Britain's NEWEST LOCO! Betton Grange DEBUT DELIGHTS
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
- Enjoy a run behind the crowd pulling HEADLINE ACT, making her DEBUT at this year’s Gloucester & Warwickshire ‘Western Workhorses’ Spring Steam Gala!
GWR new build Grange 6880 ‘Betton Grange’, fresh out the box from Tyseley works hauling her inaugural passenger trains at the event, taking us on a ride along the Cotswolds between Cheltenham Racecourse - Toddington | 27.05.2024
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Marvellous effort getting this locomotive completed and running. Congratulations to everyone involved.
I m no fan of the GWR but the last two Swindon products that I rode behind back in 1965,in regular service,were 2 Granges 6859,railtour,and 6815(I think) on a Gloucester-Cardiff parcels train,this was on 4/10/65 so I ve always had a soft spot for these 4-6-0s.Well done to all for building Betton Grange.
I am so pleased that the Grange has been resurrected. They weren't glamorous like Castles and I barely used to give them a second glance when I saw them in the late 50s and early 60s. But at least they weren't those moguls. What would I give to have paid better attention. I do remember one charging down Dauntsey bank with its tender wobbling from side to side.
Extraordinary. Building new steam locomotives in 21 st century.
It is like using windmills for electricity when we have nuclear fission. Ratchet in a good way
Incredible as it may seem, Betton Grange is already no longer Britain's newest locomotive- 32424 Beachy Head moved under its own power for the very first time yesterday!
Great footage. Betton Grange has got to be one of my favourite engines. The engineers have done a superb job.
Great video!
Nice to see a varied collection of GW locos especially the star of the show,( and nice to see a Scammel Scarab put in an appearance at the end!)
My favourite loco, just great to have a working example. Congrats to all those who made it possible
Great!!!
Wow fabulous !! I didn’t know this had been built … another fabulous addition to our steam heritage, and a new old station as well …
Building these old,fashioned locomotives is a great way to provide amazing engineering skills to young people. Unlike my own field, electronics where everything is becoming more abstract, you have to make everything unless you outsource everything to farming China 😡😡😡😡
Betton grange of course is a 3rd new build engine after lady of legend in 2019 and tornado in 2008
The sad thing is that the first new build steam loco should have been the LNWR Large Bloomer 2-2-2 that has been sitting 90% complete at Tyseley since 1990 - if work hadn't been suspended for unknown reasons she would have been running long before Tornado.
@@kenattwood8060yes I know Ken
What a very pleasing, relaxing video to watch. England's green and pleasant land gliding by, interesting exchanges and of course the sounds of the engine itself. What a shame it and the down train were both coupled back to front. . Presumable both will be the "right way round" for their return journeys but at what appears to be a quite extensive yard at the end of the video I wonder why there was no turntable there.
British patriots need to wake up and take a stand if we’re going to keep our green and pleasant land
I concur entirely ,and it’s annoying. I’ve been telling people for years ,train is being pulled by locomotive or engine. Like Douglas Bader was told,’ never never call it a plane ..It’s an aeroplane’!
Absolutely delighted with the continuing big interest in saving and appreciating these magnificent British Steam engineering marvels.
(Lump in throat now). 😊
As we have not had the chance to take a journey on this line as yet it would have been nice to have had some commentary and at the very least the names of the stations it was stopping at. You have missed a great opportunity to promote this heritage line as well as the engine to a wide range of potential future passengers
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And engines with trains leave from and arrive at RAILWAY stations not train stations!
Scream it as loud as you can for the "modern" term is train station and I find it as jarring as you do.
Or ‘Calling Points’…. 🫣🤪😟
I’ve given up on that now. Train station seems to be embedded in our language now.
Just a slight correction - we need to get things right. Betton Grange is an ENGINE, a TRAIN is what it pulls!
This habit which is simply laziness, of calling a locomotive or railway engine a 'train' really bugs me.
It’s actually a locomotive. The engine is the bit that drives the wheels and makes it move.
On that topic, who prefers, railway station, railway line, railwayman to the "modern" train station, train line, trainman? I prefer the former being a dinosaur but "somewhere along the line" things in the UK changed.
I prefer railway station / railway line.
I’m 40 and always remember getting told to stay off the railway line
It bugs the arse off me too, just call it the correct thing, it’s not difficult.
I'd love my DI (driving instructor from Salisbury, now retired), to see her or especially to fire her. He said that they were his favourite engines to fire when they got the odd chance at Salisbury in the 60s. No doubt he got chance for the odd drive too.
as there are no coaches attached it is an ENGINE or locomotive...not a train!!!!
The pedantry is strong with this one
@@PolishThatHandle346So it should be.
So what is the camera fixed to if not a bit of rolling stock?😉 Looks very like a coach to me!
@@johndrew3202Yes. The camera moved relative to the locomotive. So it must be on the train.
Er, surely "it is an ENGINE" should more traditionally be "she is an ENGINE"? lol :)
Betton Grange’s paint job is pretty good; unusual to see the smoke box door look like a mirror!
I went there on the Saturday, which seemed to be the best of three weatherwise:
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Trying to remember what they built this out of now, wasn't most parts from a scrapyard condition hall ?
Nice Vid, good luck with the Hybrid Betton! Looks cool. One thing i would like to point out, not being pedantic. Betton is not a "Train* or ever will be. It is a Locomotive or Steam Engine. A Proud one at that. The Train is what it pulls surely?. Coaches and Wagons are the Train. I thought everyone knew that? Doing vids like you should talk in Terms of it's rightful status.
I wonder if she'll run on the mainline or will she be confined to preserved railways only. The Granges had the same size cylinders as the Halls but with smaller driving wheels of the same size as a Manor of 5'8" as against the Halls 6' they had better "punch". The original Granges were built using parts from withdrawn 43xx moguls.
I should have added that it sounds like a proper engine. As much as I love the Southern West Countries, their breathy sound doesn't come up to the proper bark of a Grange, Hall or Castle or Black 5.
Looks like an engine to me. Are there some new carriages, too?
Cant make my mind up about this! It looks and sounds like a GWR locomotive, like most of the other GWR locomotives. Only differences are its name and number plates. It cost a lot of time money to build this Grange replica, was it really worth it, apart from it being a brand new locomotive? Im a GWR fan, and have been for many years, but the jury is still out for me.
What does it burn. Ever thought of burning hydrogen, more energy than coal
Just try being grateful !!!
Im sure the people who put their time, sweat, and love into building a new locomotive for us all to enjoy could care less if your jury is out.
@@owentaylor9884dont be so stupid
@@owentaylor9884 Also more expensive,requires specialised pressurised kit etc etc. This is about traditional steam locomotives in Britain.
The Headline says Loco, what's the problem?
The right noun seems to be the hardest one to write. Or get right! What’s wrong?
The video of this lovely engine is great, with one criticism. The snifting valve doesn't sound right, when the engine is coasting. It should have a nice rhythmic quiet whistling sound. It should not be going snick, snack, snick, snack. Completely un-prototypical.
Its still early days in its operation, so let's see if the guys maintaining Betton Grange can correct it.
What does it burn? Ever thought about hydrogen, more efficient than coal.
It's a STEAM locomotive, not a bloody tractor.
@JohnSmith-pd1fz it could still burn hydrogen which could provide more steam quicker.
++@@owentaylor9884++ I think you are missing the point mate. This is a COAL FIRED steam locomotive which means, steam, smoke, heat, engine noises, smells, dust, dirt, grime and all the rest. Nowhere does gas or any kind feature in that process. Nor should it!
@@owentaylor9884 do you not know how dangerous hydrogen is?
If you can find a hydrogen mine. Not many round here - you have to make it, which consumes energy.
I came here for beautiful GWR engines not ugly, vile USAF killing machines. Leave them out please.
Whilst it's great to see another steam loco up and running, i do think that the Great Western family resemblance makes them a little boring!!
If you make the hydrogen to order, it is not.
@owentaylor: Have you actually sat down and thought about what you're saying? Hydrogen is, absurdly expensive, dangerous and utterly impractical as things stand.
However, that's NOT the issue. Steam locomotives like this beautiful Grange are COAL FIRED. Always have been, always will be. It's an essential part of their existence. The smells, the heat, even the smuts are what they are.
If you want to play with the Hindenburg, or the R-101, go ahead. You're missing the essential point here.
Personally, I'm delighted that were getting some new locos. The engineering skills needed to create these beauties will serve us well into the future!
Electrolysis.
Yes! Please everyone try electrolysis to get rid on unwanted body hair! Especially the pubes! Not sue what this has to do with the video, but thank you Owen for the reminder!
They absolutely not good for the eyes because of sparks and insults from real steam engines also please move head back in carriage
The most painful thing I ever got in my eye when looking out of a carriage window was a smut from a diesel back in 1958.
I'm guessing you have never roaded a steam roller or traction-engine. They move so slowly that all the shit from the chimney just falls straight down on you!