MC Eiht, RBX, Tone Loc and Ice T said the same thing MOB James is saying, which is that Pac shouldn't have gotten involved with gangs. Ice T warned Pac to stop. The beef with Orlando Anderson was a gang situation. James is saying that the MOB had enforcers who should have handled it on their own. Also, Pac was out on bail and the assault was captured on video. Suge Knight got 9 years on a probation violation for kicking Anderson. If Pac had lived, his bail certainly would have been revoked.
This is the first time James Macdonald has acknowledged that Pac was not a Chris Brown or Soldier Boy type. He acknowledged that Pac was wit tha bizness and had a track record and homies to vouch for that from coast to coast. I have much love and respect for the Damu homie, but hopefully before he passes he evolves beyond this LA mentality where you believe that terrorizing your own kind solidifies you as a gangsta and that LA is the only place where ninjas is hard. When I say terrorizing I am specifically talking about destroying one another behind absolutely nothing, "a war" based on colors and street names, not ownership of land or businesses or major trafficking lanes like the cartels/mafias. Shout out James. RIP the 🐐 MAKAVELI
He understands that. He knows the difference but he accepts what he was a part of and is still linked to. If you watch some of his videos with Reggie Wright he you will see it if you haven’t already.
I have watched numerous interviews with MOB James. I have never heard him imply that Pac was similar to clowns like Chris Brown or Soulja Boy. What I heard from him is that niggas shed blood for the MOB, and he felt like Pac could not just waltz in and claim a set. James believes that Pac was a rapper, and should have just stayed in that lane. I agree. Shortly before Pac was murdered, he gave an interview with Vibe magazine where he announced that he was going to run for office, and start an independent political party for Blacks and other disenfranchised ethnic groups. The FBI was afraid that Pac was going to revive the Black Panther Party. Pac was also about to launch Euphanasia, an umbrella company that was going to produce movie projects and develop community organizing initiatives. He was planning a biopic about Nat Turner. Pac was also working on a screenplay, and preparing to launch Makaveli Records. Pac was on the verge of accomplishing great things inside and outside of entertainment. He could have become the leader that Black people have needed for the past 50 years - Pac had the potential to become a street level, grassroots force like Malcolm X and Fred Hampton. Brothers and sisters in the hood, thugs, gangbangers and incarcerated individuals loved Pac, and would have followed him anywhere. Unfortunately he also wanted to get into gangbanging. There is a recorded 1995 phone call between Pac and Sanyika Shakur (no relation) aka Monster Kody. Pac talked about being recruited by gangs, and his desire to participate in gangbanging. That led to his demise.
@@htatesil4192 I don't know how to tell you this without hurting you deeply, but I don't care what you think about anything. Sorry. Have a good summer. 👍
Nah! Mob James been in the trenches and in wars. He felt like Pac didn’t put in work to rep the Mob. He ain’t saying Pac is a sucka but they lost a lot of comrades over street shit. Pac didn’t earn his stripes as a Piru.
@@suge662bompton suge paying his bills rn for some reason narc james thinks sum1 owes him something he worked part time working the doors he literally a nobody
He definitely does hate ‘Pac. He hates him cause his brother loved him. That combined with ‘Pac’s fame. His brother loved him and spent more time of his life with him than James during that time.
“You think you mob nigga we the motherfuckin mob”… Pac was yelling that MOB shit on so many tracks in 96, he was affiliated even if it wasn’t official.
We cannot say mob James is a hater remember he is older then pac buntry suge neckbone Trayvon etc so he was a lot wiser. If they listened to mob James pac would still be alive so we cannot say mob James is a hater it’s just the unfortunate harsh truth! Pac didn’t get a chance to learn from this mistake 😢rip king
@@leonleon2276 exactly we have that older person that’s around us looking at us like a bunch of kids always complaining how childish we are and saying “mayn we wouldn’t do this in my time etc etc” we allllllll know people like this lol this was just mob James around pac the younger homies
@@johntucker4056 dude, everybody loves street slang talk. Even people who have nothing to do with that life. It’s fascinating to them. And “hater” gets chucked around in every single little debate. If I was to say I don’t like xyz because i don’t like the style or whatever…..instantly someone says “hater” 🤣 they don’t even understand what a hater actually is slang for. 😂 😂
@@htatesil4192 facts dude just talking 😂😂😂 he was not around like that when Tupac was around he don’t even know 2Pac like that that’s why In live and die in LA he shouted out the people that was around
2pac was relate-able . Mob don’t understand it because he already said he wasn’t around. Pac had just got outta prison just like most of the guys at death row around that time. So of course when they got together it’s prison talk and he was relatable been in the same positions as the death row dudes so they embraced him. Just like a lot of gang members in prison that were beefing but become allies and friends once they get in the joint. Same thing . I get what mob saying tho you gotta be born and raised . Pac was just like that brother from another mother like us black folks say. We might not be blood but we rock like brothers
No Mob is a gang banger that loved his hood. Mob lost homeboys for the hood and killed for his neighborhood. Pac didn’t do any of that and got put on. I understand where James is coming from. To an extent James is right had Pac focused on music he would probably be alive
@@Lilbigmeat I get that part bro I said Pac was Relatable. I know he wasn’t from they hood. But they had been in same situations regardless of the hood just life shit in general. So that was the connection that made them feel like it was a acceptable to be apart of them . I see both sides to it
@@Lilbigmeat maybe not the same as in gang banging. But being shot and being in prison where they related the most. Again most gangbangers been shot and to prison so they related
James spitting facts and keeping it real , only people that hate on James are the Dxck Riders, Peoples ideas ain’t match up with reality and they don’t like when someone show them that. Respect to James for actually telling it like it is and not perpetuating myths for easy like.
I love how you and Vlad both employ proper spelling, grammar and punctuation most of the time. This hints at being educated and being proud of that intelligence, both of which are extremely rare in the hop hop genre. I doubt Vlad has time to help, but you could (and should) start a side business offering affordable tutoring to the vast bulk of the other rap music-related UA-camrs and most other rap fans too) 😉👍 Get that bread, Cam
@@almightytre3730as an arab i know spitting isn’t the type of thing you only do once … you’ve seen the picture in his red wings jersey on doing it so i’ll bet money he used to do that shit a lot
I feel James and he got to look at this also Deathrow inherited his beef when he signed to Deathrow and when it was a bounty on the Deathrow necklaces and when that happened to Trey in the mall he felt that it was his fault that it happened cause he with Deathrow now
I'm a Pac fan and have no problem with James thinking like that, it's all opinions I'd have love to hear bountrys and Heron's opinion considering they was around more but unfortunately they passed.. Hoping Neckbone does an interview one day.
I still don’t believe Pac was in a gang or tried to be in a gang. He showed them guys love and were homies with them because Suge had them around all the time. He showed love by shouting them out.. Those Piru member were literally everywhere Suge and Pac went.. they became friends nothin more nothin less.
Mob James who breaking bread with the homies that s not long enough to be in any situation that definitely doesn't make you from the hood 2pac was a great cam capone news keep dropping them jewel
2PAC💎loved Buntry🖤that’s why he was a ridah & had yals backs but, Artistically 🎼 he should’ve used that energy to tour worldwide 🌍. Imagine a DR💎 world 🌍 tour deeem fawk everyone involved in 2PACS💎assassination👨🏿💼
People keep saying 2pac didn't know better when he joined bloods. People who say that really didn't listen to his music. In alot of his songs he said he wanted to die. For example; in the song "So Many Tears" he said: "Now I'm lost and I'm weary/ so many tears, I'm suicidal so don't stand near me/ my every move is a calculated step/ to bring me closer to embrace an early death... Also in the song, "If I Die 2night" he said: Going insane, never die, live eternal, who shall I fear/ don't shed a tear for me, nigga, I ain't happy here/ I hope they bury me and send me to my rest/ headlines reading, "Murdered to death", my last breath/ take a look, picture a crook on his last stand/ motherfuckers don't understand, if I die tonight... All throughout his music he spoke about not wanting to live anymore and wanting to go out by being shot to death. I honestly believe 2pac knew what he got himself into, and he just didn't care. He was depressed and suicidal in that sense. He was tired of all the pressure after abandoning his political/panther life to pursue the thug/gangster life, and all the pain and betrayal he went through from family and friends. He said he wanted to go out in a blaze of glory, unfortunately.
@@mclovin9236 MOB James verified 2pac joined bloods. That's why he's been so angry with 2pac and other blood members, because of how he was blessed into the gang without even being a part of their hood and how much other bloods in MOB admired 2pac. Also, other blood members verified it as well as people who were close to him, 2pac claimed MOB Piru in his music, and 2pac died by a rival gang member. It doesn't get any clearer then that. 2pac didn't live long enough to glorify his MOB Piru ties, but in the short time he was alive he did yell it out numerous times in his music.
@@JesusIsLord2013 🤣 it means money over bitches. A lot of mf got that tattoo. But it don’t mean they mob or make them mob. Why would he join them when he’s a member of the BPP. Make it make sense 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤣😭
@@YMBKing 2pac was under alot of pressure in regards to the black panther movement. He knew he would have to have a clean image. So instead he took a different path. He started hanging with street dudes and eventually became the leader of the "Thug Life" movement. While he was representing "Thug Life", he made it a point in many of his interviews and songs to declare that he wasn't a role model. Meaning he left that black panther side of him for the "Thug Life". After he got shot and went to prison and was bailed out, He upgraded from "Thug Life" to "Outlaw Immortal". From Outlaw Immortal, he joined MOB Pirus. In the song "All Out" from the "Until The End Of Time" album, 2pac raps: "I'm screamin' death row, throw my Westside, ain't no thang/ We was raised off drive-by's, brought up to bang/ We claim mob, M.O.B if you be specific/ We control all cash from Atlantic Pacific... Keep in mind he starts off by saying "we was raised off drive-bys, brought up to bang". He's talking about gang banging. Then he says "we claim mob, M.O.B.. If you think he was saying "money over bitches", you're delusional. If MOB James, one of the founders of M.O.B Pirus said 2pac was embraced as being a part of the M.O.B Pirus, who are you to say otherwise?
I remember watching that Las Vegas fight when the story broke back in 96 and that shyte always seemed odd to me like Tupac was acting out of character.
PAC was out of character, for the fact he took it upon himself to stomp dude out, it wasn’t truly his fight. But his loyalty, his inside warrior, was on display. After seeing his big homie Tyson handle business in the ring, his adrenaline was out the roof. It costed him.
@@nvm7191 I understand that as well, but being the #1 artist in the world, you have to think before you move. He jumped the gun. I understand it though, fresh out that Tyson fight, plus being close to Tyson. He was on one! I know My family and myself, after a Tyson fight, we’d be pumped out of our minds. I could image how it was for PAC.
I just don't think that Tupac apologists understand the intricacies of LA gang politics. I'm born and raised in Brooklyn, NY and not from LA at all. But when you look up LA gang culture in the '90s and then look at what went down the night Tupac got killed, you start to see where James is coming from. Tupac was a talented musician and actor. But he messed up and involved himself in something that costed him his life. It's really that simple. Any deeper meaning if you don't know LA hood gang politics means you are not knowledgeable enough on the subject.
I think he got a point, but that's just how Pac was. And also, Puff put a bounty on Death Row chains. Thet snatched death row chain, that's rap/street shit. So like, it is what it is.
Cam you probably should get Mob James and 2pac father to have a real time sit down with each other, I bet those brothers could figure this whole thing out
Very fitting that “fan” is short for fanatic because that clearly describes a lot of Tupac fans. The cat’s downfall was that he was enamored with street guys and street culture. It constantly led him to negative situations, and eventually got him killed. Trevon Lane has been quoted as saying he was M.O.B., and that he was from “their” neighborhood and folks on the internet are making an attempt to argue against that??? FOH!!!
He was born into the street culture he just wasn’t an active gang member. You can be in the streets without banging is what a lot of y’all are confused about. He was surrounded by all of that shit there was no escape for him
@@Asvpsupreme I’m fifty years old (two years younger than Tupac), and I was born and raised on the west side of Chicago. I’m not confused about anything, especially not the streets as my family members, friends, neighbors, classmates, at times, were all involved. That conversation can be had with someone who doesn’t know or accept logic and reality.
@@Bugger22 same here I’m just not 50. It still doesn’t change what I said. If you surrounded by death and violence most your life how you expect the man to turn out? A scholar? The man was a rapper talking about his own experience living how he BEEN living before deathrow. Y’all just don’t pay attention
@@Asvpsupreme I’m gonna make a statement and then I’m gonna jump off. I’m gonna speak as if you’re not black because that what you like. Our most resilient, most bright, and most influential come from the same conditions post slavery. Tupac’s and my upbringings were no tougher than Malcom X, Dr. King, Medgar Evers, Clarence 13 X, Rosa Parks or ANY of our TRUE freedom fighters. Take that “y’all not understanding” tag line somewhere else. ✊🏾
@@htatesil4192 IDK about no studio gangster but he wasn’t a real gangster. Now that don’t mean he was soft or nothing but he should’ve stayed on the path he was on and it would’ve turned out better, instead he went backward and brought BIG down with him. Each and every time he got into a life changing situation was from aligning himself with people someone of his background and influence got no business being with. Despite being warned by people who gave a fuck he continued to show poor judgement and eventually turned friends into enemies.
@gettinmines125 pac is a black panther regardless if he was affiliated with deathrow he's a black panther and that's the real reason he was takin out Orlando must of been a informant like keefe they must got up in drugs
😂😂😂😂 exactly wait until suge get all they all gonna dissappear we already know james is a narc 😂😂😂😂 people are actually listening to this narc kills me inside dude never hung around pac 😂😂😂😂
Seems like pac is still paying all their bills especially bum first they even stole the name of his song and used it for a channel name ridiculous 😂😂😂😂
Look up the interview where he at the gun range. Pac literally says they can smoke him and he don't care and he was referring to gang banging politics. His words not mine. He didn't care to die that way
@@TheAirForceFly Apparently he didn't care he wasn't thinking correctly you and I know if Pac would've lived after that night he would've put it in a song how he punched a gang member and said come and get me if yall wanta war!!
@@undergroundheatcypher1091 on tattoo tears he mentions the crips when he referring to "i heard some niggas on the other side of town" and that was months before. So he wasn't oblivious to the beef between mob and southside
@@TheAirForceFly Didn't you read what I said he thought he knew about the gang life meaning the repercussions could end in death it wasn't obvious to him you trying to school me on something I already said fam!!
@@undergroundheatcypher1091 no im saying. I don't think it was too late. Just his time. He knew enough to push the line. And based on his history what he did to orlando was not shocking. If the man willing to disrespect them bangers in chicago over yumi then to punch orlando for violating one of his homies aint shit. He just got smoked over it
From what was shown, it wasnt that Tupac was looking to gang bang. It was that he was willing to be loyal to anyone he felt was loyal to him. It just so happened to be the guys he felt were loyal to him were gang bangers. I always felt he did what he did out of loyalty, not set trippin, but thats just how I perceived it.
Exactly this nigga is a hater, Tupac damn near the the only reason he getting interviewed, even beyond that grave he putting money in yo crab ass pocket
don't you get it, the real Pirus knew Orlando was a hitter, and would not have jumped him that way. Orlando didn't respect Tupac, and it was humiliating to be attacked by a rapper, who gang members think are less than them. It was insulting to him, and cause for extreme reaction, and Tupac got it.
2pac wasn’t from mob officially. He didn’t put in work like gang members are supposed to. He was accepted by some , but the truth is he wasn’t really a gangster. He died because he got caught up trying to imitate what he saw and rapped about. He was a very talented poet and rapper. R.I.P 2pac
@@Theshadiest1 I agree to extent but he never imitated anything. He was like that before deathrow and that was due to his environment and the way he grew up. When suge bailed him out of jail he felt loyalty for them he prolly would’ve put in work if he had that chance but it didn’t end well for him in the end. He wasn’t no gangsta he was a soldier which is better
@@Asvpsupreme yes exactly. Loyalty is a better way of putting it. He took flight on Orlando Anderson out of loyalty for death row and mob. The sad part about that is he lost his life because of that.
Real recognize real. It doesn't matter if Pac was from their hood. He was a real and loyal brother. Deathrow was full of bloods. He was apart of Deathrow. He was riding for them.
@@MOBSquadGaming that's what I mean he was saying money over bitches/MOB before death row but people think Pac was claiming Piru when I don't think he was
i recall when that happened; and i said the same thing then, what he is saying now. Tupac was not a Gangmember, and that culture is deeper than colors, and throwing setts etc
How you know it’s false cause you seen a couple of interviews? You ain’t know pac behind the scenes and what he really was about. You fans act like you know him personally just from songs and interviews and when people who actually been around him come and speak the truth y’all talking about they lying.
Tupac wasn't from Compton, but he still had alot of street credibility, based on his, upbringing, lifestyle, and associations. There were all types of street guys and gangsters who weren't raised in Compton.
Same, but them few months on DR pac did make a huge impact. Even mob James can't understand why his bro got 2pac tattooed on him and not the other homies.
Say only if Mob James only Knew that the hit was for Reggie then he wouldn’t see Reggie Jr or Sr in the same light as he does I was there at the shell the day that shit happened
I think he was jealous of Tupac until a few years ago, cause his stance has lightened up, but he feels he has to keep that “same energy” to a certain extent.
I am I big Tupac Fan n I agree with Mob James, imagine If Chris Brown passed Away N u start hearing Dudes like DJ QUICK start saying This . Would u think he was hating?
Respect to Mob James. But I like you to ask Mob James 1. Does he love Tupac songs? What's his favorite? 2. Does he love the fame Tupac brought to their set? Now that he is older. Brand value-wise
To me, this is no different than Monster going at Ice Cube. A lot of people didn't like when Monster was on Cube's helmet, but a dude who has put in A LOT of work don't take too kindly to someone getting what they got with none of the effort. Kind of like Aries Spears getting upset at the Kardashians's becoming super-rich with no talent, when he actually had to hone his craft over many years to not end with a quarter of what they got. I get it. Fans are just going to defend who they love, but that is what it is.
You right Mob. I will never understand how an outsider can become 'crew' outta no where without putting in some work. You not hating Mob, you just know/understand the code of camaraderie. H.P. for life.
As much as I hear what he saying. Pac used MOB It didn’t turn out well for him. But he used them! He needed a army to combat all his enemies and found one through suge.
@@ILoveTheAllCreator pac haters are the ones who lack rational. Pac is harder than James at all levels, and Pac took care of Orlando, it’ was his crew that was lagging.
Do this guy realize that the only reason people listen to him and the only reason he has a platform is because of Tupac. Nobody is interested in his lifestyle at all. Dude needs to thank Pac for getting him paid today.
Bro only reason I feel like that analogy is flawed is because Orlando wasn’t gonna jus say pac didn’t jump him so he was gonna pass him and go find who shot him.Orlando was out for the kill that night
2Pac made a lot of people famous by talking about him 27 years later 🐐
People still talking about Jesus
@@joeydirt6797 🧢
@@joeydirt6797 😂😭😭😭😭😭🔥
MC Eiht, RBX, Tone Loc and Ice T said the same thing MOB James is saying, which is that Pac shouldn't have gotten involved with gangs. Ice T warned Pac to stop. The beef with Orlando Anderson was a gang situation. James is saying that the MOB had enforcers who should have handled it on their own.
Also, Pac was out on bail and the assault was captured on video. Suge Knight got 9 years on a probation violation for kicking Anderson. If Pac had lived, his bail certainly would have been revoked.
@@joeydirt6797exactly 😂
This is spot on and I agree. I understand where James is coming from. I get it. 💯
man fuck mob james. this mf let his lil bro get killed by his own gang. wtf kinda person is this? why should you respect someone like this? get lost
Pac should have never got in like that anyway. And they shouldn't have let him. Too much at stake smh.
Right 2pac was a Activist/revolutionary He should've stayed out of that....
Exactly
People that’s not from the streets not getting it
Way too many homies to let that happen to Pac but Mob James speaking truth. Never felt no hate from this nigga at all.
This is the first time James Macdonald has acknowledged that Pac was not a Chris Brown or Soldier Boy type. He acknowledged that Pac was wit tha bizness and had a track record and homies to vouch for that from coast to coast. I have much love and respect for the Damu homie, but hopefully before he passes he evolves beyond this LA mentality where you believe that terrorizing your own kind solidifies you as a gangsta and that LA is the only place where ninjas is hard. When I say terrorizing I am specifically talking about destroying one another behind absolutely nothing, "a war" based on colors and street names, not ownership of land or businesses or major trafficking lanes like the cartels/mafias. Shout out James. RIP the 🐐 MAKAVELI
He understands that. He knows the difference but he accepts what he was a part of and is still linked to.
If you watch some of his videos with Reggie Wright he you will see it if you haven’t already.
I have watched numerous interviews with MOB James. I have never heard him imply that Pac was similar to clowns like Chris Brown or Soulja Boy. What I heard from him is that niggas shed blood for the MOB, and he felt like Pac could not just waltz in and claim a set.
James believes that Pac was a rapper, and should have just stayed in that lane. I agree. Shortly before Pac was murdered, he gave an interview with Vibe magazine where he announced that he was going to run for office, and start an independent political party for Blacks and other disenfranchised ethnic groups. The FBI was afraid that Pac was going to revive the Black Panther Party.
Pac was also about to launch Euphanasia, an umbrella company that was going to produce movie projects and develop community organizing initiatives. He was planning a biopic about Nat Turner. Pac was also working on a screenplay, and preparing to launch Makaveli Records.
Pac was on the verge of accomplishing great things inside and outside of entertainment. He could have become the leader that Black people have needed for the past 50 years - Pac had the potential to become a street level, grassroots force like Malcolm X and Fred Hampton. Brothers and sisters in the hood, thugs, gangbangers and incarcerated individuals loved Pac, and would have followed him anywhere. Unfortunately he also wanted to get into gangbanging. There is a recorded 1995 phone call between Pac and Sanyika Shakur (no relation) aka Monster Kody. Pac talked about being recruited by gangs, and his desire to participate in gangbanging. That led to his demise.
@@davidsamuels9557 how is Chris brown a clown? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@htatesil4192 I don't know how to tell you this without hurting you deeply, but I don't care what you think about anything. Sorry. Have a good summer. 👍
Nigga even told on his bro Timmy ru over whooping his kids 😂 yall so dumb 🤦
Some of his homies had love for Pac and that was all the cred that he needed as far as they were concerned.
Nah! Mob James been in the trenches and in wars. He felt like Pac didn’t put in work to rep the Mob. He ain’t saying Pac is a sucka but they lost a lot of comrades over street shit. Pac didn’t earn his stripes as a Piru.
(4:20)Big James just said what people needed to hear for the longest: 2 PAC was w/ da Bizness, he just should’ve stayed out of their business…I agree
Respect 💪🏾 I used to think he hated Tupac.
😂😂😂 Reggie groming him they are a joke
He was jealous of Pac and Snoop salary
He does
@@suge662bompton suge paying his bills rn for some reason narc james thinks sum1 owes him something he worked part time working the doors he literally a nobody
He definitely does hate ‘Pac. He hates him cause his brother loved him. That combined with ‘Pac’s fame. His brother loved him and spent more time of his life with him than James during that time.
“You think you mob nigga we the motherfuckin mob”… Pac was yelling that MOB shit on so many tracks in 96, he was affiliated even if it wasn’t official.
I hear Mob James tho he tellin the real! He keeping it a buck fr fr 💯 🤷🏾♂️
Like he told on Frank Thornton
He's a narc chasn clout old broke deathrow niggaz
Seems like real gangsters frown upon rappers thinking they’re from the same cloth as them being the gangsters actually put in work.
It’s disrespectful towards the real gangsters
Mob James always being 💯 as one of 2 pacs biggest fans, I can’t hate anything he just said
We cannot say mob James is a hater remember he is older then pac buntry suge neckbone Trayvon etc so he was a lot wiser. If they listened to mob James pac would still be alive so we cannot say mob James is a hater it’s just the unfortunate harsh truth! Pac didn’t get a chance to learn from this mistake 😢rip king
A hater is a street slang for someone who is jealous. I’m not sure James be jealous
@@leonleon2276 exactly we have that older person that’s around us looking at us like a bunch of kids always complaining how childish we are and saying “mayn we wouldn’t do this in my time etc etc” we allllllll know people like this lol this was just mob James around pac the younger homies
@@johntucker4056 dude, everybody loves street slang talk. Even people who have nothing to do with that life. It’s fascinating to them. And “hater” gets chucked around in every single little debate. If I was to say I don’t like xyz because i don’t like the style or whatever…..instantly someone says “hater” 🤣 they don’t even understand what a hater actually is slang for. 😂 😂
Just like you saying pac would still be alive
A lot of UA-cam channels build by talking about Tupac, people still making a living off of 2Pac
I agree with everything he saying and Orlando should’ve gotten a pass that night and they handled that back in Compton🤔
He's lying nigga works with kading and reg also the fbi
Exactly
No passes
@@DirtyDev100 and that’s why we lost Pac😢
No pass he jumped Tre in the MALL, passed over wit at that point! THE HOMMIES (not pac) should beat his azz RIGHT THERE, RIGHT THEN 💯
Hold on bro Tupac was only with death row for 7-8 months Thts crazy he made a big impact on a couple months
11 months and MOB James wasn't even around death row when Tupac was today
@@outlaw6 😂😂😂😂 the woerd narc james don't even know pac this is a sad brother man
@@htatesil4192 facts dude just talking 😂😂😂 he was not around like that when Tupac was around he don’t even know 2Pac like that that’s why In live and die in LA he shouted out the people that was around
@@outlaw6 He literally started off the video by saying he didn’t know Tupac like that.
@@ToothTeller 😂😂😂so why is he there pac still paying these deathrow dummies bills crazy
2pac was relate-able . Mob don’t understand it because he already said he wasn’t around. Pac had just got outta prison just like most of the guys at death row around that time. So of course when they got together it’s prison talk and he was relatable been in the same positions as the death row dudes so they embraced him. Just like a lot of gang members in prison that were beefing but become allies and friends once they get in the joint. Same thing . I get what mob saying tho you gotta be born and raised . Pac was just like that brother from another mother like us black folks say. We might not be blood but we rock like brothers
No Mob is a gang banger that loved his hood. Mob lost homeboys for the hood and killed for his neighborhood. Pac didn’t do any of that and got put on. I understand where James is coming from. To an extent James is right had Pac focused on music he would probably be alive
@@Lilbigmeat I get that part bro I said Pac was Relatable. I know he wasn’t from they hood. But they had been in same situations regardless of the hood just life shit in general. So that was the connection that made them feel like it was a acceptable to be apart of them . I see both sides to it
@@Lilbigmeat maybe not the same as in gang banging. But being shot and being in prison where they related the most. Again most gangbangers been shot and to prison so they related
Pac and the MOB had common foes. They related
@@deeebossmanDoesn't matter, he was too important to move that reckless.
James spitting facts and keeping it real , only people that hate on James are the Dxck Riders, Peoples ideas ain’t match up with reality and they don’t like when someone show them that.
Respect to James for actually telling it like it is and not perpetuating myths for easy like.
It’s a damn shame how many rappers went to LA and tried to do the same shit knowing what happen to pac!!
It almost worked for pac but he put his hands on the wrong crip
If you understand gang politics you know exactly where Mob James is coming from.
Facts
I love how you and Vlad both employ proper spelling, grammar and punctuation most of the time. This hints at being educated and being proud of that intelligence, both of which are extremely rare in the hop hop genre.
I doubt Vlad has time to help, but you could (and should) start a side business offering affordable tutoring to the vast bulk of the other rap music-related UA-camrs and most other rap fans too)
😉👍 Get that bread, Cam
M.O.B. JAMES IS DEFF RIGHT🔥🔥💯💯💯💯
I love Tupac and it’s ashame what happened to him…but Mob James is right.
Totally agree! Pac is my all time favorite rapper, but immaturity and wanting to fit in led to his demise, period. MOB James has always been correct.
🐀 wasn't even around like that...but said Tupac was walking around spitting on people...GTFOH
Lol facts
Pac literally on fuming camera spitting on people 🤡
@Sunflower spitting at reporters not fans as James has said previously
@@almightytre3730 thank you
@@almightytre3730as an arab i know spitting isn’t the type of thing you only do once … you’ve seen the picture in his red wings jersey on doing it so i’ll bet money he used to do that shit a lot
I feel James and he got to look at this also Deathrow inherited his beef when he signed to Deathrow and when it was a bounty on the Deathrow necklaces and when that happened to Trey in the mall he felt that it was his fault that it happened cause he with Deathrow now
I'm a Pac fan and have no problem with James thinking like that, it's all opinions I'd have love to hear bountrys and Heron's opinion considering they was around more but unfortunately they passed.. Hoping Neckbone does an interview one day.
I still don’t believe Pac was in a gang or tried to be in a gang. He showed them guys love and were homies with them because Suge had them around all the time. He showed love by shouting them out.. Those Piru member were literally everywhere Suge and Pac went.. they became friends nothin more nothin less.
Naw they influenced each other, 2Pac was already had that prison mindset inside him and he wanted to part of something/army
Exactly dont know why people dont get that
Treyvon referred to Pac as a homie from the Mob thats the closest to proof on YT
Mob James who breaking bread with the homies that s not long enough to be in any situation that definitely doesn't make you from the hood 2pac was a great cam capone news keep dropping them jewel
2pac was an artist for real
Good interview 🔥🔥
2PAC💎loved Buntry🖤that’s why he was a ridah & had yals backs but, Artistically 🎼 he should’ve used that energy to tour worldwide 🌍. Imagine a DR💎 world 🌍 tour deeem fawk everyone involved in 2PACS💎assassination👨🏿💼
You sound stupid
He was hustling backwards. What person joins a street gang at 25????
😂😂😂😂😂 stop listening to narc james he's a hater and a nobody
He was around these guys everyday by circumstance they took a liking to him n Treyvon vouched Pac didn't go looking for it
@@trapmuzik6708 so they made him say MOB on a record? You can know the killas and not have to be one of them.
People keep saying 2pac didn't know better when he joined bloods. People who say that really didn't listen to his music. In alot of his songs he said he wanted to die. For example; in the song "So Many Tears" he said: "Now I'm lost and I'm weary/ so many tears, I'm suicidal so don't stand near me/ my every move is a calculated step/ to bring me closer to embrace an early death... Also in the song, "If I Die 2night" he said: Going insane, never die, live eternal, who shall I fear/ don't shed a tear for me, nigga, I ain't happy here/ I hope they bury me and send me to my rest/ headlines reading, "Murdered to death", my last breath/ take a look, picture a crook on his last stand/ motherfuckers don't understand, if I die tonight... All throughout his music he spoke about not wanting to live anymore and wanting to go out by being shot to death. I honestly believe 2pac knew what he got himself into, and he just didn't care. He was depressed and suicidal in that sense. He was tired of all the pressure after abandoning his political/panther life to pursue the thug/gangster life, and all the pain and betrayal he went through from family and friends. He said he wanted to go out in a blaze of glory, unfortunately.
He never joined the Bloods
@@mclovin9236 MOB James verified 2pac joined bloods. That's why he's been so angry with 2pac and other blood members, because of how he was blessed into the gang without even being a part of their hood and how much other bloods in MOB admired 2pac. Also, other blood members verified it as well as people who were close to him, 2pac claimed MOB Piru in his music, and 2pac died by a rival gang member. It doesn't get any clearer then that. 2pac didn't live long enough to glorify his MOB Piru ties, but in the short time he was alive he did yell it out numerous times in his music.
@@JesusIsLord2013 🤣 it means money over bitches. A lot of mf got that tattoo. But it don’t mean they mob or make them mob. Why would he join them when he’s a member of the BPP. Make it make sense 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤣😭
@@YMBKing 2pac was under alot of pressure in regards to the black panther movement. He knew he would have to have a clean image. So instead he took a different path. He started hanging with street dudes and eventually became the leader of the "Thug Life" movement. While he was representing "Thug Life", he made it a point in many of his interviews and songs to declare that he wasn't a role model. Meaning he left that black panther side of him for the "Thug Life". After he got shot and went to prison and was bailed out, He upgraded from "Thug Life" to "Outlaw Immortal". From Outlaw Immortal, he joined MOB Pirus. In the song "All Out" from the "Until The End Of Time" album, 2pac raps: "I'm screamin' death row, throw my Westside, ain't no thang/ We was raised off drive-by's, brought up to bang/ We claim mob, M.O.B if you be specific/ We control all cash from Atlantic Pacific... Keep in mind he starts off by saying "we was raised off drive-bys, brought up to bang". He's talking about gang banging. Then he says "we claim mob, M.O.B.. If you think he was saying "money over bitches", you're delusional. If MOB James, one of the founders of M.O.B Pirus said 2pac was embraced as being a part of the M.O.B Pirus, who are you to say otherwise?
I remember watching that Las Vegas fight when the story broke back in 96 and that shyte always seemed odd to me like Tupac was acting out of character.
Naw he wasn’t acting out of character he been doing that
Pac is the perfect example of when keeping it fake goes wrong.
PAC was out of character, for the fact he took it upon himself to stomp dude out, it wasn’t truly his fight. But his loyalty, his inside warrior, was on display. After seeing his big homie Tyson handle business in the ring, his adrenaline was out the roof. It costed him.
@@ERiseCali the only reason he took it personal was because the person who allegedly put the bounty out on the chains was there when he got set up
@@nvm7191 I understand that as well, but being the #1 artist in the world, you have to think before you move. He jumped the gun. I understand it though, fresh out that Tyson fight, plus being close to Tyson. He was on one! I know My family and myself, after a Tyson fight, we’d be pumped out of our minds. I could image how it was for PAC.
Mob James is right. We love Tupac, buy Tupac had no business doing what he did. That wasn’t his business. Tupac wasn’t a Blood Piru. God bless Tupac.
I just don't think that Tupac apologists understand the intricacies of LA gang politics. I'm born and raised in Brooklyn, NY and not from LA at all. But when you look up LA gang culture in the '90s and then look at what went down the night Tupac got killed, you start to see where James is coming from.
Tupac was a talented musician and actor. But he messed up and involved himself in something that costed him his life. It's really that simple. Any deeper meaning if you don't know LA hood gang politics means you are not knowledgeable enough on the subject.
😂😂😂 vegas isn't La there's no way gang bangers wouldn't get away with that on flamingo&koval
James works with the fbi are u slow in the head like the idiots over at bum first
I think he got a point, but that's just how Pac was. And also, Puff put a bounty on Death Row chains. Thet snatched death row chain, that's rap/street shit. So like, it is what it is.
PAC in that moment was a Piru pushing the same line as you Mobb James whether you agree or not that’s 💯
Cam you probably should get Mob James and 2pac father to have a real time sit down with each other, I bet those brothers could figure this whole thing out
Somefolk Saying Tupac Shakur is still Alive.. well he is.. everytime I play his Music in my Car” he never miss A beat..😄
Crazy how much people talk about him after he died jus like he said they would
Haters like narc james a NOBODY at deathrow
Yea they not talking about him for the reasons he was thinking about tho
Very fitting that “fan” is short for fanatic because that clearly describes a lot of Tupac fans. The cat’s downfall was that he was enamored with street guys and street culture. It constantly led him to negative situations, and eventually got him killed. Trevon Lane has been quoted as saying he was M.O.B., and that he was from “their” neighborhood and folks on the internet are making an attempt to argue against that??? FOH!!!
He was born into the street culture he just wasn’t an active gang member. You can be in the streets without banging is what a lot of y’all are confused about. He was surrounded by all of that shit there was no escape for him
@@Asvpsupreme I’m fifty years old (two years younger than Tupac), and I was born and raised on the west side of Chicago. I’m not confused about anything, especially not the streets as my family members, friends, neighbors, classmates, at times, were all involved. That conversation can be had with someone who doesn’t know or accept logic and reality.
@@Bugger22 same here I’m just not 50. It still doesn’t change what I said. If you surrounded by death and violence most your life how you expect the man to turn out? A scholar? The man was a rapper talking about his own experience living how he BEEN living before deathrow. Y’all just don’t pay attention
@@Asvpsupreme I’m gonna make a statement and then I’m gonna jump off. I’m gonna speak as if you’re not black because that what you like. Our most resilient, most bright, and most influential come from the same conditions post slavery. Tupac’s and my upbringings were no tougher than Malcom X, Dr. King, Medgar Evers, Clarence 13 X, Rosa Parks or ANY of our TRUE freedom fighters. Take that “y’all not understanding” tag line somewhere else. ✊🏾
“…..because that’s what you sound like.”
Pac should've stayed in the studio he'd be alive today
But yall calling him a studio gangster what do yall want 🤔
@@htatesil4192 IDK about no studio gangster but he wasn’t a real gangster. Now that don’t mean he was soft or nothing but he should’ve stayed on the path he was on and it would’ve turned out better, instead he went backward and brought BIG down with him. Each and every time he got into a life changing situation was from aligning himself with people someone of his background and influence got no business being with. Despite being warned by people who gave a fuck he continued to show poor judgement and eventually turned friends into enemies.
@gettinmines125 pac is a black panther regardless if he was affiliated with deathrow he's a black panther and that's the real reason he was takin out Orlando must of been a informant like keefe they must got up in drugs
Speaking facts
Mob James was and is Jealous of 2pac and you can here it in his tone
Look how much more of life he lived than 2pac lol. Who really the real one hehe
Salute to Cam Capone and big shout out to MOB James. U ma nigga . Respect
Cam waiting for his chance too ask about FG he ain’t fooling me 😂😂😂😂
Exactly reggie brought out narc james then reg told on james 😂😂😂😂 these Compton niggaz are sad
James had charleston white shook😅😅😅I seen the footage
Tupac paying this guys rent
😂😂😂😂 exactly wait until suge get all they all gonna dissappear we already know james is a narc 😂😂😂😂 people are actually listening to this narc kills me inside dude never hung around pac 😂😂😂😂
Seems like pac is still paying all their bills especially bum first they even stole the name of his song and used it for a channel name ridiculous 😂😂😂😂
2Pac thought he knew about the gang life but found out when it was too late..Rest Well to the Hip Hop Legend!!
Look up the interview where he at the gun range. Pac literally says they can smoke him and he don't care and he was referring to gang banging politics. His words not mine. He didn't care to die that way
@@TheAirForceFly Apparently he didn't care he wasn't thinking correctly you and I know if Pac would've lived after that night he would've put it in a song how he punched a gang member and said come and get me if yall wanta war!!
@@undergroundheatcypher1091 on tattoo tears he mentions the crips when he referring to "i heard some niggas on the other side of town" and that was months before. So he wasn't oblivious to the beef between mob and southside
@@TheAirForceFly Didn't you read what I said he thought he knew about the gang life meaning the repercussions could end in death it wasn't obvious to him you trying to school me on something I already said fam!!
@@undergroundheatcypher1091 no im saying. I don't think it was too late. Just his time. He knew enough to push the line. And based on his history what he did to orlando was not shocking. If the man willing to disrespect them bangers in chicago over yumi then to punch orlando for violating one of his homies aint shit. He just got smoked over it
If he didn’t know or kick it with pac why speak on the man?
This man talk real game
Real talk James‼️
The sad truth
Tupac shouldn’t be a topic of discussion in 2023
😂😂😂😂 neither should the deathrow crash dummies narc james is a fbi agent this dude talks about the same stories mfs are broke rn😂😂😂😂
Narc james still attending church?😂😂😂😂😂
From what was shown, it wasnt that Tupac was looking to gang bang. It was that he was willing to be loyal to anyone he felt was loyal to him. It just so happened to be the guys he felt were loyal to him were gang bangers. I always felt he did what he did out of loyalty, not set trippin, but thats just how I perceived it.
The only time PAC dealt with them suckas is on stage at a concert. Don’t let them marks fool you like they was really around The Don Makaveli.
Blind Loyalty. That’s what that is.
Exactly this nigga is a hater, Tupac damn near the the only reason he getting interviewed, even beyond that grave he putting money in yo crab ass pocket
Tupac was a new York dude born and bred but he claimed L.A
He claimed Oakland
Dang it seem like bro died on some gang banging shit and they still say he ain't from there
Mob James say they dropped the ball but it still got active....ain't saying it's right...idk so what u think he died for
don't you get it, the real Pirus knew Orlando was a hitter, and would not have jumped him that way. Orlando didn't respect Tupac, and it was humiliating to be attacked by a rapper, who gang members think are less than them. It was insulting to him, and cause for extreme reaction, and Tupac got it.
2pac wasn’t from mob officially. He didn’t put in work like gang members are supposed to. He was accepted by some , but the truth is he wasn’t really a gangster. He died because he got caught up trying to imitate what he saw and rapped about. He was a very talented poet and rapper. R.I.P 2pac
@@Theshadiest1 I agree to extent but he never imitated anything. He was like that before deathrow and that was due to his environment and the way he grew up. When suge bailed him out of jail he felt loyalty for them he prolly would’ve put in work if he had that chance but it didn’t end well for him in the end. He wasn’t no gangsta he was a soldier which is better
@@Asvpsupreme yes exactly. Loyalty is a better way of putting it. He took flight on Orlando Anderson out of loyalty for death row and mob. The sad part about that is he lost his life because of that.
Drake and many rappers do this because they got money, it was like this in my hood too I agree it could never be done
Mobb right it’s a difference btwn being a Memba and being Affiliated
They still talking about pac... goat hé sure is
Real recognize real. It doesn't matter if Pac was from their hood. He was a real and loyal brother. Deathrow was full of bloods. He was apart of Deathrow. He was riding for them.
You’re missing the point bro. PAC was claiming their neighborhood. Which is what he’s basically breaking down.
@@villeboy3376 I think if Pac was the face of deathrow, out of loyalty he was supposed to represent their neighborhood.
@@villeboy3376 Stop it you Mark piru ain’t never came outta 2PAC mouth you suckaz looking for some representation
@@davidpean7952 when did Tupac represent their neighborhood stupid
"Tupac was with the business", " that don't make you from the hood" eventually pac would of got James respect.
bro is sticking to his code; respect for that.
2pac was riding who rode with him Just cause he shout out MoB doesn’t mean he was claiming the set
When did Tupac say he was from the mob piru ?
Somebody u met last month couldve been a better friend then someone u knew day 1.
Being a better friend doesn't mean he's part of the gang.
Mob James speakin facts they stay talkin about pac
Pac was saying MOB before Death row
He was saying Money Over Bitches M.O.B that’s not the same thing same MOB Piru 😂
@@MOBSquadGaming according To James it's the same meaning.
@@kabbalah111 yes he was
@ssg that’s what I meant
@@MOBSquadGaming that's what I mean he was saying money over bitches/MOB before death row but people think Pac was claiming Piru when I don't think he was
i recall when that happened; and i said the same thing then, what he is saying now. Tupac was not a Gangmember, and that culture is deeper than colors, and throwing setts etc
bruh. why keep pushin this false narrative?! Pac aint care about gang bangin, he was just loyal to who he felt was loyal to him. maybe to a fault.
How you know it’s false cause you seen a couple of interviews? You ain’t know pac behind the scenes and what he really was about. You fans act like you know him personally just from songs and interviews and when people who actually been around him come and speak the truth y’all talking about they lying.
Tupac wasn't from Compton, but he still had alot of street credibility, based on his, upbringing, lifestyle, and associations. There were all types of street guys and gangsters who weren't raised in Compton.
Thanks for telling the same story
WRONG
He might have not been mob james friend but every1 else listened to pac's music and was friends with Pac
EXACTLY. WHY WOULD THE HOMIES PUT A PAC TATTOO ON HIM AND BARELY KNEW HIM BUT NOT TAT THE DEAD HOMIES ON HIM?
He received money from 2pac and gang members don't pay each other too hang out
PAC’s been gone longer than he than was alive.
I get what he saying
Same, but them few months on DR pac did make a huge impact. Even mob James can't understand why his bro got 2pac tattooed on him and not the other homies.
He's a narc stop listening
Say only if Mob James only Knew that the hit was for Reggie then he wouldn’t see Reggie Jr or Sr in the same light as he does I was there at the shell the day that shit happened
Mmmm
I think he was jealous of Tupac until a few years ago, cause his stance has lightened up, but he feels he has to keep that “same energy” to a certain extent.
You don’t understand L.A. gang culture.
I am I big Tupac Fan n I agree with Mob James, imagine If Chris Brown passed Away N u start hearing Dudes like DJ QUICK start saying This . Would u think he was hating?
Yall fans always talking about somebody jealous
@@queenofnyc5584 I’m not a fan you weirdo… I just watch interviews and sometimes post my opinion in the comments
@@WessideVibez I never said I agreed or disagreed with what he was saying.
Some people come in your life and inspire you in a minute than how other people can affect your life to have them tattooed on your body
Respect to Mob James. But I like you to ask Mob James
1. Does he love Tupac songs? What's his favorite?
2. Does he love the fame Tupac brought to their set? Now that he is older. Brand value-wise
Life them beat this man tf up and Tupac is a legend he got the respect of the people he didn’t need yours
To me, this is no different than Monster going at Ice Cube. A lot of people didn't like when Monster was on Cube's helmet, but a dude who has put in A LOT of work don't take too kindly to someone getting what they got with none of the effort. Kind of like Aries Spears getting upset at the Kardashians's becoming super-rich with no talent, when he actually had to hone his craft over many years to not end with a quarter of what they got. I get it. Fans are just going to defend who they love, but that is what it is.
To be fair Ice Cube wasn't from the surbs neither he was living in the middle of the madness during that era
You right Mob. I will never understand how an outsider can become 'crew' outta no where without putting in some work. You not hating Mob, you just know/understand the code of camaraderie. H.P. for life.
💯
Getting a 2pac tattoo on your body and not your real homies is wild. Weirdo stuff.
The conclusion is Tupac is just a studio gangsta'
Facts!!!
2pac was the goat but Brother James is 100% right tho....
As much as I hear what he saying. Pac used MOB
It didn’t turn out well for him. But he used them! He needed a army to combat all his enemies and found one through suge.
He touch their lives
This man is a informant.. wore a wire
MOB James is right, they should have let the guys they pay to handle it
Why did u become a informant????????
7, 8 months! That part!
And made more of an impact then this dude will in 70-80 years.
Pac stans lac, rationality
@@SWOTHDRA He never said anything like that!!! Tupac did not know who was a real hitter or not, and that put him in Danger!!
And he took the world over in that time frame crazy
@@ILoveTheAllCreator pac haters are the ones who lack rational. Pac is harder than James at all levels, and Pac took care of Orlando, it’ was his crew that was lagging.
2Pac was M.O.B. for his loyalty to Suge.
Not because of his money.
Tupac shouldn't join blood gang member is bad situation very bad situation
Did you understand he never a blood he is associated with the bloods
@@angelbustos7019 yeah right
@@matthewbush2371 I was around that time I used to hang out with death row records I was on of the music producer for them.
@@angelbustos7019 is that right was like angel hanging with suge and gang members
@@matthewbush2371 Hell yeah I was a bad mothefucker
Do this guy realize that the only reason people listen to him and the only reason he has a platform is because of Tupac. Nobody is interested in his lifestyle at all. Dude needs to thank Pac for getting him paid today.
Tupac at 25 is not an ideal age for joining a gang.
MJ right 👍🏾
Bro only reason I feel like that analogy is flawed is because Orlando wasn’t gonna jus say pac didn’t jump him so he was gonna pass him and go find who shot him.Orlando was out for the kill that night
Facts.
Buntry seems interesting