[Topspin Serve] Move under the ball - ATP Pro teach How To Hit Topspin Serve - Pro Tennis Lessons
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Takao Suzuki（Former Japan Davis Cup team）
Birthday: September 20, 1976
Highest JTA* rank: S1／D1
Highest ATP rank: S102／D119
*Japan Tennis Association
【career】
・record the most wins at Davis Cup in Japan national team(41 wins)
・Japan National Team at Atlanta Olympics
・first round in singles at US Open (1999, 2004)
・second round in singles at Wimbledon (2003)
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Mishihisa Onoda（Asian Cup 2002 Gold Medalist）
Birthday: January 31, 1978
Highest JTA* rank: S3／D4
Highest ATP rank: S296／D306
*Japan Tennis Association
【career】
・qualifying in singles at Australian Open(2003)
・won the ATP Challenger doubles title at Busan Open, KOR(2003)
・won the ITF futures singles titles five times
Michihisa Onoda（instagram）
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You´re the Takao Suzuki that played against Federer in AO 2005 and Tokyo 2006? You´re an awesome player!. Respect.
Millions of youtube tennis instructors, none of them told this before. none of them. I corrected my topspin serve with 100% full understanding for the first time since I began tennis 10 years ago.
they did't play federer, twice, and lost with grace (well that's 05/06 fed for Christ's sake). here's some good old highlight: ua-cam.com/video/-CgYAkanDC8/v-deo.html
Agreed. I really liked this concept of moving under the ball.
They are using pinpoint stance serve. How do you move under the ball with a platform stance serve?
@@laurencecorray indeed, that is the question!
This channel is quickly becoming one of the best online tennis instruction channels on UA-cam. Please keep up the good work.
At 10:30 when he says that this method doesn't work for people who are 2m tall, you realize how good his understanding of the sport is. He understands not only his body, but the bodies of other players and how they should play differently.
I need to move to Japan and be coached by this fellow! :-)) There are a lot of so called experts on here who seem to love the sound of their own voice more than anything else and I wouldn't pay a penny for that type of ' coaching '. This is sound coaching. No digressing from the main point. This is how coaches should coach. Stick to the subject at hand. Impart the knowledge in an easily understood way.
This is excellent instruction especially for not too tall tennis player
Thank you so much for English subtitles. I really appreciate it. I am still waiting for the next lesson in English.
Like I said before, he's a pro teaching us actual details he performed against Fed at Ausi open
Excellent video. I don't understand Japanese, but the subtitles were more than enough to understand your instruction.
I'm a short player, so these tips are very useful for me.
Great tip. Took it right to the court. It added pop and consistency. Thank you!
Amazing instructions. Thank you for showing us that there are different ways to play.
I play tennis and also learning japanese tennis terms, thanks, please keep sharing!
What i remember the most is Takao vs federer. 2005 Australian open dan 2006 AIG open
Thank you for the slow motion! It is excellent and I learned a lot.
Please do a video on Forehand by Mr Takao Suzuki. I simply love his teaching and he is the best teacher on the internet.
In my realization and appreciation you guys is the GOAT teacher, showing and proving us great lessons to learn and enjoy in time. My gratitude for all of your humbleness and generosity and your efforts of sharing all of these..🙏
Brilliant advice!
You guys are so willing to share & teach your skill :)) Thanks you so much!!
your lessons are definitey thebest I've ever seen.
nice, good instructions! thanks!
I love this guy, after years of mistakes this video solved all my queries. Excellent coach
Love all your clips , awesome coaching techniques. Please do a video on slice
I like your videos. They are different - in a good way. They go deeper than most other tennis channels. Keep them going!
Very good lesson for me! Thank you
Konbawa from Singapore. Thank you for the English translation. Arigato gozaimasu
Love your channel! Thanks for English translation.
I have a good slice serve but I need to improve my spin serve, Here I can find many useful tips. Thanks!
great instructions
That was very interesting 🤔 definitely have to try it next time! I am very afraid of hurting my lower back from all the tossing to left side.
This is great, and thanks for the translation! ✌️
Thanks Guys will continue practicing with your ideas they make sense but struggling still to put into practice in doubles matches. Also I have to practice more as I serve right handed but play all my other shots left handed.
Although I don't understand Japanese, I found this demo was really well explained with good theory and comprehension on spin serve. Bravo!
Very informative
Great lesson, coach
amazing - thank you!!!
Arigato
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great video!!!
Very great tips! ❤❤ btw can you share video tip about spin serve at the deuce (right) side?? Its a little bit harder to hit spin serve at the deuce side especially when playing a double match
Please do a video on backhand slice! As a two-handed backhand player, I struggle with feeling the ball and contacting the ball at the right angle, and my slices either fly high, hit the net or my frame hits the ball...
That’s great.
Don't miss watching this as well as Japanese version. だぉ=dao
Great channel
ビデオを楽しんで、多くのことを学びました。
a one handed backhand video please!
This is awesome! This is pretty much what I tell even beginners. Learn to hit slice, topspin and flat serve with the same/similar toss. Federer does it. It is possible with different ways. But if you go for the ball instead of the ball going to your left it gives you control at contact point and makes it very late for your opponent to pick you and you can change your decision at the last moment much like Federer. This is ideal for the kick serve. add more slice its a slice serve and add more topspin its a topspin serve. else its a kick serve. You only need to learn one serve, the others follow.
Pranav, I wonder do I have to constantly toss the ball inside the court more when serving? And then the legs drive the body forward to meet that contact point...
@@cassonjonquil4792 that is one way to go because it gives the whole body forward momentum. But I wouldn't recommend throwing the ball forward. Instead start rocking your body back whilst starting to toss. Extend your arm while tossing so the ball is moving mostly vertically up and not much in any horizontal direction either forward backward or sideward. That way your toss is almost one dimensional and you would know its position in space very accurately. If you do it well you can hit such a ball near your sweet spot with your eyes closed. This would mean you know where the ball and all parts of your body is at all times.
A ball that is moving horizontally would be tougher to predict unless of course you are okay with that AND it is moving horizontally in the same way all the time, like Federer. He tosses the ball in such a way it moves sideward a lot but its very similar for most of his tosses for most of his serves. Other players would vary that trajectory for different serves and different directions also sometimes.
for the serve the ball is in contact with your racket for a very minute amount of time. maybe only one or two strings may even make contact depending on your racket speed and type of serve. In what direction you make contact determines the direction the ball goes and the type of spin on it. if you throw the ball inside the court, you are not only fetching it inside the court but have to jump well to reach it. The jump would no longer be vertical it would need to be little bit horizontal as well. This works well for flat serves as you would like to make the contact point as much forward from the body as possible for great pace. This would not be doable with a kick or topspin serve because you desire to make the contact point early to impart the spin. The spin comes only if the racket face moves in a direction of the spin and not the ball. in the topspin's case the racket face should move upward and forward at the same time. This is not really achievable if your arms are fully extended. This is one of the primary reasons they ask you to toss a bit to the left and wait for it to drop before hitting it. your intention is not only focused on pace but more importantly on spin and direction.
I would say if the ball is bound to fall less than 8 inches or say 20cm in front of your front foot then you should be able to hit any serve. why 8 inches because that's how much comfortable horizontal movement you can get with a decent jump. you can toss it a little further if you jump a lot and are going for a flat serve. at worst it should be under 12 inches. I mention this assuming you are rocking back a bit before the toss. You toss it even closer to your body if you intend to hit under the ball like in a pure topspin serve where you are looking for that great net clearance. you cant hit under ball if it way in front of you.
Now if you don't intend to jump and want to learn it without jumping( which is what a beginner should try first) then you should toss it closer to the body and just rock your body before toss or even don't rock it if your an absolute beginner. you will be making contact at a lower point but there are far less moving points and you concentrate only on your racket head and forearm movement. Just make sure your hips and feet are the same at contact point as they were before toss. The key is; where your hips and feet point t(not necessarily toe I mean both your feet and your back to front hip direction) , that's where the ball will go. As you try to hit ball more towards your left your hid foot will tend to rise and turn. This can be used to train yourself to change your direction at the last moment.
The way I look at serve direction is this: if you learn to serve in one direction properly then you can hit in any direction if you can rotate yourself in that direction. you can rotate yourself before the toss, after the toss and also at contact point. the former being the easiest to do and easiest to pick and latter being toughest to do and toughest to pick. As a beginner learning to land the most of your serves in and also go in the direction you intend it to go is the first step to success in learning how to serve. Then as you reach more mastery learn how to create disguise and deception. The later things are done the tougher to do it and tougher it becomes for your opponent to pick. A singular toss is the first nightmare for your opponent as he never find out what serve is coming. same posture for every serve direction is next nightmare and late change of racket head direction is worst case scenario. if you can become really good that you can keep one eye on the ball and one eye on the opponent then you can TRY to serve like Federer. That would mean ultimate control on your serve. Sorry for the EXTRA LONG reply, but I thought it was fitting for your wonderful question. Thank you for asking!
@@pranavsreedhar1402 thank you for the knowledge. It totally makes sense on the part where the ball should be hit closer to the body in order to execute that topspin serve! So I'd say just toss the ball closer to the body(not inside the court) for every types of serve yeah? And about that hips and feet, should they remain the same direction when hitting that topspin serve in such a way that I try not to rotate the hips when hitting that contact point?
@@cassonjonquil4792 yeah close enough to the body that you are comfortable to hit the serve every single time. rotating your hips and consequently your feet helps generating the torque to hit the ball. Can you hit without rotating? most certainly but you may not harnessing your full potential. If your looking to get the maximum out of your body rotating the hips by the right amount is slightly helpful. The problem is that you are going to have too many moving parts and risk going wrong on some parts and faulting the serve. I think rotating the hips helps you to add like 10% power but the risk might be much more. If you have an very athletic body and are able to consciously be aware about different parts of your body then this shouldn't be too tough. for the topspin/ kick serve bending your knees is the more helpful aspect than rotating the hips. the bending of knees gives a springy action to your body and help you jump better and reach the ball with maximum upward force. At the end of the day you would have to rotate your hips if you are to land after the serve into a ready position. so rotating your hips late should be enough for you to start serving well. then when you reach excellence level try experimenting with the rotation. Remember what matters is the direction of the hips and feet at the contact point where your hips are before and after are not as relevant. the later the rotation the tougher it becomes to pick the ball and tougher to hit. not much rotation means a better consistency. The reason I say hips is because thats what your shoulders also follow at the end of the day. if they aren't aligned then you are not in a comfortable position and not getting the best out of your body and obviously increases the chances of error. Natural tendancy is to rotate the hips because your hips will try to follow your shoulder which will be rotating. make it the other way around by making the shoulder follow the hips. if your not jumping, staying on the ball of your toe without lifting your foot too much would ensure your hips dont rotate beyond the feet and also means your shoulder is in that same alignment by the time you make contact.
yes for the topspin serve tossing the ball as close to your body helps a lot.
As a beginner dont rotate your hips much just bend your knees and follow the ball with the ball after toss moving horizontally as little as you want. I think I have answered your question please do reply if I havent!
No matter how good you can serve its all about placement and variety to keep the returner off balance and guessing
I would like to send you a video of my serve to analyze. I am happy to pay you. Please let me know how I can do so. Thanks
Is the toss point same as slice or flat service for this serve?
yeah same as slice serve toss. understand.
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"Move under the ball". What if u use the platform stance?
Good question. Exactly the concern I have since I use the platform serve.
can someone better explain the mental image they are talking about in the 2nd half of the video?
i'm not quite getting it
i always assumed tall players simply had a advantage over us short players. nice to know we have a serve suited for us.
Taller players actually have less advantage over shorter players than people think.
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cool concept, but very very few people take a step with the left foot during the toss, like him.
Taking a step like he does can throw off the toss
The transcript is in Japanese. Unfortunately I don't understand Japanese.
This only applies to pinpoint serve and not platform serve where the feet does not move until the jump. I think tossing from right to left each time is unreadable because the opponent can't guess if the toss is right to left everytime. However if the toss is straight up or right to left then it became very readable.
Watch Federer doing the same move for spin serves. He move his feet just before hitting the ball to hide his real intention.
@@strongbrain3128 Can you show me a video?
@@FF_AlohaEdition TTT has talked about it before:
ua-cam.com/video/rd7H6r4TnEg/v-deo.html
@@strongbrain3128 I don't think he is moving his feet to hide his intention. I know because I do the same thing. The front feet may move because of second serve so the emphasis is on launching body up to hit topspin. Besides no opponent is going to check feet for couple of reasons: the opponent will more likely be looking at the toss because the net might be blocking the view, they more than likely can guess which serve is coming eg second serve or second kick serve on second serve, federer feet does move pretty often but it is so little compare to others there's no way anyone can catch it which is prob why he doesn't care to hide it. I'm not pro so I might be wrong but I disagree with several points in that video. Besides people can obviously tell what kind of serve a pro might hit but of course to do that must slow down the footage or else how did you video even show it. The difference is some pro have start up motion like federer where the toss is always right to left that makes harder for others to tell what can of serve is coming while other pros might not toss the same way so it's easier to tell. Obviously if you toss a ball straight up for one serve and then all of sudden toss from right to left then yeah opponent might see that but if you constantly toss from right to left no way the opponent can guess or even judge the distance.
@@FF_AlohaEdition actually you can clearly find out where a person is going to hit if you follow his feet and hip closely enough. try it out in a match. for almost all players how their feet point determines where the ball goes. if the feet doesnt change much the effectiveness of the serve is reduced as it will rely only on racket face direction and that being created from the pronation and all that. you are right that most players would not be in position to read the feet. but if you know what type of serve is coming. just follow the hips and one of the foot. for every player there would be a signature. front hip and back toe or front foot and back hip. when we see from broadcast view on video it looks easy but YES its tough to read from the return position. a slight change would be the difference between a down the T and out wide. less than a inch for some people.