The Living Room - A Film by Shane Meadows

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  • @VM-RTS
    @VM-RTS Рік тому +3

    Tonight i cry yet again missing you Gav. Why did you have to go 😢 love you forever ❤

  • @lsmola
    @lsmola Рік тому +9

    Sometimes when i have doubts and feel the way only i know how, seems like Gavin just walks next to me with the guitar in his hand. He grabs me by the shoulder and starts singing, in that moment every single word of his poetry hits my soul and i know he can understand me the same way i can understand him...Although i never met him and i never will it feels like weve been friends forever. Thank you for the music Gavin and may God rest your weary soul

  • @kirk3847
    @kirk3847 6 років тому +62

    Gavin was a friend during and after school and as much as it pains my heart to watch this as I knew back then he was struggling with many demons, it enlightens me to know that his talent is aired.I have watched and cried through this but I also reflect back on it regularly to remember the great guy he was.

    • @markpureplumbers3955
      @markpureplumbers3955 4 роки тому

      Kirk was Gavin from Bermondsey? Just the last song Bermondsey stutter.

    • @lfcwilli
      @lfcwilli 4 роки тому

      II cried watching this to, he seems like a decent bloke....

  • @S8250503
    @S8250503 11 місяців тому +4

    How did Gavin not make millions? I discovered his music late in life but count his CDs as the best in my collection.

  • @Quantomguy
    @Quantomguy 7 років тому +25

    I sat here and watched this film and with every passing minute I grew fonder and fonder of Gavin and really felt for him whilst trembling in the living room gig, Dead Mans shoes is one of my favourite films, but I never really thought about who was behind some of the sound tracks. So I must admit 45 minutes ago was the first time I'd ever known of Gavin or watched him play and sing. "What a really lovely bloke" I kept thinking to myself as the film went on, and near the end I was chuffed to bits that he was gaining some recognition and playing in Big halls. Then I read the blog under the title and was gutted to learn that he had passed away. I feel so sad even after only knowing of him for 45 minutes.. Bless him and his family.

  • @Archiewhynot
    @Archiewhynot 3 роки тому +5

    I don't think I can add anything that hasn't been said already so I'll just say how grateful I am for the incredible musical legacy Gavin left behind and how sorry I am that he passed. Both for his family and loved ones and for the songs we'll never hear. A very special soul indeed. X

  • @richardneill5782
    @richardneill5782 4 роки тому +12

    Gavin was my godbrother. Our mums were very close friends for years, Gavin’s mum + stepdad (my godparents) and family lived round the corner from the house I grew up in in Maidstone - lovely people, I have many fond childhood memories of them (most prominently borrowing their copy of Toy Story 2 on VHS on a regular basis) In fact it was Gavin’s younger brother who introduced my parents to each other and thus is partially responsible for my existence. As such I was brought up listening to Gavin’s music, and he remains and always will remain a hero. Sadly our families lost contact after we and they moved away from that neighbourhood, but I’m trying to get back in touch. I only wish Gavin was still around and that I could have known him better at the age I am now, he seemed like a truly lovely bloke just like the rest of his family. Rest well you legend ✌🏻

  • @trevorbarnes4731
    @trevorbarnes4731 3 роки тому +4

    Dead Man's Shoes. brought me into Shane and Gavin Masterful Work . And my life changed forever. Watching this made me realise how close and beautiful there relationship was. My brother died 2 years ago and we use to play your stuff on our guitars and listen to your music everywhere we went on the road. I miss them times so much . Rest in peace guys and thank you for being a big part of my life.

  • @Simplesimple123
    @Simplesimple123 5 років тому +2

    Tragic . So beautifully full of tenderness and crippled with self doubt . Such a loss . He was as relevant as nick drake and the singing poets of our time that also have seemed overwhelmingly full of beauty and pain at once -creativity . This world has lost a massive soul , he left us his voice , he lives on . With joy and pain- we listen . Thank you Gavin .

  • @1whimsicallie
    @1whimsicallie 8 років тому +9

    Beautiful documentary on a beautiful songwriter songsinger. Rest in Peace, Gavin, one year anniversary last week.

  • @RobinRimbaudScanner
    @RobinRimbaudScanner 9 років тому +10

    RIP Gavin. Your talent and beautiful voice will be sorely missed :-(

  • @Noisey
    @Noisey  9 років тому +50

    On Monday morning (February 16, 2015), Gavin Clark shockingly passed away at the age of 46. A peerless songwriter and poet, Gavin is infamous for his work with Sunhouse and Clayhill, and had collaborated heavily with UNKLE. He is also much loved for his musical collaboration with visual director Shane Meadows on films such as Somers Town and This Is England, plus the recent live re-scoring of Dead Man's Shoes.

    • @nightspore73
      @nightspore73 9 років тому +7

      God bless Gavin, a singular talent who wrote heartbreakingly beautiful songs. Thanks for sharing, films like this are priceless.

    • @ddsdavey
      @ddsdavey 9 років тому +2

      Noisey Rip...

    • @johannamix966
      @johannamix966 7 років тому +2

      Noisey rip mate you did some cracking music sorry I'm late. JoJo x

  • @jamesmckenna597
    @jamesmckenna597 9 років тому +5

    A really lovely film. I never had the pleasure of seeing him perform live, but have been listening to his music for many years and he deserved so much more success than he experienced during his life. I was so very sad to hear of his passing and my sincere condolences to his family. The quality of his writing was way up there with the best.

  • @pearllindy357
    @pearllindy357 Рік тому +1

    Wow! I’ve loved Gavin’s music for over 20 years, only just found this film. It’s a beautiful tribute to a beautiful man but hard to type with tears in my eyes. Thank you Gavin, RIP.

  • @twproudmore
    @twproudmore 9 років тому +16

    Filmed in My street. grew up with his eldest son mike. Such a loss. RIP gavin

  • @juliageorgiou4393
    @juliageorgiou4393 9 років тому +6

    I first saw Gav with Clayhill backing Beth Orton at Manchester and his music and voice touched my heart, and touched nerves too. Raw and full of passion his lyrics were so personal yet were so accessible. Seeing this film makes them stand out more.
    Gone too early and without the recognition that his music warranted. I went online to find new stuff and have shed tears to find the news. RIP Gav, I will miss you.

  • @FRENCHYB2B
    @FRENCHYB2B 9 років тому +9

    The live performance of 'One thing I've not forgotten' at 35mins is just mind blowing. What an incredible talent Gavin had. R.I.P. X

  • @patrickbickerton3418
    @patrickbickerton3418 9 років тому +9

    So so sad to hear of Gavin's passing. This tender film is a lovely tribute to a great, but truly underrated talent - he's written and performed on some of my favourite songs which will stay with me for my whole life. It's especially tragic that his death comes so soon after the release of Shane's film which you'd hope would only have helped to generate further interest in and success for Gavin. RIP an honourary Staffordshire boy.

  • @wrightyboy12345
    @wrightyboy12345 4 роки тому +3

    Get in man what a story, love from Newcastle...rest easy mate.

  • @bentillotson8241
    @bentillotson8241 7 років тому +2

    It's really great the way a chance meeting at a party and Gavin playing a song in a kitchen, gave Shane the reality that he was never gonna be a musician, but from this came a lifelong friendship and arguably one of the best singer/songwriter, and filmmaker to come out of England in the last 20 years, such a shame that Gavins life was cut way too short, and he never got the recognition in life that he so clearly deserved, R.I.P Gavin Clark, sadly missed but never forgotten, and to Shane Meadows I don't think that there is anything on film that he has made that's underpar, everything is great keep it up Shane, best British film maker out there.

  • @lucavandresh9788
    @lucavandresh9788 9 років тому +6

    I've just heard that he has died a non-family death has never made me more sad then this one, I watched this video on the day it came out cos Im a big Shane Meadows fan and I re-watched somers town yesterday remembered how great the music was so wanted to watch this again and I'm absolutely gutted to hear of his passing R.I.P Gavin Clark

  • @gregorysowten1196
    @gregorysowten1196 5 років тому +4

    Shane.Dead man's shoes.A masterpiece.

  • @garethroberts2099
    @garethroberts2099 9 років тому +14

    RIP Gavin, you were a beautiful soul.

    • @ingabystram7675
      @ingabystram7675 4 роки тому

      a wonderful film.
      i am an oap isolating during lockdown on a large council estste in n london.
      i was amazing to see this. it was recommended by a young filmmaker i know.
      ga in clark has such a beautiful voice.
      and tou are an authenic filmaker.
      best wishes inga b x

  • @markbannister5335
    @markbannister5335 4 роки тому +1

    What bought me here was re-watching excerpts from the seminal British film by Shane 'Dead Man's Shoes - have never felt compelled to comment before, but having watched this short film (& subsequently reading the comments) I am truly moved by Gavin as a funny, intelligent, human being a musician & a family man. May his star shine bright on the other side.

  • @gezma12
    @gezma12 9 років тому +11

    What an honest man. No pretension, just a pretty voice and his own demons to contend with. Hope he and his family are doing well.

    • @h.j.w2783
      @h.j.w2783 9 років тому +1

      +gezma12 he died

  • @shep751
    @shep751 4 роки тому +2

    Never seen this or knew of this man before, one of the most heartbreaking pieces of film i've ever seen. Gavin seemed like a really sensitive, lovely guy, beautiful soul but crippled wirh self doubt.and fear..so sad. ..his music and genuine vunerability brought tears to my eyes, immensely talented, beautiful and from the heart..may he rest in peace and condolences to his family and friends..

  • @ivansimjanov5607
    @ivansimjanov5607 3 роки тому +1

    Pure Genius... up there with Nick Drake, Chris Whitley,Syd Barrett, Brian Wilson RIP Gav

  • @DocSavage1975
    @DocSavage1975 9 років тому +11

    RIP Gavin Clark. Thoughts are with your family. A true loss to music. :-(

  • @lfcwilli
    @lfcwilli 4 роки тому +2

    My dad died when I was nine and I’ve tried to emote how that felt and gav did it, thank you

  • @JOL65
    @JOL65 9 років тому +23

    Genuinely love Gav's music,he has an honesty and talent that has been seriously undervalued over the years. I would urge anyone to buy the old Sunhouse and Clayhill albums and not be blown away.if you get a chance to see him live (very rare) treat yourself, his soundtrack work for Shane Meadows films is beautiful,he is a very special songwriter and a perfect foil for the best british film maker in the last 15 years. If this sounds like a grown man being a fanboy, its because i unashamedly am.

    • @raithbheartaigh4946
      @raithbheartaigh4946 9 років тому +1

      +JOL65 Sadly, he died in February.

    • @jol6533
      @jol6533 9 років тому +2

      +Raithbheartaigh yes, the day after posting this. Tragic loss of a shining star.

    • @raithbheartaigh4946
      @raithbheartaigh4946 9 років тому +1

      Couldn't agree more, mate...a sad loss indeed.

  • @victordelanietze4998
    @victordelanietze4998 8 років тому +3

    Rip one of the most influential songwriters for me
    So sad, so beautiful

  • @joemalone7385
    @joemalone7385 5 років тому +4

    I was lucky enough to meet Gavin Clark about twelve years ago after a Clayhill gig in Nottingham. The unusual thing about the gig was that Gavin stood to the side of the stage, letting the double bass player take centre stage; the effect was disconcerting. I had a drink and a chat with Gavin after the gig, and asked him why he did this? He said that he struggled with confidence and didn't like the audience attention on him. Despite his obvious talent, he was quiet, humble, and obviously lacking in the usual bravado, and self confidence, one might expect from a performer with his talent. I'm shocked to this day, that Gavin never got the breakthrough, or recognition he deserved.

  • @mechtree22
    @mechtree22 5 років тому +4

    As if I've only just seen this, what an amazing little film, really got me in the heart.

  • @boltysan
    @boltysan 9 років тому +3

    Don't know how I came across this video but in one respect I'm glad I did, it came as a shock to read the update and I'm genuinely moved. I suppose his songs will live on which might be a small consolation for his family but never the less my heart goes out to them.

  • @TheGeniegenius
    @TheGeniegenius 5 років тому +6

    the best voice i ever heard

  • @TetinKlimente
    @TetinKlimente 6 років тому +1

    Might just be my favorite documentary of all time. Shane, you're a great man for helping out your friend. Was a pleasure meeting you in Munich back in 2016.

  • @GRPLiningServices
    @GRPLiningServices 7 років тому +3

    Shivers when he first started singing.

  • @edwardmulholland7912
    @edwardmulholland7912 9 років тому +1

    Just learned of his sad passing. He was My age. Gavin was the best of My generation. Thank God i still have his music.

  • @NigelBurn
    @NigelBurn 9 років тому +2

    RIP a true talent who will be missed by all he touched.....

  • @jibicusmaximus4827
    @jibicusmaximus4827 5 років тому +2

    those lyrics are pure poetry..

  • @Ben_Mdws
    @Ben_Mdws 9 років тому +6

    I remember buying the Sunhouse album when it came out. You think the musicians you admire all go on to make thousands, but this reminds you how that is rarely the case.

  • @ayyyyok
    @ayyyyok 4 роки тому +1

    Truly beautiful. The ending scene to This Is England is the first time I heard Gavin (with Clayhill) and it sent chills down my spine. Such a beautiful voice, and after watching this, a beautiful soul. RIP Gavin, thank you for everything you've left with us.

  • @hellodave5389
    @hellodave5389 2 роки тому +1

    He was brilliant
    May he rest in peace

  • @alanhopkins3727
    @alanhopkins3727 9 років тому +5

    shane is a legend. this is beautiful.

  • @1whimsicallie
    @1whimsicallie 8 років тому +2

    Thanks Shane ~ such a beautiful voice stilled ~ we will have this beautiful piece & soundtracks & Gavin's music forever.

  • @leannephillips
    @leannephillips 9 років тому +1

    RIP Gavin. What a terrible tragedy to loose such a great talent. xx

  • @mclean9092
    @mclean9092 9 років тому +2

    Lost choices one of my personal favourites of his haven't heard anyone quite like him R.I.P

  • @TheUrbanCollectiveWeFilmIt
    @TheUrbanCollectiveWeFilmIt 3 роки тому

    Films and people like this make me happy to be alive...

  •  4 роки тому +2

    Thank you Shane for this beautiful documentary.

  • @rael1999
    @rael1999 7 років тому +1

    Such a sad story...thanks for shooting this Shane. Sorry for the loss of your friend and such a great relatively undiscovered talent ! Just bought the album 'Crazy for the weekend' and it's superb ! RIP lad !

  • @swimgood3873
    @swimgood3873 5 років тому +2

    Forgotten how many times I've watched this, would love to watch similar docos

  • @TetinKlimente
    @TetinKlimente 7 років тому +1

    Thank you for the music, Gavin.

  • @mmhcreates
    @mmhcreates 5 років тому +2

    Thank you. Heart shines through and resonates.

  • @TylerVanner
    @TylerVanner 8 років тому +2

    Still hurts to watch this. But thanks for making it Shane. R.I.P Shane x

    • @Tom-uv7ry
      @Tom-uv7ry 4 роки тому +2

      Shane didnt die it was gavin clarke that died

  • @BEN14680
    @BEN14680 4 роки тому +2

    hard to believe he was gonna get a job delivering.... great songwriter

  • @neildeaville4193
    @neildeaville4193 4 роки тому +1

    Great songwriter with a haunting voice. I'd been meaning to watch this film for a longtime then it popped up in my suggestions today. Wish I'd got to see him live. Midge Ogilvy was my nan's next door neighbour, so i wouldn't have had far to go!

  • @lonelycookie2434
    @lonelycookie2434 Рік тому

    Rest in Peace.Genius role model, true artist.

  • @Reibusu
    @Reibusu 9 років тому +2

    Just learned that Gavin Clark has passed away very recently. It seemed like he was right on the verge of getting the attention he deserved, Such a raw and amazing talent, and absolutely wonderful voice, and a thoroughly terrible loss.

  • @danilodistefanis5990
    @danilodistefanis5990 3 роки тому +2

    9:36 that mobile phone buzz in audio. Nostalgia ASF.

  • @TylerVanner
    @TylerVanner 9 років тому +1

    Have only just learnt about my favorite artist passing away. I am torn up by this news. Gavin used to email me and invite me to gigs and I'd never recieve them in time. ANd NEVER got to see the man himself. This news has ruined me from now on ... R.I.P Gavin.

  • @janethussainj-star
    @janethussainj-star 9 років тому +1

    i enjoyed watching this video, but so sad he died. brilliant songwriter R.I.P Gavin

  • @DGdescendant22
    @DGdescendant22 6 років тому +1

    First time hearing this music and even ever hearing of this person and already i can tell he was a great guy with such awesome talent, such a shame for someone like this to pass away. Great job to shane also, he's successfully moved me once again.

  • @PaddyPeepshow
    @PaddyPeepshow 9 років тому +6

    Great film. The Sunhouse album is still one of my all time favourites, lovely to hear Gavin play Hard Sun - such a beautiful song. Thanks for posting. And I'm from Burton too so this really connected with me. Glad it came up trumps with the reel to reel! 8-)

  • @telsutton
    @telsutton 9 років тому +1

    Just found out about Gavin's passing. Watched him perform with Sunhouse in St Malo in 98. He'll be sorely missed but his music will live on. RIP.

  • @katoness
    @katoness 9 років тому +4

    Just came across this by accident.Never heard of Gavin Clark, seems like he was a genuinely good bloke and talented musician. Sadly, the good always pass on young.

  • @Zappa943
    @Zappa943 3 роки тому +1

    I can recommend the cd "Sunhouse - Crazy on the Weekend".
    Superb! I think you will only be able to find copies on ebay.
    RIP Gavin.

  • @OakleyANDSittingBull
    @OakleyANDSittingBull 6 років тому +3

    It would have been lovely to have heard a duet album composed and recorded between Gavin Clark and Kate Rusby. I think their playing styles and vocal timbres would have complimented each other very well. :)

  • @cormacrodgers4042
    @cormacrodgers4042 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you Shane for making the film's you have made. Gavin is one of the best voices we have ever heard. His family must be so proud and must miss him so much. Everyone in this film look so dead sound. You losing the rag with the lead at the start is typical but great it was recorded. Thank you

  • @danielwalsh7538
    @danielwalsh7538 4 роки тому +1

    What a talent

  • @blackox05
    @blackox05 9 років тому +4

    Was actually a very nice film. Very pure and raw. Just how it should be.

  • @bazildon1
    @bazildon1 9 років тому +4

    can't believe we will never see or hear Gavin Clark I urge you all to go and buy everything he ever recorded you'll doing yourself a favour - RIP Gavin Clark (I'm gutted)... great film that's Shane Meadows for you

  • @Metal-Possum
    @Metal-Possum 5 років тому +15

    Norway has (or had) a scheme where musicians are paid by the government, a bit like welfare, to give them a chance. I think it's good to support small-time artists, because they've usually got something to say.

    • @drinkwater319
      @drinkwater319 4 роки тому +1

      So does France, the government accepts they’ll be out of work at times and so they aren’t pressured and they get enough to live on before their next contract

    • @bomnitoperro9422
      @bomnitoperro9422 3 роки тому +1

      I live in latin america. Where people get ofended if tou try to sell them music or any kind of art. :)

    • @danilodistefanis5990
      @danilodistefanis5990 3 роки тому

      BomnitoPerro then GTFO there. Stop complaining and do something about it.

  • @adzy166
    @adzy166 4 роки тому

    This is such a beautiful film. Everything that is great and good about Shane Meadows is distilled into this work. It’s such a shame this had to become a tribute to Gav Clarke. Wonderful musician and top bloke.

  • @jameshickey100
    @jameshickey100 3 роки тому

    One of best documentary i am huge fan of shane meadows, i love to be a film director

  • @sonictimbo
    @sonictimbo 9 років тому +2

    A british Jeff Tweedy?
    Really really great - I love the fragility

  • @ConfusionInc
    @ConfusionInc 9 років тому +2

    So sad, will miss him.

  • @knuckckles3605
    @knuckckles3605 6 років тому +3

    There used to be a lot of interviews of Gavin back in the 2000s on old UA-cam. He...looked and acted a lot different back then. I'd love to see the difference if anyone has those interviews, they were very good.
    He was very insightful, very much a rockstar. I thought he was going to live forever when I saw him in those old interviews. He mentions here, something is wrong with him now...damn this world.

  • @ElSoloNoco
    @ElSoloNoco 6 років тому +1

    Shane Meadows is the best, hes done what alot of British directors haven't. And that's staying true to his roots, he could have easily set each of his films in London like almost every other director, and instead he kept with the Midlands, makes me proud to be from there. I'd love to see him work with Paddy Considine again, Dead Mans Shoes and A Room For Romeo Brass are 2 of my favourite films, and are living proof that pure talent for direction, writing, casting, having a clear vision will always be more valuable than any kind of overbloated budget ❤

  • @TheCrumble
    @TheCrumble 9 років тому +1

    Shocked to read the description below after watching the film. Really sad.

  • @bigbrother1986
    @bigbrother1986 2 роки тому

    Keys to the kingdom by UNKLE ... best song ever written. His vocals on that track are so insanely moving and raw

  • @leongarland81
    @leongarland81 9 років тому +2

    absolutely smashin stuff that is

  • @lordluiscypher
    @lordluiscypher 9 років тому +1

    r.i.p gavin thanks for the great music

  • @calj27
    @calj27 2 роки тому +1

    God what a likeable bloke

  • @neiljones4363
    @neiljones4363 9 років тому +2

    Very sad news today. Rest in Peace.

  • @ramiyouniss
    @ramiyouniss 9 років тому +1

    RIP, so so sad x

  • @theboss1967able
    @theboss1967able 9 років тому +5

    true genius and disgracefully ignored so far lesser talents could get a career, music is fucked in this country. Thank you Gavin.

  • @Sandsodalime
    @Sandsodalime 9 років тому +1

    R.I.P Gavin xx

  • @TGGHarry
    @TGGHarry 9 років тому +1

    RIP Gavin x

  • @TylerVanner
    @TylerVanner 9 років тому +10

    This is very upsetting. I kept telling you when I win the lottery I'd take care of you. You were the greatest voice I have ever heard. So fucking sad.

    • @kimtodd61
      @kimtodd61 6 років тому

      Tyler Vanner such a BEAUTIFUL VOICE.

  • @pmbonar
    @pmbonar 9 років тому +2

    RIP Gavin

  • @hatetheergo
    @hatetheergo 9 років тому +2

    Anyone know what the title of the song that starts at roughly 35.15 is? Fantastic tune...

    • @mcrphotographer
      @mcrphotographer 9 років тому +2

      Such a beautiful song, I think it's called One Thing We've Not Forgotten although I've not been able to find it anywhere other than on videos of this performance unfortunately.

    • @hatetheergo
      @hatetheergo 9 років тому

      Thanks!

  • @emanuelfilm
    @emanuelfilm 8 років тому +5

    Whats the name on the song at 14:32?

  • @Georgeconna32
    @Georgeconna32 6 років тому +2

    Just checking out to see the Latest about Gavin Clark and gutted to see he had Died, Seen Clayhill in Cork back in 04 perhaps supporting Beth Orton. My Clay Hill Stuff gets Played to death. Gad I got the Chance to meet the chap even for a moment or to. What a Shame..

  • @day187
    @day187 9 років тому +2

    R.I.P from S-O-T

  • @bobojester
    @bobojester 9 років тому +1

    RIP gavin

  • @x_6406
    @x_6406 5 років тому +1

    Does anyone know where I can find the titles song
    “I got no colour in my face”

  • @ricardomelucci27
    @ricardomelucci27 5 років тому +1

    Can someone help me here. What's the song at 3.30? Cheers

  • @CnBKudi
    @CnBKudi 9 років тому +4

    Broom Broom

  • @Degenerative1
    @Degenerative1 9 років тому

    Really good guy and its good to see his honesty . Drugs fuck some of us up and its a bastard that gets ignored by the dicks trying to say drugs are good!
    Rip. Nice one Sean Meadows yet again.

    • @danielhenrysilver6607
      @danielhenrysilver6607 9 років тому

      Degenerative1 Well they've clearly fucked you up. Ignorant racist, Gavin was an intelligent man who supported peace in both Israel and Palestine.

    • @Degenerative1
      @Degenerative1 9 років тому +1

      Why am I a racist?How do you arrive at that?
      I am anti zionist yes . The logo on my info is by a Jewish group against Zionism. I am an anti fascist . Gavins own words are that drugs fucked him up. What are you trying to wade in here with reagrds an argument. How can someone praise Sean meadows and be a racist? Are you a fuckin idiot . I have been banged up for kicking fuck out of NF.

    • @danielhenrysilver6607
      @danielhenrysilver6607 9 років тому +1

      A fan of Shane (not Sean) Meadows, should indeed not be racist, which echoes more your hypocrisy. Likening the state of Israel to fascism or Nazism is damn ignorant and like with the rest of the widespread misconception of Israel-Palestine relations, it is absolutely racist. Israel has made a deplorable decision since Yitzhak Rabin's death to continue building settlements in Palestine but the overarching situation is that Israel is fighting a terrorist government in Hamas. And the Palestinian party that is striving for peace is Fatah, the opposition. A two state solution is what is needed. Not "fuck Israel" or "fuck Palestine" depending on one's impression. And that's the problem, not enough people in the West are advocating true peace. When is politics ever as simple as that. Besides, the point I was making was that I met Gavin a few times in 2013. I met him first when I was with a group of my friends (several of us were Jewish) so the conversation somehow led to this and I promise you that he shared my views.
      My statement to you at first was more aggressive than it should have been but I do not appreciate your picture. I hate how people argue so viciously across the internet as opposed to talking like normal people. So if you respond to this, please consider that.

    • @Degenerative1
      @Degenerative1 9 років тому

      I do not give one fuck if Gavin shared your views on anything. He was a drug victim so would agree to any old bollocks.You are trying to argue both sides are as bad as each other that is hilarious.Israel is Isolated because of its fascist nature . The Holocaust Industry by Norman Finkelstein might be a good starting point for you in reading Jewish views on Israels /zionist/supremacy politics (fascist nature). Do a bit of reading before you try to be critical of working class anti fascists.

    • @Degenerative1
      @Degenerative1 9 років тому

      Simply put, it is NOT anti-Semitism to criticize Israelis for what they DO.
      It is NOT anti-Semitism to report on Israeli spies in this country taping into police phone systems and warning Israeli drug dealers of investigations that threaten them.
      It is NOT anti-Semitism to point out that Israel has defied more UN Resolutions that Iraq.
      It is NOT anti-Semitism to mention that Israel is the only nation in the Middle East that actually HAS weapons of mass destruction.
      It is NOT anti-Semitism to remind people that Ariel Sharon has been charged with war crimes.
      It is NOT anti-Semitism to oppose the continuing sending of US tax dollars to Israel (totally four times the cost of the entire Apollo Moon Program) during times of great economy hardship in this country.
      It is NOT anti-Semitism to express concern over the vast sums of money that pro-Israel lobbyists are pouring into Congressional coffers.
      It is NOT anti-Semitism to be concerned about reports that the Mossad has suceeded in tapping even the White House phone system.
      It is NOT anti-Semitism to point out that many of these supposed "hate crimes" Israel loves to hide behind are hoaxes.
      It is NOT anti-Semitism to want the US Government to be more concerned with the American people than with Israelis.
      It is NOT anti-Semitism to reject politicians who openly display their loyalty to a foreign power.
      It is NOT anti-Semitism to be angered by Philip Zelikow's admission that the war in Iraq was not fought to protect the US, but to protect Israel.
      It is NOT anti-Semitism to tell Israel's supporters that hiding their crimes behind the entire Jewish people by screaming "anti-Semite" at every criticism is a really good way to set those same people up as targets!

  • @4kfreelance
    @4kfreelance 3 роки тому

    God bless Gavin. I'm a musician too who's having a terrible time in life. The only thing that consoles me is watching This is England 83, 86,88 and 90 back to back binge watching over the weekend. My all time favourite film I first watched 83 on a Virgin Atlantic plane on my way to America with The Rakes as their secret keyboardist who was only seen on stage as a session artist. That film struck a chord with me at the time and my life changed in years to come when I found out my pap was a dirty bastard who fingered my step sister at the age of 5. Well at least that's the story! My life has never been the same since in my head.

    • @Archiewhynot
      @Archiewhynot 3 роки тому +1

      I'm really sorry to hear this but I hope you find some resolve and don't carry this emotional burden that isn't your fault for too long.