Winwing Airline Joystick review and comparison with Thrustmaster

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  • Опубліковано 15 жов 2024

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  • @RobertoGodfrey
    @RobertoGodfrey 3 місяці тому +48

    Time to make a part 2. You forgot to show us the rudder-twist, forgot to mention that the Winwing joystick vibrates and didn't show us if MSFS2020 detects the joystick.

    • @nemon9857
      @nemon9857 3 місяці тому +4

      Or you could just be grateful that he spent his time and money to give us a review on the product.

    • @nascimentol835
      @nascimentol835 3 місяці тому +3

      Yeah, because a major flght sim company like WinWing is gonna release a joystick wich isn't ''detected'' in MSFS2020.......

    • @budguy21
      @budguy21 2 місяці тому +2

      @@nemon9857 dude made a good point tho

  • @dial_a_flap
    @dial_a_flap 3 місяці тому +14

    Real Airbus sidestick is very dampened back to netural. It doesn't "snap" like the Thrustmaster.

  • @sk8guitardrums
    @sk8guitardrums 3 місяці тому +5

    Great in depth review XP72. the Winwing flight stick mechanics is some what similar to the VKB inside the workings. i do feel the VKB looks more sturdy, robust & heavier design and it comes with different tension springs, spare parts and tools. The VKB you just change out the stick as its separates from the base, i do think this Winwing stick is removable, its got the similar 3 screws underneath.

  • @NegdoshaManido
    @NegdoshaManido 3 місяці тому +12

    I fly the A320 irl and the stick is very dampened. Tough to say which one has the more realistic travel, since I've never taken a tape measure to work and measured the travel. I would have to get the WW in hand to make a good comparison between it and the irl A320 stick. Right now, I am using a Virpil WarBird gimbal with an A320 grip (I don't remember who makes the grip, but it's very realistic) and the tension is good with the springs I have installed. I also have the TM Airbus stick, and I found it to be just ok, but for someone who is accustomed to the real thing, completely unacceptable.

    • @XP72official
      @XP72official  3 місяці тому

      Great to know. Thanks

    • @Pixel_Fish
      @Pixel_Fish 2 місяці тому

      @NegdoshaManido Curious what cam and spring setup your using? I have a Virpil WarBRD too and I'm trying to make it as realistic as possible. Thanks

    • @XP72official
      @XP72official  2 місяці тому

      @Pixel_Fish I’m using the default that came in the box. I haven’t started to tinker with it yet.

    • @NegdoshaManido
      @NegdoshaManido 2 місяці тому

      @@Pixel_Fish I have not changed out the springs or cams from what it shipped with. If anything, I might like some more tension on the springs, but I'm pretty happy with how it feels as is.

  • @19960959
    @19960959 3 місяці тому +16

    Just received Winwing Ursa Minor, and it feels miles ahead of TCA, the damping is adjustable. I adjust the damping to max, and oh boy it’s feel so fucking good❤

    • @vrotate8324
      @vrotate8324 3 місяці тому +2

      How long does it take to receive? I just bought it and I'm already looking forward to it

    • @vip08055
      @vip08055 3 місяці тому

      What are its dimensions?

    • @19960959
      @19960959 3 місяці тому

      @@vrotate8324 I live in Taiwan, so I bought it from Taobao China, which is where Winwing from. It took about 7 days to get it on my hands.

    • @19960959
      @19960959 3 місяці тому

      @@vip08055 dimensions in what? Its size is perfect and not that heavy IMO.

    • @henrikolsen5
      @henrikolsen5 Місяць тому

      How do you adjust the dampening? And what was time from order to shipping, and shipping to reception?

  • @Jenairaslebol27merde
    @Jenairaslebol27merde 3 місяці тому +1

    the winwing obviously has a surprisingly good dampening ... but there is also one more pro to mention for the thrustmaster: the twist axis. some might use it for rudders if no pedals available, but if you have pedals, the twist grip comes in super handy as a tiller axis.

  • @BernyBit2Berny
    @BernyBit2Berny 2 місяці тому

    i can’t thank you enough for the clarity you bring to your topics! ☀️

  • @andrehenry4825
    @andrehenry4825 3 місяці тому +6

    I have the winwing FCU. Overall a great product but winwing really needs to make their products plug n play without the need to download third party software. Huge difference IMO

    • @tf6shawnn
      @tf6shawnn 3 місяці тому

      Can you twist it for tiller?

    • @XP72official
      @XP72official  3 місяці тому

      @tf6shawnn yes

    • @henrikolsen5
      @henrikolsen5 Місяць тому

      @@XP72official Please confirm WW can twist in z axis for tiller support, like the TCA can. I thought the WW could not do this.

    • @just.in.flight
      @just.in.flight Місяць тому

      @@henrikolsen5 yes it can

    • @Dreadpirateflappy
      @Dreadpirateflappy День тому

      @@henrikolsen5 it can.

  • @OzzySafa
    @OzzySafa 3 місяці тому +9

    The real airbus side stick is super damp and heavier compared to the thrustmaster one

    • @lol-j7u
      @lol-j7u 3 місяці тому

      there is a guy that mad it (2800rmb) really good

  • @idkhowtoexplain
    @idkhowtoexplain 3 місяці тому +1

    To me, the WinWing Joystick feels sturdier and has a better overall feel. My Thrustmaster joystick is made of plastic that feels cheap, whereas the plastic used in the WinWing joystick appears to be of higher quality and doesn't feel cheap. Overall, it's a great product and a great review!

  • @mnsportsfan8889
    @mnsportsfan8889 3 місяці тому +2

    Do we know the price? i use the basic Thrustmaster yoke and quad. Ive been looking for an upgrade for a few years. I bought the Thrustmaster captains pack last year and the side stick did not work with Xplane 11.

  • @lvwpy
    @lvwpy 3 місяці тому +4

    What about the sensors? Does the Winwing come with Hall Effect sensors?

    • @Fus-1111
      @Fus-1111 3 місяці тому +1

      From another video yes they are.

    • @lvwpy
      @lvwpy 3 місяці тому

      @@Fus-1111 thanks for the info!

  • @capt.ab9432
    @capt.ab9432 3 місяці тому +2

    😮😮 that means preorders should be coming soon!! Love it xp ty for the review

  • @Littleguy-5
    @Littleguy-5 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks to you I preordered mine!

  • @DerbeQ
    @DerbeQ 3 місяці тому

    Any chance you could confirm that the Winwing stick could be mounted on a TCA Flying Clamp?

  • @aviator_2401
    @aviator_2401 Місяць тому

    Does it come with the rudder axis?(twisting for rudder ) ??

  • @WnDTech
    @WnDTech 3 місяці тому

    Yeah no twist action, this is important for me, because the thrustmaster side stick has issues with this over time, both of mine had the same issue, which I managed to fix very easy.

  • @IsraëlSivanLevi
    @IsraëlSivanLevi 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for sharing your unboxing.
    Missile launch or Push to talk, the winwing wins on ergonomic. Under the cap You have a trim control for helicopter, i have it on search and rescue to slide left or right.

  •  3 місяці тому

    That is normal to feel the Thrustmaster bouncing more (spring effect) since the travel is longer. For the test you did, you should move less the TCA axes.
    Anyway, good comparison.

  • @Aleksandar6ix
    @Aleksandar6ix 3 місяці тому

    I'd go for the TM for versatility. Can use it for helicopter and space sim, therefore better value even if it feels cheap

  • @vip08055
    @vip08055 3 місяці тому

    What are its dimensions Winwing Airline Joystick?

  • @JohnOddo-gt2qe
    @JohnOddo-gt2qe 3 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for the review, now I don't know what one I'm going to get LOL

  • @airrd
    @airrd 3 місяці тому

    I got the Thrustmaster sidestick already, not that satisfied with it. Do you think this would be worth the "upgrade".

    • @XP72official
      @XP72official  3 місяці тому

      A question first. What were you lot satisfied with on the Thrustmaster?

    • @airrd
      @airrd 3 місяці тому +2

      @@XP72official The stick twist for example has stick drift, so the inputs aren't right anymore or it gives inputs on its own. Secondly, the build quality feels genuinely cheap and lightweight.

  • @ConqueringLion4
    @ConqueringLion4 3 місяці тому +1

    Great review XP! Looking forward to the Boeing mcp and mcdu

  • @owenklein1917
    @owenklein1917 3 місяці тому

    Have you ever considered making a mini home cockpit like the Airbus cockpit winwing had on display at the expo? It seems like it would be super fun and with winwing being super cheap, it would actually be affordable lol

  • @realrakimcrazy2k
    @realrakimcrazy2k 3 місяці тому

    do you live in the usa because when i was on the website it does not deliver to the usa

  • @Lightwriter1
    @Lightwriter1 3 місяці тому

    This is only the surface of a comparison. How do the sticks "behave" in the simulator? How does it "feel" while using it in an Airbus but also for example in a helicopter? Please a part 2 ;-) ;-)

    • @XP72official
      @XP72official  3 місяці тому

      I’d think you’d have to calibrate it for each aircraft like I do with every stick I have. Dunno 🤷

  • @ddobagi_1540
    @ddobagi_1540 3 місяці тому

    Updated apps to support vibration motors in MSFS.
    Does it work well with MSFS?
    If it does, does it vibrate when running down the runway during takeoff and landing?
    Or is it just a brief vibration on landing touchdown and that's it?

  • @normg2242
    @normg2242 3 місяці тому

    The removable springs are for helicopter flying.

  • @MatPocobo42
    @MatPocobo42 3 місяці тому +2

    Does it have the twist axis for tiller?

    • @XP72official
      @XP72official  3 місяці тому +3

      Yes it does, have a twist axis for tiller. I forgot to mention that.

  • @hpharold23
    @hpharold23 3 місяці тому

    In terms of resistance and feel, I say the TCA Sidestick has and edge over the Winwing,

  • @MalShakur
    @MalShakur 3 місяці тому

    Doesn't seem like it's night and day difference or a reason enough to toss my thrustmaster to the side, especially when I may only hand fly the Airbus for all of 10 minutes, if that. Thanks for the video anyhow.

  • @TogaSimulations21
    @TogaSimulations21 3 місяці тому

    the real airbus sidestick has lots of travel and is very damp. If thrust master makes theirs as dampened as the winwing or even more, I would pick the thrust master over winwing. I mean right now i would still pick thrustmaster over winwing because I like having the travel.

  • @AmazeTase
    @AmazeTase 3 місяці тому

    Looks good but what about a throttle quadrant?

    • @XP72official
      @XP72official  3 місяці тому +1

      That would be good from them as well.

    • @AmazeTase
      @AmazeTase 3 місяці тому +1

      @@XP72official fingers crossed! 🙏🏼
      Btw…the removable panel on the bottom of the joystick reveals the adjustable dry clutch damper 🙂

    • @XP72official
      @XP72official  3 місяці тому

      @Cookie2k thanks. That damper feels good.

  • @Tacticalpanda757
    @Tacticalpanda757 3 місяці тому

    My space stick and flight stick are on preorder... just waiting

  • @FGCH03
    @FGCH03 3 місяці тому

    In all the reviews they never peel off the pads they just mention it try but no complete.

  • @rapidrapid01
    @rapidrapid01 3 місяці тому

    Keep doing what you're doing

  • @riclam66
    @riclam66 2 місяці тому

    very rough review, winwing hands down 10 times better than TM TCA, no issue with the rudder axis being TM design flaw, that dampening centering is the key game changer for better controls and feel when adding very subtle control inputs is needed

  • @NuWhite
    @NuWhite 3 місяці тому +1

    5:56 Ahahah... they blatantly completely copied the gimbal from the Gladiator NXT without any changes, lol

  • @bradvanefsky2080
    @bradvanefsky2080 3 місяці тому

    Great review

  • @LightYear_Studios
    @LightYear_Studios 3 місяці тому

    Have the Thrustmaster Airbus system but because of the throttle unit cheapness there is no resistance in the throttle and is deemed useless worst thrustmaster product I bought. Joystick and Spoiler / flaps is fine but the throttle sticks are a joke

  • @jjstevenz
    @jjstevenz 3 місяці тому

    the real sidestick has less travel and more dampening

  • @shaanfliesplanes
    @shaanfliesplanes 3 місяці тому +1

    I’m surprised that Thrustmaster hasn’t put a patent on their product

    • @laughintrollface
      @laughintrollface 3 місяці тому +6

      kinda hard when they are just replicas of the airbus side stick. nothing to really copyright

    • @Fr4Ged
      @Fr4Ged 3 місяці тому

      They probably have but Winwing cared about it as much as for the VKB Gladiator gimbal which they copied. lol

    • @theflyinggasmask
      @theflyinggasmask 3 місяці тому +3

      Which patent? An Airbus themed PC joystick? lmfao

    • @OzzySafa
      @OzzySafa 3 місяці тому

      Thrustmasters product is licensed by airbus. No idea why it’s taken us this long to get low price haptics in a side stick when we’ve had it in game controllers for years

  • @johnnicolucci380
    @johnnicolucci380 3 місяці тому

    Will these work with xbox?