thank you so much for this beautiful comment. I’m very sorry if I wrote something wrong. Your comment is the literal truth. I just didn’t know I could put my feelings into words but your comment literally said all the things I wanted to say. All 7 of them are uniquely talented. That’s what make all 7 of them special in their own way. I thank you again for your kind words. It really made my day 😊
@@spacedust95 no there wasn't any need to apologize! Your comment was great and I was happy I found it :) I'm glad we agree 😊 And well it's not always easy to find the right words, isn't it? Makes me appreciate RM's talent with beautiful speeches all over again xD
@@sandrajoos8650 Yeah it's sad that people criticise Namjoon and RM for their dancing skills. Not everyone can dance equally in a group but everyone has something unique to offer. Namjoon is 4th most credited idol with over 154 songs to his name and Jin is considered the best singer with high vocal range in BTS by various critics and news outlets.
The armies that came after dynamite (not all, just a majority) pisses me off so damn much. Majority of them are solo stans, and they shit on the other members and the fandom so much, and acts like they're right. Sometimes they're worse than haters istg.
Interviewer- who among the guys is most likely to mess up one of their dance moves? Audience- screaming namjoon and jin Yoongi- I remember thinking I am abt to beat this bish up!
The worst thing about the B-free incident is that most people present there already knew Namjoon as he was quite popular as underground rapper Runch Randa , and nobody spoke up for him and his group. Joon was smooth tho , he said that B-free's close friend , a rapper also auditioned for big hit , he couldn't even make to the finals , lmao. They later even released a diss track about the incident.
Why talk about bts in an interview of got7, like their even friends. I love the way jackson handled it though. Both groups deserve to be successful not to be challenging each other
The fact that males fans of irene ended up burning her pictures and breaking /destroying albums because she was caught reading a feminist book and now with joy wearing a feminist shirt but when it's a male idol yall will preach them and shove it in everyone's face💀💀💀💀💀
It's a very sensitive norm in Korea because of past scandals with group of feminists. Females (even non-idols) who are openly "feminists" are generalised as "Anti-men". It's really sad that women are treated this way.
Lisa's face in that clip always broke my heart so much. That BTS dissrespect is make me angry but these boys shut their mouth with cypher series tho so no worry :)
The Mamamoo bra clip is interesting to watch in its entirety. You can watch Solar from having a good time to getting ready to punch someone's lights out.
I don't like it when kpop idols were being mistreated or feeling uncomfortable, they should've been treated like a star not a toy. They keep smiling even though theyre mistreated. People should respect their hard work.😤😤😤😤😤😤
I’m not Army, but it is just FACTS that BTS is known for their INSANE work ethic, their talent alone would’ve been enough but how hard they each work creatively and physically is just well known. Hip Hop is about struggle and also celebrating when the struggle pays off too. Gate keepers are awful and that interview clip had me RAAAAAGING!!!! Great call out about them gate keeping music originated by poor black Americans. Also the rap line in BTS is known for their speed and lyricism, you know “RHYTHM AND POETRY” which is what rap stands for. 🤦🏽♀️ (Goes back into her VIP/INNER CIRCLE/AGHASE lane)
The B-free thingy is messed up at so many levels. It has been years since that interview and it still shocks me that how people can be so homophobic and toxic and disrespectful. They talking about hip hop like it is something they created. Music has diversity even in one particular genre and every artist has his own way of interpreting it. The excuse of sticking to the old norms of music to belittle others is so disgusting. And the way they kept trying to drag them down and would cut them off only when joonie or yoongi tried to explain clearly showed that they were afraid that they might prove their comments invalid. Also, his way of describing idols is so problematic. It's like he thinks they aren't worthy of being rappers. Anyway, he had got his answer slapped on his face a long time ago already. And his fake ass apology wasn't sincere at all. To me, it looked as though he was scared of armys and hence chose to bow down.
I think it's insecurity when you're kind of like gate keeping the (underground) rappers by belittling those who became an idol like Namjoon and Yoongi.
BTS worked so hard to come to this position. If their dance performances are bad why all fans all over earth will love BTS. RM is a best leader.He never hurt feelings of their group.If they are real army they woild never say that someone is bad at dancing.They are fake army. BTS pure army love from 🇮🇳INDIA
Yes however lot of people in the west are in the mindset of only women wear makeup and guys can't. If they do they are mocked/harassed for it because it means they are apparently either gay or mentally unstable I know from first hand how nasty people are. However now that both kpop and drag are becoming more mainstream more people are accepting it as what it is expressing themselves and or as a form of art/job.
if u are going to do a part 3, i would include that one interview exo had with jyp where the fans were all telling the members not to ever get married or have kids , it was so disgusting and embarrassing, the members looked so shocked and annoyed. Also, pls include your commentary! i love it haha, it’s so funny and u raise a lot of good points which i enjoy listening to 🤗 idk if you’ll read this but if u do pls keep up the good work, i’m lovin ur videos! 💕
(13:00) honestly, that moment was so awkward and it goes on for like 5+ min. Like imagine how uncomfortable BTS was that entire time. The interviewer tried to make fun of BTS for thinking they had a hip hop album but being wrong and actually having a “rap album” yet he couldn’t even say why the album didn’t fit into the hip hop category. The interviewer was so fcking vague with the description of hip hop. Is hip hop only macho and loud? Being an idol doesn’t mean that your music can’t be more than generic pop music. And I do I get that it may be hard to explain categories of music but he literally had no real description. Even if it wasn’t hip hop and it was just rap, he’s arguing/making fun of a bunch of *teenagers,* that are just doing what they signed up for and worked really hard to get a spot in the group. It’s not like BTS was answering the questions rudely or they were coming off as disrespectful so there was really no reason for the interviewers to be so mean.
well for 10:45, to be fair, in Asia we called someone that is tanned, black. but not like the race 'Black'. The term 'black rose' also lost some its meaning due to language barrier.. its not a term that is used necessarily to degrade someone, especially about their skins. I dont really like doniconi, but lets not accuse them of something that we don't really understand and just putting it on them.
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thank you for speaking out about this :D
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your opinions are great brooooo
'Just cuz ur husband looks like a crusty toad'
lmao sis
This was seriously amazing. Calling out to these jeffed up asswipes should be a whole ass revolutionary movement
Fr I love that 💀
I laughed at first too, then realized it was just shaming someone who can actually exist and has done nothing wrong. Commenting on someone's appearance is not wrong only when the target is a K-pop idol. Don't do things you accuse others of, it's not cool.
@@fourteens2336 it's a joke like a taunt to a lady she wouldn't say it if she actually saw the guy
“BTS took the stairs to success and you’re still down there waiting for the elevator not knowing it’s out of order.”
One of the greatest roasts I’ve heard to date...
yes indeed
Fr I love this channel and there roasts
@@moongi852 same how she roasted for yoongi mmm hah i died
Time stamp?
@@thanishka7618 20:27 :)
Tbh all of BTS interview in their rookie year can be here. Like they got so much disrespect. Glad that Big hit realised this and started RUN BTS
Ikr they are so painful to watch gald we have RUN BTS now
I hope they appear on knowing bros someday again 😭
@@justsomegirlwithoutamousta3173 knowing bros and running man i feel like were the best. But weekly idol now has new MCs and they are so nice. So they can appear on weekly idol again
@@kingtaeminemsglasses yeah I’ve been watching weekly idol
They are really nice and considerate
@@kingtaeminemsglasses the cast of running man are literal angels. They were so nice to them..
the fact that when jimin wore a feminist shirt he received so much praise but when joy wore one netizens literally told her to leave redvelvet. same thing happened when rm was glorified for reading a feminist book and then irene got hate for it. knetz will praise a male kpop idol for supporting women then shame women for supporting women in the same breath. great now there are even double standards on feminism. ugh
I think BTS got praise bcz it was a reaction from their fandom which is largely open minded. Red velvet’s reaction was from the general Korean public. Also feminism in Korea is linked with radical women and even women superiority (sometimes) so this caused completely different reaction
bts got praised by women
redvelvet got hated by men
@@georgeoust i 1000000% agree with you
BTS has more of female fans while girl groups usually have more male fans
@L94 uhm that is only with extremists tho? In the US you have a lot of those too and in probably every other country. Like with most movements good or bad, it doesn't matter lmao
"Namjoon and Jin can easily out-dance any of you tiktok girlies"
YES QUEEN!!!
IKR!!!!
Stupid toxic tiktokers always thinking they're better than everyone 😒🙄
True
@@taslimaaktershathi7561 ikr they think they're better dancers than everyone by twerking and doing inappropriate stuff 🙄😒
You mean girl like charlie?
I still can't believe Mark ended Ellen's career. go off King.
He didn’t…did he?
what he does?
@@ashari_kavia y'll must be fun at party
"why are you curious about that?"
@@hoba2521 a line to end careers 😩
The one where that person was cursing and yelling at Lisa to see Jennie HURTS she needed a hug nobody deserves to go through that
Why wasn't he kicked out immediately???
my baby🥺
IKR
@@rowlissthebenigndrow3145 I hope so!
I'm not a blink but that was mean
Blackpink deserve better fans
I have a theory. Bfree was scared by Yoongi and Joon rapping so he wanted to bring them down but look at them now
that is not a theory. that’s facts
@@anaunicorn1158 true 😂
@@anaunicorn1158 FR bruh-
That's a fact and that's wat the whole industry tried to do to bts
Yeah toxically insecure people attack those they know are better to make themselves feel better.
When Jackson said "No, there's no competition. It's all love and support in kpop." Everyone must know / understand this.
I love that guy he's my spirit animal
The worst thing is that JYP even sold jayb's songs without letting jayb know, and to make it even worse, he inserted his own name, and took all the credits.
OK now that's just plain rude like he first rejected the songs that jayb himself wrote and he sold them as his like dude why can't he just write his own songs and release those songs written and produced by him with his name so I'm just asking myself why some people Stan him
Jayb can sue him right? This is similar to taylor swift's situation
@@janhavishigwan1347 no i think its more than Taylor swifts situation. Swift was trying to get back ownership of her masters, while jyp outright stole the songs Jayb wrote, then sold them as his own intellectual property. Swift was still named as the intellectual artist in her songs she just didn't own the masters because the contract was unfair. In Jayb’s case he isn’t listed as the person who even ever wrote them. Also Jayb is American while jyp is Korean in Korea and so also I believe the crap contracts say he owns whatever his idols and trainee’s write. Its way more difficult. Jayb has to decide if he’s willing to tie up that much money and resources for lawyers or just walk away. Since i haven’t heard of him starting legal proceedings he’s probably walking away sadly. Korean law favours the Korean over a foreigner and it doesn't matter is Jayb is Asian descent, he is American born raised and citizenship therefore he is the foreigner.
@@carolday3381 oh i see, thank you for telling me
Ikr it’s literally disgustingly behaviour
Ellen is really rude like Taeyong was so happy that he got to Ellen but what did she ask them? Glad she is getting cancelled
Really? She is?
@@rray.0.0 she has a toxic work place enviroment
Ikr-
Mark put her in place tho 😌
What she say now?
I remember when bts jimin was wearing a shirt with “we all should be feminists” written and namjoon recommended a book about women’s life in Korea people didn’thate on them. But with female idols they get hated on for the same action. Damn they really made double standards in feminism.
netizens fucking hate women, so its no shock that the double standards and blatant misogyny is rampant even still to this day, and when its women netizens doing it makes that shit even worse (and no sense whatsoever like im scratchin my head pls) like,,,the self hatred jumped out luv
@@taevante554 I also think it’s cuz BTS has a lot of female fans, people who appreciate and understand the cause. While girl groups have a lot of male fane, people who don’t always get it. Also the fact that Bts and other male idols support feminism is worthy of praise in comparison to the male fans of the girl groups, because those or the people hating on their female groups. I don’t necessarily think it’s a double standard primarily, it’s more like the different types of fans reacting differently
It's ridiculous
@@Im.me.hi. their is obviously a double standard in kpop Girl Groups have a lottt I mean a lot of female kpop stans it’s the way the netizens and anti fans react to the opposing groups
@@landdreams9704 I never denied that there are double standards and misogyny, but I’m just saying that the type of fans play a role. Not everything is about gender in kpop. You can’t tell me that the fact that male idols have more female fans does not play a role in some situations.
Ellen asking BTS if they’ve hooked up with their fans and about their dating life is so questionable. She asked it like all idols need to date their fans or give information on their dating life to be taken seriously in the west or something.
Yeah exactly, I mean her whole existence is questionable tbh
@Zym yup! we don’t claim her lol
@Zym ummmm.. let's say she just doesn't have her place in this earth , maybe in another planet ? Idk 🤔
FR that pissed me off a lot I loved taehyungs response but like I really am starting to really NOT LIKE ellen-
Also marks answer was gold~
This not the first time she did it one direction she does this to all male celebrities that come on It is disgusting
I'm so impressed by how levelheaded Suga and RM were on that "interview". I truly respect and admire them
15:40 "No, no. It's not makeup. It's a girl. It's like being a girl" istg I've never wanted to slap a guy so much in my entire life-
Lmao Kai even shaded Ellen. In a Korean show he said that he was so well prepared for the interview but it disappointed him
Lol I didn't see that interview but I can just picture him saying that. 🤣
So y’all are fine with western male celebs wearing makeup on stage, in movies, at award shows, and other events like that and you think it’s fine, but when Asian men wear makeup you call them gay? Where is your logic coming from?
homophobia and racism luv
**sigh** its always the racist mfs
classic good ol racism/homophobia, as the first person said
A lot of actors in India too wear makeup but they aren't ridiculed infact they are worshipped but when it comes to bts they are called gay and all sorts of rubbish words 😔
and they wear dress and skirts too lol
Man it hurted so much seeing ARMY'S yell Jin and Namjoon's names and tae was even telling them to stop but they continued like what's wrong with these people 😭
fake armys r too damn loud
If i was there i would've shouted none. Even if i couldn't talk anymore
@@kingtaeminemsglasses just know to bring a megaphone to these international interviews to shout over the fake white armys
@@pinkpanther6157 u r not a boring and annoying person, u r awesome and remember that 😤
@@ranboohaventstolenmygender1308 thx means a lot
😂 I love the ' just because your husband is a crooked toad doesn't mean you have to take out you anger on perfect men ' Girl you are a queen who made this video
That clip where the 2 men where after Namjoon and Yoongi, they literally said that there's music wasn't hip hop but 2 sec after 1 of them say that they never listen to there music, then how could they know it wasn't hip hop?
I freaking love got7 when they responded to that interviewer saying '' so you guys want to beat BTS '' and Bambam answered ''nononono we're friends man
And Jackson says this is not a competition it's all about love and support !''
I love them 💚
this NEEDS to be highlighted more, esp among the fans (i think). nowadays it has gotten better but the unhealthy competition may be ruining some idols' friendships
I stan their friendship
I love how MoRk called out Ellen tho
Yes. I stan. Ellen needs to be cancelled
We Stan a curious savage king 👑
@@Trm109 lmaoo
Yuss, I love how he just roasted ellen😭 She deserves to be cancelled.
Mork bee
15:49
That guy with the red bucket hat checking his phone during BFree’s shit questions is such a mood tho
Ikr Lol
The way he ignored him. I stan that guy , my spirit animal from now alongwith Yoongi 😌😌
lol jimin and yoongi are legit my spirit animals
"Namjoon and Jin can outdance any of you tiktok girlies" YES TELL THEM QUEEN WE STAN A HONEST PERSON. These damn tiktok girls who are anti kpop hate on them for no reason like c'mon its obvious they can outdance any of you their choreos are way harder than the choreos of tiktok dances
As a multi stan, there are uncountable uncomfortable interviews. So when I saw BTS' Indian interview with Sakshama, I felt so proud being an Indian cause DAMN THOSE WERE ACTUAL RESPECTFUL QUESTIONS. SAKSHAMA FOR PRIME MINISTER!!!!!
Also, pls my poor Lisa T-T someone give her a hug. Those were blonks! We blinks refuse to take them.
BTS are fine af with or without makeup and that’s just FACTS
😌✨
Exactly 💜✋
Facts
@@galaxyrain8180 Yo we talking about BTS not U!
Yessirrrr ✨
The thing which hurt me about Jihyo fat shaming was that JYP laughed too. I mean what if she ain't skinny then what? He is known for keeping up with mental health. Fat shaming is also a part of toxicity
I don't think he was laughing in an I agree kinda manner. If you look at him,he was like eyy come on. Out of all the artists that kept rooting for Jihyo in JYPe,he was at the frontmost.
IK that I felt so bad but I feel JYP's laugh was sarcastic cause he chose Jihyo himself.
I'm pretty sure that was an uncomfortable laugh lol. Just look at his expression and they way he usually laughs. The only time he wanted Jihyo to lose weight was for dancing. As a dancer, you are always told to keep at a lighter weight because it makes your moves more smooth. When you lose weight, you lose uneccessary fat which is good for your muscle mass because you can move more lightly. Your weight doesn't make you a bad dancer but if you lose the uneccessary weight, you can become better at it. He hasn't really fat shamed Jihyo like people make it seem.
JYP was face palming at what she said
I feel so bad for Jihyo and all the Idols who had gotten fat shamed or even skinny shamed. U can’t judge a person for they’re genes, not everyone was born with perfectly proportionate bodies and who cares. They let them live their lives.
JIHYO ISNT EVEN FAT NO ONE DESERVES TO BE BODYSHAMED INCLUDING JIHYO
Yah she isn't fat she is just fit !! She isn't fat
Say it loud!
If she is fat..... Then I'm a watermelon
@@thepoisonednightapple1025 yeah her body is perfect
@@kirunaps ikrr
Everytime i got low-blood, i will go back and check the B-free's part that insulted Yoongi and Namjoon. It is never fail to make my blood boil
4:08
You know Namjoon is silently seething when he brings out the fake laugh
The fact that these “army’s” didn’t even hesitate to point someone out? I’m an American army, Ive only been army for 2 months and I have more respect that that. They are all amazing dancers. And ANYONE of the boys could make a mistake? It’s no ones fault, and non of them are bad at dancing. Those are fake armys
True. I hope those army (who shouted jin and rm's names) read this or go through this video and understand better.
I don't think you should comment on someone else's skills if you can't get up and perform it perfectly yourself. I'm American Army and feel ashamed of this
@@vern100fuegos me too, as an American army I feel so bad. Other army’s are so crazy and not respectful at all
@@vern100fuegos Ikr like those were just straight up fake army's its so disgusting to even call them "armys"
I’m not an army but I’m sure Namjoon and Jin can probably outdance everyone in that room in less than 5 minutes.
Mark to Ellen: "why you always curious about this though?"
as he should
Normal question to ask idols
- what’s your favorite era your groups had so far?
- what’s your favorite concept your group has done?
-is there any concepts you would like to try??
- what do you enjoy to do it your free time?
-what are some places you would like to travel?
-what’s your favorite hair styles you’ve done?
- how did your stage names originate?
-is there foods you enjoyed in other places you traveled?
- is it hard to remember all your different choreography’s?
- what do you guys like to do together as a group?
(Some)Interviewers
- soooo have you hooked up with your fan base
- speak English😡
- you learned English from friends? So let’s talk about that the whole interview
- why y’all wear make up
- *asks them about American politics*
-*brings up old unnecessary controversies*
-*brings up body image*
-*makes them uncomfortable by staring at there legs and skirts*
-*brings bts up to every other group*
- DATING RUMORS?!?!
I wish they would ask idols actual questions not just the same 2 questions over and over or bring up unnecessary drama
Dang you should be a reporter you'll be good
Petition to make u the interviewer of all kpop idols plsss😤🙌🙌💜
@@khushiiik lol that job sounds so fun
@@tokki963 omg please become an interviewer.
We need respectful people who can ask idols the things we ACTUALLY want to know.
I want to hear about the writing process, the learning the choreographies, funny recording anecdotes... Not the "So are you all single?", "Who's your crush?" for the 45th time.
the issue is that there are few good interviewers out there who would ask these questions but "fans" harass them all the time for things taken out of context. With the hate trains, their interviews also get buried in the dust- also probably because they don't have large talk shows ir youtube channels as platforms. check out rolling stone india interviews. they have some videos and some articles but they ask all the right stuff!
17:10 BICHHH PLS - as soon as yoongi said some they all were silent🤣🤣
No cause JYP listens to like 2.5 seconds and then he’s like “It’S TOoOoOOoOo WEsTerNy”
I means it’s Hwasa’s boobs, whether she wants to wear bra or not it is her choice why do these journalists care... artists don’t ask you if you wear bras or not
Exactly
Ikrr so annoyin😑😑😑
I will never forget how selfish and disrespectful that Jennie Stan was toward Lisa in that interview video 😡
Wasn't there also a video clip of Jennie getting hated on while reading live comments but the staff in that event didn't do nothing about it even though it was clear that Jenni is hurt.
@@airamariairam yes she cried on her way back to there car I felt so bad for our nini
@Rosie's Hair more like only rosé did...
Yess the man literally cursed like wth
actually the room was soundproof, so they couldn't hear...
14:38 *ONE OF THE THINGS I HATE MOST IS WHEN RAPPERS/FLIP TOPPERS/UNDERGROUND RAPPERS INSULTS IDOLS FOR RAPPING AND ACTING LIKE THEY'RE FRKNG SUPERIOR.*
theyre literally the rappers of "I'm not like other girls"
most of the Korean rappers act like they made hip hop or something like bro no
@@redhollow9079 bruh fr and the ca just ain't it. I'm a 15 year old from NY and I'd probably fold them faster than flash.
If they felt that what RM and Suga offered as idol rappers were not up to par with their standards as "rappers" they should've probably gave pointers or tips so they can help improve their craft. Those two were very passionate with their rapping, they shouldn't be put down just because those "rappers" felt that idols were beneath them. RM and Suga were commendable with how well they handled the interview. They cruised through those people's insecurities and remained humble, understanding despite those people being dismissive of their struggles and experiences when they were starting and most importantly, they were more mature than those who were probably twice their age. RM and Suga showed subtance while those "rappers" were just all for show.
@@xieLmeRie and I also hated the fact that instead of giving pointers/advices, they kept pointing out that idols are people who wear make-ups and are idolized by "GIRLS" and they even indirectly implied that idols don't really have that talent since they have their "make-ups" and "looks." they make so irritated and these things happen too often especially on SMTM. I can't ever forget how Vernon, B.I and bobby were treated in that show. I felt so sorry for them that it was really hard for me to finish the show.
I love how Jackson is like “there is no competition” I am an Army and Aghase and this touched my heart.
I Stan a humble and smart gentleman
Ppl have the audacity to just insult kpop idols like they are just talking to their enemy like if I was there with them I would beat them up so bad they will fly to mars
Ellen's interviews are so uncomfortable most of the time. Not just idols but every celebrity that was on her show has been uncomfortable
Yeah!
So glad she was cancelled. She always left a sour taste in my mouth
@@jazzjazeemo same for me I just never liked her and how she was treating her guests and the questions she asked them🤢
@@moongi852 for real! I always felt bad for the guests. Her questions was always way too personal. Like she was always trying to make em say something personal or embarrassing. She was the type to humiliate her guests with pranks and stuff and just hid it with this fake forced kindness.
@@jazzjazeemo Fr it annoyed me so much and she is also disrespect ful to people and akses weird questions
Like when she asked bts if they hook up with army like eww of course not also she said that we asked that but I'm pretty sure Armys wouldn't ask that and also she can't tell them apart bc they apparently
"changed there hairs"💀
This is why I couldn't be a kpop idol I would be slapping people left and right it's horrible how these idols get treated😒
Right!!! I would get in trouble for cussing out people every other day! “Stay in your lane because you don’t want this smoke” would be my bio at all times
@@Sugaraf same😂 my anger issues are too bad to be a kpop idol I'm really bad at holding my tongue especially when people are being disrespectful
I wouldn't slap them. Just roll my eyes and move on
honestly I was planning to go for belift's auditions but now that u mention it your right I'd be cussing out everyone lmao
Yes i would never be a kpop idol, i am so aggressive i would probably attack some people there ahhahaha 😂😂
9:28 jin's "I'm not wrong" is making me so sad😭😭😭😭😭 they all are ✨P E R F E C T✨ those were all fake army's
I can't see our world wide handsome like tat🥺🥺..... ofcourse they all are fake armies..
@@magnaajeyam9994 yeaa 😭
@Wonton 5. Goulasch yea 😔
There’s no frickin way all those “armies” didn’t think anything was off abt that question. Jin and namjoon are better dancers than they can possibly be in eternity
this just breaks my heart
12:31 I understand german, and in the Interview the Interviewer said: they and us can't say anything critical , they also said: they often looked at eachother helplessly, and that the two girls on the right and left weren't the Main speakers. It's the fact they didn't even named their names, the girls looked so uncomfortable!
15:12 and years later NAMJOON'S answer, "the labels of what being masculine is, is an outdated concept. It is not our intention to break it down. But if we're making a positive impact, we are very thankful. We live in an age where we shouldn't have those labels or have those restrictions"
The fact that RM and Suga, from a genre that is clearly considered to encompass shades of traditionally toxic concepts of manliness and masculinity, SAID THAT and impacted the genre in k-pop to impact it in a right way and refuse gender roles. AS IF I COULDN'T RESPECT THEM MORE 👏💜
"but why are u curius about this?"
He said it for us, he is a king and he deserve all good in this life.
“Miss ma’am just cuz your husband look like an crusty toad..”got me dead 💀💀💀
Same
timestamp?
Sorry, I want to be petty for a sec, but the woman talking about BTS with makeup. With or without makeup, they are still better looking, more talented and have touched the world more than she will ever hope to!!
+ whatever their physical appearance is should not determinate their hard work or value as artists and human beings :)
pls jealousy is a disease and girlie is infested with it
What if the lady wasn't talking about BTS though? Not trying to sound rude or anything
@@xola4002 they were the only ones coming through the door
@@xola4002 even if she was not talking about bts. Make-up shaming is still wrong right
What I hate the most abt fans is that they start to think that they’re friends with the idols which really Piss me off. We’re fans, their the idols. That’s it.
I actually feel bad for rm and Suga, like those flop ppl were literally being so mean to them yoongi was faking a smile and rm was hurt :(
18:37 THIS OMG. Like black people started hip hop, yet I haven’t seen any of them say “this is not hip hop” or blah blah blah. Those dudes had no idea what they were saying. The disrespect
Im black and im into hip hop and rap, bts definitely do hiphop and they succeed at it... This man is truly irritating ..
Me to Bfree : That's a lie such a Liar that's such a hypocrite
THATS LITERALLY WHAT I WAS SAYING WHILE WATCHING ITTTT😩🤣 Like, if a white woman (me💀) has to go, “hold up...are these 30+ year old Asian men trying to gatekeeper hip hop? When they’re not even the ones who created it???” then something is going VERY wrong😂
blaxk people are literally the blueprint of kpop
I'm glad hwasa handled the question very well, that reporter was so annoying and you can clearly see that the other members were super annoyed by the look in their faces.
I loved the part at the end where She said bts took the stairs to success and you're still waiting on the elevator, not realizing it's broken, lol😂
Thanks, I'm a 'she' BTW
@@Sonyeonstan ooh dang, so so sorry!!💜
Those fans ruined an actually fun question that the members coulda joked around with.
I will never know why it is so hard for people to be respectful.
the Minnie one always makes me so angry at the interviewer like- SIR SHE IS NOT YOUR GIRLFRIEND OR WIFE AND SHE NEVER GAVE YOU PERMISSION TO BE DOING THAT TO HER SO YOU SHOULDNT BE TOUCHING HER OR BE STARING AT HER NO-NO AREAS WHEN SHE IS CLEARLY UNCOMFORTABLE BEING NEAR YOU.
UR USERNAME😭😭🖐🏽
@@tehiliahbuilds1184 its beautiful isnt it 😏
i know he is so disgusting
poor minnie :(
what's sad is like the channel creator said many people face this :( especially women and girls... i hope people especially men who do that get called out because this is unacceptable
Ellen: Have y'all ever got hooked up with any of the ARMY?
Namjoon: We are doing it right now.
Ellen: No, you know what I mean. Come on explain what hooked up means.
translator: **explains**
BTS minds: *I'm just gonna like pretend I didn't hear anything..*
Taehyung mind: *Lets break this silence.*
Taehyung: No. No no...not not.. no.
Yes
How uncomfortable joon and that translator was. Only ellen can do things like that
@@neenu2320
yeah, but covered it all with keeping it casual like he always does :(
Translator didn't even actually translate the full thing, "dated in private" is how he said it
Ohhh ...taehyung Is a good boy
This is a great video:
Doni and Coni have also been disrespectful and rude to Stray Kids. They literally said Hyunjin is a better rapper than Changbin. HOW DARE YOU? Y'all might think that's preference but they were actually putting him down. Changbin can rap faster than their WiFi.
There was segment where they had to do something involving Korean , I don't exactly remember. The thing is, they deliberately picked Felix who wasn't fluent in Korean at the time. Chan asked if he could participate as he's been in Korea for 10 years so he was more fluent in the language but they refused. They yelled at Felix when he got it wrong. Chan was standing there unable to do anything.
The Jihyo one reminded me of what Ryujin said about the industry. She spoke about the fact that girls HAD to be a certain size in the industry all due to appearance, not because it would help them dance or be better.
JYP , I get that you may not have liked those songs but why you're acting like your way is the way to go? You didn't even listen to the entire thing.
It was really disrespectful the way ARMY and the rapper treated BTS. I'm happy Namjoon and the boys went on their own path.
When that reporter was asking Hwasa those questions, her Unnies be like : BITCH WHAT. I'm glad they helped her out of that tight spot
Ikr bruh.... especially like literally every single group/soloist in JYP are humiliated. And the hwasa thing was so disrespectful, like wtf.
Binnie can Rap faster than light, Hyunjin's dancing dynamics are next level
JYP is notorious for letting go some great idols who went on to be incredible without him and his company. Artists like IU, Hyolyn, Dean, GFriend's Yuju, EXO's Xiumin, EXID's Hani, BTS's J-Hope, and BTOB's Sungjae were all rejected by JYP, and several more left the company to train/debut in other companies, such as CL, Chungha, Somi, Monsta X's Shownu and BTOB's Peniel. That man clearly has a very narrow view of what good music and artistry is.
@@hope3290 be grateful otherwise their vocals would've been ruined
@@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 Yeah, JYP would have found a way to ruin and stifle their star quality.
You could tell that Namjoon was trying really hard not to throw hands at the guy trying to convince them that they need to be manly if they want to be hip hop stars or be successful. I bet he probably broke down when he got home. But that's the thing I really like about Namjoon (and BTS in general)...he's so good at keeping his cool even in situations like these when he's faced with hatred and ridiculous interviewers and stupid questions. His mature mindset and steady way of thinking really makes him a great leader. He's a smart man and he isn't afraid to show passion for what he does. He really is a great influence for many people. My kids aren't going to grow up watching cartoons, they're gonna be watching Kim Namjoon. Period.
the dating questions drive me crazy. it just shows the interviewers refuse to do their homework, or else they'd realize dating rumors can ruin careers and asking about it is stupid
Just the fact that Be-free basically stereotyped hip hop as just rapping is already enough but then absolutely being completely and utterly disrespectful and rude to namjoon and Yoongi was my blowing point
BFree said that hip-hop is a lifestyle, and rapping is just rapping. Said that because BTS wear make-up on stage they're not part of the culture of hip-hop. On another note, the people who created rap and hip-hop, black Jamaicans and black-Americans, the latter specifically is supposedly full of men who are in the closet. If that's true, then hip-hop was started by and continues to be the product of gay men, like so much of the cool and fun stuff in this world.
This moment is so bad, when Ateez came back Jeju island and "fans" were literally up on their faces. Some even tripped and fell will following Seonghwa. They looked so umcomfortable, and Hongjoong looked back at his members because he was concerned. Do the not know what boundaries are, they are so annoying.
can i get a link please?
@@speedtalks7818 Same if you have it!! Thx
Ikr I just hate it I KNOW PEOPLE ARE EXCITED TO SEE THEIR IDOLS BUT U CAN MAKE A DISTANCE THEY R ALSP HUMANS SPECIALLY BEING A ATINY I FEEL SOOO ANRGYY😡😡
@@speedtalks7818 instagram.com/p/CPBIx_RNN1P/?
Sometimes I wonder what is the matter with some baby armys. Namjoon and Jin might rank last in the dancing skills in BTS but bruh can you even dance close to them? Their dancing skills are mindblowing af. Both Namjoon and Jin dances like gods. IDK about you all but they are not in the last rank to me. All 7 of them are equally talented in the dancing skills and talent.
I wouldn't say they are equally talented. One of the Things I love about BTS is that all 7 of them are totally unique and excell in different Things. They don't have to be as flexible as Jimin or as powerful as Hobi to still be exceptional performers and great dancers. And if you ask me it's those differences in style and personalities that complement the group perfectly. I love watching ALL of them dance and I totally adore that they are NOT the same 😌
If my comment comes of wrong btw I wanna thank you for yours. It's nice to see the people appreciating all 7 talents and I only intented to add my personal opinion :)
Have a nice Day Army! 💜
@@sandrajoos8650 thank you so much for this beautiful comment. I’m very sorry if I wrote something wrong. Your comment is the literal truth. I just didn’t know I could put my feelings into words but your comment literally said all the things I wanted to say. All 7 of them are uniquely talented. That’s what make all 7 of them special in their own way. I thank you again for your kind words. It really made my day 😊
@@spacedust95 no there wasn't any need to apologize! Your comment was great and I was happy I found it :)
I'm glad we agree 😊
And well it's not always easy to find the right words, isn't it? Makes me appreciate RM's talent with beautiful speeches all over again xD
@@sandrajoos8650 Yeah it's sad that people criticise Namjoon and RM for their dancing skills. Not everyone can dance equally in a group but everyone has something unique to offer. Namjoon is 4th most credited idol with over 154 songs to his name and Jin is considered the best singer with high vocal range in BTS by various critics and news outlets.
The armies that came after dynamite (not all, just a majority) pisses me off so damn much. Majority of them are solo stans, and they shit on the other members and the fandom so much, and acts like they're right. Sometimes they're worse than haters istg.
Interviewer- who among the guys is most likely to mess up one of their dance moves?
Audience- screaming namjoon and jin
Yoongi- I remember thinking
I am abt to beat this bish up!
The fact they feel they have to put on a fake smile or laugh it off is even more sad😢
The worst thing about the B-free incident is that most people present there already knew Namjoon as he was quite popular as underground rapper Runch Randa , and nobody spoke up for him and his group.
Joon was smooth tho , he said that B-free's close friend , a rapper also auditioned for big hit , he couldn't even make to the finals , lmao. They later even released a diss track about the incident.
which song is the diss ??😳
@@hailybuchanan5680 Cypher
Ah yes the lejindary Cypher is born. Im partially thanking him but also wanna go off on him
Why talk about bts in an interview of got7, like their even friends. I love the way jackson handled it though. Both groups deserve to be successful not to be challenging each other
The fact that males fans of irene ended up burning her pictures and breaking /destroying albums because she was caught reading a feminist book and now with joy wearing a feminist shirt but when it's a male idol yall will preach them and shove it in everyone's face💀💀💀💀💀
It's a very sensitive norm in Korea because of past scandals with group of feminists. Females (even non-idols) who are openly "feminists" are generalised as "Anti-men". It's really sad that women are treated this way.
@@amcxx9530 Korea is such a progressive country in terms of technology but they’re views are so regressive.
You literally said it, it was her male Korean fans doing it. The majority of her female fans praised her too.
Ellen: Do you have a girlfriend?
Me: Bold of you to assume that I'm straight🙄🙄🙄🙄
The:” ma’am just bcuz your husband is a crusty toad” I diedddd
Please can people just learn to respect others? It's not that hard.
Ellen's show needs to stop airing.
It's getting cancelled!
@@Sonyeonstan Time to celebrate 🎉😀
@@Sonyeonstan YAYYYYY PARTY PARTY YEAHHHH 😌🎉🎉🎉🎉
I'm so afraid because she is gonna interview Twice ;-;
@@cieloabierto1000 wait wut
Lisa's face in that clip always broke my heart so much. That BTS dissrespect is make me angry but these boys shut their mouth with cypher series tho so no worry :)
I am so disappointed in that solo stan of Jennie that hurt Lisa's feelings.
The Mamamoo bra clip is interesting to watch in its entirety. You can watch Solar from having a good time to getting ready to punch someone's lights out.
I don't like it when kpop idols were being mistreated or feeling uncomfortable, they should've been treated like a star not a toy. They keep smiling even though theyre mistreated. People should respect their hard work.😤😤😤😤😤😤
I’m not Army, but it is just FACTS that BTS is known for their INSANE work ethic, their talent alone would’ve been enough but how hard they each work creatively and physically is just well known. Hip Hop is about struggle and also celebrating when the struggle pays off too. Gate keepers are awful and that interview clip had me RAAAAAGING!!!!
Great call out about them gate keeping music originated by poor black Americans.
Also the rap line in BTS is known for their speed and lyricism, you know “RHYTHM AND POETRY” which is what rap stands for. 🤦🏽♀️
(Goes back into her VIP/INNER CIRCLE/AGHASE lane)
Oh my goshhh I purple you😭💜
The B-free thingy is messed up at so many levels. It has been years since that interview and it still shocks me that how people can be so homophobic and toxic and disrespectful. They talking about hip hop like it is something they created. Music has diversity even in one particular genre and every artist has his own way of interpreting it. The excuse of sticking to the old norms of music to belittle others is so disgusting. And the way they kept trying to drag them down and would cut them off only when joonie or yoongi tried to explain clearly showed that they were afraid that they might prove their comments invalid. Also, his way of describing idols is so problematic. It's like he thinks they aren't worthy of being rappers. Anyway, he had got his answer slapped on his face a long time ago already. And his fake ass apology wasn't sincere at all. To me, it looked as though he was scared of armys and hence chose to bow down.
Mhm..Ikr.
I think it's insecurity when you're kind of like gate keeping the (underground) rappers by belittling those who became an idol like Namjoon and Yoongi.
That ENTIRE interview with the Namjoon and Jin situation was a whole wreck those fans were so embarrassing
3:49 i shouldn't be smiling rn but that was srsly smooth kim namjoon i-
BTS worked so hard to come to this position. If their dance performances are bad why all fans all over earth will love BTS. RM is a best leader.He never hurt feelings of their group.If they are real army they woild never say that someone is bad at dancing.They are fake army.
BTS pure army love from 🇮🇳INDIA
It's 2021 and yet men still don't understand what feminism is about...
Style girl saying BTS is wearing makeup makes me mad because I’m oretty sure she stuffed her face makeup too.
FRR 💀
Yes however lot of people in the west are in the mindset of only women wear makeup and guys can't. If they do they are mocked/harassed for it because it means they are apparently either gay or mentally unstable I know from first hand how nasty people are. However now that both kpop and drag are becoming more mainstream more people are accepting it as what it is expressing themselves and or as a form of art/job.
yes, fighting make up shaming with make up shaming! brilliant!
The fact that she will look so different without makeup but bts members barely have a difference in appearance just makes he sound dumb
20:27 My favorite part is when they said "BTS took the stairs while you waited at the elevator not knowing it was out of order" 😂
I love how u put flop rapper beside bfree
That suits him really well
And the worst part is when the interviewers talk over the stars like-
LET👏🏼THEM👏🏼SPEAK👏🏼
"just like your husband looks like a crusty toad..." I AM HOWLINGGGG
"BTS took the stairs and you're down there, still waiting for the elevator"
I frickin love that so much
if u are going to do a part 3, i would include that one interview exo had with jyp where the fans were all telling the members not to ever get married or have kids , it was so disgusting and embarrassing, the members looked so shocked and annoyed. Also, pls include your commentary! i love it haha, it’s so funny and u raise a lot of good points which i enjoy listening to 🤗 idk if you’ll read this but if u do pls keep up the good work, i’m lovin ur videos! 💕
Yess I was also thinking about thattttt
Yaasss!!! Also include when NCT 127 were called BTS and Mark said Sorry about not being BTS it really breaks my heart😢
@@kitashinsuke9790 yes it was so heart breaking 😔
@@kitashinsuke9790 omg yeh 😭😭😭 bless him
I remember that! EXO really look at them like "who the fuck do y'all think you are? We don't even know you."
"Namjoon and Jin can out-dance any of you tiktok girlies." LOL PREACH!!
The lady who shamelessly told jihyo that she's fat is such a horrible person
Hell is getting ready for her welcome
Me who fell in love with Jihyo from the moment I saw her on likey music video 👀👄👀
Totally related.... probably that lady is jealous of her..😕😂
Every time I watch the bfree clip my blood boils
Legit it makes me want to go on a rant everytime
@@CatPrice94 same I have to restrain myself 😂
I really feel proud on Mark when he say why are you curious about this all thought
those interviewers who was insulting rm and suga....will be wiping their butts off and crying with tht shit now💩🥱
I'm just sooooo proud of Mark how he said it to Ellen's face like swaggy smooth thank you Mark sooo much!
(13:00) honestly, that moment was so awkward and it goes on for like 5+ min. Like imagine how uncomfortable BTS was that entire time. The interviewer tried to make fun of BTS for thinking they had a hip hop album but being wrong and actually having a “rap album” yet he couldn’t even say why the album didn’t fit into the hip hop category. The interviewer was so fcking vague with the description of hip hop. Is hip hop only macho and loud? Being an idol doesn’t mean that your music can’t be more than generic pop music.
And I do I get that it may be hard to explain categories of music but he literally had no real description. Even if it wasn’t hip hop and it was just rap, he’s arguing/making fun of a bunch of *teenagers,* that are just doing what they signed up for and worked really hard to get a spot in the group. It’s not like BTS was answering the questions rudely or they were coming off as disrespectful so there was really no reason for the interviewers to be so mean.
Please include your commentary in Part 3! You bring up points that I never thought of before so it’s good to hear
When Mark speak up in Ellen i was like *YaSH MaN*
well for 10:45, to be fair, in Asia we called someone that is tanned, black. but not like the race 'Black'. The term 'black rose' also lost some its meaning due to language barrier.. its not a term that is used necessarily to degrade someone, especially about their skins. I dont really like doniconi, but lets not accuse them of something that we don't really understand and just putting it on them.