Everyone is so quick to blame the other woman (here being Steffy). But remember something, you cannot steal a man that does not want to be stolen. Liam clearly leaned forward and started the kiss even though Steffy may have said the words
Absolutely. He wanted the kiss. I mean he had already kissed her earlier in the day when they were at Spencer's Publications and he was kissing her multiple times for weeks before this. He was falling for her but he was trying to deny it
I have morals. I wouldnt go after a man that is taken and telling mw repeatedly hes happy. Steffy FORCED herself into liams life only by being the 1 thing hope wasnt. Sexual. Its so gross to watch.
Maaannn the reason Liam and Hope were always apart was their LACK OF COMMUNICATION not Steffy not Bill....its ridiculous. If those two knew how to honest with each other then nobody would have bern able to manipulate them period
She should've stood her ground, but as usual she ran home to Mama...this is how all this Hope, Liam, Steffy started...she should've grabbed Liam out the car and got him straight along with Steffy, but left her ring on the mantle and called Liam from the bushes...childish behavior started this back and forth drama...l called this scene...The Beginning!!!
Liam thought he could dip his toe in the pool without getting wet lol. He kept giving Steffy tiny pieces of himself and he thought that was OK, but eventually Steffy's appetite grew. She wanted the whole thing and Liam always got scared lol
Claire Lally it’s ridiculous and stupid! One minute she wants to wait until marriage the next minute she wants to move in!! That is not something you do without discussing it with your fiancé
Ok i do feel bad for Hope here. She was bragging to Steffy that Liam wasnt gonna fall for any of her "tricks" and then she gets a front row seat to her fiance making out with her step-sister. So that had to suck lol. However, to not tell Liam the reason why you broke off the engagement was incredibly stupid, especially when you know Steffy is right there to pick up the pieces. But thats what Hope does. Makes an irrational emotional decision and then sleeps it off and wake up feeling regret the next day
I don’t feel bad for Hope at all. I don’t feel sorry for her one bit. After all the antagonizing and gloating she did to STEFFY. No I don’t have one bit of sympathy for her
you see other woman putting moves on your bf and your answer is to run away. your fiancee breaks up with you and your answer is to put a ring to another woman`s finger - who does this??!!! this whole thing is stupid
Hope should have been a grown up and confronted him. Say “Hey, what the hell were you doing kissing Steffy?” Doing things the way she did just proved how childish she really is. She definitely wasn’t ready for a mature relationship yet.
Liam shouldn't have let Steffy kiss him or even kiss her back. But honestly? After seeing them kiss, instead of talking to him and sorting it out like mature couples do, Hope hides in the bushes and ends it without any hint as to why. Just makes him feel like its all his doing. Not even considering her part in this? If that is how they communicate then their marriage wouldn't have worked anyway.
She was very into ans in love with liam. Liam was a guy whobcouldnt commit to a damn thing. Ahlnd steffie is gonna learn tht lesson soon. Yet both woman clong to this liam fantasy fir the next decade
@@havenmarie2340 In the early seasons they were fun to watch but during this time what a yawn. They do nothing but kiss the same way, the chase is over.
In the last episode Rick could see the front of Liams car with Ayeffy in the driver's seat. But this one he is looking at the rear of the car when he gets out of his. LMAO!!!! THIS EDITING KILLS ME!!!
Exactly. She acted like a little kid and ran away. Then was shocked that Liam and Steffy got hitched. If she had just talked to him, it would have never happened
@raye xo, started watching in 1990. Love the show so much back then used to rush home to watch it or videotaped it when i couldn't be home then binge watched on the weekends. These days i don't even bother to watch even when i'm home and last year took it off my DVR.
Lol the end of this episode was epic. Liam holding the ring, shocked, heartbroken and vulnerable and there was Steffy, ready to pounce on this situation like a Vulture lol
'You" know What's "real' Sad- LIAM SPENCER become somewhat Disappointment to 'his" daddy, $BILL Spencer later On, Because 'he"(Liam) couldn't live 'up" To Spencer 'name", And "$Dollar' Bill's expectations.
I agree with the fact that hope acted immaturly. But steffy only went after taken men. Who wants someone who slept with their dad and obsessed over for months. Its so crazy that so many people look at this and blame hope. The one with morals. The one who didbt cheat or lie at this point. She was nothing but faithful. Meanwhike steffy is out opening her legs for only taken men. Who does that lol. She didnt want liam till bill turned her down. It makes me sick to see women support women who intentionally try to destroy a couple. I may not agree with all of hopes morals and choices. But steffy has only ever wanted what hope had. I really question sometimes whether were all watching the same show.
Steffy just had to take Liam from Hope with lies and deceit. If she had stayed out of it, Liam asked Hope to marry not Steffy with her manipulations!!!!!
I get that Liam had sex with Amber willingly and now Hope saw him kissing Steffy. And I get that two out of the three times she was going to give herself to Liam he let her down. But come on!!! They should have matured Hope real quick and for good when she found out that Liam put her ring on Steffy's finger! Girl...Love yourself!!!
Hope is not stupid. But, she should jave marched to that car. Banged in that window. And get her man out of there. Steffie was constantly hissing in his ear crap about hope.
@patience271 yes, you see it that way because you love Steffy no matter what and that's the story the writers want to tell to make us choose sides. Hope 'interfering' somehow makes it right oe justifies what happend to her. Really? How can you compare what Steffy did willingly years ago knowing that it would have destroyed Hope, obnoxiuos, pretender or not, with what happend with Beth's SL? Beth's birth it's a horror story, that's what it is. No one deserves that. Steffy spent 9 months crying and suffering because of what SHE did to herself. She cheated on her husband with her father in law. They write these stories because they know how people would react. I'm not blind, I can see Hope's flaws but I see Steffy flaws too and I don't like her with Liam, she should be with another man. That's all.
@patience271 you are really a hater poor woman but hope and steffy deserve happiness with new man lope and steam will be never be the same but the writer make the decision
'$DOLLARBIll" should've considered 'put" Liam up for adoption. even, "Deep down' Even Liam knew Bill Spencer wasnt 'Normal" man, Or 'normal" dad. Also, LIAM SPENCER "should've' considered 'quit" Spencer P., 'even" he Kinda knew Spencer "Publications' was A 'brutal" job place.
I think Steffy had so much mental issues at this point that she think she only only a little naughty, when here actions and wprds is really disgusting and evil. Hope is a selfish child with a disturbed 'expectation of reality'
I love Steffy but she was wayyyyy too desperate here. As much as steam lights up the screen, Steffy appears to have always been Lame’s second choice despite having many firsts with him. Hope has always been immature and I still don’t understand the lure of Lope but at this point, find a real man for Steffy.
I was a Steam fan but not in the beginning or at least not right now, Liam should’ve let Steffy down instead of kissing her and Hope needed to stop running away from her problems smh and really Liam knew Hope wanted to wait so if he couldn’t handle that he’s not meant to be with Hope. Liam always felt like he owed Hope since he never did right by her, Hope and Liam were together first but that doesn’t mean it was meant to be since he had better chemistry with Steffy and they actually fit each other while him and Hope have lack of communication and he never helped with their wedding while he always helped Steffy planned their weddings
Liam tried to fight his feelings for Steffy but he folded everytime she was near him back then lol. He still does today whenever hes alone with her
Everyone is so quick to blame the other woman (here being Steffy). But remember something, you cannot steal a man that does not want to be stolen. Liam clearly leaned forward and started the kiss even though Steffy may have said the words
Yes thank you
Absolutely. He wanted the kiss. I mean he had already kissed her earlier in the day when they were at Spencer's Publications and he was kissing her multiple times for weeks before this. He was falling for her but he was trying to deny it
Period ❤❤❤
@@mermaidreviews4693 liam never Hope he always be in love Steffy ?.
I have morals. I wouldnt go after a man that is taken and telling mw repeatedly hes happy. Steffy FORCED herself into liams life only by being the 1 thing hope wasnt. Sexual. Its so gross to watch.
Liam kissed Steffy like he was just waiting for that to happen lool He kissed her very passionately.
He’s always kisses Steffy very passionately
Like making Love in the Car
He was waiting..He was fantasizing about her ever since he saved her from the bathtub
no one forced Liam to kiss Steffy He could have got out of the car so i think he was lingering and hoping for Steffy to make a move
True. It was stupid of him to do that while engaged to someone else.
And Steffy being the SL** she is made it
Maaannn the reason Liam and Hope were always apart was their LACK OF COMMUNICATION not Steffy not Bill....its ridiculous. If those two knew how to honest with each other then nobody would have bern able to manipulate them period
And it continues to be their problem...
And Steffy the SL** interfering
Yes thank you
And now they're divorced and hopefully stay that way.
I think Hope and Liam signal the divorce papers.@@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi
She should've stood her ground, but as usual she ran home to Mama...this is how all this Hope, Liam, Steffy started...she should've grabbed Liam out the car and got him straight along with Steffy, but left her ring on the mantle and called Liam from the bushes...childish behavior started this back and forth drama...l called this scene...The Beginning!!!
the beginning was Liam looked back to the tent on the engagement night
It started because Steffy is a SL**!!!
It's gross that brooke wants to call hope when she thinks hope is planning on being intimate for the first time.
Hopeless seeing Liam and Steffy kissing is hilarious to me 😂😂
Her Face😂😂😂😂😭
Me, too! God, Rick and Hope spying...geesh! How weird!
Lmao its so messed up but somehow funny as hell
It shows how immature you people are if you are for steffy
Liam thought he could dip his toe in the pool without getting wet lol. He kept giving Steffy tiny pieces of himself and he thought that was OK, but eventually Steffy's appetite grew. She wanted the whole thing and Liam always got scared lol
Hope decided to move in with him without even talking to him first?????
She wanted to surprise him! It's not like when Steffy took upon herself to move back in while Liam was at Hope's begging her to reunite with him.
Claire Lally it’s ridiculous and stupid! One minute she wants to wait until marriage the next minute she wants to move in!! That is not something you do without discussing it with your fiancé
That part
@@crisvanfan That is Hope in her fairy tale world live!
@@feuerwehrluetzen and her blowing out the candles like her world just ended.. get a grip!!!
Ok i do feel bad for Hope here. She was bragging to Steffy that Liam wasnt gonna fall for any of her "tricks" and then she gets a front row seat to her fiance making out with her step-sister. So that had to suck lol. However, to not tell Liam the reason why you broke off the engagement was incredibly stupid, especially when you know Steffy is right there to pick up the pieces. But thats what Hope does. Makes an irrational emotional decision and then sleeps it off and wake up feeling regret the next day
I don’t feel bad for Hope at all. I don’t feel sorry for her one bit. After all the antagonizing and gloating she did to STEFFY. No I don’t have one bit of sympathy for her
you see other woman putting moves on your bf and your answer is to run away. your fiancee breaks up with you and your answer is to put a ring to another woman`s finger - who does this??!!!
this whole thing is stupid
Why couldn't Hope just say "I saw you kiss Steffy". This is so ridiculous LOL
Cuz shes still a litle girl immature self absorbed loving drama and attention.
this is how Logans work they guilt trip their men Katie did this Brooke did this
And they keep on doing it until today’s date... especially Brooke and Hopeless, they always guilt-trip Liam into being with Hopeless lol
Hope should have been a grown up and confronted him. Say “Hey, what the hell were you doing kissing Steffy?” Doing things the way she did just proved how childish she really is. She definitely wasn’t ready for a mature relationship yet.
Exactly right.
liam kissed Steffy he said he shouldn't have done but he did
Period
Liam and hope broke each other's hearts.. wierd rewatching these scenes years later.
Hope didn't break his heart
Hope did break Liam heart when she kissed Thomas in Rome
Liam shouldn't have let Steffy kiss him or even kiss her back. But honestly? After seeing them kiss, instead of talking to him and sorting it out like mature couples do, Hope hides in the bushes and ends it without any hint as to why. Just makes him feel like its all his doing. Not even considering her part in this? If that is how they communicate then their marriage wouldn't have worked anyway.
Ashlee exactly!
Facts
Micdrop. Boom!
Exactly. And she does this over and over again throughout their relationship.
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This is why Steffy is the better WOMAN for Liam, Hope is a little girl who gave up her Barbie dolls to fast.
OMG Brooke is calling Hope on what is suppose to be a very private and intimate night? Geeez cut the cord!
Lol yes she just did this to Hope while she was in the bed with Thomas she didn’t even leave for them to get dressed
@@mermaidreviews4693 that’s because Brooke’s not having it! Hope will not keep seeing Thomas. 😂😂😂 still hasn’t cut that cord.
hope was never fully into liam she was a child with a childs view of playing Happy Families
She was very into ans in love with liam. Liam was a guy whobcouldnt commit to a damn thing. Ahlnd steffie is gonna learn tht lesson soon. Yet both woman clong to this liam fantasy fir the next decade
So true
And, this is still true of Hope way over here in 2019.
@raye xo in 2019 she no longer in love with Liam
Expecting your fiance to keep his hands to himself isn't childish.
i didnt like this bit Steffy is beautiful and certainly not second to Hopeless
Does anyone else fast forward each time Ridge and Brooke are on? So boring, almost as boring as Hope and Liam.
yes! everytime 🤣
@@havenmarie2340 Me too lol
I fast forward the Logan’s 😅
@@havenmarie2340 In the early seasons they were fun to watch but during this time what a yawn. They do nothing but kiss the same way, the chase is over.
In the last episode Rick could see the front of Liams car with Ayeffy in the driver's seat. But this one he is looking at the rear of the car when he gets out of his. LMAO!!!! THIS EDITING KILLS ME!!!
Instead of being childish Hope should’ve confronted Liam
Indeed. She decided to end it. You don't get do-overs in life.
Exactly. She acted like a little kid and ran away. Then was shocked that Liam and Steffy got hitched. If she had just talked to him, it would have never happened
The beginning of the triangle from hell. smh
@raye xo, the writers ran out of ideas and we got stuck with that idiot Liam.
@raye xo, started watching in 1990. Love the show so much back then used to rush home to watch it or videotaped it when i couldn't be home then binge watched on the weekends. These days i don't even bother to watch even when i'm home and last year took it off my DVR.
@raye xo, it used to be a wonderful show back then.
@raye xo he sitll cant in 2019 sitll play them both i really hope leave him and be with Thomas he loves her and he loves him just her right ?.
@@kitjune9333 in 2019 she falling in love with Thomas and she will get jelaous of Zoe she goes on date with him why she will get jelaous of her ?.
No manipulator at all its called fighting for the man you love gooooo Stephi lol
No it's called Steffy being a SL**!!!
After seeing the engagement ring Hope left on the fireplace mantle: *Palpatine voice* “Rise, Lord Steffy.”
Lol hey she did take advantage of Liam in his vulnerable state just like Palpatine took advantage of Anakin after he cut Mace Windu's hand off
I think Steffy was looking out for Liam because he saved her life and also its what Bill wanted of her
Hope's an effing child who can only throw a drama queen tantrum instead of confronting her problems.
Hope is such a baby she needs a pacifier
I think Liam still thinks Steffy is into his dad that's why he wouldn't give in
Lol the end of this episode was epic. Liam holding the ring, shocked, heartbroken and vulnerable and there was Steffy, ready to pounce on this situation like a Vulture lol
this showed how immature Hope was and i think she only has Liam out of guilt Liams guilt
No it showed what a SL** Steffy is
I didn't like the dropped photo or the way they made Steffy look second to a spoilt brat
Steffy is a SL**!!!
Steamy kiss
'You" know What's "real' Sad- LIAM SPENCER become somewhat Disappointment to 'his" daddy, $BILL Spencer later On, Because 'he"(Liam) couldn't live 'up" To Spencer 'name", And "$Dollar' Bill's expectations.
@@faisalahmed-dh5iv do u ever think he's on his on path
Liam and Steffy was the best! PERIODT
I agree with the fact that hope acted immaturly. But steffy only went after taken men. Who wants someone who slept with their dad and obsessed over for months. Its so crazy that so many people look at this and blame hope. The one with morals. The one who didbt cheat or lie at this point. She was nothing but faithful. Meanwhike steffy is out opening her legs for only taken men. Who does that lol. She didnt want liam till bill turned her down. It makes me sick to see women support women who intentionally try to destroy a couple. I may not agree with all of hopes morals and choices. But steffy has only ever wanted what hope had. I really question sometimes whether were all watching the same show.
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I think this is the only time rick has been at Liam's house during the entire show
Steffy acts just like Brooke. Everyone trashes Brooke not steffy she is the cool one. Don't get it.
Liam is probably secretly relieved to be rid of Hope at the end 😅😅😅
Steffy created enough doubt in Liam's head that he spent enough time in the car with her and even kissed her. Liam likes her.
Steffy just had to take Liam from Hope with lies and deceit. If she had stayed out of it, Liam asked Hope to marry not Steffy with her manipulations!!!!!
we have to remember Lope was a love story for a long time until Steffy came into his life
What makes me laugh is that it was okay for Hopeless to have choices aka Oliver but when Liam has a choice she wanted a commitment from him lol
Steffy meet Liam first #Steam wars First , Liam and Justin make the scandal from Brooke and Oliver
No, they weren't....she said her first true love was Oliver! She was with Liam for a hot minute!!! Pay attention....
love story with Amber in the shadow hahahahahhahahh Lets not forget He slept with Amber at least twice .... its a joke
I felt bad for hope during this episode that’s why she should have left Liam and never looked back
I get that Liam had sex with Amber willingly and now Hope saw him kissing Steffy. And I get that two out of the three times she was going to give herself to Liam he let her down. But come on!!! They should have matured Hope real quick and for good when she found out that Liam put her ring on Steffy's finger! Girl...Love yourself!!!
This music" Flowers in Attic weird"
How infantile of Hope to do this over the phone. Girl don’t need to get married, she needs to grow up.
What will this do to her campaign? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
no, i think the stupid hope should have come up stright!
hope was not stupid she was very young and naiv
Hope is not stupid
Hope is not stupid. But, she should jave marched to that car. Banged in that window. And get her man out of there. Steffie was constantly hissing in his ear crap about hope.
If hope stuck with this and meant it steffy and Liam deserve.each other
Hopeless, what a big baby. Now run home to mommy and get your bottle!!! LoL....
Ten years later Steffy caught Liam and Hope making out and Hope and she became the poor innocent victim, what goes around comes around
@patience271 yes, you see it that way because you love Steffy no matter what and that's the story the writers want to tell to make us choose sides. Hope 'interfering' somehow makes it right oe justifies what happend to her. Really? How can you compare what Steffy did willingly years ago knowing that it would have destroyed Hope, obnoxiuos, pretender or not, with what happend with Beth's SL? Beth's birth it's a horror story, that's what it is. No one deserves that. Steffy spent 9 months crying and suffering because of what SHE did to herself. She cheated on her husband with her father in law. They write these stories because they know how people would react. I'm not blind, I can see Hope's flaws but I see Steffy flaws too and I don't like her with Liam, she should be with another man. That's all.
@patience271 you are really a hater poor woman but hope and steffy deserve happiness with new man lope and steam will be never be the same but the writer make the decision
MsGhost79 ya right
Can you count? It was seven, not ten.
'$DOLLARBIll" should've considered 'put" Liam up for adoption. even, "Deep down' Even Liam knew Bill Spencer wasnt 'Normal" man, Or 'normal" dad. Also, LIAM SPENCER "should've' considered 'quit" Spencer P., 'even" he Kinda knew Spencer "Publications' was A 'brutal" job place.
Liam kissing Stephanie ruined everything
Steffy is SO manipulative......
she is not what someone say about you you be hurt ?
yes all the think she say its very bad she is jealous i must say the woman are blind when he loves steffy she is not right here
i agreed with you she is a sneaky
I think Steffy had so much mental issues at this point that she think she only only a little naughty, when here actions and wprds is really disgusting and evil.
Hope is a selfish child with a disturbed 'expectation of reality'
Jennifer T
You mean Hopeless!
I love Steffy but she was wayyyyy too desperate here. As much as steam lights up the screen, Steffy appears to have always been Lame’s second choice despite having many firsts with him. Hope has always been immature and I still don’t understand the lure of Lope but at this point, find a real man for Steffy.
Well he should of knew better ..
If nothing else steffy have these hogan women on the run!!!!.....look how fast Katie gone home to seduce Bill.
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If you see you fiancee making out whit a ader girl? What do you do ?
Hope is all pendeja.
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@@Bella-oy7jd😂😂 she is all necia and annoying.
@@vanessamichelle1474 For sure
HOpeless 1st time running away instead of just confronting the issue. First of many occasions.
And daar is Steffie again!
Happy Days!! Get it on at last Mr Whiner!
I was a Steam fan but not in the beginning or at least not right now, Liam should’ve let Steffy down instead of kissing her and Hope needed to stop running away from her problems smh and really Liam knew Hope wanted to wait so if he couldn’t handle that he’s not meant to be with Hope. Liam always felt like he owed Hope since he never did right by her, Hope and Liam were together first but that doesn’t mean it was meant to be since he had better chemistry with Steffy and they actually fit each other while him and Hope have lack of communication and he never helped with their wedding while he always helped Steffy planned their weddings