The Science of Dyslexia | Sci Guys Podcast
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2024
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In high school I tried telling my counsellor I thought i had dyslexia and she grabbed my hand patted it and said sweetie it’s all in your head. YEAH JANET YOU DON’T SAY!!! THATS THE WHOLE ISSUE LMAO
Yessss I'm dyslexic and iv been waiting for years for you to do this episode. I always struggled in school and was told it was a confidence issue and I was lazy, slow learner. But when I went to college at the age of 25 they noticed I was struggling so sent me to a dyslexic assessment. Turned out I was dyslexic.
One of the thing that has always bothered me with the diagnostic criteria of dyslexia was the fact that you needed to be below the average passing grade to even be considered for it ( which was not my case ) since it completly ignore the struggle of the child to even get to a passing grade. Maybe I'm thinking a bit too much of my own experience, but I do feel like it's quite strange to me.
Also, yes, I have dyslexia and dysgraphia ( and keep googling words to see if I've typed it correctly ahahahah ! )
YES! I totally agree - I have coping strategies my family taught me (many of whom have dyslexia type issues) and so I managed to keep above a passing grade despite having symptoms of dyslexia. But my understanding of lesson material and spoken subject knowledge was on-par with my friends who were A students, but my grades were nowhere near theirs, because I had difficulty with the reading and writing components of the material. And I know this is a bit petty - because I'm glad I passed and that's the main thing - but in competitive fields it really makes a difference if you're an A stream student or a B stream student & if you're struggling with the written component of the course it makes it stupidly difficult, like, you have 50% extra work that most of the other students don't have to do. Seems to me that anyone who struggles with decoding language should have the option of help if they need it.
I didn't get diagnosised tell almost the end of highschool because I cheated so much I had pretty good grades
Dyslexia was classed as a learning disability in the past. The distinction between a disability and a difficulty sounds pretty ableist, to be honest. More about keeping people in the abuse cycle of Capitalism than reducing any harm the individual experiences.
It is a disability, its a specific learning disability I think they got it wrong cus in the UK a learning disability is the same as a ntellectual disability, but dyslexia litrely comes up as a eksempel of a learning disability
38:40, my favourite example of this is the contraction of "could not have..." which when you speak comes out like "couldn't've" which just doesn't make sense when written down 😂
Great episode as always guys!
Holy shit, I had no idea that mixing up phonemes was a part of dyslexia! I have dyslexia and I have done that since I was a child, and I never connected the dots. The number of times that I just swap sounds around in words is too many. Some words are differently mispronounced every time, and others, it's the same. Like, New York is a special verbal nightmare for me as it either comes out as You Nork nor not at all 💀💀
yes I'm dyslexic and spend a long time trying to decipher my own handwriting, its irritating as well as I have a decent vocabulary but would use simple words at school as I couldn't spell the more complicated ones losing me marks on tests in class
lol the amount of red squiggly line under these words
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dyslexia is mostly a language thing, for example I'm dyslexic in my mother tongue but not in english. and because of the nature of my mother tongue, and how it is taught we got like 80~90% dyslexic children here.
That's interesting! My sister has the reverse, she is dyslexic and struggles with french (our native language) and english but has a lot less problems in italian.
But the spatial organisation and awareness difficulties that can come with dyslexia stay (finding the right line in a text, differenciating her left from her right, etc...) Do those kind of disappear for you?
@@leclercqflorentine1880those are present I think because my dyslexia is untreated. (I found out when I was 28 years old )
the way I experience dyslexia is that when it comes to language is only on my mother tongue, but everything else that doesnt have to do with language is present in daily life.
and arggg that left and right is my nemesis everytime someone asks for directions I have to look at my hand for a second or two to get the right words
I'm dyslexic dysgraphique and dyspraxique and i been waiting for this video for years.
In films they often show dyslexia like letters moving on the page, but that’s not true, platters just don’t make sense hahaha. Like you see them, you recognise them but they don’t make sense, don’t create a word. Also, as you mentioned, long words, especially new ones, are freaking nightmare. I have such an anxiety to read out loud especially when it comes to long words cause I know I will missread it
Fun fact: you can be dyslexic in one language but not another. And English is the most common language for dyslexia while languages with more defined characters such as Japanese has the least about of dyslexia
You my friend have just changed my life. I was raised in a multilingual environment, and the main reason I stopped considering dyslexia was bc I didn’t have the same troubles across all my languages, I thank you dearly
i was just thinking about this. i was wondering how languages like chinese, japanese and korean are different to languages that use the latin alphabet. i personally had a very hard time with japanese reading and writing at uni, while korean was way easier. i usually have very good visual memory so i still havent figured out why i couldnt grasp kanji. i wonder how dyslexia manifests in languages that use different writing systems. i have a very slight problem with mixing up numbers, especially 7 and 9 for some reason and i realized that during a japanese class where i knew the words for both of them but mixed them up as i read the numbers out lol.
@@imgeniusish well, the reason why dyslexia is super common in English is because the English language uses the same word to represent many different things which is uncommon a lot of Asian languages, who uses different characters to represent very specific things.
@@imgeniusish English is also very unisexual, while many different languages have masculine and feminine versions of itself.
I wonder if ones dyslexia presenting differently in different languages is more about the used alphabet and how the language is interpered in written format than the language itself.
Though to counter my statement immediately, my spouse has dyslexia and it doesn't only affect writing or reading, but also how he remembers words or grammar (in his native language) or it sometimes takes him a little bit longer to internalise meaning from written language.
I may have mild dyslexia to the point it made me pronounce some things wrong. My maternal grandfather is dyslexic. The gaming brand Bethesda I read and pronounced "Beth-say-da". I pronounced psyllium as "sigh-lum". The site Deviant Art I read as "de-vahn-tee". Maybe it's mostly the letter "i".
You earned your 5 stars with that one. I was diagnosed with dyslexia almost 30 years ago so I’m well versed on the subject. All the information presented matches up with my understanding as well as a lot of my personal experiences. Keep up the good work.
aw yeah science
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Yes I'm dyslexic and yes I often can't read my own handwriting.
Let’s go! I’ve been waiting a very long time for this episode!
Aw yeah science!
Ye haw, science!
I didn't learn I was dyslexic until my mid 20s, but looking back all I can see are examples of time someone should have noticed. my mom would get so frustrated with me bc she knew that I "wasn't stupid" but I could get lucky and spell a word correctly and then turn around ten minutes later and completely misspell it. I certainly couldn't explain it. I remember being so relieved when they stopped doing spelling tests bc I hated every second of it. No one ever picked up on it bc I think there's a belief (esp in the 90s) that dyslexia means you can't read at all but I'm good at reading comprehension and test taking so clearly I can't be dyslexic. I still hate having to read things aloud bc I know I'm going to mix words up and mispronounce some. my last boss once asked if my last name was spelled phonetically and I had to admit that I didn't know bc I will never understand phonetics. I have to run all my emails and important things thru a text to speech program to find out if I'm missing words or used the wrong one bc I'll never be able to tell just from reading it. I once had a coworker tell me that I couldn't be dyslexic bc I worked at a library...
I think ancient Latin is a thing, modern latin would be the one used in come context like the Vatican which have at least more words for modern things, don't know about grammar differences. But probably common etymology make sense in whatever version of Latin.
Interesting! Could you please also mention dyscalculia ( same stuff but with numbers)? I have it and it sucks, and it was so unknown when I was in school! The fact that I was a disaster at arithmetic and did well in algebra should have rung a bell...
I have dyslexia and it definitely makes my schooling harder
Oh yeah, that’s true that with dyslexia some fonts are impossible to read. Also one of the symptoms/results of dyslexia is inability to recognise the word with a missing letter. That’s was my biggest struggle on my final language exam: there was a task to fill gaps in the words, and the amount of times when I made mistakes just because I couldn’t recognise the word with a gap and thought it was som other word….
P.S. I didn’t know ADHD and dyslexia was connected! Well, my life makes more sense now (I have both)
I'm in Ethiopia where we use Amharic letters(eg. ሳይ ጋይስ). Since our letters are not phonetic but an abjad where every phoneme has its own letter variation, I wonder if the incidence of dyslexia might be the same as for other places, or if the letter acts as a kind of development therapy taking those predisposed out of expressing it in later life? Just something I'm wondering.
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet
I think its a syndrome. It can be caused by many things. Something, I think, could cause it would be tightening of the lingual/labial frenula. Which, I believe, would explain why people have issues turning words into the proper sounds or vice-versa. I had very tight lingual/labial frenula until recently. I turn 28 this year, have cancer, figured out I was trans, (mtf / she/her), and got diagnosed with auDHD. That's so much stress. As we all know, stress can consistently make your muscles tighten up. They may be very small, comparatively, to other disorders caused by undeveloped physical traits , but the frenula in your mouth are very close to your brain. All that tension around the most important organ we have, does not sound like it's something that allows for proper speech development.
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(Which is something I know of personally as I had extension speech therapy sessions when I was little, but my parents took me out of them resulting in a halt in both my physical and mental development.)
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Without our brains, we wouldn't have logical thinking and introspection. Increasing pressure due to oral frenula can severely derail the proper tracks of neonatal development. In conclusion, I have a feeling that, any kind of prenatal condition that leads to tightening of oral frenula has an increased potential of resulting in development delay disorders.
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In my opinion surgery is a rapid way to fix these issues. I mentioned my developmental disorders and health issues before because, I wanted to explain why someone with very tight lingual/labial frenula would have issues matching the 'shapes' of letters to the sounds 'inside their minds'. If there's constant tension right next to your brain, its going to cause pressure to build. It can only hold so long. This started last Autumn for me. First with my tongue, slowly, and starting over the last few days my labial frenula have begun to tear. The instant pressure release was amazing. Like a worn out rubber-band finally snapping.
I'm Noticing every spelling 'mistake' I make before I finish typing the word. Rather than noticing it after I've completed my thought and re-read through my work. It's Such a weird thing to experience at my grown age lol. I also have pretty bad stigmatism which I think was caused by the near 30 years of pressure in my head. Which was a result of the frenula I mentioned earlier. Its funny, the word is 'stigmatism' but gets called 'astigmatism' probably because of people with labial/lingual frenula not being able to move their facial muscles properly to annunciate written word. It's something I'm experiencing as I type this out.
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Just thought I'd share the thoughts I've been arranging for the last 5 months lol.
- Adahlia S.
Yes, I'm very dyslexic lol
I just realized the reason I'm good at mental math is because of my diabetes. I practice mental math on a daily basis.
I don’t have dyslexia but my old roommate/friend has it
I alwaya thought dyslexia was a neurological thing! But they dont really know. Interesting!
I don't have Dyslexia, but I think my fiancé might 😂
Idk, 10% of school classes sounds about right to me 🤷♀️
i am dyslexic and have discalculia
Both? Oh dear... I'm dyscalculic but always was excellent with writing and reading... It didn't save my grades though, the whole school system seems geared towards maths 😅.
This is cool and all. But will you ever make an episode on a very sexy learning difficulty, known as sexlexia?
I DIDNT KNOW GOD WAS GINGER ?!
I had dyslexia up until I was about 10. Idk what that was
No, I'm not dyslexic. Quite the opposite: hyperlexic! (But equally neurodivergent...)
I've not heard of hyperlexic before, can you describe it for us?
Hellooo there, fellow autie letters lover! I knew how to read and write without faults in 2 languages at age 9, but still can't read big numbers 😅