Can we talk about Sadhaak being amazing, specially against other IGLs that are rated higher than him? With 2 different coaching staffs? Common plat chat
FOrgive me, but I don't know Avast that well, but this man is COOKING with the comedy and metaphors... VCT Productions , (i know you guys watch plat chat) get avast and give him the bag, let him cook
@@TheTechReactorEven with those guys S is too high. Victor, crashies and marved were more or less mid most of last year. Ethan only got really good playing under potter and boostio, and they wouldn't have a proven igl.
Ethan is a very proven player, he was one of the best in NA in CS and is regarded as a really good, thoughtful and useful initiator, him having good players around him really makes his util shine. Victor is a player who works very well with players like Demon1, he is willing to sacrifice his stats (hence he seems 'mid' a lot of the time) in order to create space for great 'fighters' he could basically be a second Jawgemo, he proved it with Yay in 2022. Similar with crashies, also when it comes to Marved he didn't have much scrim time with SEN and was coming back to IGLing after a long time of inactivity and an even longer time not IGLing. Trust me there is a lot of potential with these guys
I really don't get where all this Avast praise is coming from, was he really funny in Overwatch? Seems like a nice enough guy but every time he's talked about it's like he's the comedic second coming of Christ and I don't see it
As a korean I'm impressed with Bren being able to read hangul despite only having used duolingo for a bit. My goat right there EDIT: 9:22 for those that are curious
He has casted Overwatch League before, where there are many korean players. That might be the reason he picked korean. Jake, a caster for OWL, and an ex player and coach, also picked Korean and has decent conversational skills.
The way we’re putting NRG in S tier off of hypotheticals whose core team didn’t make much impact last year to Loud, who’s core has consistently proven themselves is absurd
@@HaydenDom loud kept 4 players and not 2, and with these 4 players we will beat 99% of the other teams so that next year they will underestimate loud again, lol
I have been on the Lakia pill forever. That dude is INSANE and IMO was the best initiator of 2020?? Like he was so good and he got pushed aside even with him carrying his teams.
Fr The boys are generally a bit NA biased which I understand but then out of nowhere Zeta is a tier above C9 and over FUT in A despite beating both teams recently and FUT beating DRX
I'll never forgive you guys for putting Navi AND FUCKING NRG IN S tier.. both team's core players did not look good last season why are they even in S while loud is in A??? even with loud losing aspas they can't be in S tier ffs
I didn't even know that tex got kicked from the G2 / Guard roster. I thought HE wanted to look out for other possibilities. I like the G2 Counter-Strike team and I actually rooted for The Guard a lot during Ascension and the season, but tex was one of their best players and so important with his entries and G2 looked so bad against Oxygen and Sentinels in the last weeks, too. So I guess it was the best for tex, who is a great player and def. will get used to the Sentinel role after a while. Also - he plays together with aspas from now on - one of my absolute fav. players and so for me it's easy, which team I'm rooting for. LEV is going to destroy G2 in the season for sure. Can't wait to watch that match. Let's go tex, let's go aspas, let's go LEV!
another year and this is happening again, I think loud has to win all the tournaments in the year to go to the S tier, I know that we lost aspas but at this point this is a meme because we are going far next again.
You placed Furia in A tier and recently Global Esports defeated Furia with a stand-in. So, I think they look decent. They should easily grab A or B tier with some more practice..
NaVi Tier S, Loud Tier A...plat chat have this name for one reason i can see...someday Loud will be Tier S, maybe if they win one more title they can be finally S material :v
You guys put GE in F tier and thats fine though i am a GE fan and an indian cause atleast you guys put them into tier according to your own views and didn't put it in something higher just to gain a lot of easy support and following 😂
If Lakia has 1000 fans, I am one of them, if Lakia has 1 fan, then I am that one, if Lakia has no fans, that means I no longer exist on this world. (In all seriousness though, I hope he plays well. I hope his stock will rise after such a long time)
How is NAVI S tier after Ardiis joined and NRG also S tier above LOUD. What did these 2 teams achieve last season 😭😭 Also u guys need to invite TMV so sliggy have a guy to debate about EMEA and APAC teams. Better than him giving a rating and others are just "yes/agree" man.
Boostio isn't someone nrg are looking for they want Ethan to igl which i think he could do but still i don't think any team consisting of victor without all the of fns marved and yay should ever be s tier. Vic is one of the worst tier 1 NA players that aren't igling
@@2_tennis dude victor stinks man, the dude is so mid but they can't get rid of him cause then crashies would go too. It got so bad that som and FNS left (maybe not directly cause of victor but there were Def clashes in what players they wanted to keep and change). He's just so mid but he's always surrounded by some of the best players so you can't see how low impact he really is. I think I've only ever attributed a map win against a strong team to victor a few times and that was back during his peak on Duelist almost 2 years ago
This is the worst Tier List I've ever seen. Levi an Fnatic is fair. NAVI that didn't play anything this year, only made it to the championships because of the place that Fnatic got for MEMEA, it's in TIER S just because they brought ARDIIS, one of the biggest disappointments of VCT Americas???? NRG, NA's favorite team, has 3 players and no one knows who the other 2 will be and due to an ASSUMPTION, they are in the S. Which is funny, because no one knows the EG team either and they put them in the Tier F, same weight in two measurements. G2 in Tier A doesn't make any sense, the team moves up through Ascencion and is already in Tier A without having proven itself in anything yet. Furia is ok, I would accept putting them lower too, but A Tier is ok. Sentinels... the little crystal of NA, Sacy and Zekken sunk in a team that didn't win, doesn't win and won't win anything. This team in Tier A is bullshit. KRU had the worst campaign this year, but in all games it was competitive, much more than MIBR for example, I understand putting it in low rankings, but below Bleed, Karmine Corp, Giants, Gentle Mates it makes 0 sense. Now the most absurd, although predictable: Loud Tier A. EVERY year Loud is placed below the top teams even, every year, with changes in the squad, Loud proves itself capable and worthy of being Tier S. Cauanzin, Less and Saadhak are outside the curve, the best in their positions ( Less mainly), and because Aspas left, which is a big loss, does Loud stop being a strong team? It doesn't make any sense. Pancada and Sacy left and Loud proved capable of performing in every way, she was runner-up in the Lock In, Champion of the 1st VCT Americas (cry NA), horrible in Tokyo and 3rd in the Champions with the most difficult run winning 2x the So far the best team of the year, Fnatic. You can't take these NA casters seriously, they are self-centered, they only look at their own navels. Sentinels: Horrible campaign, change of roles, didn't win anything - Tier A due to 1 contracted player. Loud: VCT Americas champion, Lock In runner-up and 3rd in Champions - Tier A because 1 player left. I give up following these guys. They drool too much for themselves.
If a team is ready to buy monyet bcz they know they can win with him then there is GE sold their best man to a sub. Removed their best indian player and kept chomu god save them
I think LOUD has a contract with platchat to guarantee that they will always underestimate them in tier lists and thus avoid being jixed.
@GumbicaThe only crazy part is Navi being S while Loud is A
Can we talk about Sadhaak being amazing, specially against other IGLs that are rated higher than him? With 2 different coaching staffs? Common plat chat
@@David-du4mjcuz NAVI is a Master winning roster meanwhile LOUD lost their best player
LOL
@@OfficialKman5625their best player by far is Less not aspas
Wyatt got the sliggy laugh on the "superdome" joke which is the hallmark of a banger joke
could you possibly explain the joke? i dont get it
FOrgive me, but I don't know Avast that well, but this man is COOKING with the comedy and metaphors... VCT Productions , (i know you guys watch plat chat) get avast and give him the bag, let him cook
Avast is a content god but unfortunately he has allegiance to Overwatch still 💀
@@mckinleyostvig7135we’ve lost Bren and Sideshow man just let us have Avast at least
@@mckinleyostvig7135he’s also contracted by misfits he’s dickomode’s boy
Navi tier s? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
bruh how nrg can be s tier
DAMN Chunky 3 hour podcast. Back to the old days this is great 😆
WyattがZETAベタ褒めなの嬉しいな笑
NRG in S is absurd
With Demon1 and Ethan it's pretty correct.
@@TheTechReactorEven with those guys S is too high. Victor, crashies and marved were more or less mid most of last year. Ethan only got really good playing under potter and boostio, and they wouldn't have a proven igl.
Ethan is a very proven player, he was one of the best in NA in CS and is regarded as a really good, thoughtful and useful initiator, him having good players around him really makes his util shine. Victor is a player who works very well with players like Demon1, he is willing to sacrifice his stats (hence he seems 'mid' a lot of the time) in order to create space for great 'fighters' he could basically be a second Jawgemo, he proved it with Yay in 2022. Similar with crashies, also when it comes to Marved he didn't have much scrim time with SEN and was coming back to IGLing after a long time of inactivity and an even longer time not IGLing. Trust me there is a lot of potential with these guys
@@skaternoa26 calling crashies mid is crazy.
they put zeta on A, this whole early tier list just they put random shit
I agree about trexx man , he deserves to be on top 3 emea org man, he's just consistently good. They're wasting his talent
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We need Avast in VALORANT again so bad.
yupppp
I really don't get where all this Avast praise is coming from, was he really funny in Overwatch? Seems like a nice enough guy but every time he's talked about it's like he's the comedic second coming of Christ and I don't see it
As a korean I'm impressed with Bren being able to read hangul despite only having used duolingo for a bit. My goat right there
EDIT: 9:22 for those that are curious
Could you timestamp when he dies that?
Could you timestamp when he dies that?
Could you timestamp when he dies that?
duolingo is pretty helpful! like from my experience, i use duolingo 60-90 minutes every night and I can read hiragana and katakana in 2 weeks
He has casted Overwatch League before, where there are many korean players. That might be the reason he picked korean. Jake, a caster for OWL, and an ex player and coach, also picked Korean and has decent conversational skills.
WTFFF IS AVAST WEARING ???? FLORIDA MUTINEERS CREWNECK WITH A NAME YOUR PRICE CIGARETTE HAT???
The way we’re putting NRG in S tier off of hypotheticals whose core team didn’t make much impact last year to Loud, who’s core has consistently proven themselves is absurd
two players isn’t a core and they lost the best duelist in the world
@@HaydenDom loud kept 4 players and not 2, and with these 4 players we will beat 99% of the other teams so that next year they will underestimate loud again, lol
loud is tier s, you only put it in tier A because it is a Brazilian team and not a European one
@@MrSuperboss72for real
Took the words right out of my mouth, the disrespect for LOUD is insane.
I have been on the Lakia pill forever. That dude is INSANE and IMO was the best initiator of 2020?? Like he was so good and he got pushed aside even with him carrying his teams.
they basically talk about americas for 90% of the time mfs get some pacific analysts
How the FUCK is NAVI, NRG and DRX on S tier and Loud isnt???????
os cara são maluco jonny
LOUD without Aspas
Navi and drx on S as potential seems very very fair, nrg is still too unknown! The fact that loud isn’t S is very much underrating
zetaは一生下位tier評価でいい
俺らが見たいのはそこからの逆転劇よ
ill always have faith when vitality is involved there teams are always good in every esport their in
Wyatt and Zeta are the opposite of Josh and Karmine Corp
Fr
The boys are generally a bit NA biased which I understand but then out of nowhere Zeta is a tier above C9 and over FUT in A despite beating both teams recently and FUT beating DRX
Faker my Goat, so inspirational 😎
GE IN F TIER DEFEATING FUR IN B TIER EVEN WITH A SUBSTITUTE WHO HASENT PLAYED FOR LIKE AN YEAR
As a zeta fan in jpn, I'm very glad they put zeta in A tier. I hope zeta plays well in 2024
This had me cracking up
6 man roster diiid work with T1 in league with Faker and Easyhoon
I'll never forgive you guys for putting Navi AND FUCKING NRG IN S tier.. both team's core players did not look good last season why are they even in S while loud is in A??? even with loud losing aspas they can't be in S tier ffs
Avast is just so much fun on every episode he’s on. Love seeing him as a part of the crew again.
even if its way too early but man what is this tier list, its all over the place
Imo SEN is way too high. They are super unproven and I could see them losing to a bunch of those other A or even B teams.
NRG lost to Bilibili somehow on S 😮
Should have invited TMV too. The Guy watches every region. He knows more about EMEA/APAC more than these platchat guys.
They cooked GE😂😂
They really did😂
I didn't even know that tex got kicked from the G2 / Guard roster. I thought HE wanted to look out for other possibilities. I like the G2 Counter-Strike team and I actually rooted for The Guard a lot during Ascension and the season, but tex was one of their best players and so important with his entries and G2 looked so bad against Oxygen and Sentinels in the last weeks, too. So I guess it was the best for tex, who is a great player and def. will get used to the Sentinel role after a while. Also - he plays together with aspas from now on - one of my absolute fav. players and so for me it's easy, which team I'm rooting for. LEV is going to destroy G2 in the season for sure. Can't wait to watch that match. Let's go tex, let's go aspas, let's go LEV!
This guy put crashies and victor above sen and above LOUD??? WHAT IN GODS NAME ARE THEY SMOKING???
Global with a substitute beating Furia, what do you think about your tier list now Plat Chat🌝
gentle mates is behind fnatic at least or first !
another year and this is happening again, I think loud has to win all the tournaments in the year to go to the S tier, I know that we lost aspas but at this point this is a meme because we are going far next again.
owned those GE frauds
If DRX Lev and a THREE MAN TEAM INCLUDING VIC AND CRASHIES IS S, then Sen and loud should also be up there.
RIP Wyatt's Breaking Bad trivia career. It was season 1 episode 5.
2:01:20 #GE_FIGHTING 💪
Lul
Are you guys gonna briefly talk about PRX who played in valorant connexion in next weeks episode?
Are teams allowed to sub in players between maps in the vct?
yes
Losing FNS is rough, but having Crashies, Victor, Marved, and Chet back together will be INSANE
I stopped watching when I saw a team with horrible members in Tier S 😂
SEN make more sense in S than NRG does 😭
Who came with the Harbor + Viper stuff was Saadhak
#justiceforGE
Nah we deserved that
#gefightingforlastspot
A tier Furia defeated by F tier GE 😂😂 That too with a substitute
a great one
Nrg and navi in S and Loud in A 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You placed Furia in A tier and recently Global Esports defeated Furia with a stand-in. So, I think they look decent. They should easily grab A or B tier with some more practice..
NaVi on S while Loud is A? wtf? how much they gotta win to prove S lol
They lose aspas lol and then they are A tier at best
@@muzy8768 lets wait and see
And btw they already updated the list with loud on S xD
1:58:40 is just the greatest and why i will always love this show they are just absolutely yapping
i think c9 was heavily underrated in this, esp w their performance against fnc with curry as a sub
Ye true especially after redbull homeground. Drx which they put S tier was stomped by fnc and c9 put up a much bettet performance
TS VS DRX 😔...
King in t1 King in levietan why so many kings
I do not get GentleM8s being that high at all. Them in the same tier as Liquid and Vitality is wild to me.
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2024魅せてくれzeta
Until saadhak retires the team he is on is S-tier
Do we expect boostio to be a good IGL without the EG coaching staff?
NaVi Tier S, Loud Tier A...plat chat have this name for one reason i can see...someday Loud will be Tier S, maybe if they win one more title they can be finally S material :v
2:22:04 ZETA
TEAM SECRET > ALL VALORANT TEAM
As a fellow pilipino,u are smoking my mam
How do you make money talking about something you don't understand?
Ahhh another hard day being Global esports fan
finally a 3 hr video
You guys put GE in F tier and thats fine though i am a GE fan and an indian cause atleast you guys put them into tier according to your own views and didn't put it in something higher just to gain a lot of easy support and following 😂
NRG will get Deamon1 and then FNS will be so hyped about the roster that he will swallow his pride and return
If Lakia has 1000 fans, I am one of them, if Lakia has 1 fan, then I am that one, if Lakia has no fans, that means I no longer exist on this world. (In all seriousness though, I hope he plays well. I hope his stock will rise after such a long time)
Sidhu Moose Wala
Sscary and crazyguy also fucking good
Just me or does WYATY sound like WestJett
How is NAVI S tier after Ardiis joined and NRG also S tier above LOUD. What did these 2 teams achieve last season 😭😭 Also u guys need to invite TMV so sliggy have a guy to debate about EMEA and APAC teams. Better than him giving a rating and others are just "yes/agree" man.
No one is talking about the possibility for NRG to sign Demon1 and Boostio as their IGL? It would be insane, Crashies-Victor-Marved-Demon1-Boostio
You do forget that EG keeping their players in contract jail still?
@@ChangerYK ‘possibility’
Boostio isn't someone nrg are looking for they want Ethan to igl which i think he could do but still i don't think any team consisting of victor without all the of fns marved and yay should ever be s tier.
Vic is one of the worst tier 1 NA players that aren't igling
@@343JustMeblud is waffling wtf is he talking about
@@2_tennis dude victor stinks man, the dude is so mid but they can't get rid of him cause then crashies would go too. It got so bad that som and FNS left (maybe not directly cause of victor but there were Def clashes in what players they wanted to keep and change).
He's just so mid but he's always surrounded by some of the best players so you can't see how low impact he really is.
I think I've only ever attributed a map win against a strong team to victor a few times and that was back during his peak on Duelist almost 2 years ago
@ me when vitality are the no.1 team in EMEA next year
LOUD IN A AND NRG IN S, WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
NO WAY EG. DAMN (F??)
When does the new season actually begin??
KC looks like an EG at the begging of the year...
the only one from LEV i doubt a lot is Nozwerr
Bro ge dosent deserve F like F++??????????
Ζのロースターは下げると危険www
KC C tier hmm i am getting a dejavue
This is the worst Tier List I've ever seen.
Levi an Fnatic is fair.
NAVI that didn't play anything this year, only made it to the championships because of the place that Fnatic got for MEMEA, it's in TIER S just because they brought ARDIIS, one of the biggest disappointments of VCT Americas????
NRG, NA's favorite team, has 3 players and no one knows who the other 2 will be and due to an ASSUMPTION, they are in the S. Which is funny, because no one knows the EG team either and they put them in the Tier F, same weight in two measurements.
G2 in Tier A doesn't make any sense, the team moves up through Ascencion and is already in Tier A without having proven itself in anything yet.
Furia is ok, I would accept putting them lower too, but A Tier is ok.
Sentinels... the little crystal of NA, Sacy and Zekken sunk in a team that didn't win, doesn't win and won't win anything. This team in Tier A is bullshit.
KRU had the worst campaign this year, but in all games it was competitive, much more than MIBR for example, I understand putting it in low rankings, but below Bleed, Karmine Corp, Giants, Gentle Mates it makes 0 sense.
Now the most absurd, although predictable: Loud Tier A.
EVERY year Loud is placed below the top teams even, every year, with changes in the squad, Loud proves itself capable and worthy of being Tier S. Cauanzin, Less and Saadhak are outside the curve, the best in their positions ( Less mainly), and because Aspas left, which is a big loss, does Loud stop being a strong team? It doesn't make any sense. Pancada and Sacy left and Loud proved capable of performing in every way, she was runner-up in the Lock In, Champion of the 1st VCT Americas (cry NA), horrible in Tokyo and 3rd in the Champions with the most difficult run winning 2x the So far the best team of the year, Fnatic.
You can't take these NA casters seriously, they are self-centered, they only look at their own navels.
Sentinels: Horrible campaign, change of roles, didn't win anything - Tier A due to 1 contracted player.
Loud: VCT Americas champion, Lock In runner-up and 3rd in Champions - Tier A because 1 player left.
I give up following these guys. They drool too much for themselves.
I think c 9 with curry and oxy is like A
maybe T1 A
Bro I missed avast. He was on top form for this episode.
i am a pauser during comp rounds listener
I like zeta
this is going to age like milk
north american diff
im on zeta cope with wyatt😂
Deadlock is still terrible in ranked
ZETA win
2:01:04 -- GE Global Esports
If a team is ready to buy monyet bcz they know they can win with him then there is GE sold their best man to a sub. Removed their best indian player and kept chomu god save them
Bro should become an analyst
😂😂😂😂😂😂 muita dó de vcs
So isso... muita dó
sliggy makes me sleepy
where is EDG?
navi... on S tier...