This is so true and we were taught decades ago to "lift with your legs, not your back" but rarely did. I'm 65 and once when bent over with my back, I lifted a bucket of water and my lower back didn't like that. Next time I straightened my back and lifted the bucket with my legs and had ZERO back pain! Always work smart especially as a senior.....kids, you'll find out.
Stretching is different. Notice that when you're stretching you send a clear signal to the brain of "stretching"= relaxation) You want to release the stress caused by the right posture. You want to be comfortable when you're stretching, but stressed out (muscularly speaking) when lifting. Although you can use light weight to stretch and reach a broader range...
+Cristian Rodriguez Not really, bending the spine like the video shows is dangerous, no matter if it's a stretch or not. Also, stretching with light weights and extreme ranges of motion is risky and, in my opinion, a recipe for disaster.
MDrummer Not at all, a healthy spine can handle a body weight stretch in flexion. Look how kids move and bend/bow, I guess the problem comes with time.
Fjerid yes you do. Gymnasts have been doing that for a long time, look up the Jefferson Curl exercise, it's really good for you. People work up to over 60kg with a fully rounded spine.
Hi ! Where can I find more videos like this one about injury mechanisms ? I have both of your apps about Anatomy and Strenght training but can’t seem to find them.
1:30 anyone did these before and had pain, deadlifts? I think i over neutralise my spine, thinking my neutral wasnt neutral so i exaggerate it. And now im on my 3rd week recovering from that injury
You probably shouldn't have pain doing that watch this video it might help, the guy knows what he is talking about and is a great teacher. ua-cam.com/video/hCDzSR6bW10/v-deo.html just make sure you've got form right with a lift like deadlifts, you can injure yourself pretty badly and permanently if you don't.
Our spine is designed to lift objects and we have muscles for that,if we can rotate our spine via our obliques muscles then it is natural and familiar for the human body,we just need to determine what is too much and how to deal with it ?
Please check out what Dr.Stuart McGill as currently the most asked expert on spine health says about twisting and bending the spine under the load. Thank me later.
@@santyx_eorrr I read the critics of his views but most of them misinterpreted him. Since I have no interest in defending me or his views I would be thankfull if you could elaborate your statement and provide some sources of the critics you mentioned. Best regards
@@slavencica the paper named "the risks and rewards of lumbar spine flexion during lifting exercises" by Greg Lehman and Louis Howe (2021) provides a solid overview of the current evidence
@@santyx_eorrr So I checked the source and I found that I read it already earlier. It's one of the main misconceptions and it creates a new myth trying to beat another. By the way McGill never said that you should avoid flexion alltogether. The study is focusing on the shear force alone, but that's not the whole picture (disk damage just to name another piece of the puzzle). It is also interesting that Greg is also a student of McGill. I work with hundreds of patients on weekly basis and what I see among back patients is total lack of lumbar motion control and stifness. The muscles around the spine have primarly postural role and they resist the rotation in order to enable force transfer from other part of the body such as hips and shoulder through linkage. Failing to adopt hip-hinge technique for specific working tasks leads into further problems. I can write whole day about this but you can check following links for more info: Misconceptions around McGill Method: ericbowman03.blogspot.com/2018/03/the-mcgill-method-common-misconceptions.html?m=1 Interesting debate here: www.physio-network.com/blog/lumbar-flexion-during-lifting/ Cheers
Now when, the people from the place I work at, start saying I’m gonna get a back injury if I keep deadlifting, again. I’m gonna show them this video to shut them up.
1:26 what name this muscle? Я так понимаю это для простоты восприятия нарисовали несуществующие мышцы? Или я чего то не понимаю. Этих мышц нет в анатомическом атласе. Ролик очень полезный спасибо 👍🤝
Hey David, Why do you think that the title is CLICKBAIT? If you can share with us your thought it'd be great, please email us to info@muscleandmotion.com and we will reply ASAP!
@@MuscleandMotion The video title is, "How to avoid injuries while lifting..." but you don't discuss how to avoid injuries. At 2:03 it looks like you're finally getting to the subject, "What should we do to avoid these issues," and then at 2:06, "What is the proper technique for lifting a weight off the floor," but then at 2:08 "In our upcoming video," reveals that this video is just a teaser, and does not answer the subject of the title, "How to avoid injuries while lifting." I have noticed other Muscle and Motion videos on UA-cam follow this same format. You state the problem eloquently with clever graphics, but then refer the viewer to what turns out to be paid content.
0:36: "in a fully flexed spine, the erector spinae muscles are almost at a complete rest"??? maybe when you curl your legs up in the bed, not when against gravity!
But the abs are also concerned by the anterior shear force,it reduces the weight on ligaments when contracted,and the abs are really well recruted when the spine is flexed,so it reduces the tension on the ligaments,the problem is not rounding but having muscles in the mid-section too weak to withstand the anterior shear force for the abs for example.
+ZAZZ313 Late reply. Keep doing that stretch it's very usefull for the hamstrings and hipflexors, you need to learn to tilt / bend at the hips instead of the lower back. When you do this exercise correctly you already need to be very flexible to hit horizontal chest facing the ground. To bend at the hips you need to stand straight then bend at the hips keep your upperbody normal don't arch.
just eat 500 calories over your maintenance metabolic rate eat 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight you weight and spread it out every 4 hours because your body can only absorb 30 to 40 grams at a time don't take longer than 2 minutes in between sets and lift weight that's so heavy you can only do it 10 times and constantly check you self to see if you can do it more than 10 like 15 reps and then go up like 5 or 10 pounds or so also get 8 hours of sleep... done... get housed.
Fair warning to anyone watching this - this video is very outdated based on current evidence. The idea that your lower back magically disintegrates with any loading doesn't make logical sense (every structure in the body adapts to loading/gets stronger as a result EXCEPT the lumbar spine?) also the claims that repeated flexion of the spine is a risk factor for disk herniation comes from studies done on dead pig spines that were repeatedly flexed (sometimes up to 70,000 times!). Those spines have no blood supply/muscle tissue surrounding them and therefore have no ability to adapt to the stimulus (repeated flexion). Also the spine is never neutral when performing lifts like the squat/deadlift/kettlebell swing, so saying your back needs to be straight to keep your spine neutral and therefore protected doesn't make sense either - we have quality evidence showing that even if the back LOOKS straight - the spine is actually flexing far outside the neutral zone during these exercises. Read the journal article "Getting out of neutral: the risks and rewards of lumbar spine flexion during lifting exercises" by Lehman & Howe (2021) for the evidence on this topic - you can find it on researchgate. TLDR; Your back is strong! Don't be afraid of natural human movements.
This is misleading. It's not bad to move like that if the weight is relatively light. If you can deadlift 140kg then a 20kg plate is very little and most likely is entirely fine for you to lift with a very rounded back. Secondly you can train your muscles to be strong in a rounded position. It is possible to safely lift very heavy deadlifts with a rounded back, many thousands of powerlifters do it with no issues: so long as you're not near the limit of your spinal flexion you're probably fine. If you want an even more extreme example, look up the Jefferson Curl exercise, gymnasts work up to doing that with over 60kg at the very limit of their spinal flexion, and it is very good for your back (assuming you work up to it gradually).
gracefool As a physiotherapist I strongly disagree. There was an ex-mister olympia who got spinal fusion on the neck. 20 kg is nothing to your arms but to the back the force is multiplied.
It depends on whether you have the antagonistic muscles ie erectors and rectus abdominis strong enough to counter the pull of each other. One should not be much stronger than the other, just as the same can be said for most other sets of antagonists. A big strength discrepancy will result in higher injury rate.
I strongly disagree. If you improperly lift any weight that's above 20lbs, you're already creating micro tears everywhere. Have a straight back at all times. Even if you're not lifting any anything.
I loved how visually understandable this video was. Thank you for your great efforts!
Michael Bay did the editing on those fire bombs
Lol
Muscle burn fire effect was hilarious
#facts
What was explained here in 2 minutes has eluded me with doubletalk all my life.
1:39 I felt the pain
Great! I was looking for that stuff for some time, to show exactly how bones are bend etc.. Thank You🤝
Love the fire and bomb illustrations
I was too afraid too stick out my glutes due to silly thoughts not because less effort but now that I watch this video I understand now
Awesome animation @Muscle&Motion, props to you for provinding evidence-based information to the internet world.
Well done my next deadlift session I will try hard to keep my spine flexed
VERY well explained and demonstrated!
lovely video actually kickass
Learned so nuch
also the glutes can limit the range of motion of the pelvis and cause rounding of the back. stretching glutes helps in avoiding back injury
same with hamstrings and weak hip flexors
Amazing!!! Love the animation!
Excellent video
sound ? music ? talking ? anything ?!
Nah man, we don't need that.
Introverted video
na, not necessary
At least there's video
No dont give him music the skeleton will get too excited and won't be able to focus enough to demonstrate the concepts
God bless you
Very good video
Thanks . Iam suffering from this
Me also
Excelente material educativo. Rápido, preciso e ilustrativo: gracias por compartir
This is worse than reading my text book in highschool
thanks very much
very nice. although i would like to hear those exposions
Very informative.
same problem, what should do now?
Great video!
Thanks
This is so true and we were taught decades ago to "lift with your legs, not your back" but rarely did.
I'm 65 and once when bent over with my back, I lifted a bucket of water and my lower back didn't like that. Next time I straightened my back and lifted the bucket with my legs and had ZERO back pain! Always work smart especially as a senior.....kids, you'll find out.
You saved me.
Accurate, imformative and helpful. Nice job
Hola, puedo usar videos de Muscle and Motion para mis publicaciónes? Gracias
thank sir good information for us.
these videos are so helpful!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! please keep them coming
well explained
Grate video
I learned more from this video than from most youtube philosophers
Awesome video!! very useful to see the muscles and bones in 3D
Good video
Very interesting video. No wonder my lower back was killing me.
Having a weak core even if you try to do it right you can still get hurt so I would workout my core leg sit ups then abs then squads
Sit-ups are bad for your spine as well, there are plenty of better core exercises.
That explosion xD
My quadratus lumber muscle is injured while wrong posture weigh lifting. Plz help it is very discomfort , tightness in morning,
what role do the abdominals play in this activity?
it is a good video
lol gotta love the fire effect
Stretching is different. Notice that when you're stretching you send a clear signal to the brain of "stretching"= relaxation) You want to release the stress caused by the right posture. You want to be comfortable when you're stretching, but stressed out (muscularly speaking) when lifting. Although you can use light weight to stretch and reach a broader range...
+Cristian Rodriguez Not really, bending the spine like the video shows is dangerous, no matter if it's a stretch or not. Also, stretching with light weights and extreme ranges of motion is risky and, in my opinion, a recipe for disaster.
MDrummer Not at all, a healthy spine can handle a body weight stretch in flexion. Look how kids move and bend/bow, I guess the problem comes with time.
Cristian Rodriguez You don't want to stretch with a 35 kilogram weight hanging on your spine.
Fjerid yes you do. Gymnasts have been doing that for a long time, look up the Jefferson Curl exercise, it's really good for you. People work up to over 60kg with a fully rounded spine.
Your opinion is crap. Respectfully.
Hi ! Where can I find more videos like this one about injury mechanisms ? I have both of your apps about Anatomy and Strenght training but can’t seem to find them.
wow nice video again, thx
This is hilarious and helpful
1:30 anyone did these before and had pain, deadlifts? I think i over neutralise my spine, thinking my neutral wasnt neutral so i exaggerate it. And now im on my 3rd week recovering from that injury
You probably shouldn't have pain doing that watch this video it might help, the guy knows what he is talking about and is a great teacher.
ua-cam.com/video/hCDzSR6bW10/v-deo.html
just make sure you've got form right with a lift like deadlifts, you can injure yourself pretty badly and permanently if you don't.
Genial. Buenísimo detalle.
Our spine is designed to lift objects and we have muscles for that,if we can rotate our spine via our obliques muscles then it is natural and familiar for the human body,we just need to determine what is too much and how to deal with it ?
Please check out what Dr.Stuart McGill as currently the most asked expert on spine health says about twisting and bending the spine under the load. Thank me later.
@@slavencica McGill is well known to have outdated views on this topic.
@@santyx_eorrr I read the critics of his views but most of them misinterpreted him. Since I have no interest in defending me or his views I would be thankfull if you could elaborate your statement and provide some sources of the critics you mentioned. Best regards
@@slavencica the paper named "the risks and rewards of lumbar spine flexion during lifting exercises" by Greg Lehman and Louis Howe (2021) provides a solid overview of the current evidence
@@santyx_eorrr So I checked the source and I found that I read it already earlier. It's one of the main misconceptions and it creates a new myth trying to beat another. By the way McGill never said that you should avoid flexion alltogether. The study is focusing on the shear force alone, but that's not the whole picture (disk damage just to name another piece of the puzzle). It is also interesting that Greg is also a student of McGill. I work with hundreds of patients on weekly basis and what I see among back patients is total lack of lumbar motion control and stifness. The muscles around the spine have primarly postural role and they resist the rotation in order to enable force transfer from other part of the body such as hips and shoulder through linkage. Failing to adopt hip-hinge technique for specific working tasks leads into further problems. I can write whole day about this but you can check following links for more info:
Misconceptions around McGill Method:
ericbowman03.blogspot.com/2018/03/the-mcgill-method-common-misconceptions.html?m=1
Interesting debate here:
www.physio-network.com/blog/lumbar-flexion-during-lifting/
Cheers
I can feel that fire by watching it
In conclusion, twerking is dangerous
骨骼与肌肉是否来自吸收细胞的营养才能产生健康的效果????
Now when, the people from the place I work at, start saying I’m gonna get a back injury if I keep deadlifting, again.
I’m gonna show them this video to shut them up.
please, word more big and more slowly
Nat Ale Use 0.75 speed or 0.5 if need 🙂
Pay for it then u can complain
1:48 😂 what I see 24/7 at work 💀 😢
1:26 what name this muscle?
Я так понимаю это для простоты восприятия нарисовали несуществующие мышцы? Или я чего то не понимаю. Этих мышц нет в анатомическом атласе.
Ролик очень полезный спасибо 👍🤝
Por favor podrían explicar en Español..muchas Gracias...
Any solution of this problem ???
Great
I thought my Bluetooth got 😭but this video is introverted.
fuck not again, my sound driver not installed properly
Do a video on lifting from ground and then turning 90 degrees and placing on shelf chest level. Thanks
Kaboom?
Where is the 2nd part f the video?
Could of at least showed him put the plate on while holding that neutral back. Correct info though
We need sound!
I hate when people slack their technique when putting the plates away.
Watched because of the title. Commented because the title is CLICKBAIT! You do not make people likely to buy your product by lying to them.
Hey David,
Why do you think that the title is CLICKBAIT?
If you can share with us your thought it'd be great, please email us to info@muscleandmotion.com and we will reply ASAP!
@@MuscleandMotion The video title is, "How to avoid injuries while lifting..." but you don't discuss how to avoid injuries. At 2:03 it looks like you're finally getting to the subject, "What should we do to avoid these issues," and then at 2:06, "What is the proper technique for lifting a weight off the floor," but then at 2:08 "In our upcoming video," reveals that this video is just a teaser, and does not answer the subject of the title, "How to avoid injuries while lifting." I have noticed other Muscle and Motion videos on UA-cam follow this same format. You state the problem eloquently with clever graphics, but then refer the viewer to what turns out to be paid content.
so atlas stone lifting isnt great for your back?
0:36: "in a fully flexed spine, the erector spinae muscles are almost at a complete rest"??? maybe when you curl your legs up in the bed, not when against gravity!
This is cool, but is it backed by research or opinion?
watch tihe video on alan thrall about using your back this is old fashioned thinking there is a lot more research done on the subject
1:37 is that yellow thing the nerve bundle?
I had to really put the volume to the max, too quiet
Interesting...
SUB'D!
no sound?
we have a small tail
Viel hilft viel
klu blh cpt skit gerakan xde masa nk tggu
But the abs are also concerned by the anterior shear force,it reduces the weight on ligaments when contracted,and the abs are really well recruted when the spine is flexed,so it reduces the tension on the ligaments,the problem is not rounding but having muscles in the mid-section too weak to withstand the anterior shear force for the abs for example.
uh deadlifts are not quad dominant they are hamstring dominant XD
steven yerry deadlifts are everything dominant.
Alguien sabe si lo podría encontrar en español?
So for stretching then we touch the foot it's the same thing?
+ZAZZ313 Yes, that can be dangerous for the spine, apart from being a useless stretch.
MDrummer Thank you :) ok so i will stop this stretch ^^
+ZAZZ313 Late reply. Keep doing that stretch it's very usefull for the hamstrings and hipflexors, you need to learn to tilt / bend at the hips instead of the lower back. When you do this exercise correctly you already need to be very flexible to hit horizontal chest facing the ground. To bend at the hips you need to stand straight then bend at the hips keep your upperbody normal don't arch.
Bas Haren Thank you very much Bas , i hope your comment will be very useful for many people :)
@@basharen1444 but isn't stretching hamstrings forbidden in case of APT?
just eat 500 calories over your maintenance metabolic rate eat 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight you weight and spread it out every 4 hours because your body can only absorb 30 to 40 grams at a time don't take longer than 2 minutes in between sets and lift weight that's so heavy you can only do it 10 times and constantly check you self to see if you can do it more than 10 like 15 reps and then go up like 5 or 10 pounds or so also get 8 hours of sleep... done... get housed.
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Fair warning to anyone watching this - this video is very outdated based on current evidence. The idea that your lower back magically disintegrates with any loading doesn't make logical sense (every structure in the body adapts to loading/gets stronger as a result EXCEPT the lumbar spine?) also the claims that repeated flexion of the spine is a risk factor for disk herniation comes from studies done on dead pig spines that were repeatedly flexed (sometimes up to 70,000 times!). Those spines have no blood supply/muscle tissue surrounding them and therefore have no ability to adapt to the stimulus (repeated flexion). Also the spine is never neutral when performing lifts like the squat/deadlift/kettlebell swing, so saying your back needs to be straight to keep your spine neutral and therefore protected doesn't make sense either - we have quality evidence showing that even if the back LOOKS straight - the spine is actually flexing far outside the neutral zone during these exercises. Read the journal article "Getting out of neutral: the risks and rewards of lumbar spine flexion during lifting exercises" by Lehman & Howe (2021) for the evidence on this topic - you can find it on researchgate.
TLDR; Your back is strong! Don't be afraid of natural human movements.
Didn’t understand anything
Then why does our dumb body do this after so many years of evolution?
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Samjh me nhi aaya
This is misleading. It's not bad to move like that if the weight is relatively light. If you can deadlift 140kg then a 20kg plate is very little and most likely is entirely fine for you to lift with a very rounded back. Secondly you can train your muscles to be strong in a rounded position. It is possible to safely lift very heavy deadlifts with a rounded back, many thousands of powerlifters do it with no issues: so long as you're not near the limit of your spinal flexion you're probably fine. If you want an even more extreme example, look up the Jefferson Curl exercise, gymnasts work up to doing that with over 60kg at the very limit of their spinal flexion, and it is very good for your back (assuming you work up to it gradually).
gracefool As a physiotherapist I strongly disagree. There was an ex-mister olympia who got spinal fusion on the neck. 20 kg is nothing to your arms but to the back the force is multiplied.
It depends on whether you have the antagonistic muscles ie erectors and rectus abdominis strong enough to counter the pull of each other. One should not be much stronger than the other, just as the same can be said for most other sets of antagonists. A big strength discrepancy will result in higher injury rate.
I strongly disagree. If you improperly lift any weight that's above 20lbs, you're already creating micro tears everywhere. Have a straight back at all times. Even if you're not lifting any anything.
gracefool your names graceFool for a reason. Stop misleading noobs who’ll read your comments and think it’s ok to deadlift with bad posture.
Kids, don't listen to this person. You'll get in trouble.
Mujhe kch samajh nhi aaya
Doggy everytime
muge best body banana hai bro so made hoga bro
How does it do that without deltoidZ and that's cruel they skinned his Paynes
Ligma lol
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