Julian Sands was an amazing actor and I was thrilled to see him in Stargate. The recent recovery of his body after five months of being missing is a bittersweet conclusion to his life. He died doing what he loved and will be remembered for his many artistic works.
Agreed 100%! I just heard with sadness about his death. His role as Doci in SG-1 was so impactful for me that anytime I've seen him in any other show since I think to myself "Hallowed Are The Ori!" ;-)
I had no idea. I just came here to relive one of my favorite scenes in SG1. Such an incredible show and I loved Julian Sands' work in the Ori story arc (as well as just in general, as you say, he was an amazing actor). I had no idea he had passed away... Damn.
I know lot of people dislike Ori but to me they were far more interesting villain than Goa'uld had been for many seasons. Goa'uld kind of lost their menace when SGC started to eliminate system lords faster that pest control company does cockroaches. I just wish there would had been more seasons to flesh out Ori arch more.
Yep, they had to keep bringing in more and more powerful villains to keep the show more interesting. As an example Goa'uld-Anubis-Replicators-Ori. I mean after the independance of the Jaffa the Goa'Uld was basically powerless just like it was said in the early seasons.
The Ori are very much what the Gou'auld sold themselves as. Gods with a loyal flock posessing technology unmatched. So, yes they are very interesting in concept, but hteir one note droning just felt.... Mehh. Would've been nice had they saved Sokar, or a few of the other Ascended like Anubis as thignsthat would be black hearted evil, but willing to become allies for the sake of knowing prescicely how terrifying the Ori are. or just hte Ori rolling through, Anubis shitting himself in terror, and then being un-existed.
I wish they did more effort at the Free Jaffa Nation and Ori interaction... I mean there was a huge potential to get new, interesting stories, even involving Goa'uld. Those Ori could turn some lower Goa'uld lords into priors and thus creating a huge tension in the Jaffa Nation - part of them would probably see the new lords as the true gods while the other remained skeptical. You know, there is difference between the very advanced technology and the Ori who were really ascended beings, willing to use their power and persuading people its magic, despite a lot of them would be from technologically advanced civilizations.
The Ori arc was supposed to be longer. SCI-FI and MGM cancelled the show. The "Ark of Truth" movie was to show how the Ori arc was to ultimately finish, with the defeat of Adria.
I find them the opposite. Mostly because the religious plot lines had been done to death with Goa’ulds. Just because they have the power to back it up doesn’t make it any better.
I sincerely appreciate that Daniel attempted to reason with opponent's or outright villains in SG-1. It contributed depth and validity which was important In order to balance the more pulpy aspects. It's a sign of quality the franchise could both have depth and levity.
The guy had been through a lot and realized that brute force isn't usually the best option. At least not the first option. Try diplomacy first, if that fails then it might be necessary. I also think he understands the danger of exactly where he is. He strongly suspects the Ori are ascended beings and he knows very well what those can do. He is treading carefully to avoid pissing them off on first contact. Sadly it isn't enough, it rarely is with fanatics
Given Daniel had Ascended (with help,) and had experianced a wide variety of flife? Going in spouting machismo was never his thing anyway. He wantedto learn and understand, and learning can't really happen with someone shouting for everyone to Kneel.
@@farscape1714yeah because Morgan decided to step in lol, tbh the whole war is his fault since the ORI weren’t even aware of the Milky Way before they bumped into Daniel
@@Not-Ap New testament is the same as well, but much more subtle about it. Though I doubt anyone is wrong or right in an ever ending multiversal scale, who's to say who is and who isn't with an infinite amount of parallels between earths.
And finally, after all the disagreements with and resentment of the ancient's strict no-interference policy, Daniel starts to understand why they had those rules in place and punished those who broke them so harshly
@@tunaqua I don't think so. I believe that religions were made to make people happier in brutal times. I mean it's easy for us to be atheists since we can plan what we should have for dinner the next 3 weeks. But in brutal times without medicine and so on we would probably rather kill ourselves and religion has in some way led us to where we are today
He had only 5 or 6 scenes in the show alltogether, but he gave quite a menacing performance - quickly assuring the viewer the new villains mean business.
I've always found the look of the priors, including the Doci, very literal. When a person is "blessed by the Ori" and therefore transformed into a prior, their eyes become pale and hollow. They become blind (to the truth and to reason). Interestingly, the eyes of the Orici are not hollow and pale; she knows exactly what's going on.
The non-interference rules of the ancients can be frustrating. And their inaction with Anubis could have wiped out the galaxy. The Ori are the reason those rules exist. The hard lesson they learned. "Good men don't need rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many!" - Dr. Who.
Think of God or the prime directive. You have the power to change anything but is it in your place to do so? Assuming God exists then he acted directly on Earth and still his own people rebelled. Now he does not. Something to think about.
Daniel was one of maybe a bare handful of unascended beings in the milky way that understood. Ironically Anubis wouldh ave been another. And both would have seen the exact threat and terror that is the Ori.
I always enjoyed the Ori as enemies, it would have been nice to see them for a bit longer. The opening episodes to this arc was perfection to me. Remotely connected to people in another galaxy, the Ori literally peering into Daniel's mind to know his name and where he is from and the innocent exploration leading to a full blown invasion on a galactic scale.
Actually the Ori were supposed to be villains for season 11 and probably 12. Since they never happened, that's why they filmed "The Ark of Truth" to finish the story arc and give fans closure.
I just finished rewatching this episode. So in the ending when Daniel's and Vala's conscience is back in their own bodies, does that mean the bodies they took over actually got burnt? :(
Daniel kind of screwed the pooch on this one. He said "the ascended beings that I know..." Finally, the Ori found where the Alterans/Ancients went, and what became of them. It's likely the Ori thought their virus killed them all. It's also likely the Ori had no idea the Alterans LEFT Milky Way after being discovered, and deliberately went to Pegasus in order to hide again AND escape the virus --- leaving behind those who were infected like "Amazing" Girl. It's possible that NONE of the Ancients prior to Atlantis ascended, and only AFTER they discovered the "ascended" black energy mass/entity, that they themselves learned HOW to ascend. It's possible the Ori religion allowed the Ori to ascend long before the Alterans from the power gained from their followers. Merlin knew of Oma, whereas Orlin didn't. So Daniel may have revealed that the Alterans were not wiped out, and were now ascended beings in the Milky Way Galaxy.
Well Ori could probably read that from his mind anyway, remember Orlin have read mind of prior Demeterus without problems when he entered Milky Way, probably same applies for Ori and Ori galaxy.
@@Tap-a-roo Oh right, transport stones, forgot about those, still, they knew his name and planet, so they could read his transferred mind at least to some degree (or did he told it to someone in Ori galaxy? Not sure, its been years since I have seen it).
I love how the ori are the other side of the coin when it comes to God or at least religion. One side chooses not to interfere and rule while the other become beings of worship acting upon the lower planes.
I wish the ori story had continued. It would have been interesting to see what aould have happened if the priors had actually arrived on earth and tried to spread origin.
Not Catholics or even Christians specifically, but Fanaticism in general. Running up yet another religion isnt where the show needed to go, it needed to show the dark side of faith and what it can do. There is nothing wrong with faith, Oma taught faith but faith counterbalanced with understanding, acceptance and letting go of ones Ego. One of the SGU episodes , Rodney was going to ascend and was puzzled by the idea of "Gaining control by letting go of control." Which seemed contradictory. It was about letting go of Ego and surrendering yourself to something greater, which itself is a form of faith.
@@KLamki1 because most Christians live in countries that don’t allow that kind of behavior anymore. If they were allowed to do so, they would. If you don’t believe me just look at the history of Christianity prior to the 19th century.
@@BlackDiamond2718 The Stargates were not invented in the Ori galaxy. So there wouldn't be anything to power. We also saw no evidences of gates before, so it is likely that the concept of the gates was taken from Daniel and Vala during their stay there, and they built a gate to send Priors and later the Supergate segments.
This frankly was the logical escilation of things. The Gou'uld were beings that pretended to be this. Anubis was this but shackled and chained and only one eing. This? This was the conclusion. Fighting against beings that transcended our understanding that demanded the whole of creation bow or be burned away.
Isnt this a bit like now, people do what something supposedly higher tells them from being dazzled with fireworks and becoming tangled up in it while others that question are cast out (this is happening now, in this reality)
They have the power to levitate objects, transfer infinity knowledge to humans, cure illnesses, bring back the dead, kill at will, pass through fire without being harmed, power up interstelar ships, become inmortals in the form of energy entities, be born from a woman just like Jesus Christ, etc, etc, etc.
Comparing the followers of origin to real world religious groups is folly. Yes we can compare religious texts but the difference is what creates a very different situation for belief. The ori were real. They showed their power, the followers of origin had proof from their "gods" of their existence and creation. Very different from every religion today. You don't have any gods coming down and showing you their existence and power.
Not to mention their followers are from preindustrial 3rd world civilizations who are at mercy of everything else and now are given advanced tech that can make their lives better. But then comes the nosy first world humans with their ideals of freewill and their question authority attitude.
Well its not realy acurate. Only Daniel has seen they True power and Priors have given limited power, but random follower dosent know nothing. So if we try to compere it with earth religions Cristianity especially, so It is possible that some selected few have seen True power and humans we know as Saints might have some limited power. Well common people dont know truth. Logically we cant say God dont excist couse we havent seen it. Another topic is Is God as we perchive it or is ist something else some other agenda. Are its creation, created for sole purpose for worship or are we development of nature who is subjected to Doctrine, we dont know truth, but i think we all should aim to find truth, couse truth will set us free or atlest following generations of us.
In the catholic church, we describe God as 'The one that is his one dertermination principle' Meaning that God is only dertermined by himself. In other words, he act on the universe, but the universe doesn't act on him. By this definition, the oris are clearly not gods. They are powerful, yes, but the universe still act on them. One example is that they take their power from worship from lesser beings. But the power of God is not dertermined by his worshipers.
Catholic church, sure. But let's be honest, there isn't just catholic religion out there, is it? There are many ideas of what a god is, and that doesn't have to be THE GOD of catholic church. Basically any being of unparalleled power may seem to lesser beings as a god. The ancient Greeks, Romans and Egyptians all had their idea of godhood, even whole pantheons of such beings. The Goa'uld in the series were seeing themselves as gods (based on these cultures) and the Ancients and Ori in effect WERE gods to lesser beings.
@@Croftice1 And... why exactly are you lecturing me about the idea that God isn't the God of the catholic church? I haven't said that. Are you answering to my comment by ranting over something I didn't said?
Well, #1 qualification of a god would be to create a cosmos, a multiverse of infinite dimensions in infinite combinations, at a minimum. Oh, and a true god would be eternal - and not a created being, but a being in and of itself. The Ori are just flim-flam created beings, that live in a universe, created by someone else... That universe, but one of the multiverse - that multiverse just one of the infinite multiverses created by . . . you guessed it - the one true god. Many cultures, many planets, many species, many names - all point to The One. :-)
I really really do not like the Ori! I hide them tacky and dull. We were dealing with false gods before and now we’re dealing with false gods that can back it up. I am just tired of that plot line. Anubis did it better.
I hope he has ascended to a wonderful place! You've probably heard already but his body was found at the end of June. Seems to have been a hiking accident . . .don't know if he just slipped or if something happened like a heart attack/aneurism or animal attack etc. 😞
@@0nesinner Thanks, I had read "went missing on a hike" but looking at the details of the Baldy Bowl area of the San Gabriel Mountains it looks like a tough climb even in ideal conditions and not recommended when there is snow on it.
Julian Sands was an amazing actor and I was thrilled to see him in Stargate. The recent recovery of his body after five months of being missing is a bittersweet conclusion to his life. He died doing what he loved and will be remembered for his many artistic works.
Agreed 100%! I just heard with sadness about his death. His role as Doci in SG-1 was so impactful for me that anytime I've seen him in any other show since I think to myself "Hallowed Are The Ori!" ;-)
Bro I had no idea u blew me away with that info Rip Julian sands loved him in the Medellin with Jackie Chan 🙏
I knew this voice from somewhere!
He was a great actor and I hope he was a good man and that his family loved him.
I had no idea. I just came here to relive one of my favorite scenes in SG1. Such an incredible show and I loved Julian Sands' work in the Ori story arc (as well as just in general, as you say, he was an amazing actor). I had no idea he had passed away... Damn.
RIP Julian Sands. This man was the expert in portraying terror. Such a cool scene.
Love SG1
I know lot of people dislike Ori but to me they were far more interesting villain than Goa'uld had been for many seasons. Goa'uld kind of lost their menace when SGC started to eliminate system lords faster that pest control company does cockroaches.
I just wish there would had been more seasons to flesh out Ori arch more.
Yep, they had to keep bringing in more and more powerful villains to keep the show more interesting. As an example Goa'uld-Anubis-Replicators-Ori. I mean after the independance of the Jaffa the Goa'Uld was basically powerless just like it was said in the early seasons.
The Ori are very much what the Gou'auld sold themselves as. Gods with a loyal flock posessing technology unmatched.
So, yes they are very interesting in concept, but hteir one note droning just felt.... Mehh.
Would've been nice had they saved Sokar, or a few of the other Ascended like Anubis as thignsthat would be black hearted evil, but willing to become allies for the sake of knowing prescicely how terrifying the Ori are.
or just hte Ori rolling through, Anubis shitting himself in terror, and then being un-existed.
I wish they did more effort at the Free Jaffa Nation and Ori interaction... I mean there was a huge potential to get new, interesting stories, even involving Goa'uld. Those Ori could turn some lower Goa'uld lords into priors and thus creating a huge tension in the Jaffa Nation - part of them would probably see the new lords as the true gods while the other remained skeptical. You know, there is difference between the very advanced technology and the Ori who were really ascended beings, willing to use their power and persuading people its magic, despite a lot of them would be from technologically advanced civilizations.
The Ori arc was supposed to be longer. SCI-FI and MGM cancelled the show.
The "Ark of Truth" movie was to show how the Ori arc was to ultimately finish, with the defeat of Adria.
@@darkwolf4434 Hallowed be the Ori.
Season 9 was so well done. The Ori were so intriguing and frightening.
Ori are the: RESISTANCE IS FUTILE faction of SG-1.
The last 2 seasons were so terrible IMO….might as well been an entirely different show…Farscape SG1 😂 😭 💀
I find them the opposite. Mostly because the religious plot lines had been done to death with Goa’ulds. Just because they have the power to back it up doesn’t make it any better.
I sincerely appreciate that Daniel attempted to reason with opponent's or outright villains in SG-1. It contributed depth and validity which was important In order to balance the more pulpy aspects. It's a sign of quality the franchise could both have depth and levity.
After all his experiencies, he was wise as fuk
The guy had been through a lot and realized that brute force isn't usually the best option. At least not the first option. Try diplomacy first, if that fails then it might be necessary. I also think he understands the danger of exactly where he is. He strongly suspects the Ori are ascended beings and he knows very well what those can do. He is treading carefully to avoid pissing them off on first contact. Sadly it isn't enough, it rarely is with fanatics
They were not opponents or enemies at that time.
He failed miserably every single time.
Given Daniel had Ascended (with help,) and had experianced a wide variety of flife?
Going in spouting machismo was never his thing anyway. He wantedto learn and understand, and learning can't really happen with someone shouting for everyone to Kneel.
Daniel there blowing thousands of years of hard work. The ancients must be really pleased with him. lol
In the end it worked out for them and him.
@@farscape1714yeah because Morgan decided to step in lol, tbh the whole war is his fault since the ORI weren’t even aware of the Milky Way before they bumped into Daniel
“We are Ori. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.”
Sounds like the Borg
@@StottsCityBrothersInChrist Or Islam, old school Christianity, or Judaism.
@@Not-Ap New testament is the same as well, but much more subtle about it. Though I doubt anyone is wrong or right in an ever ending multiversal scale, who's to say who is and who isn't with an infinite amount of parallels between earths.
And finally, after all the disagreements with and resentment of the ancient's strict no-interference policy, Daniel starts to understand why they had those rules in place and punished those who broke them so harshly
RIP Julian Sands
I really want Daniel to say I've been ascended they ain't that great. Or his version of that.
"You need to bow before your gods!!!!"
Daniel: Oh, good grief! Not again!
Exactly why I don’t like the Ori.
"Reject enlightenment and be destroyed." .... not exactly the path the Buddha suggested.... sheesh...
Budda clearly said that you are fucked if you don't seek enlightenment.
Sounds like Nuclear Gandhi to me :)
RIP Julian Sands.
I learn a lot of this series.
It cleanse me of possible religious fanatism.
ya for sure because the ori are the truth of religion
Slavery to False Gods
Respect others and others will respect you .
god is real though dont let dumb dumbs ruin that for you by being dogmatic
@@tunaqua I don't think so. I believe that religions were made to make people happier in brutal times. I mean it's easy for us to be atheists since we can plan what we should have for dinner the next 3 weeks. But in brutal times without medicine and so on we would probably rather kill ourselves and religion has in some way led us to where we are today
He had only 5 or 6 scenes in the show alltogether, but he gave quite a menacing performance - quickly assuring the viewer the new villains mean business.
I've always found the look of the priors, including the Doci, very literal. When a person is "blessed by the Ori" and therefore transformed into a prior, their eyes become pale and hollow. They become blind (to the truth and to reason). Interestingly, the eyes of the Orici are not hollow and pale; she knows exactly what's going on.
Ori Vs The Borg: Both sound the same🤣
It's a very fun (terrifying) look in that the Ori very much are a fire that consumes all that follow them.
Like every‘religion’
@@JeanLucCaptain With Adria with the Ori, the Borg will be annihilated
Heck, a single Prior would do a lot of damage
RIP Julian
it used to be SCFI but not anymore. its actually mirrors reality.
Most badass moment of this episode... "FIRED UP DOCI: We do not require blind faith. Only that you believe what you see and know to be true."
That is the actual ori speaking
Which is itself very thin grounds, no matter how OP they are.
The non-interference rules of the ancients can be frustrating. And their inaction with Anubis could have wiped out the galaxy.
The Ori are the reason those rules exist. The hard lesson they learned.
"Good men don't need rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many!" - Dr. Who.
Think of God or the prime directive. You have the power to change anything but is it in your place to do so? Assuming God exists then he acted directly on Earth and still his own people rebelled. Now he does not. Something to think about.
Sometimes the premiere ends early. If you rewatch you can see the whole thing. UA-cam needs to fix this!
The irony of this scene is this ori guy is trying to explain the best way to enlightenment to someone who has literally achieved it before XD
Bruh I never realized that 💀
Daniel was one of maybe a bare handful of unascended beings in the milky way that understood.
Ironically Anubis wouldh ave been another.
And both would have seen the exact threat and terror that is the Ori.
He achieved it twice
@@Hateshumans helped twice
Oma liked Daniel
@@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer this is a case of the “how” you achieved something doesn’t matter as long as you achieved it.
I hope the actor (Julian Sands) is allright, he's been missing for ten days now.
I'm sure he's gone now, hopefully his body is found for his family's sake.
Well they found him. May he rest in peace.
Starting at 2:50. The best share of all Stargate episodes. It's right up with The Bailey bank run speech in "It's a Wonderful Life"
I always enjoyed the Ori as enemies, it would have been nice to see them for a bit longer. The opening episodes to this arc was perfection to me. Remotely connected to people in another galaxy, the Ori literally peering into Daniel's mind to know his name and where he is from and the innocent exploration leading to a full blown invasion on a galactic scale.
Actually the Ori were supposed to be villains for season 11 and probably 12.
Since they never happened, that's why they filmed "The Ark of Truth" to finish the story arc and give fans closure.
his deadpan stare when he says they arent gods is hilarious
3:36 Well, I'm glad we're keeping an open mind on this...
I just finished rewatching this episode. So in the ending when Daniel's and Vala's conscience is back in their own bodies, does that mean the bodies they took over actually got burnt? :(
Yep
@@kalidahnaouiyak5941 not to mention the entire village of Ver Ager, so everyone who they could have possibly talked to.
yeah, and that's the bugger of it for for those 2
Not to worry, they were really' really' bad people.
Why cut out the best part of this conversation? Downvote :(
Timestamp for the missing dialogue is 20:52 in the Episode. It's the best part.
Daniel kind of screwed the pooch on this one. He said "the ascended beings that I know..."
Finally, the Ori found where the Alterans/Ancients went, and what became of them.
It's likely the Ori thought their virus killed them all. It's also likely the Ori had no idea the Alterans LEFT Milky Way after being discovered, and deliberately went to Pegasus in order to hide again AND escape the virus --- leaving behind those who were infected like "Amazing" Girl.
It's possible that NONE of the Ancients prior to Atlantis ascended, and only AFTER they discovered the "ascended" black energy mass/entity, that they themselves learned HOW to ascend.
It's possible the Ori religion allowed the Ori to ascend long before the Alterans from the power gained from their followers.
Merlin knew of Oma, whereas Orlin didn't.
So Daniel may have revealed that the Alterans were not wiped out, and were now ascended beings in the Milky Way Galaxy.
daniel could not have known about the ori though, because they were not warned
@@kitsunekaze93 oh no doubt. In fact that may have been the real reason the ancients wiped his memory.
Well Ori could probably read that from his mind anyway, remember Orlin have read mind of prior Demeterus without problems when he entered Milky Way, probably same applies for Ori and Ori galaxy.
@@belisarian6429remember that Daniel didn’t actually step foot in the galaxy. Only his switched consciousness did.
@@Tap-a-roo Oh right, transport stones, forgot about those, still, they knew his name and planet, so they could read his transferred mind at least to some degree (or did he told it to someone in Ori galaxy? Not sure, its been years since I have seen it).
"Hallowed Are The Ori!"
A pit of eternal fire doesn't exactly inspire me to pledge eternal faith.
I love how the ori are the other side of the coin when it comes to God or at least religion. One side chooses not to interfere and rule while the other become beings of worship acting upon the lower planes.
Believe is irrelevant Faith is irrelevant, power is irrelevant. You will comply.
ALL WILL BECOME ONE WITH THE B... I mean ORI.
I wish the ori story had continued. It would have been interesting to see what aould have happened if the priors had actually arrived on earth and tried to spread origin.
It’s gods little g!!! False gods! I can’t believe people fall for it.
Requiescat in pace Julian ❤
The Ori = Catholics
The Humans = South and Central Americans....
Fantastic Season with the Religious Metaphors.....
Not Catholics or even Christians specifically, but Fanaticism in general. Running up yet another religion isnt where the show needed to go, it needed to show the dark side of faith and what it can do. There is nothing wrong with faith, Oma taught faith but faith counterbalanced with understanding, acceptance and letting go of ones Ego. One of the SGU episodes , Rodney was going to ascend and was puzzled by the idea of "Gaining control by letting go of control." Which seemed contradictory. It was about letting go of Ego and surrendering yourself to something greater, which itself is a form of faith.
@@AgentExeider the Ori are 100% Christians, fanatical ones but Christians nonetheless.
Hallowed are the ori
Hallowed be thy name
Coincidence?
@@wantanamera More like Islam, I haven't met one Christian demanding me to follow their faith under the penalty of death.
@@KLamki1 because most Christians live in countries that don’t allow that kind of behavior anymore. If they were allowed to do so, they would. If you don’t believe me just look at the history of Christianity prior to the 19th century.
@@wantanamera thank you for clarifying to others that Christianity is not bloodless
Ori = EA...spreading Origin everywhere and being just as evil xD
You clever bastard :) I love it
No longer the case. Origin is dead, they now spread EA App. Same thing under different name.
Quick point: there must have been at least one Stargate in the Ori Galaxy for them to send priors and Supergate components through to the Milky Way.
They could easily have built them.
@@Tamamo-no-Baeor powered it for travel to that distance
@@BlackDiamond2718 The Stargates were not invented in the Ori galaxy. So there wouldn't be anything to power. We also saw no evidences of gates before, so it is likely that the concept of the gates was taken from Daniel and Vala during their stay there, and they built a gate to send Priors and later the Supergate segments.
@@Tamamo-no-Bae hmmm we would have to take a look
This frankly was the logical escilation of things.
The Gou'uld were beings that pretended to be this.
Anubis was this but shackled and chained and only one eing.
This? This was the conclusion. Fighting against beings that transcended our understanding that demanded the whole of creation bow or be burned away.
Isnt this a bit like now, people do what something supposedly higher tells them from being dazzled with fireworks and becoming tangled up in it while others that question are cast out (this is happening now, in this reality)
Apart from the season intruducing the Daedalus Class Battle Cruiser....the Ori Saga is my favorite in the Stargate followed by Atlantis
I wish they showed what theese beings were capable of, Most we have seen is ascended being wiping out wraith ships.
They have the power to levitate objects, transfer infinity knowledge to humans, cure illnesses, bring back the dead, kill at will, pass through fire without being harmed, power up interstelar ships, become inmortals in the form of energy entities, be born from a woman just like Jesus Christ, etc, etc, etc.
Vex silently passing through~
Comparing the followers of origin to real world religious groups is folly. Yes we can compare religious texts but the difference is what creates a very different situation for belief. The ori were real. They showed their power, the followers of origin had proof from their "gods" of their existence and creation. Very different from every religion today. You don't have any gods coming down and showing you their existence and power.
Not to mention their followers are from preindustrial 3rd world civilizations who are at mercy of everything else and now are given advanced tech that can make their lives better. But then comes the nosy first world humans with their ideals of freewill and their question authority attitude.
Yes there are.
Well its not realy acurate. Only Daniel has seen they True power and Priors have given limited power, but random follower dosent know nothing. So if we try to compere it with earth religions Cristianity especially, so It is possible that some selected few have seen True power and humans we know as Saints might have some limited power. Well common people dont know truth. Logically we cant say God dont excist couse we havent seen it.
Another topic is Is God as we perchive it or is ist something else some other agenda. Are its creation, created for sole purpose for worship or are we development of nature who is subjected to Doctrine, we dont know truth, but i think we all should aim to find truth, couse truth will set us free or atlest following generations of us.
In the catholic church, we describe God as 'The one that is his one dertermination principle'
Meaning that God is only dertermined by himself. In other words, he act on the universe, but the universe doesn't act on him.
By this definition, the oris are clearly not gods. They are powerful, yes, but the universe still act on them. One example is that they take their power from worship from lesser beings. But the power of God is not dertermined by his worshipers.
Chuck the God from Supernatural as entered the Chat.
Catholic church, sure. But let's be honest, there isn't just catholic religion out there, is it? There are many ideas of what a god is, and that doesn't have to be THE GOD of catholic church. Basically any being of unparalleled power may seem to lesser beings as a god. The ancient Greeks, Romans and Egyptians all had their idea of godhood, even whole pantheons of such beings. The Goa'uld in the series were seeing themselves as gods (based on these cultures) and the Ancients and Ori in effect WERE gods to lesser beings.
@@Croftice1 And... why exactly are you lecturing me about the idea that God isn't the God of the catholic church? I haven't said that.
Are you answering to my comment by ranting over something I didn't said?
It is interesting to note, that without the Ori the goa'uld would've been a footnote in the galactic history.
I read loads of comments but strangely never see anything related to the crusades
Because the crusade was holy and just. But this is not because it's only a fiction
Well, #1 qualification of a god would be to create a cosmos, a multiverse of infinite dimensions in infinite combinations, at a minimum. Oh, and a true god would be eternal - and not a created being, but a being in and of itself. The Ori are just flim-flam created beings, that live in a universe, created by someone else... That universe, but one of the multiverse - that multiverse just one of the infinite multiverses created by . . . you guessed it - the one true god. Many cultures, many planets, many species, many names - all point to The One. :-)
You steal men's souls and make them your slaves!
Докто Даниэль Вы находитесь в Матрице, эп зод не настоящий
I really really do not like the Ori! I hide them tacky and dull. We were dealing with false gods before and now we’re dealing with false gods that can back it up. I am just tired of that plot line. Anubis did it better.
Washington State, surrenders. 👜🧸⭐️
Believe in Jesus Christ and you shall be saved. Bible.
The type of useless debates I have with fundamentalists from every religion. So frustrating...
Just replace "Ori" with any earth religion and you got pretty much the same story. Except for the actual existence of the so called "Gods" of course.
God loves you even if you don't love Him in return.
@@PKPhoenix83 I wouldn't have borj with ceropolsy if he loved me
Just love Daniel
Three months later they still haven't found Julian sands body. Maybe he is on Celestes
I hope he has ascended to a wonderful place! You've probably heard already but his body was found at the end of June. Seems to have been a hiking accident . . .don't know if he just slipped or if something happened like a heart attack/aneurism or animal attack etc. 😞
@@JohnLRice it was probably a mountaineering accident not a hiking accident
@@0nesinner Thanks, I had read "went missing on a hike" but looking at the details of the Baldy Bowl area of the San Gabriel Mountains it looks like a tough climb even in ideal conditions and not recommended when there is snow on it.
@@JohnLRice people that knew him said he was one of the best mountaineers they knew. I do the presidentials in January
RIP Julian Sands.