Cut and Altered Maps of Super Mario Sunshine | Cut Content
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2024
- Super Mario Sunshine had an ever changing development cycle featuring maps that were both cut and constantly changing. Today we explore these very maps.
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www.mariowiki.com/Super_Mario...
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Chapters:
0:00 - Cut and Altered Maps of Super Mario Sunshine
0:36 - Beta Delfino Plaza 2001 of Super Mario Sunshine
3:43 - Beta Bianco Hills 2001 of Super Mario Sunshine
5:07 - Beta Ricco Harbour 2001 of Super Mario Sunshine
6:16 - 2002 Beta Versions of Delfino Plaza, Bianco Hills, and Ricco Harbour of Super Mario Sunshine
7:34 - Beta Gelato Beach of Super Mario Sunshine
8:17 - Beta Noki Bay of of Super Mario Sunshine
9:02 - Beta Pinna Park / Pinna Beach of Super Mario Sunshine
9:56 - Beta Pinata Village of Super Mario Sunshine
10:02 - Beta Content of Flooded Delfino Plaza of Super Mario Sunshine
10:41 - Unused Shine Locations of Super Mario Sunshine
11:24 - Extro
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@@Cliffordlonghead A little early for Fi as Skyward Sword Cut Content is a little bits away :P
@@TheObsessiveGamer i mean First sorry
@@TheObsessiveGamer awesome video
Wish the gigaleak contained a beta of this game, same with Luigi's Mansion...
These games seem to have very interesting development histories where now I'm not so sure we'll ever get to have a better glimpse of.
Could always happen one day. I mean we never expected the Gigaleak. Could happen with the GameCube library too eventually
Same, but I really hope it happens to the Wii U games. Considering how much we know about the rollercoaster development cycle of Splatoon, it would be nuts if we could get access to the tofu block demo, rabbit pitch demo, or the Mario concept demo. Early Pikmin 3 stuff and early 3D world stuff would be pretty cool too
@@DeepdishBK i would also like to mention the pitch for breath of the wild, which was a 2D zelda game that demonstrated the concept of combining elements of nature to solve puzzles, which was shown off at a developer conference and is available on youtube somewhere
I hope for 3DS stuff, specifically Paper Mario Sticker Star. The E3 2010 beta is so elusive, even the trailer is only partially found.
The towers you see in the early maps is the airstrip, which would have originally connected to the plaza rather than being a boat ride away. Unused text refers to a level called Lighthouse Island, which the airstrip might have inherited the location of while the lighthouse was relocated to the plaza.
Yeah I presumed that to be the case, granted it is apparently a seperate map still as it not part of that heights map, so it is possible that the lighthouse island refers to that portion there since that tower can be a lighthouse too
That is so damn interesting!!
Remember seeing the big enemy years ago in a test map, that TERRIFIED me
Still amazing that it's still there...which we'll see again once I explore the test maps :P
It looks funny 🤣🤣 and nah i think the boos from sonic adventure 2 are way more scary than that stilt of a enemy
Definitely a scary enemy, no wonder they cut it. Basically a roaming boss, haha!
Seriouslly? For realz? For me it seemed like a funny and random enemy
Mario Sunshine needed 6 months more in development to flesh things out.
Honestly, I don't buy into the theory that Sunshine was rushed. I think that people say that because they didn't like the game. It's an excuse for them to try and justify not liking it. It seems very polished to me. I've always loved the game.
@@JMFSpike well there are some things that still need to be polished. you can take as example some of the physics, the fact of many enemies being used repeteadly (Gooper Blooper, the Goop Piranhas, how in some levels you get two red coins missions...) also taking in mind that they originally had the intention of using a more realistic way of going to other areas like trains etc with their ticket system, which got replaced by a more lazy writing way (just jump into magic paint portals)
also we can only see some intro cutscenes for a couple enemies (Gooper Blooper and Petey Piranha) but we dont see any more of these with other enemies. all of that changed and cut cause of the alleged rush they had to give to the game
@@JMFSpike the train system that was found in the game files is proof alone that more stuff got cut from the game due to time constraints.
I'm knew about some of the cut content like the big guy strolling through town there and the oddity of that book, but I didn't know we now actually have early map layouts and recreations of them, this has been an enjoyable watch and I'm looking forward to part 2 whenever that drops keep it up Gamer man, you are doing great.
Thank you! Yeah it's crazy how much of the earliest builds still stayed in here
these are so pleasant to watch
Thank you! :)
YES! Clicked on this immediatley.
Hope you enjoy this :)
I did. I've seen most of the beta footage before, but never compiled in a way that showed the beta videos and beta maps side by side like you have. Great Video@@TheObsessiveGamer
Well, technically, yoshi turns green for a few seconds right before he runs out of juice and dies 6:31
True. The dye washes off I guess :P
Really worth pointing out…… o_O
Yoshi may have been planned to be used in Noki Bay, Corona Mountain, and the casino in Sirena Beach as versions of the respective areas music with Yoshi bongos exist in the game’s coding; he was most likely cut from the former 2 areas due to the large amount of water and lava respectively in those areas as Yoshi can’t swim in Super Mario Sunshine.
I had a dream where the spaceworld 2001 mario sunshine prototype was LEAKED. And it was scary weird..
I mean considering how close the rendition of it is now, we aren't that off from a leak lol
Thank you so much for the tutorial and for putting this video together!
Oh heck, thank you very much! Much appreciate it and glad you enjoyed this! Enjoy the mod :)
So great to see you tackle one of my favorite games of all time. :D
Water Barrels weren't even removed from the Plaza/Game, they're in the early Delfino Plaza variants in the final game.
Those portals to the other levels makes me wonder if some or all of them were meant to be connected at some point, instead of Delfino Plaza being the exclusive way to travel between them. Reminds me of how SMW would let you find shortcuts to later levels earlier in the game, or how Odyssey would let you travel to other worlds through the paintings.
With how close they were, wouldn't surprise me if you could just openly even travel to them originally...course that might be a bit taxing on the GCN
Super Mario Sunshine just seems like a game where I'll always learn something new about it. I have never seen the early Pinna Park with Mecha Bowser screenshot for example. I really enjoy these videos and I'll definitely look forward to more!
Loved this, earned a sub!
Thank you! :)
Love your videos, man. You never fail to show me interesting tidbits on my favorite games. I always make sure to stop the videos just before the end so you don't shout at me, haha. Much love.
Haha it's not as crazy loud as it once was i'd say
@@TheObsessiveGamer hahaha definitely man. Your channel is awesome, one of my absolute favorites. Please keep up the amazing work!!!
Hey dude been subbed for a bit now. Really enjoy your content domt ever give up!
Thank you very much! Don't plan to :)
The secret door and book in Noki Bay is quite possibly one of the coolest easter eggs in any video game ever. It's just an awesome thing to discover, and the backstory behind it is fascinating. I'm sure that at least one person here in the comments has already mentioned this, but it wasn't just for decoration. It was part of a scrapped mission where you were suppose to go retrieve the book for one of the Noki. Anyway, if they ever make a remake or remaster, I hope they keep it in the game because I will be very upset if they don't. That book is legendary, much like Super Mario 64's "L is real 2401".
Love your videos man ❤
Thank you very much! :)
Not all the hidden levels have impossible 100 coin spawn locations cause if you collect 99 coins in the main level you keep them into the secret level as long as you dont die in the level. So a fair few of them are not unused. I have done this in the switch version of Sunshine
Oh that I know. I meant only for the actual unused ones
@@TheObsessiveGamer oh I see I think I misunderstood
JPN Version of the Delfino Secret Grass Box crashes if you get 100 Coins in it.
Great video!
Thanks!
I love your videos please never stop 🙏🏻
Never plan to :)
It’s a good thing you post feedback polls it’s always how I find the video. Idk why the actual video doesn’t show up.
Outside of feedback, this is one for t he reasons I make those lol
Super cool!
The beta feels like a real Final level design, while the “Final” level design feels like a Beta map.
perhaps they had to make things a little more simple cause of the alleged rush they had to give in the game
❤ thank you for this
Thank you for watching it :)
I remember getting all 120 stars suns on this game! Loved it when it came out
8:55 the original concept for this level was diving into the bottle to retrieve the book, so it was the main objective before the concept was scrapped in favour of collecting red coins, perhaps because they thought grabbing multiple collectibles was more fun and better as a tutorial for underwater hover mechanics
Any evidence on that? Haven't heard of this prior
You NEED to make a video on the Dark Cloud games! They have a huge pre-release history and looked entirely different throughout their development!
I absolutely Dark Cloud. Would love to do it eventually especially hearing here of the big history
@@TheObsessiveGamer my friend Hidden Castle made The Dark Cloud Compendium channel here on YT but there's still a ton of beta content on TCRF that he hasnt covered, I would love to see a DC video!
Sunshine was Odyssey before the Switch was even an idea. If they hadn't rushed things, it probably would have been much bigger and better than it ended up being
Yeah I feel technology and time kept it back really. Would love to see a successor to it. A return back to Delfino Isle
@@TheObsessiveGamer Agreed. Either a direct sequel or a full remake incorporating all the dropped ideas would be very nice.
In a way, I am fairly certain that Bowser's Fury is a spiritual successor to Sunshine. They use shine sprites (called cat shines) and water is a constant element of the game. It just ended up WAY smaller in scope than Sunshine
Dinosaur Planet next please
I'll plan to tackle that eventually :)
There actually was a green Yoshi in the original, when he loses all his juice he turns green before disappearing
my theory for the 100 coin shines is that without a spawn location, the game would crash.
Sunshine is still my favourite 3D Mario platformer, but there's so much content I wish were included (Tramplin' Stu and the human girl look interesting and I want to know what role they had in the story).
I thought you covered all this before?
When did I ever do Mario Sunshine? It's the first video yet
3:22 he looks so happy
Afterall he's taking a chill stroll :P
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Hey, can you still activate the 100 coin shines (if you can get 100 coins) without modding the shine in? (Short version: is the code actually unused, or still technically used in the code?)
Yes, as long as you somehow can get 100 coins in those levels, you can get the shine that is programmed in already
We need to glitch, or make a mod to include more shines in the game
@@TheObsessiveGamer Im pretty sure you can enter all of those areas with 99 coins and just grab one coin within the level. As long as there is 1 yellow coin, it's possible, right?
@@clydesapere1977 The ones I mentioned are actually impossible cause the level you gotta enter them in either doesn't have enough coins to make it possible or the secret levels lack coins all together.
@@TheObsessiveGamer Oh I see. Thanks!
That early Bianco Hill model isn't this Spaceworld 2001 version, it's the February 2002 version.
It's the one from the 2001 trailer. I literally compared it
I have an unused model data named [btelesa_ball] in the file of the King Boo fight.
The texture of that model looks similar to the Solcoin design.
Maybe it's the same texture... sorry if I'm wrong lol
I'm a big fan of Sunshine and I totally prefer the beta Delfino Plaza
2:25 looks like Delfino Square
love the vids. Just cringing at your pronounciation of 'Pianta' and wondering why you didn't mention how colorful the goop was in the beta delphino plaza. It's never shown clearly, but a couple pics show what can't be anything else. Relating to the non-electric electric goop, it could be that they just naturally had much more colorful goop at that phase, and they recycled the colors for the electrogoop
How is Pianta supposed to be pronounced then???
Anyways yeah a missed detail. I'll mention it in a future video of Sunshine. Can easily fit into another topic too.
@@TheObsessiveGamer fair enough. think it's supposed to be pronounced 'pee-ahn-tah' at least that's how this one's always pronounced it and heard it pronounced. If it's never said in an official source though, and if they're called something wildly different in japanese(Eg, Nokonoko vs Koopa), then your pronunciation's as valid as anyone else's.
A quick tip that helps this one a lot; if there's a japanese version of the game, look up the katakana/hiragana of the name(especially the Katakana, since they're used for loan words). Japanese uses a phonetic syllibary, so every katakana and hiragana always makes the same sound.
Minor nitpicks aside, keep up the good work, your vids are great
@@deathstinger13 duly noted. Thanks man!
@@TheObsessiveGamer Not a man, but know you didn't mean it that way :P And no problem. Good luck and take care, you're doing a great service to us all
@@deathstinger13 Thanks and yeah I usually just saw "man" like that in the most gender neutral way haha
Now i wish there was a beta chuckster😆
Beta chuckster who has an even more terrible throw :P
Y love mario sunhine, in my opinion is the most unique mario game
We need more unique ones like it again
HOPE YOU UPLOAD MORE BETA/CUT CONTENT ON OTHER VIDEO GAMES 🥰🥰🥰😍😍🤩🤩😘
Got many planned. A DK64 one for example :)
what this game could have been if it didnt had to be rush...
Are you gona do some more on twilight Princess ? My favourite zelda game 😊
Yep I plan to! Currently doing Wind Waker, but Twilight Princess will follow once that one is done
Eclipse team dev here. Goop map at 4:40 is the E3 not spaceworld bianco and your comparison is actueally way off. We have a beta restoration of all 3 beta versions of bianco in the works.
Hey thanks for coming! Oh interesting. My source had it listed as Spaceworld, so I took that at what it was. Sorry about that! Also may I know what is off?
I'd also be interested in covering via the beta restorations you guys have in the work later.
@TheObsessiveGamer what's off is that the photo of the height map is a height map of bianco during the E3 phase of development and the footage your looking at is bianco during spaceworld. They have entirely different stage geometry just wrong entirely 😢 er well technically the height map is from a pre E3 build of the game now that I think about it but don't need to get I to the weeds 😅
But then why it match up so well with what I showed there? I'm confused.
@TheObsessiveGamer ever noticed that some landmarks remain consistent across all versions of the stage? There's always a big windmill for example. Nintendo just had a design document or a rough plan of objects to have in the map and they shifted them arround over time. The same landmarks exist (like a really big windmill) but the level design changed as time goes on. In youtube search bianco hills beta recreation. 10k view video by eclipse team is the version that goop map goes to.
@@epicwade6346 interesting. I have wanted to make a video better covering Bianco so maybe this can be an opportunity to course correct. Thanks for all this :)
Edit* emphasis on success in this context is overstated considering how little you would get from UA-cam with viewership less than 50,000 views.
How much of your UA-cam channel success Would you have to thank for the giga leak? Does anyone remember the dude's name who did that leak? He got sued in 2018 for way too much money, his sacrifice brought great success to many.
In conclusion would you consider a video on the entire giga leak as a whole and what the individual who did the leak went through before and after.
Well the Gigaleak was indeed what blew this channel up. I was making Cut Content videos prior, but as soon as the Luigi leak happened, I finally was grow substantially. Ever since it's been me just feeding the channel with more cut content and other gaming related materials. Also Gigaleak was 2020. The 2018 one was a Pokemon leak I believe.
Anyways, I might eventually do a little history of the gigaleak one day.
@@TheObsessiveGamer My mistake, I googled it and I might have got my years crossed lol
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GameCube games are really just that unfinished and have a lot of early content in their files, a great example is Luigi's Mansion
Indeed. The Wind Waker is another with 2 dungeons even being cut from it
the hidden book was an easter egg. paper mario: the thousand year door.
Interesting. Though I believe TTYD released after this game?
“Payanta”
It’s Italian. “Pee-ahn-tuh”. The I is like the I in “Bianco Hills,” i.e. not “Bayanco.”
didnt beta 64 did this years ago?
No or rather nothing like this.
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Tough time living up to is predecessor? It was literally better in every way. Idk why _some_ people didnt like it xD too much of a challenge I guess for them kekw
8:32 *shudders* Never liked that boss...
First time around it really freaked me out as a kid. Just the idea of being eaten for trying to brush its teeth was very scary
@@TheObsessiveGamer It took me until my university years to work up the courage to get the star "Can the Eel Come Out to Play?" in SM64 because I found Unagi to be that terrifying. I thought Unagi would try to eat Mario whole much like Bubba can, so the fact that Eely-Mouth can briefly swallow Mario doesn't help. Neither, for that matter, does certain unused modelling... but I'm sure that's for a future video.
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Pokemon Gen 10 name region Confirmed not yet still waiting development Pokemon title rumour 2026 years?
Least obvious bot comment of all time
Why even bother?
Why not?