@ but he also self bleeds a lot thats why hes the tankiest on paper because in battle he will basically lose hp every turn (but he does have heals so it kinda counters it a bit)
Even as a normal bleed unit I feel he is a pretty useful jack of all trades, applying both count and potency at reasonable amounts while also being tanky and even providing some SP for the team. but yeah, as a Bloodfiend ID he is going to be invaluable as a bloodfeast generator. His kit is also pretty thematically cohesive with his story like you said which is always super cool to see. Last time we had a character that had their kit this linked to their personality was captain Ish, and she is easily one of the best designed IDs imo so I'm glad PM is doing more stuff like this.
Yeah, with bloody mist+other gifts his s3 hits like a truck=heals a ton. So it’s not unusual that he almost die in 1 turn, then gets full hp in the next turn.
This is notable because he is one of the only IDs in the game that can pretty reliably use nsault support passive in MD so hey that's just free atk power and protection
@@noishfanboy1141 it’s a nice idea. It’s just that bleed team is mostly lust res, not wrath res. If nsaul changes from wrath res to wrath owned, it would be much more viable.
I didn't know that and upgraded Smoke and Wires to max, and he does like, 20%+ on himself whole damn time, I didn't defense to gain ailing heart nor to defend from enemies, he is defending himself from killing himself
Personally I really like his gimmick, it’s clear that he’s gonna help out the bloodfeast by a lot for future bloodfiend IDs, but I think the self bleed in mirror dungeons could be removed because 70 self bleed is kinda insane 😭😭 EDIT: Forgot to specify the self bleed only for EGO gifts like something they did with Ring Sang
@ True, but unless you’re giving him 2-3 extra slots, he’s not gonna have his skill 3 all too often, and when he applies himself extra bleed due to ego gifts, and for example fighting Casetti that applies extra bleed count, he will wither himself away
@@saisenohe heals soo much that even at extremely low health like 20% he can heal almost to full in a single skill incredibly easily, and with Ego gifts its a near guarantee.
People dont realise how busted he as his s3 heals FULL HP like ALWAYS His passive is always preventing him from insta death at least once (so he practically cant die) he also over all really huge resistance and hp unit Dont forget his clashes are big and damage is actually pretty much a nuke (also he gives SO MUCH bloodfeast count, which is incredibly busted if you have other bloodfiend ids, and in fact even more bloodfiend ids will be released soon)
so you know how some games have characters that just happen to write the story itself because of the design of the character? well here in limbus company the story writes the gameplay of the character 😂 god i love pm
I saw him loose a crap ton of health, and then regenerated it really quickly, def tank with the one stagger bar, but he can basically just survive forever
Cassetti is a 6th kindred the hell is he gonna do? He's like a coughing baby to any bloodfiends we encounter in La Manchaland Dulcinea on the other hand is possible since Rodya mirror her in that world.
@seraph6975 Cassetti might be a 6th Kindred but he is still a very important character in the story. He didn't get an ID in the WARP Train event so I expect him to get one now because he did get mentioned a lot in part 2. He also played a very important role in the Parade as the Prince together with Dulcinea as the Princess. He might be a 00 but I hope for him to be a 000 ID.
@@gwyndodrichUh yeah not really since were getting Rodin next then most likely Sancho for story ID in this canto since were go higher not lower with the kindred. Keep in mind Casstie is still weaker than the others starved or not Hell one of the main reasons why we were able to fight the higher Kindred at all cause they were weakened in the first place.
@@clswtz I took Smokes and Wires in MDR solo run right at the last floor by accident, and that last floor was the warp train... Getting hit by attacks that inflict count meant literal death. 50 bleed potency on one use of skill 1.
I just stated before otis swapped out, but got her, then I missed this one... But got the princess... Sounds like joj of la manchaland. Oh also I found my way here through Factory... It was surprising conveyor belt to sit through. Old and new faces on the way. Surprising...
I dig his drip and from my testing he just keeps killing and healing himself going from half to full health between the turns. This can be super annoying when he loses a clash and gets insta staggered but well, I like high risk high reward style of ID. Once again we see that bloodfiends need the whole family to function fully. Two vampires lets Outis ramp faster but not fast enough for my taste, at least yet. Need to see Dulcinea and Sancho. I have very small hope that we will get a bonus one as Don Quixote himself... but no idea who would that even be and honestly I will just be happy with super cool Sancho. Which we will probably have to wait for.... for a long time. Just like always. They will keep teasing and edging us. Cpt Ish and Wild Hunt Heath tested my patience but Sancho will distort me.
Ironically Bleed seems to be his greatest weakness because if he's going up against enemies that inflict Bleed he's almost guaranteed to die or to go really low.
Just get him staggered early on so you dont have to deal with it anymore his stagger threshold is high as hell and his second one is bassicaly non existent
He's fun to use, but he's so slow that it's hard to find a place in the game where he can truly shine without the rest of my team finishing the fight before he gets to do anything.
I would say it’s very helpful It allows him to use his shield for ailing heart as well as self health when below 40 percent And a constant 5 bloodfeast when above 40 So it’s always mechanically useful Since without the ailing heart buff you usually just gonna bleed yourself to death
You mainly lose out on: Coin power in his s2 -A little more coin power in his s3 -S3 doesn't have the reuse coin line -Combat passive doesn't have the sp heal line There may be some other little differences between ut3 and ut4, but you can check them by clicking in the III and IV buttons when inspecting an ID on their extraction banner
Hmm, the passive that keeps you alive for one turn is nice, but I assume you have to use an ego to heal up next turn, as all your skills will make you bleed out, else edit : s3 heals on use, so this one should be safe
Really fun to play, his main issue is that he is not gonna be useful for much other than sp healing and some tanking outside of BF. Sadly he's not the godsend Gregor ID we've been waiting for. His whole purpose is fueling bloodfiends.
@@strangevol5264usually pretty good though can be a bit rough if the enemy has bleed count up Then again as long as you get a few skill 3 the amount of HP you get back is usually more then enough to defeat most enemies while topping yourself off
@@strangevol5264 Yes and no. I posted one on my channel but basically he's gonna stagger on the first turn, he has no evade. So you have to survive 2 turns, one of those being with fatal damage. If you can do that (and you don't have bleed count on you from the boss) then yeah he should do fine and heal back.
@chillazero oh yeah, just like whistles, he does provide good SP healing. But, Dawn Sinclair requires more SP healing as time goes on because he loses more per consecutive turn in his form. The thing is Priest Gregor starts at turn 0 healing 10 (if you are in a dungeon and already have the resources), then every turn that amount diminishes. Whistles is still the better status but it is admittedly very strong.
dulcinea and sancho reaaaaally have to pull out some crazy unique bleed or something to save bleed because theres just NO COUNT ANYWHERE, RAHHHHHHHHHHH also he's very cool and I would love to use him, but for now I guess I'll go back and grab Devyat Rodya instead because I still don't have a use for bleed...
From what we've seen sancho nukes bleed count, a lot of her skills activated bleed once and used up 1 bleed count and one skill in particular uses all bleed count on target to activate bleed as many times, leaving the bleed count to 1. So we need a new id/ego that inflicts a lot of bleed count
@@izanagi2488 Ring Sang won't get half your skill slots tho to make up for everyone else not applying any count or only coming out neutral at best (usually negative like with this ID)
@ Hmm, I usually bypass count issues with Ring Sang + N Faust (Nails) and even Harpooner Cliff when he gets his poise up. After Ring Sang, I never actually had problems with Bleed application in both normal content and even Railway runs.
I'm at BP level 460 already so I just shared him. Probably leaving him at UT3 tho since I want to grab everything I don't have first and uh, Gregor seems to be cursed with mid IDs
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funny how gregor can go from sickly and feeble man (linton gregor) to literally the tankiest (on paper) ID in the game (pregor)
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@ you know its like priest and gregor totally no other meanings ha ha… ha
@@larsthememelord3383 still sounds kinda sus
He is literally the tankiest rn as he has the most HP out of all identities too i believe
@ but he also self bleeds a lot thats why hes the tankiest on paper because in battle he will basically lose hp every turn (but he does have heals so it kinda counters it a bit)
Even as a normal bleed unit I feel he is a pretty useful jack of all trades, applying both count and potency at reasonable amounts while also being tanky and even providing some SP for the team. but yeah, as a Bloodfiend ID he is going to be invaluable as a bloodfeast generator.
His kit is also pretty thematically cohesive with his story like you said which is always super cool to see. Last time we had a character that had their kit this linked to their personality was captain Ish, and she is easily one of the best designed IDs imo so I'm glad PM is doing more stuff like this.
You're wrong as hell, he actually make quite a lot of bloodfeast as per my tests
@@jasonmagnes4467 Thats what I said? I called him a bloodfeast generator i.e. someone who generates a lot of bloodfeast.
But you said he was invaluable as a blood feast generator?@@dumbino7745
@@dumbino7745 oh right invaluable is not a negative term, my bad i ain't english haha
@@jasonmagnes4467 its cool. I make mistakes like that too lol.
Basically, he is his enemy and his friend
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i caved because I'm an avid healing passive collector 🥵🥵🥵
Preist gregor basically says If the enemy wont feed us, I Will
his self bleed also get boosted in mirror dungeon's ego gift such as bloody mist so his hp fluctuate really crazy there
Yeah, with bloody mist+other gifts his s3 hits like a truck=heals a ton. So it’s not unusual that he almost die in 1 turn, then gets full hp in the next turn.
This is notable because he is one of the only IDs in the game that can pretty reliably use nsault support passive in MD so hey that's just free atk power and protection
@@noishfanboy1141 it’s a nice idea. It’s just that bleed team is mostly lust res, not wrath res. If nsaul changes from wrath res to wrath owned, it would be much more viable.
I didn't know that and upgraded Smoke and Wires to max, and he does like, 20%+ on himself whole damn time, I didn't defense to gain ailing heart nor to defend from enemies, he is defending himself from killing himself
Personally I really like his gimmick, it’s clear that he’s gonna help out the bloodfeast by a lot for future bloodfiend IDs, but I think the self bleed in mirror dungeons could be removed because 70 self bleed is kinda insane 😭😭
EDIT: Forgot to specify the self bleed only for EGO gifts like something they did with Ring Sang
he can easily heal himself back up by using shield or ss3 though
@ True, but unless you’re giving him 2-3 extra slots, he’s not gonna have his skill 3 all too often, and when he applies himself extra bleed due to ego gifts, and for example fighting Casetti that applies extra bleed count, he will wither himself away
@@saisenohe heals soo much that even at extremely low health like 20% he can heal almost to full in a single skill incredibly easily, and with Ego gifts its a near guarantee.
If Erlking takes kys one way then Prigor takes kys the other way around
@@Alterior245anyone who applies bleed count would cook up preist gregor. Was sturggling agaisnt some of the n corp minions when soloing in riterrlo
amen to this priest , dulcinea and sancho next please
good thing about him nukeing himself is that the bleed dmg he takes also gives you bloodfeast early not a lot but some
I returned to the game just for this ID; 100% worth.
People dont realise how busted he as
his s3 heals FULL HP like ALWAYS
His passive is always preventing him from insta death at least once (so he practically cant die)
he also over all really huge resistance and hp unit
Dont forget his clashes are big and damage is actually pretty much a nuke
(also he gives SO MUCH bloodfeast count, which is incredibly busted if you have other bloodfiend ids, and in fact even more bloodfiend ids will be released soon)
Gregor finally has some options for good IDs
but why are they the ones wearing the suits
Well, lots of people just waste his s3 with winrate button, then they complain that he dies too fast+his ho healing can’t outdone the bleed damage.
I have gotten every greg 3 star not even by choice cant wait to get spooked by this one
so you know how some games have characters that just happen to write the story itself because of the design of the character? well here in limbus company the story writes the gameplay of the character 😂
god i love pm
I saw him loose a crap ton of health, and then regenerated it really quickly, def tank with the one stagger bar, but he can basically just survive forever
Dulcinea and Cassetti banner next will save us all
Cassetti is a 6th kindred the hell is he gonna do? He's like a coughing baby to any bloodfiends we encounter in La Manchaland
Dulcinea on the other hand is possible since Rodya mirror her in that world.
@seraph6975 Cassetti might be a 6th Kindred but he is still a very important character in the story. He didn't get an ID in the WARP Train event so I expect him to get one now because he did get mentioned a lot in part 2. He also played a very important role in the Parade as the Prince together with Dulcinea as the Princess. He might be a 00 but I hope for him to be a 000 ID.
@@seraph6975but unlike cassetti, all of the other kindreds are nearly starving to death
@@gwyndodrichUh yeah not really since were getting Rodin next then most likely Sancho for story ID in this canto since were go higher not lower with the kindred. Keep in mind Casstie is still weaker than the others starved or not Hell one of the main reasons why we were able to fight the higher Kindred at all cause they were weakened in the first place.
@@leoshikishi6308 I think we getting Cassetti ID along with Dulcinea, and Cassetti is gonna be 00 ID
Just... be careful in MD. His self bleed is effected by ego gifts if you are not careful, he will DIE via self inflicted damage.
Barely survived last floor of MDR solo bc of this
no it's really hard to die in MD even with the self inflicted damage lol
@@clswtz I took Smokes and Wires in MDR solo run right at the last floor by accident, and that last floor was the warp train...
Getting hit by attacks that inflict count meant literal death. 50 bleed potency on one use of skill 1.
@@Cyridi31 do you not have him at UT4?
@@clswtz Ofc, instantly UT4 on release
I just stated before otis swapped out, but got her, then I missed this one... But got the princess...
Sounds like joj of la manchaland.
Oh also I found my way here through Factory... It was surprising conveyor belt to sit through. Old and new faces on the way. Surprising...
I just got him I think it'll be a good idea to save up for future Bloodfiends cause I also have Braber outis
Fan from Russia, thanks for subtitles
I dig his drip and from my testing he just keeps killing and healing himself going from half to full health between the turns. This can be super annoying when he loses a clash and gets insta staggered but well, I like high risk high reward style of ID.
Once again we see that bloodfiends need the whole family to function fully. Two vampires lets Outis ramp faster but not fast enough for my taste, at least yet. Need to see Dulcinea and Sancho. I have very small hope that we will get a bonus one as Don Quixote himself... but no idea who would that even be and honestly I will just be happy with super cool Sancho. Which we will probably have to wait for.... for a long time. Just like always. They will keep teasing and edging us. Cpt Ish and Wild Hunt Heath tested my patience but Sancho will distort me.
Would be really funny to have a Sinclair Sancho
Ironically Bleed seems to be his greatest weakness because if he's going up against enemies that inflict Bleed he's almost guaranteed to die or to go really low.
Just get him staggered early on so you dont have to deal with it anymore his stagger threshold is high as hell and his second one is bassicaly non existent
Any news on which character gets the bleed ID next?
dulcinea rodion is almost certainly next
Dulcinea Rodya unless they pivot towards General/S0 units I think with MD (maybe) coming in two weeks or less.
Probably Rodion
He's fun to use, but he's so slow that it's hard to find a place in the game where he can truly shine without the rest of my team finishing the fight before he gets to do anything.
Is his ut4 necessary???
I would say it’s very helpful
It allows him to use his shield for ailing heart as well as self health when below 40 percent
And a constant 5 bloodfeast when above 40
So it’s always mechanically useful
Since without the ailing heart buff you usually just gonna bleed yourself to death
You mainly lose out on:
Coin power in his s2
-A little more coin power in his s3
-S3 doesn't have the reuse coin line
-Combat passive doesn't have the sp heal line
There may be some other little differences between ut3 and ut4, but you can check them by clicking in the III and IV buttons when inspecting an ID on their extraction banner
Hmm, the passive that keeps you alive for one turn is nice, but I assume you have to use an ego to heal up next turn, as all your skills will make you bleed out, else
edit : s3 heals on use, so this one should be safe
This is the first real Gregor ID that benefits hard from Suddenly One Day (passive)
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sancho id when??? T~T
Really fun to play, his main issue is that he is not gonna be useful for much other than sp healing and some tanking outside of BF. Sadly he's not the godsend Gregor ID we've been waiting for. His whole purpose is fueling bloodfiends.
He’s incredible for solos though, no?
@@strangevol5264usually pretty good though can be a bit rough if the enemy has bleed count up
Then again as long as you get a few skill 3 the amount of HP you get back is usually more then enough to defeat most enemies while topping yourself off
@@strangevol5264 Yes and no. I posted one on my channel but basically he's gonna stagger on the first turn, he has no evade. So you have to survive 2 turns, one of those being with fatal damage. If you can do that (and you don't have bleed count on you from the boss) then yeah he should do fine and heal back.
I see 5 Lust owned SP heal passive and immediately think Dawnclair support, surely he has his uses
@chillazero oh yeah, just like whistles, he does provide good SP healing. But, Dawn Sinclair requires more SP healing as time goes on because he loses more per consecutive turn in his form. The thing is Priest Gregor starts at turn 0 healing 10 (if you are in a dungeon and already have the resources), then every turn that amount diminishes. Whistles is still the better status but it is admittedly very strong.
dulcinea and sancho reaaaaally have to pull out some crazy unique bleed or something to save bleed because theres just NO COUNT ANYWHERE, RAHHHHHHHHHHH
also he's very cool and I would love to use him, but for now I guess I'll go back and grab Devyat Rodya instead because I still don't have a use for bleed...
From what we've seen sancho nukes bleed count, a lot of her skills activated bleed once and used up 1 bleed count and one skill in particular uses all bleed count on target to activate bleed as many times, leaving the bleed count to 1. So we need a new id/ego that inflicts a lot of bleed count
Yeah, but Ring Sang inflicts count anyways. And a large amount of it, too.
@@izanagi2488 Ring Sang won't get half your skill slots tho to make up for everyone else not applying any count or only coming out neutral at best (usually negative like with this ID)
@ Hmm, I usually bypass count issues with Ring Sang + N Faust (Nails) and even Harpooner Cliff when he gets his poise up. After Ring Sang, I never actually had problems with Bleed application in both normal content and even Railway runs.
Hello... is this a good unit to pull for if I started the game like 3 days ago?
yes
Did I miss something? How is the priest a third kindred when he was sired by Quixote who is a first kindred, that doesn`t make any sense
He is Dulcinea child, every kindred calls Don father cause he is the family leader
the barber and priest are both dulcineas kindreds
I'm at BP level 460 already so I just shared him. Probably leaving him at UT3 tho since I want to grab everything I don't have first and uh, Gregor seems to be cursed with mid IDs
I don't see barber outis will do anything at this point.
Gregor is bloodfeast enabler, meaning you'll be able to charge barber outis a lot faster
@XIITHM69 Till higher kindred IDs come out like Dulci Rodion and Sancho Don. When that happens then uh, Barber Outis will starve again
Ring outis remains best outis
@@cccbbbaaa110 Objectively correct! 5 bleed count on skill 2 with 4 coins is too powerful to not use
absolutely, but i would give the barber some time, she has the potential to shine when you dont need to worry about bleed count