@alyssalong4755 Thats insane if you truly believe Liam never loved Steffy. He did too much for that woman over the years for it to not be love. Yes he's a little selfish by nature but to say he only loves himself is ludicrous
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi he didn’t do anything for her or anyone else unless it was a benefit to him. The benefit was to be able to sleep with her and run back to her everytime hope was done with him
If Hope and Liam were meant to be nothing would have stopped them. To this day Hope and Liam have only truly been married once and it lasted less than a year. They have had 6 weddings and that is because Hope cares more about the perfect wedding rather than her actual marriage.
Why, because she was upset about watching Liam kissing Steffy. If it was me, I wouldn't have put the ring on the mantle, I would have walked down to the car and handed it to him.
@@teishagonzalez1545 the truth is Liam loves both women. The problem is, he knows Hope cant be alone. When things went south with Liam, she ran to Oliver or Liams brother. Things go wrong with Liam Steffy doesn't. Steffy knows Liam will grow tired of being with Hope and come back to her. However now she is tired of it. Liam would be married to both if he could.
Yep. Steffy met Liam 1st, slept with him 1st, married him 1st, got pregnant by him 1st and had his first born child. Only thing Hope did was date him 1st. She was 2nd in just about everything else lol
"$DOLLARBill' Spencer's KInda 'right" about That, 'about" Hope Logan, 'saying" Hopeless 'head case". Now "few' years "Later', Hope Made a 'disaterous" choice to marry Step-brother, THOMAS FORRESTER, only 'for' His boy ,Doug. Not 'only", In "few" Weeks, HOPE will Turn 'into" $Bill Spencers, WORD, 'HOPELESS Head case", and 'Worse", She's 'also" spiraling, And Going "into' Road 'TO" madness. !!
I miss this Steffy!! They have made her soft . . . They all kept saying Steffy doesn’t stand a chance but ummmm NO ONE MADE HIM PROPOSE!! That was all Liam no manipulation from Steffy! She was just looking to spend the night 🤷🏽♀️ but didn’t Hope turn around and do the exact same thing with Wyatt!! One day she was waiting by the Eiffel Tower to marry Liam and the same day . . . She married Wyatt
Bill: My son is himself again Me: The reason why I like Steam better than Lope. Liam is always so jittery around Hope but around Steffy he is so chill.
Hope messed up big time, that's what she get for not confronting the situation day one...now the race is on will it be Steffy or Hope...the answer is Steffy for stepping up the plan, because dumb founded said...Yes!!!
Taylor and Steffy look remarkably alike in this episode. Great casting. For once Tylo's lips did something right - they're very similar to her daughter actress, lol.
@@1TruPolish it wasn't what did Hope gain 🧐 absolutely nothing she's literally married to a man with a divided heart and as soon as there was a problem, Liam couldn't run to Steffy fast enough 😂 if you ask me Steffy is the real winner because she got off that marry go round and married a better man.
Maybe if Ridge's suggestion had been given a chance we wouldn't have had that miserable triangle. Then again these silly writers would have just come up with another way to prolong this mess.
Bill was on the ball! Too bad he didnt have a minister on board to marry then at 30,000ft. That would have been good Tv! Hope running around trying to stop the wedding only to find them "celebrating" their honeymoon. The gondola was dramatic but the rat race surrounding it was exhausting.
i didnt like the gondola scene our Steffy is stronger and she wouldnt of needed this begging victim scene for Hopeless but years later like Steffy says she cant understand why she put up with so much shite from Liam and Hope
10:08 Taylor used to be a stickler for the truth but throws it out the window now just so her daughter could be a rebound so she can stick it to Brooke. Ridge is the only reasonable one here. Let the 3 of them talk it out without any manipulative parents around. If Liam really wanted steffy he would have stayed with her regardless of what hope said
Both Steffie and Bill are wrong for interfering in Hope and Liam’s relationship. Ridge is right Hope, Liam and Steffie need to sit down and have a real talk about how Liam feels. Everyone knows a marriage on the rebound never lasts.
Clearly I am on the same page as Bill because I would have done the same thing if I was Steffy only without having to pout to Bill. Would have been out the door first thing in the morning!
How can anyone watch this episode and not see Bill and Steffy plotting .. knowing if the Liam and Hope got the chance to talk they would make up ... again how does any woman accept a ring meant for someone else ... I would not
Brooke hurt her daughter intentionally.She is a grown woman.She knew if she sleeps with a man without protection that it is a possibility that she will get pregnant.She slept with Deacon like he was her husband.Nothing unintentional about that.
bill can try to convince himself and anyone else as much as he likes, but i dont think his beef with hope is that she hurt liam. his beef with hope is that she isnt steffy. i think bill never stopped loving steffy and only went back to katie out of obligation. bill was ready to leave katie before her health scare, and then he went back to her because he felt guilty. bill knew he couldnt have steffy, so instead he lives vicariously through liam which is why he was always committed to keeping steffy in the family.
Steffy Forrester was so desperate to hold on to Liam she had to use big bad Bill Spencer to do her dirty work 😡 Bill and Steffy deeply loved each other but they decide to break up another couple that loved each other deeply ❤️💋 ho Steffy Forrester deceit is always exposed😮
Some psychiatrist. Her daughter is engaged to someone who was engaged to someone else less than 24 hours ago and thinks he can truly love her daughter. No real psychiatrist would be ok with this.
These characters think that the most important thing in life is to be in a relationship. What a croc! They are simply showing us co-dependency in its most infantile form. Don't ya just love B&B, LOL. It's so nonsensical.
Rather... The most important thing is being marryred. Relationships aren'honoured there, if not marryed, it is okay to go kiss occasionally someones partner
I'm more successful than anyone else I know because my success is my marriage. If you truly want to be happy in life then being in a happy and healthy relationship is the best way to achieve that. Do you know how many rich people are truly happy? Not many because they care more about their job and their money. I spend 24/7 with my husband and we have not had a disagreement or a fight in almost 9 years. I am happy every single day because my relationship is the most important thing in my life. I know that when it's my time to go, I will have no regrets. I won't be wishing that I spent more time with the one's I love or wonder if I did enough to show my family how much I love them. If your marriage/relationship isn't the most important thing to you then good luck not getting divorced.
You did act too hasty hope you should have taken your ring with you instead of putting it on the mantle 😁 you made a stupid decision but now you're trying to make it right and Steffy and Bill are interfering😮 I like Rick Forrester when he helped hope to try to get to Liam I like when he was a loving supporter brother instead of being a manipulator😮
I'm all for step-parents loving their stepkids but i cringe hearing Ridge call Hope his daughter especially because Nick was more closer to her lil Hope she adored Nick!
I'm not a fan of either but come on people. how can anyone not see that Bill and steffy are manipulating Liam knowing if he spoke to Hope he would definitely want her back. And why would Steffy want to be a rebound? I know I sure as hell wouldn't want to be.
What’s with Bill always trying to get his grown son with Steffy? Is it bc he broke her heart? Or just wants to keep the skank in his family. You know all this manipulation and lies shouldn’t be if Steffy and Liam are meant to be...seems forced. Hope and Liam is meant to be but the writers screwed it up.
If Hope and Liam were meant to be nothing would have stopped them. To this day Hope and Liam have only truly been married once and it lasted less than a year. They have had 6 weddings and that is because Hope cares more about the perfect wedding rather than her actual marriage.
So true. Hope or Brooke didn't have to do any manipulation to get Liam. Steffi needed Bill to help her get his son. She seems so proud of her actions. Its pitiful that a woman have to stoop so low to get a man.
No hope was at the gondola line an steffy dropped her card credit card an looked back an seen hope in line so that's how steffy an bill orchestrated this bybhavin it stopped an had hope traped in it I watched it
Well she is the center of attention she thinks she's all that an shes not she's a homewrecker an a recon ball hope an liam are my favorite always will be 😊
@@Amber01able she had her mom routing for her. Hope had her mom Ridge was just trying to stay out of it And Bill manipulated things with steffie If she was soooooo meant for liam there would be no need for manipulation. Running off. Trapping people in gondolas Jumping into a marriage.
Melissa:😠Disagree. That would have been big mistake on Hope's part. Steffy could wipe the floor with her ass, without much effort. Team Steffy all the way!!
Liam and Steffy just fit together. Just fun, laughter and passion
No her and Finn fit together not her and Liam. Liam fits with no one
@@alyssalong4755 Finn is bland as a brick wall. Screw Finn
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi Finn loved her while Liam loves nobody but himself
@alyssalong4755 Thats insane if you truly believe Liam never loved Steffy. He did too much for that woman over the years for it to not be love. Yes he's a little selfish by nature but to say he only loves himself is ludicrous
@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi he didn’t do anything for her or anyone else unless it was a benefit to him. The benefit was to be able to sleep with her and run back to her everytime hope was done with him
Lol soon as Liam saw Steffy on the plane he was in outer space. She always took his breath away
If Hope and Liam were meant to be nothing would have stopped them. To this day Hope and Liam have only truly been married once and it lasted less than a year. They have had 6 weddings and that is because Hope cares more about the perfect wedding rather than her actual marriage.
I couldn't have said it better myself 🙌🏾🙌🏾
is it really only 6?? thought they had cracked 10 by now!
If Steffy and Liam were ment to be together they would still be married as well.
How many times have they been married?
@@sabrinajohnsson2389 Mic Drop!
@@sabrinajohnsson2389 and every one of those times they made it to the altar. Hope married Wyatt 2mins after supposedly meeting with Liam.
Bill have a warped sense of humour "Hope-less" LMAO 😂
Tttgyyyyyy
😂, they crazy
I see a pattern here Ridge bouncing from Taylor and Brooke. Liam is just like ridge when there is problems he goes to steffy.
Liam engaged to HOPE one day and the next day engaged to Steffy. Behave just liked ridge.
Liam has the Same Humour & Steffy Too deep Black & i have him Too !!!
Hope needs to grow up
Amen!!!
Why, because she was upset about watching Liam kissing Steffy. If it was me, I wouldn't have put the ring on the mantle, I would have walked down to the car and handed it to him.
She will never grow up as long as she has mama dear fighting her battle and telling her what to do all the time. Brooke need to let Hope grow up.
Still.in 2021 she still needs to grow up . So does Liam.
Liam needs to grow up
I love how Steffy just dropped everything for Liam.
Hope not so much.
Me too! Makes for a great soap couple!
Exactly their such a great couple
Wos really to become his fall back girl his second option because his hard up!! And where a other woman ring on that is disgrace for any woman
@@teishagonzalez1545 the truth is Liam loves both women. The problem is, he knows Hope cant be alone. When things went south with Liam, she ran to Oliver or Liams brother. Things go wrong with Liam Steffy doesn't. Steffy knows Liam will grow tired of being with Hope and come back to her. However now she is tired of it. Liam would be married to both if he could.
Everything drop for a man? That's way I don't like Steffie
in the end steffi not only married liam first, and 3 times, she also had his first child..... legitimately
And Second and mayby 4
Yep. Steffy met Liam 1st, slept with him 1st, married him 1st, got pregnant by him 1st and had his first born child. Only thing Hope did was date him 1st. She was 2nd in just about everything else lol
Yeah because she tricked him. She grosssss
I love these Liam and steffy’s scenes so much I can literally quote them
BRUH I CAN NOT WITH BILL 😂😂😂😂
The birth of the title, HOPELESS
"$DOLLARBill' Spencer's KInda 'right" about That, 'about" Hope Logan, 'saying" Hopeless 'head case". Now "few' years "Later', Hope Made a 'disaterous" choice to marry Step-brother, THOMAS FORRESTER, only 'for' His boy ,Doug. Not 'only", In "few" Weeks, HOPE will Turn 'into" $Bill Spencers, WORD, 'HOPELESS Head case", and 'Worse", She's 'also" spiraling, And Going "into' Road 'TO" madness. !!
That was really savage
I miss this Steffy!! They have made her soft . . . They all kept saying Steffy doesn’t stand a chance but ummmm NO ONE MADE HIM PROPOSE!! That was all Liam no manipulation from Steffy! She was just looking to spend the night 🤷🏽♀️ but didn’t Hope turn around and do the exact same thing with Wyatt!! One day she was waiting by the Eiffel Tower to marry Liam and the same day . . . She married Wyatt
Bill: My son is himself again
Me: The reason why I like Steam better than Lope. Liam is always so jittery around Hope but around Steffy he is so chill.
Bill! I can't! HOPE-LESS! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Also serves Rhymes with Dope (Bill again! 🤣🤣) right!
Hope messed up big time, that's what she get for not confronting the situation day one...now the race is on will it be Steffy or Hope...the answer is Steffy for stepping up the plan, because dumb founded said...Yes!!!
Liam did the same thing when thought he saw Hope kissing Thomas it was the mannequin
You want your daughter to chase a guy that spent the night with her worst rival what kind of parent is brooke
This is all funny to me. I’m trying to figure out while these parents are alllllll up in their kids love lives!
People really need to pay attention! Steffy was going up the mountain to marry Liam before she even saw Hope! She had a dress in her hand already
Team steffy and liam
Renelle:👍👍Yes~~team Steam💙
Taylor and Steffy look remarkably alike in this episode. Great casting. For once Tylo's lips did something right - they're very similar to her daughter actress, lol.
Steffy looks just like me
I miss this Bill, ruthless. Now he's been Loganized......🤮
Right!!!!!
@@1TruPolish it wasn't what did Hope gain 🧐 absolutely nothing she's literally married to a man with a divided heart and as soon as there was a problem, Liam couldn't run to Steffy fast enough 😂 if you ask me Steffy is the real winner because she got off that marry go round and married a better man.
I can agree with you there
Im glad stephy and liam are engaged. It's about time
Bill is the drama queen of bold and beautiful
Ridge never stood up for his kids
Hope's his kid, too. God damn it.
No she's Deacon's kid
@@deq410 Deacon is her biological father. Ridge has raised her. It's pretty shocking to read such narrow minded old fashioned views like yours. 😔😔😔
I love Dollar Bill 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Go stuffy girl get your men
Maybe if Ridge's suggestion had been given a chance we wouldn't have had that miserable triangle. Then again these silly writers would have just come up with another way to prolong this mess.
If you mean that the three of them get in a room and talk, then I agree.
hope-less. a classic!🤣😂
😂 yes and she’s still absolutely just as hopeless today as she was back then
Bill was on the ball! Too bad he didnt have a minister on board to marry then at 30,000ft. That would have been good Tv! Hope running around trying to stop the wedding only to find them "celebrating" their honeymoon. The gondola was dramatic but the rat race surrounding it was exhausting.
i didnt like the gondola scene our Steffy is stronger and she wouldnt of needed this begging victim scene for Hopeless but years later like Steffy says she cant understand why she put up with so much shite from Liam and Hope
this is when Bell writers started making Steffy look stupid and the blondes were bound to win again
They wrote her in a bad light a long time ago.
I love bill he’s absolutely the best
HOPE-LESS 🤣
10:08 Taylor used to be a stickler for the truth but throws it out the window now just so her daughter could be a rebound so she can stick it to Brooke. Ridge is the only reasonable one here. Let the 3 of them talk it out without any manipulative parents around. If Liam really wanted steffy he would have stayed with her regardless of what hope said
Both Steffie and Bill are wrong for interfering in Hope and Liam’s relationship. Ridge is right Hope, Liam and Steffie need to sit down and have a real talk about how Liam feels. Everyone knows a marriage on the rebound never lasts.
17:51 And bam! there goes Ridge's foolish decision to put all FC's budget into publicising Hope's wedding. LOL!
Clearly I am on the same page as Bill because I would have done the same thing if I was Steffy only without having to pout to Bill. Would have been out the door first thing in the morning!
Bill and Steffy even sounded like they're so manipulative😮😮🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I love how Bill helped Steffy lol Bill had and always will want Steffy and have a place for steffy
Yeah. Without realizing Steffy is using Liam as a toy to hurt Hope by manipulating him and his strings.
That is Hope and Brooke's problem. Other people are nothing but a bump in their road.
Steffy going from father to son just like Brooke. Taylor must be so proud.
Of course Taylor didn't want a confrontation with all 3 of them... She knew exactly what would happen back then.
Lol Liam is nice but he is so naive and easily manipulated at times. And Bill is hilarious and evil. Best puppeteer
So that picture steffie took was never meant for her friend.
It was meant to hurt hope
And steffie knew it.
Hope-less💀
I do believe that Hope and Liam needed to talk to have some closure. The way Steffy and Bill colluded made everything unnecessarily complicated.
That’s so true but I wish Hope would’ve banned on that car door and went off on them and throw the ring off and not ever look back
How can anyone watch this episode and not see Bill and Steffy plotting .. knowing if the Liam and Hope got the chance to talk they would make up ... again how does any woman accept a ring meant for someone else ... I would not
Thats Hope!
As much I have always been a Steffy Liam fan i didn’t like the manipulations. Not like Brooke she slept around & hurt people unintentionally
Kinda hard to 'unintentionally sleep with your daughter and your sisters husbands and boyfriends.
Brooke hurt her daughter intentionally.She is a grown woman.She knew if she sleeps with a man without protection that it is a possibility that she will get pregnant.She slept with Deacon like he was her husband.Nothing unintentional about that.
Hope was conceived cause of Brooke hurting her oldest daughter intentionally by sleeping with her husband
Technically everything went exactly as Liam wanted . He got faster bachelor party and then sex and the wedding . 😁😁😁
bill can try to convince himself and anyone else as much as he likes, but i dont think his beef with hope is that she hurt liam. his beef with hope is that she isnt steffy. i think bill never stopped loving steffy and only went back to katie out of obligation. bill was ready to leave katie before her health scare, and then he went back to her because he felt guilty. bill knew he couldnt have steffy, so instead he lives vicariously through liam which is why he was always committed to keeping steffy in the family.
Liam has always been ah fool from day one
Hope is the one who broke it off
Steffy Forrester was so desperate to hold on to Liam she had to use big bad Bill Spencer to do her dirty work 😡 Bill and Steffy deeply loved each other but they decide to break up another couple that loved each other deeply ❤️💋 ho Steffy Forrester deceit is always exposed😮
THE DECEIT THE LIES THE MALUPATION
ALL ADD UP TO 5 WORDS GANG💗💗💗
THE BOLD AND THE BEAUTIFUL😉😉😉
2.51, nice reaction Ridge!
Steffy sounds desperate and how sick is it that the same man she was messing with is now helping her con his son
Some psychiatrist. Her daughter is engaged to someone who was engaged to someone else less than 24 hours ago and thinks he can truly love her daughter. No real psychiatrist would be ok with this.
and pushing this knowing that hope and liam haven`t actually sort this out. what leads to constant cheating in steffy`s marriage
Bill Spencer treated Liam like an Aaron boy 😔 Steffy didn't respect his choices😮
Bill does not want Liam with that cry baby.
Do you ever sit and wonder that Liam and hope related. Like literally cousins
And Later StepSister and StepBrother
These characters think that the most important thing in life is to be in a relationship. What a croc! They are simply showing us co-dependency in its most infantile form. Don't ya just love B&B, LOL. It's so nonsensical.
Correct said!
Rather... The most important thing is being marryred. Relationships aren'honoured there, if not marryed, it is okay to go kiss occasionally someones partner
Taylor is blind to steffy
If I were hope I would tell hope tho kick liam to the curb. Liam and steffy deserve each other.
I'm more successful than anyone else I know because my success is my marriage. If you truly want to be happy in life then being in a happy and healthy relationship is the best way to achieve that. Do you know how many rich people are truly happy? Not many because they care more about their job and their money. I spend 24/7 with my husband and we have not had a disagreement or a fight in almost 9 years. I am happy every single day because my relationship is the most important thing in my life. I know that when it's my time to go, I will have no regrets. I won't be wishing that I spent more time with the one's I love or wonder if I did enough to show my family how much I love them. If your marriage/relationship isn't the most important thing to you then good luck not getting divorced.
You did act too hasty hope you should have taken your ring with you instead of putting it on the mantle 😁 you made a stupid decision but now you're trying to make it right and Steffy and Bill are interfering😮 I like Rick Forrester when he helped hope to try to get to Liam I like when he was a loving supporter brother instead of being a manipulator😮
Steffy Forrester is wearing hope the ring 💍 that Liam Spencer gave to her how are you not like your mother being second best 😔
I'm all for step-parents loving their stepkids but i cringe hearing Ridge call Hope his daughter especially because Nick was more closer to her lil Hope she adored Nick!
Sorry no hope and Liam don't belong together stephy and Liam belong l
Bill want Steffy to be his daughter in-law and at the same time he shut down Ridge's advertising campaign "Hope for the future"!
Yes it is over hope you lost Liam for good
Bill needs to stop
Back then, Ridge still considered Hope his daughter. I hae that the writers changed that!
Come on girls get over it
Ridge is right
I think Ridge is the most reasonable chracter
Hope lookin like one the hee haw girls 😆😆
Hope 👎👎👎👎👎😡😡😡😡😡
Preach 13:40 6:21
I'm not a fan of either but come on people. how can anyone not see that Bill and steffy are manipulating Liam knowing if he spoke to Hope he would definitely want her back. And why would Steffy want to be a rebound? I know I sure as hell wouldn't want to be.
Steffy was always liam second option I will never be a man second option I wouldn't degrade myself like that or where other woman ring
What’s with Bill always trying to get his grown son with Steffy? Is it bc he broke her heart? Or just wants to keep the skank in his family. You know all this manipulation and lies shouldn’t be if Steffy and Liam are meant to be...seems forced. Hope and Liam is meant to be but the writers screwed it up.
Cascia Proctor great love is always based on tragedy and pain.
MsGhost79 maybe in Shakespearean tragedy but not in real life
If Hope and Liam were meant to be nothing would have stopped them. To this day Hope and Liam have only truly been married once and it lasted less than a year. They have had 6 weddings and that is because Hope cares more about the perfect wedding rather than her actual marriage.
So true. Hope or Brooke didn't have to do any manipulation to get Liam. Steffi needed Bill to help her get his son. She seems so proud of her actions. Its pitiful that a woman have to stoop so low to get a man.
Sara: STHU. YOU KNOW NOTHING. TEAM Steffy all the way!!
Bill is such a bad father, bug off!
saralookon you mean Ridge?? Ridge is pathetic
Another thing Taylor's self righteousness about respecting an engagement .... too much
Stop the glandular for hope she won’t get out leave her there bill tell her back of stay away from Liam
SomethingGotInTheWayOfHopeAndLiamSteffy
Yes stephy andLiam will be together no they don't belong together
Liam ♥️ was selfish and hope ♥️ deserve s so much better than Liam ♥️ waffling ass and she found it with Wyatt 💜 awsome couple
Wats wrong with a girl getting married and try to be safe.... OMG.. Here in our country, boy is allowed to see the girl under the guidance
No hope was at the gondola line an steffy dropped her card credit card an looked back an seen hope in line so that's how steffy an bill orchestrated this bybhavin it stopped an had hope traped in it I watched it
Hope-less is born 😂😂😂🤣
This is when the show got a little annoying. I miss Ronn Moss and Hunter Tylo on the show.
What r u doing Bill?
Stop the glandular for hope leave her there she won’t get out Lea e her there thanks bill
No they don't belong together yall are highly mistaken I don't like steffy she steps in to much I adore hope more
Well she is the center of attention she thinks she's all that an shes not she's a homewrecker an a recon ball hope an liam are my favorite always will be 😊
Hope can do much better than Liam
Nicole Gough hope deserve much beter than liam
Now I know why Liam and Steffis relationship didnt work,It started with manipulation. Hope and Liam are now together.
and theyre miserable while she has finn! she wins!
It started with manipulation but Liam eventually developed real feelings for Steffy. That's why he's always drawn to her even today
Nill is no good tun him brook
Bill is cold blooded, Katie needs to slap Bill again
Steffie runnin and runnin to her billie boy. Ever since day one of her and liam. She was conspiring with bill. Insicure little girl
hope had the logan gang to do her moves for her so why shouldn't steffy have someone routing for her
@@Amber01able I agree with you on that one!! Team Steffy!!
@@Amber01able she had her mom routing for her.
Hope had her mom
Ridge was just trying to stay out of it
And Bill manipulated things with steffie
If she was soooooo meant for liam there would be no need for manipulation. Running off.
Trapping people in gondolas
Jumping into a marriage.
Hope ♥️ should of punched steffy out 💯😠
Melissa:😠Disagree. That would have been big mistake on Hope's part. Steffy could wipe the floor with her ass, without much effort. Team Steffy all the way!!
😂😂😂 Why because everything Steffy said was the truth.
Taylor and her overblown lips are so nonessential