@@acrobatic_beef belt dressing is made for constant engagement applications like what is used on an alternator or fan on a car. Not a clutched set up where the belt needs to disengage and reengage. Belt dressing i would assume would cause all sorts of havoc on belt disengagement
I seen this mod done on alternator pulleys years ago. A guy was selling the pulleys, said it would help with cooling the pulley surface. I can see it working.
Thanks heaps, this will be a awesome starting stage for me. Im about to buy my first mower to try my hand in this awesomeness and im looking for as much preparation videos i can, thanks heaps mate.
I'm glad I watch this video good education I watch a lot of your videos you guys out there mud running we got a couple tractors for me and my son we like to go out and mud running on them I got seven acres of property in nothing but fun
you just safed my life i cannot figure out why i keep blowing idler pulleys and welp no dip i got a trampoline spring on my clutch talk about not wanting your belt to slip.
So I'm going to be picking up a extra mower that I might use for my mud mower build i found this video on belt slip and I also have a question on pulley size I'm not looking for big speed but more of low end to mid range for this build I was thinking a 9 inch in the back and leave whatever the front was but I'm not sure if that's too big of a swing or if I need to dial it back to keep the trans from becoming a grenade
so the holy pulley mod is to stop hydroplaning of the belt? Like what treads do on a car tyre, to remove water and such from between the 2 friction surfaces to get as much contact as possible.
You need bigger/ wider pulleys for 5/8 belts, they waste more power, they are more expensive and there aren't as many options at your regular suppliers... Ik last time I checked out heymow they talked about ½" belts being superior and about 4" pulleys being the smallest you should go not for slip (they don't deal with wet belts) so much as for efficient power transfer (which v belts are the worst).. I have seen similar mods done on mud trucks with v belt accessories and there was a guy on UA-cam like 10 years ago that used a Dremel on the inside of his pulley to carve what he called treads in an outward spiral pattern inspired by tire treads I hope I can find the video cuz it totally did work.. I always thought that the side shaft tractors lend themselves well to a jackshaft setup where the belt/clutch system could be up under the hood and potentially covered with all the gearing done with chain and sprockets to the axle..
The majority of people buy build your own pulleys from box stores that are made for both 1/2” and 5/8” belts along with a lot of the pulleys on the market are advertised as working with both belt sizes. But that doesnt change the fact that half inch belts are rated for higher hp at higher rpms, when you start getting into ungoverned engines and built engines for that matter, a good 1/2” belt rains superior to the 5/8 belts.
I’m not sure if anyone has done it yet. I know there are a few people that have a set up in the works. The issue with that is both about have to engage and disengage at the same exact time so it’s a lot of set up to get it to work properly, but yes, it would double the grip of the set up
Yes I was forgetting about the clutch pulleys was just envisioning a rock crusher I use to work on that had like 5 belts on the pulleys with a big counter weight on it
Seems like the optimal formula would be pulley diameter x two with 3/16 to 1/4" hole, evenly spaced, throughout the belts contact point to pulley. Both sides straight through with a drill press or drill each side individually with the holes staggered symmetrically.
3in on the trans 5 or 6in on engine clutch backwards your lawnmower will go 45 without touching the governor by adding a rope you’ll better have control that lawnmower will go much faster much fast meaning I crashed by doing this you’ll have less wheelies but more speed a lot of speed lol so y’all listen to this man because my engine is probably toasted lol was a cool 20$ for a quick fast go kart
Do you agree? What tricks do you use to eliminate belt slip?
I've heard that automotive belt dressing makes the surface more grippy and water repellent. It needs more investigation though
@@acrobatic_beef belt dressing is made for constant engagement applications like what is used on an alternator or fan on a car. Not a clutched set up where the belt needs to disengage and reengage. Belt dressing i would assume would cause all sorts of havoc on belt disengagement
What size bore do I need
cogged belts slip less and engage harsher. similar to switching to a ceramic clutch disk in your car
@@AA-tb4ff unfortunately cogged belts are not meant for riding mower factory style slip clutches. They are designed for constant engagement
I seen this mod done on alternator pulleys years ago. A guy was selling the pulleys, said it would help with cooling the pulley surface. I can see it working.
Weve seen motors stalled out due to belt grip now vs slipping before
This is a very good and much needed video! Too common of a question to be asked on fb
Thanks for watching, hopefully it helps someone out
Thanks heaps, this will be a awesome starting stage for me. Im about to buy my first mower to try my hand in this awesomeness and im looking for as much preparation videos i can, thanks heaps mate.
I'm glad I watch this video good education I watch a lot of your videos you guys out there mud running we got a couple tractors for me and my son we like to go out and mud running on them I got seven acres of property in nothing but fun
Thanks for the support!
you just safed my life i cannot figure out why i keep blowing idler pulleys and welp no dip i got a trampoline spring on my clutch talk about not wanting your belt to slip.
So the trampoline spring was pushing your idler pulley into your belt so hard it was ruining your idler pulley?
Great vid! I am glad that when I watched it I already had all of these mods or equipment in place.
Looking forward to TTC videos and an eagle star update! Keep the content rolling!!
Thanks for watching! I think ill do a big update here shortly
Glad to hear that!
So I'm going to be picking up a extra mower that I might use for my mud mower build i found this video on belt slip and I also have a question on pulley size I'm not looking for big speed but more of low end to mid range for this build I was thinking a 9 inch in the back and leave whatever the front was but I'm not sure if that's too big of a swing or if I need to dial it back to keep the trans from becoming a grenade
so the holy pulley mod is to stop hydroplaning of the belt? Like what treads do on a car tyre, to remove water and such from between the 2 friction surfaces to get as much contact as possible.
Exactly!
You need bigger/ wider pulleys for 5/8 belts, they waste more power, they are more expensive and there aren't as many options at your regular suppliers... Ik last time I checked out heymow they talked about ½" belts being superior and about 4" pulleys being the smallest you should go not for slip (they don't deal with wet belts) so much as for efficient power transfer (which v belts are the worst).. I have seen similar mods done on mud trucks with v belt accessories and there was a guy on UA-cam like 10 years ago that used a Dremel on the inside of his pulley to carve what he called treads in an outward spiral pattern inspired by tire treads I hope I can find the video cuz it totally did work.. I always thought that the side shaft tractors lend themselves well to a jackshaft setup where the belt/clutch system could be up under the hood and potentially covered with all the gearing done with chain and sprockets to the axle..
The majority of people buy build your own pulleys from box stores that are made for both 1/2” and 5/8” belts along with a lot of the pulleys on the market are advertised as working with both belt sizes.
But that doesnt change the fact that half inch belts are rated for higher hp at higher rpms, when you start getting into ungoverned engines and built engines for that matter, a good 1/2” belt rains superior to the 5/8 belts.
Interesting information and video. Thanks 👍
Thanks for watching
Awesome video. Thank you
I been running a 36 inch pulley on my engine shaft. With a 1 inch belt.
And a 1 inch pulley on my transmission input shaft.
Boy is it fast.
Thank you for this vid my bp racing lawnmower slips bad im going to try this cuz it has costed me lots of wins
I hope it works out for you!
I'll have to try this soon
Look into a deburring tool for removing the burr from the pulley. I bet itd be alot faster
Awesome info!
How about a 3/8 belt with 80grit emery cloth for cleaning up the pulleys
That might work perfect
Definitely going to be doing this with my mud mower.
Heck yeah!
I'm doing this on my 2 mud mowers I hate belt slipping
@@redzz02 I just got a 20hp vanguard twin im looking forward to built the engine yours looks a beast looks powerful
@@dillongates4520 thats awesome man thanks!
Hello, I have a question professor, what is better for a mud mower? an 18 hp 2 opposed cylinder engine, or an 18 hp single cylinder engine.
Twin cylinder will have more torque to spin your tires in the mud
@@redzz02 very very good, thank you for your time. I am in process
What about notched belts and holey pulley mod
Notched belts are made for constant engagement, they are not made for clutched set up like what is on a mower
@@redzz02 oh ok
Ok, so how are you getting a 20+ mph from 7/5 on a wh? I've got a '71 WH Raider 12 running a 8/3½ and getting 19mph. Using for on road use only.
Thank you! This mod definitely works great!
Here it is everyone from the king himself
actually zero dislikes what an accomplishment
🤣🤣 youre right
Has anyone ever tried doubling the pulleys and running two belts wondering if that would do anything.
I’m not sure if anyone has done it yet. I know there are a few people that have a set up in the works. The issue with that is both about have to engage and disengage at the same exact time so it’s a lot of set up to get it to work properly, but yes, it would double the grip of the set up
Yes I was forgetting about the clutch pulleys was just envisioning a rock crusher I use to work on that had like 5 belts on the pulleys with a big counter weight on it
Mower God sharing his secrets
Been drilling holes in my pulley’s for over 22 years. Was common sense where im from. First one i did was one i was 8.
@@frankLaidlaw69 where are you from? I wish i would have known this years ago
Seems like the optimal formula would be pulley diameter x two with 3/16 to 1/4" hole, evenly spaced, throughout the belts contact point to pulley. Both sides straight through with a drill press or drill each side individually with the holes staggered symmetrically.
I agree with you here
How do I do this for my zero turn
Figure it out
Use a wire wheel o your drill holes on your pulley
A ball burr would help with the holes inside of pulley.
Good suggestion!
3in on the trans 5 or 6in on engine clutch backwards your lawnmower will go 45 without touching the governor by adding a rope you’ll better have control that lawnmower will go much faster much fast meaning I crashed by doing this you’ll have less wheelies but more speed a lot of speed lol so y’all listen to this man because my engine is probably toasted lol was a cool 20$ for a quick fast go kart
I have a 2.5 inch pulley on my mower and have no sliping butt i don’t do any off roading
Thats what they all say!
Now you need to do a video on why you need locked transmissions😂
Plenty of people argued that for years, all of Michigan was dead convinced they didnt need locked transaxles
@@redzz02 did you ever make a video? I'm interested and new to the scene. Working on my first off-road build
@@RandoManFPV i did not, if youre offroading or doing hills of any kind, locked diff is a must
17,000 trampoline springs. Had me going bra
Ffs i gotta get back into mowers. I could build some shit in my machine shop that my 13 year old self would have never dreamed of.
You sure as heck need too!
I think my belt is just worn because recently it just started slipping in the rain
Definitely worn out
The best belt dressing is spelled: H O N E Y.
I would not say being homeless gives you any guarantee. We are living in a world full of people doing drugs.
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My eyes! My eyes! Please stop poking my eyes!
Dont tell me what to do
Talk about belts for a stoner you Talk logical since