WORKING WITH RARE AND DIFFICULT BREED, THE PEPPER SALT GIANT SCHNAUZER

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  • @Croft-do5io
    @Croft-do5io 3 місяці тому +26

    I loved how honest this guy was. And that he didnt quit despite having a dog that did not make his life easy. I have a little schnauzer mix and I don't do any training with her but she's my constant companion, super smart and the love of my life. This video reminded me that I could definitely get more into the breed. It's really interesting to see folks doing quirky things with non obvious dog choices and as always, beautifully filmed. Thank you!

  • @TedErickson-c3x
    @TedErickson-c3x 3 місяці тому +19

    I met this guy. He’s worked my dog. He’s a really great dude and skilled trainer. It’s amazing to see him on UA-cam! I hope he does well with his dog

  • @nic_niko1003
    @nic_niko1003 3 місяці тому +16

    I love schnauzers. The only breed I've had the pleasure to have in my life. They are very smart and independent.

    • @joiesamaniego3056
      @joiesamaniego3056 3 місяці тому +1

      Glad yours is jndependent. Ours would want cuddles everytime he hears unfamiliar noise 😂😅

  • @samburton2978
    @samburton2978 3 місяці тому +11

    What an honest interview! I loved this episode!

  • @guyhorowitz158
    @guyhorowitz158 3 місяці тому +8

    Gary is a true gentleman, and pro at what he does!

  • @bq4453
    @bq4453 3 місяці тому +18

    I have the black line. She is the smartest dog I ever worked with. And the confidence level is amazing!

  • @davidbmullis
    @davidbmullis 24 дні тому

    Giants are amazing! Certainly not for everyone, but their stubbornness is one of their immense strengths. I love mine to death and he goes everywhere with me! He's big, bites, doesn't shed, and is my glucose detection dog. Great video!

  • @JTapia-do9qt
    @JTapia-do9qt 3 місяці тому +5

    I really liked this interview. The guy seems very passionate and i can appreciate that. Its really cool to see a pepper salt working in igp. I hope he succeeds. He will definitely be a legend as a trainer.

  • @ameliaandes797
    @ameliaandes797 3 місяці тому +5

    I like this interview because Gary explained the personality of the Giant salt and pepper which isn't commonly told on other videos.

    • @belindavandermerwe8384
      @belindavandermerwe8384 21 день тому

      Gaint Schnauzers are called Pepper & Salt and minuture Schnauzers are called Salt & Pepper.

  • @mmurmurjohnson2368
    @mmurmurjohnson2368 3 місяці тому +7

    So Standard Schnauzers used to follow butchers carts to market for long distances protecting both the farmer and his goods, often had to find their own food once they arrived to market, and then journey back home again, thus the independent streek in the breed. Standard and Giant Schnauzers are with you because they want to be not because they need to be, and owners should really understand this about this breed first before owning or training them. They really do think alot more like human beings than dogs. Great breed!

    • @carolandmarkc9287
      @carolandmarkc9287 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes, I'm on my 3rd Standard. They love a job to do. They are also working dogs. Right now my puppy will carry the mail, and bring in small packages and help bring in groceries.

    • @ryanalbert6945
      @ryanalbert6945 2 місяці тому

      @@carolandmarkc9287 giants only want jobs they are in the “mood” for, lol

  • @majesticgiantschnauzers3941
    @majesticgiantschnauzers3941 3 місяці тому +4

    MY GUY THIS VIDEO IS AMAZING..HATS OFF GARY

  • @devanteofficial
    @devanteofficial 3 місяці тому +1

    This dog trainer is really good, I hired him a few years back, he’s probably one of the better decoys in the area. He really knows how to read the dogs body language.

  • @nataliamargulis6649
    @nataliamargulis6649 5 днів тому

    have a black GS female. She is my first GS dog and first working dog breed I've ever owned, and it hit me like a ton of bricks. Her intelligence is off the charts and so is the stubbornness and the dominance. Now she listens well and we have an understanding but the first year and a half was rough haha. I had to go to school to learn how to handle her. Someone on another video thread called them 'gentle giants' and I disagree. Nothing gentle about em, but they are so loyal and goofy, and sweet with the family. Amazing, task driven dogs, pretty mouthy, and great noses like the guy said.

  • @jono.3882
    @jono.3882 3 місяці тому +3

    I commend this guy for taking a show line dog and making it an igp dog. That pretty sick. Dude must be dedicated!

  • @carolandmarkc9287
    @carolandmarkc9287 2 місяці тому

    Gorgeous dog. We have 1 year old Standard Schnauzer, pepper and salt. They're also super smart. I'd love to have a GS P&S someday. I look forward to seeing Otis' progress.

    • @ryanalbert6945
      @ryanalbert6945 2 місяці тому +1

      I have p/s & black giants, a black standard, and two mini p/s. They are such different breeds with different temperments and needs

  • @rickyclark4870
    @rickyclark4870 3 місяці тому

    You are an extraordinary person you love dog's and you found your own way to use your passion to help fund your life and household...
    Which is what a lot of us here in the USA are going to have to do, I myself also want to go in to that very same direction.... , Dog's are amazing and have always been man's best friend.
    Just imagine starting with a brand new puppy!!
    I love giant schnauzers, They are so distinguished looking, Perfect little Scottish gentlemen.

  • @kathycoleman3150
    @kathycoleman3150 3 місяці тому

    When we first tried training a GS, we were told they were hard to train, however, they always finished our obedience training classes in first place. They are wicked smart!

  • @bigrudd9346
    @bigrudd9346 3 місяці тому +4

    Very true. Definitely a stubborn breed by nature and extremely strong.

  • @taniabn
    @taniabn 25 днів тому

    I have a 5 month old black giant schnauzer, but he is a "mix", his father is salt and pepper and his mother is black. He is a fast learner, but he is definitely not the eager to please type. He will do anything for food and he has been my shadow since day one and it has been an amazing journey training him so far. But oh, do I fear his rapidly approaching "teenage" phase...

  • @seancasey6984
    @seancasey6984 3 місяці тому +2

    I have a giant schnauzer that’s also 18 months and he’s my first dog… the first year I felt like I was ripping my hair out 24/7. I’ve never been so chronically frustrated in my life… but he’s a cutie and I love him😂

  • @roniallen8924
    @roniallen8924 2 місяці тому

    We have had two minis,they are the best, easy to train constant companion. Very loyal

  • @Kylemore73
    @Kylemore73 Місяць тому

    This Giant Schnauzer is so beautiful dog.

  • @krislee4127
    @krislee4127 3 місяці тому +1

    I do jiujitsu with my giant schnauzer great sparring partner..and every time im home hes tryna get into my gi bag to get my gloves out so we can spar hes funny😂

  • @narwhal7642
    @narwhal7642 2 місяці тому

    This guy is excellent and honest. I know several other people with salt peppers who had very difficult time. I lived in Germany and know how many black G S are constantly used as police and service dogs and are great.

  • @leonwilliams9129
    @leonwilliams9129 3 місяці тому +1

    Damn I had one as well he didn’t never lie and I will never get another one and I love this video and I wish he could do them on other breeds I have Corso’s now

  • @urfavoritebarber2573
    @urfavoritebarber2573 3 місяці тому +2

    I’m a boxer owner and I would like to see someone explain the difference between the German boxers and the American boxers because I believe the German boxer breed is a very underrated working breed and not just a hyper playful breed

  • @MrRiceak
    @MrRiceak 2 місяці тому

    I was looking for a Salt and Pepper Giant not too long ago. They are just so difficult to find, if you are not actively competing in the Show Ring. I wanted my Giant for Companionship and Home and Family Protection. I agree with you, they are very smart and you have to pull out all the stops to keep them interested and engaged. Luckily mine is very food motivated, for a treat, he will even stop chasing a cat and return to me!

    • @ryanalbert6945
      @ryanalbert6945 2 місяці тому

      The black one’s coats are so much easier to take care of, like night and day.

  • @OnkyoGrady
    @OnkyoGrady 3 місяці тому +2

    I've had 5 GS' all in (family as well as mine), and they were all stubborn, but they weren't difficult in the way you are describing. Every one of them had a strong independent streak, things like wanting to sit endlessly by themselves on the deck to survey the kingdom, or just watching with crossed legs while other dogs were being high energy. There was always some quirk similar to that for each dog, but they were all A+ responsive overall. Two of them truly struggled to have a friends and family list that went beyond 8 or so people (any other type of animal was explicitly fine, max tolerance), so I warn everyone thinking they are cute that they are not necessarily. 2 out of 5 is a hell of a ratio lol, and in my view definitely indicates that the initial purpose is still expressing in their genes. I have never met a GS on leash being casually handled either.

  • @sandromeyer6612
    @sandromeyer6612 Місяць тому

    Break and play is a good way to go, aswell "mouthfeeding" as a puppy

  • @jinglejoys
    @jinglejoys 3 місяці тому +9

    So…bit like training a mule then 😏😉🤷🏼‍♀️ ( I’m on my 5th giant…four of them S&P and 6th mule 😂😂😂)

    • @kathleenredick275
      @kathleenredick275 3 місяці тому +4

      I get the mule part. I've had horses my whole life, but never had a mule. I was told you had to be smarter than the mule, and wasn't sure I qualified. 😂😂😂

    • @ryanalbert6945
      @ryanalbert6945 2 місяці тому +1

      @@kathleenredick275 my p/s giant is EXACTLY like a mule, but the sweetest boy in the world.

  • @sandromeyer6612
    @sandromeyer6612 Місяць тому

    I got a breed from germany, well i am a german but it dosnt matter. Great dogs but you got to spare at least 3 years with a Teenager attitude. But as soon you passed the 3 year mark your dog should be well trained, they love to work ❤

  • @farmerastronaut9804
    @farmerastronaut9804 3 місяці тому +2

    Giant Schnauzers for you lol. Ours loves us but can act like he has no respect and no loyalty. So so glad we got him trained early. Even though we did, he will still challenge us.

    • @jonathanpark7658
      @jonathanpark7658 3 місяці тому +1

      Did you spend time hand feeding and bonding at an early age?

    • @farmerastronaut9804
      @farmerastronaut9804 3 місяці тому +3

      @@jonathanpark7658Yes. It's just his temperament. The challenging us basically goes away with enough exercise and structure.

    • @jonathanpark7658
      @jonathanpark7658 3 місяці тому

      @@farmerastronaut9804 consistency in leadership, gentle but firm, Slow and steady.
      I know my giant 'play/pretends to be dominant' if I say no or seem upset he goes into a downward dog and will sneeze and do other things to let me know he's just playing. He also play growls a lot, he will do the same downward dog if I seem upset.
      I spent a significant amount of time working with him as a puppy, treats, petting laying on the floor near him. Hand feeding every meal and treats for a year. Just doing fun things with him.
      He will now jump on the couch, backwards trust fall into my lap and make growling noises while I rub his belly. He is extremely handler sensitive and pays attention to me and is great with my family.
      The only negative issues we had was around food in the beginning. Anytime another dog or someone not me walked near him he would growl (never tried to bite). I fixed this by giving treats every time someone or another dog came near him while eating. I would call him and make a big deal out of giving a reward when others walked near him while eating. Now anyone can pickup his food bowl when he's mid meal and he just sit down and waits for his food or a treat.

    • @ryanalbert6945
      @ryanalbert6945 2 місяці тому

      @@jonathanpark7658 it’s not like that with giants. They are much smarter than that. They want strong leadership, and if they don’t have it, they decide to take leadership into their own hands. You have to set the tone early, but continue to keep that tone as the dog grows and changes.

    • @jonathanpark7658
      @jonathanpark7658 2 місяці тому

      @@ryanalbert6945 what does that have to do with bonding and hand feeding as a puppy?
      Being a leader is important, but so is bonding and creating trust and fairness. Strength without trust and consistency is a recipe for disaster.

  • @fritzrodriguez770
    @fritzrodriguez770 Місяць тому

    👍👍

  • @capac2
    @capac2 3 місяці тому +3

    Very cool didn’t know much about this breed

    • @jonathanpark7658
      @jonathanpark7658 3 місяці тому

      The black ones are different if his description is accurate.

  • @GiovanniPiccolo64
    @GiovanniPiccolo64 16 годин тому

    They do shed, not as much as a German Shepherd, but they do shed.

  • @rottenwings
    @rottenwings 3 місяці тому +1

    Points for honesty, I have a bandog whos smart too. Nothing of that level, but enough to Make IT hard 😂

  • @nicholasgonzalez9200
    @nicholasgonzalez9200 3 місяці тому +1

    Awesome to see you're working with a non traditional breed for shows. Would you recommend a giant shnauzer to someone whos looking to train that breed for the first time? I've always owned shepards and labs

  • @ricardoeliottromogarcia7645
    @ricardoeliottromogarcia7645 3 місяці тому +3

    Startup is a Hard stage and because it is from a showline the Dog it is predespose for another kind of activity due the genetics so startup with this handycap is Hard at the begening see this like a long therm challenge in 3 or 4 years
    You will see a real progress I have the same problems with my beagle she is from showline and when I change the activity to it was Hard at the begening but with the time she became one of the Best tracking and huting Dog in the field and she also learn to retrieve, retrieve it is not common hability for a showline beagle 😅.

  • @sandromeyer6612
    @sandromeyer6612 Місяць тому

    Keep in mind they are stubborn af . But the efford you are putting in that breed are worth every Minute you spended with training

  • @laus7504
    @laus7504 3 місяці тому +3

    What is IGP?
    Or what does it stand for so I can look it up online?

    • @butkusfan23
      @butkusfan23 3 місяці тому

      Just look up "IGP dog sport training." It used to be known as "schutzhund." Best of luck.

    • @mariewagner5283
      @mariewagner5283 3 місяці тому +1

      On second thought, the I could be for investigation.

  • @zeusricochant7357
    @zeusricochant7357 3 місяці тому +4

    Sounds like an Akita

    • @jonathanpark7658
      @jonathanpark7658 3 місяці тому

      Early socialization and trust building is key

    • @zeusricochant7357
      @zeusricochant7357 3 місяці тому +1

      @@jonathanpark7658 for sure bro. Big breeds are different

    • @jonathanpark7658
      @jonathanpark7658 3 місяці тому

      @@zeusricochant7357 The consequences for making a mistake are proportional to the size of the dog.

  • @elizabethlongman4399
    @elizabethlongman4399 3 місяці тому +2

    Hmm he needed to deal with someone experienced in giant schnauzer training. They do handle very differently than shepherds

  • @thomasalexander2536
    @thomasalexander2536 2 місяці тому

    Is it true the PS Giants are a little more laid back than the black GS?

    • @ryanalbert6945
      @ryanalbert6945 2 місяці тому +2

      No. They are far more emotional, and wear it on their sleeve.

    • @carolandmarkc9287
      @carolandmarkc9287 Місяць тому

      @@ryanalbert6945 my P&S Standard’s show handler raises show line black Giants and she says the P&S are exactly as you describe. Small gene pool, so they’re hard to find quality ones. She’s planning on importing a P&S Giant to start a show line of those. I’d love a P&S Giant but they are a lot of real estate to groom. They get hand stripped like my Standard.

  • @nosaj666
    @nosaj666 3 місяці тому +3

    "dog hair is not for me" - dog trainer. Don't here that too often.

    • @michellegriffith3784
      @michellegriffith3784 3 місяці тому +3

      They do shed (I have a Standard and Giant). They are hypoallergenic in that they don't have skin dander. If you let them grow out, as in the winter in a cold climate, you will see the hair. They are double coated, so it floats and sticks into fluffs. It is not like a Shepherd or Labrador, thank goodness (I'm not a fan of shedding hair either)! If you hand strip (lots of work or expensive with a groomer) or clip short, you won't notice much in the way of hair. Hope this helps!

    • @OfficialSnowmanjetski
      @OfficialSnowmanjetski 3 місяці тому

      Guy in the video is full of himself

    • @JTapia-do9qt
      @JTapia-do9qt 3 місяці тому

      ​@DwightHardnett how did you get that from the video? He seems pretty happy and easy going?

  • @cammiekitchens5509
    @cammiekitchens5509 3 місяці тому +3

    Great video Sir. ! I love the Working lines. I have Black Working lines from 🇷🇺 Russia. Looking forward to more Hard pepper salt Working lines.. All The Best in your Quest for the BEST !

  • @ryanalbert6945
    @ryanalbert6945 2 місяці тому

    Pepper/salts coat matt much more than the black Giant schnauzers, which makes it a tough sell as a working line. The upkeep of the coat would be really time consuming, which is opposite of what you need on a farm or ranch. Hence, this is why he is the only one with this goal.

    • @K9OPRTV
      @K9OPRTV Місяць тому +1

      The pepper salt dod has a hard wire coat. It doesn't matt very easily. You must have seen dogs with the incorrect coat.

    • @ryanalbert6945
      @ryanalbert6945 Місяць тому

      @@K9OPRTV yes, a hard wire coat, over a soft undercoat. The matting happens in the armpits and sometimes arms. It’s been the same with every Giant pepper/salt I have came across, and often the mini’s as well.

    • @K9OPRTV
      @K9OPRTV Місяць тому

      @@ryanalbert6945 haven't had that problem at all. I actually prefer this hard coat to my working line soft coat.

    • @ryanalbert6945
      @ryanalbert6945 Місяць тому

      @@K9OPRTV ofcourse, you keep the coat short.

    • @K9OPRTV
      @K9OPRTV Місяць тому

      @ryanalbert6945 both my dogs coats are long right now. Only keep short in summer

  • @rigobertomedina910
    @rigobertomedina910 3 місяці тому +2

    So... are you happy with your dog? 😅

  • @melissameadows4503
    @melissameadows4503 3 місяці тому +1

    could you please do the Sussex Spaniel at some point? they are an rare and endangered breed and need more exposure to the public.

  • @WendyLee-d1n
    @WendyLee-d1n 3 місяці тому

    My dog is the same way know what you mean lol

  • @Chris_and_Mishka
    @Chris_and_Mishka 3 місяці тому

    I have a central Asian shepherd I know what you mean about being outsmarted during training

  • @h.nguyen4193
    @h.nguyen4193 3 місяці тому

    I have a scotty and i watch video's of trainers with lab and working dogs. There's no way my scottie would listen to these trainers. all of the dogs they train are dogs that want to please their owners. a true test of a good trainer is if he/she can train a dog like a scottie to do what you want. it's nearly impossible if you have a 9-5 job.

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 3 місяці тому

    Years ago, I wanted a giant schnauzer but judging but I heard yeah they’re at a independent working dog and I wanted a black one, but I am not a fan of the wire hair because it’s a pain in the ass to do

    • @michellegriffith3784
      @michellegriffith3784 3 місяці тому +2

      I LOVE my Giant!! He is smart, has a ton of drive to work (he is a German import with strong working lines), and for me, is handler sensitive and compliant (wanting to do the right thing). My guy is independent, but also loves to be with me, and we have pretty nice engagement. He has great aggression and prey drives in the IGP (Schutzhund) work on the field, and is wonderful in the home and turns off nicely! He is actually somewhat soft (especially when clean). The Giants can have thinner nerves, and do tend to naturally work in aggression. So we're worked in our training to teach him drive channeling. I have excellent trainers and coaches, and have worked with him since he was a puppy, to be sound environmentally by taking him everywhere with me. It varies by dog, but my guy is not coarse and hard/wirey in his coat (in comparison to a Rottweiler for example). Hope this helps!

  • @bigriver1849
    @bigriver1849 3 місяці тому

    black, salt and pepper theas are colloures

    • @jonathanpark7658
      @jonathanpark7658 3 місяці тому

      Breeders are not crossing them. Meaning genetically they will eventually turn into sperate breeds if they haven't already.
      This has apparently been going on for some time now.

    • @jonathanpark7658
      @jonathanpark7658 3 місяці тому

      I believe there is actual genetic research on the topic.

    • @bigriver1849
      @bigriver1849 3 місяці тому

      Well okay then. Thanks

  • @GrowKing510
    @GrowKing510 2 місяці тому

    Don’t try to turn show line Bred dogs for sport. Not saying it’s not possible but you’ll save yourself tons of stress

  • @morganwestbrook8663
    @morganwestbrook8663 3 місяці тому

    Really want to see a Iiving with a German Pinscher video!!

  • @curiousgeorge6921
    @curiousgeorge6921 3 місяці тому +1

    Bro you are doing the same breeds over and over

  • @C-24-Brandan
    @C-24-Brandan 3 місяці тому

    Makes zero sense to get a show line dog to do protection and sport work expecting it to be easy or work

  • @dawnrexrode7967
    @dawnrexrode7967 Місяць тому

    What is "rare" about this dog? The breed? Absolutely not a rare breed. "Pepper salt"? Nope! Salt and pepper simply refers to coat color. "Difficult"? Any dog categorized as a working breed per the breed standard can be called "difficult" without proper training and socialization. I've been showing, training, trialing and titling "difficult" working breeds since the late 1980's, including IPO titles.

  • @leonelmateus
    @leonelmateus 2 місяці тому

    maybe just maybe, your not the smartest guy... just sayin.. realm of possibility don't get offended.

  • @truth528
    @truth528 3 місяці тому

    Maybe there’s a reason you don’t see salt and pepper schnauzers in guard work training? Maybe it’s the same reason you don’t see Bassett hounds on the race track. They’re not meant for that. Go get a black giant schnauzer and start over. They are incredibly stubborn dogs. But very loving and loyal.

    • @mmurmurjohnson2368
      @mmurmurjohnson2368 3 місяці тому +2

      You don't really have to train Giant or Standard Schnauzers to actually protect you, it's in-built and they're legendary at it. Now making a game out of protection is the issue, and some may or may not enjoy that. Plus pepper salt Giants are rare is probably the main reason for not seeing employed more, not lack of ability.

  • @nicole9241
    @nicole9241 3 місяці тому +6

    All I hear is negativity about the breed. Horrible video.

    • @rugbystories3344
      @rugbystories3344 3 місяці тому +1

      He is preparing to work a show dog obviously it's going to be diffcult

    • @veroinblack4035
      @veroinblack4035 3 місяці тому +19

      Doesn't sound like negativity, more like he is explaining the challenges he is facing by working with this breed of dog. It's not a reflection on the breed as a whole but rather on the difficulty of moving from show to work. 😊

    • @butkusfan23
      @butkusfan23 3 місяці тому +4

      Do you say the same when people talk about how their Malinois chew and bark and jump fences and nip your ankles and destroy things? Or do you just understand and accept that they are letting you know what type of challenges you can expect?

    • @rugbystories3344
      @rugbystories3344 3 місяці тому

      @@butkusfan23 I see am not the only one who got triggered by this guy 🤣🤣

    • @veroinblack4035
      @veroinblack4035 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@butkusfan23 One has to consider context. From what I gather in this context, he explains that he wanted a challenge. He mentions they have some of the same positive traits as GSD as well as Malinois, and also states what they are typically used for (tracking, nose work, show). He makes it clear he is facing challenges by going from one arena to another (Show to work) and then lists his own personal difficulties. He is not just sitting there bashing an entire breed of dog. He makes it clear he knew what he was getting into. If someone were to come and give me all that info about the other breeds you mentioned, I would still consider the context. Are they sitting there just complaining or are they telling me about the difficulties they have faced in an informative way in relation to an inquiry on drawbacks of owning a specific breed vs the pros? What I got from this segment wasn't that this guys was supposed to convey pros and cons but rather what his experience has been in dealing with what is not typically considered a working dog.