Falling off Mount Fuji on Live Stream
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- Опубліковано 28 гру 2024
- The in-depth story of Tetsu Shiohara, the man who fell off Mount Fuji. At the top of Mount Fuji, a lonely stage 4 cancer patient struggles with freezing conditions. He has no winter clothing or safety equipment. Tetsu Shiohara livestreams his climb, but his viewers can hardly imagine what they are about to witness...
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I think he wanted to die, despite saying that he was going to return that same day. He knew what he was getting into.
definetly ... !
He went out doing something that he loved, interacting with the only friends he had rather than dying a slow, painful death in hospital after inevitably losing his battle with cancer. So yeah, absolutely agree
He went out doing something that he loved, interacting with the only friends he had rather than dying a slow, painful death in hospital after inevitably losing his battle with cancer. So yeah, absolutely agree
thats what that person said ...
I love how people today are so braindead they have no idea what cancer is or what it does to you. He had no future. He wanted to climb this fucking mountain and he did it.
A dying man, decided to climb Mt Fuji without the proper equipment. I'm sorry, but this was deliberate.
Don't be sorry. Things happen to people and we observe, just human things ya know
No sh:t Sherlock. Literally everyone who watches this video will figure that out instantly.
@@JakeKoenigwatched this video for 3.5 seconds and instantly figured it out, you're totally right.
Thank you I left my eyes and ears at home today
Are you a wizard?
Dude went up a mountain instead of waiting for cancer to take him out. Given the choice, I'd probably choose the mountain, too.
Yes, or something else from the hypothetical bucket list. I climbed Mt Shasta when I was a kid...over 50 years ago now - wouldn't mind climbing it again before my ride comes as John Trudell said before he checked out - miss that guy's music and poetry performances....
Doubt it
Yes, I'd do the same. I'd rather die in nature than a hospital, if given the choice and knowing death was imminent.
As a cancer survivor myself, If I was stage 4, I'd likely take it as well.
This comment section deserves darwin award
I always see people online making fun of this man calling him stupid and saying he deserved it, and I just think their absolutely F***** up inside, this man went out with a bang instead of cancer, he was gonna die anyway, his last moments were probably his best and I salute to that, he’s braver then all the people that made fun of him.
He could have done better use of his last days. And not to end his life before time.
@@DaveDGMan was already dead with stage 4 cancer
@@pasqualevalerioti3510 he was still able to walk, to hike. He could still smell life. He could have done that adventure properly, with the right tools and timing, and maybe also other adventures after that, before dying from cancer.. instead of being reckless and die for a fall.
I don’t know man..
He’s climbing a 14,000 foot mountain
He had some life left
Early departure
@@DaveDG dave, i'm sure you could have found a better way to spend your time than judging somebody for dying, if you want to dig into other peoples lives and peel back the layers, you'll probably find some shit that shouldn't be held against him. i've never seen anyone judge somebody with a lot of misery in their lives for dying
I talked to an alpinist once about my amateur experience climbing the most simple rocky slopes. He told me just one thing: "When your fear tells you to stop, then stop and make your way back, on all four, if necessary.". Best advice I ever got. There is no room for error on a mountain and if you don't have the experience to do it safely, then don't do it at all.
Teaching my niece and nephew I always told them "there is never any shame in scooting on your butt if that keeps you from falling"
@@4amcripple Safety scoot. I grew up in the mountains and I've worked on them professionally for 6 winters. The safety scoot is an approved method.
Mountains have no mercy. It doesnt matter how experienced you are, decision making is everything. Get too tired, too cold, too hungry, you lose cognitive power, you make a mistake and you die.
Taking a fall, running out of water and getting lost. Those 3 things are the cause of 90% of the deaths of hikers. Add in the weather and that's the other 10%.
@@JarthenGreenmeadow what % are bears
this comment can save a life. thx for taking the time to post this kind stranger ❤
Single, no job, failed school, and financially supported by his parents at 40 years old with stage 4 cancer. He was definitely depressed.
u missed the whole story. when he doed he was 50. That 40 was for 10 years ago when he first got divorced and his cancer started at stage 1 but he didnt notice
@@Roxana_Officialsources online say he was 42
I am single. Not affiliated with a school. Unemployed. Retaking a test I took in 1990 because there was no ‘electronic code for it to be distributed’. Ample reason to be depressed. But I am taking it again 9/14/24. It’s the ‘daily tread’ to happiness.
Good for you and good luck! @@slowlybutshelly
Especially those Japanese women are totally hypergamy.
Culturally the women want very rich & successful men.
He had an extremely uphill climb.
Tetsu talked about going home afterwards, but his actions were far more in line with someone who was hoping to die. He deliberately went abysmally unprepared all the way around despite knowing the increased danger. He actively and repeatedly ignored the numerous warnings and blockades set up to prevent further passage. He mentioned many times how dangerous the conditions were and how his body was adversely reacting to those conditions but actively chose to ignore all of that and continue on. He chose to shrug off the *much better prepared couple near the summit who specifically said they were not adequately prepared to go any further* and continued upward. All of that combined goes far beyond mere bravado or a series of unfortunate mistakes. It's like he intentionally stacked the deck against himself to the point where a fatal "accident" was unavoidable.
I got the feeling Tetsu's end goal was to peacefully succumb to the elements on the summit of the mountain he held so dear before his cancer got the chance to take him, but the fall happened before he reached his intended final resting spot.
@@--_--IMP--_-- did he give "home" an address? Maybe home was death?
@@carlamarlene2927 I was about to say the same thing. Home was probably his final resting place.
I think it was more of knowing he was going to die anyway and deciding to risk things knowing that it didn’t matter if the climb killed him, as he was gonna die one way or another.
I really don't think he was planning to die, he was just being reckless as a beginner climber. Used to be in mountains all the time and crossed many death just like this. People being careless and stupid. I've done my share but little mistakes thought me. When you're advancing towards your goal, it's very easy to ignore the warning signs and have false hopes of coming back. If not by falling, he would have lost his way with a dead phone and slowly froze to death. He didn't think this through at all.
@@purpleblueunicorn he may not have planned his death but he made zero precautions to prevent it
Poor guy. Having stage 4 cancer is more than just rough but he didn't complain and smiled. He probably lived his life not the way he wanted but till the end he made the best of it and lived it to the fullest. He had more courage than I probably will ever have. I can't imagine the fear he must had felt slipping down the mountain.
This is just so sad. I hope that it was over for him fast and that he is now in a better place.
I love your positivity. But I think dude just was miserable, he was almost 50 and lived most life off of parents support money, as the narrator said god knows what his mental state was.
Positivity is actually something that increases cancer by alot.
So many people are so obsessed with this idea of positivity.
Like you can't complain or always have to smile.
All that does is make you lie to yourself and move your further away from your most authentic self.
And that's extremely harmful for the body.
@@TheBontekraaiwtf, lol.
Being miserable boosts cancer, not being happy
@@P1T4Bot being happy and being positive are not the same thing.
So you think you have to be happy al the time?
@@TheBontekraai yes, I think that should be everyones goal
He almost made it to the summit of Mount Fuji off-season with no gear. That was a hell of a good climb. 👍
That’s a fact…
He cheated his fall far sooner
But there was netting in the steepest areas though..
As soon as the netting came to an end it was goodbye
Lack of crampons was his way of risking it
Pretty sure he knew he’d slide off
Instinctually when you’re that high in a steep environment like that walking on ice you know you can slip all too easily
@@HumptyDumpty-os7ie I'm an experienced winter mountaineer. Going onto a winter mountainside with no tool is suicide. Crampons are nice for sure but you can use the tool to hack footholds into the hillside and to self arrest if you start sliding.
Mountaineering crampons will actually break your legs and/or send you tomahawking down the hill when you start sliding if you dont know wtf you're doing. Without a tool if you take a fall you're still going to die. A tool is absolutely essential.
It's a bit like saying "Not wearing wool socks was the issue" when he has no boots.
@@JarthenGreenmeadowIm convinced he went there to end his life.
This video felt magical for that
Met this dude in 2017 at Shikoku while loading cargo for Australia voyage. He went up our ship to help his friend sell cycling and hiking wearables including equipments and boots. He showed us his channel and what he does. Pretty much everything I can remember, he is jolly though we did not think much about our interaction with them as they also seem to be in a hurry. Did not know this is how he ended. RIP Tetsu
He didnt not complete his bucket list. He did complete his bucket list by climbing this mountain. He died doing what he loved and I hope he is in good hands now
Probably in the hands of the Goddess of the mountain. Bless him.
The void is warm 🎉
Even in death his soul can still be saved from hellfire, we must pray
I don’t know what to say
AllState?
First time I've seen the early parts of the live stream. Poor guy, but somehow it feels more than ever deliberate. He had nothing to lose, so he risked it all
I agree. He loved hiking Fuji and probably throwing caution to the wind thought what’s the worst that can happen….oh ya. I will be soon anyways.
Idk, I think he wanted to feel alive.
Colon cancer, stage 4, and already coping with so much... My heart goes out to him. I'm undecided if this was deliberate or accidental, but given the details I could understand if he did it because he was afraid of suffering alone or being a burden on a family he was already distant from.
Pretty sure he actually got a little too excited about making the attempt and forgetting some equipment. Committed anyway. He had no illusions about how cancer would treat him either, so probably figured if he died then he died.
If I listened correctly, it was nteresting to note that his parents stopped watching coverage near the end when he actually fell.
Pretty sure it was deliberate. He's done this trip many times in summer, he knows he can't walk/climb 6+ hours without bringing a single piece of food. Or any protection in freezing temperatures.
@@carolwatanabe7576 they probably decided it was likely he was going to die and just didn't want to see it. I think I would do the same thing, were it my son.
@@MrKevinStraub Especially when he's woefully underprepared and commenting on his deteriorating condition.
He was climbing the stairway to heaven in more than one way. He got there by himself. I salute your bravery and your efforts to end life on your terms. 🎉
Beautifully said
He made unnecessary work for the rescue team who might have been saving someone who really needed a help. If that was a suicide then it was a bit selfish.
He knew what he was doing. He streamed it because he wanted people to be with him during his last moments, and he wanted to know at least one person in the world somewhere knew he died. He was lonely, he was very ill, and most likely depressed. He climbed the mountain without even bringing a jacket? That tells me he was willing to freeze to death if his other ideas didn’t work. This entire thing was planned out.
Yes... & as He climbed... & as condition's worsened.... He may have imagined reaching the summit & peacefully allowing freezing to end His life....on His Beloved Mountain....
Unfortunately He didn't have the gear to achieve that....
Experienced climber here. The thing that stands out to me is he had a bad feeling. I can say thea one of the main reasons I'm alive is because I listen to my gut feelings. If there's the slightest whiff of a bad feeling, I call out off. I call it a gut feeling, but whatever you call it, listen to it. It WILL save your life.
I've done hundreds of solo hikes in winter, at night and in dangerous conditions and always been scared with a bad feeling. My inner voice is very dark. Never got over it. So maybe it's a personal thing. If I'm with someone else, I'm fine, even if that person is useless in saving me. But that feeling made me very careful and had many backup plans.
@@purpleblueunicornsame with myself, when im solo hiking all I can think about is dark thoughts and all the possible ways I could die.
@@ddrrekkkk glad to hear someone you're having similar thoughts, maybe it's high a particular trait telling us that we must get out of this situation or plan for safety, since it's not the best environment to be in.
I climbed mount Damavand once with a Lur(people leaving in a south western part of Iran) This beast would climb the mount in a day alone in winter, with minimal gear. He literally slided a half a hour hike downwards because he thought it was fun(I am sure I would die of heart attack if I tried it) so there are people like him who are the opposote and he is still alive after 4 years and he climbs the mount 4 times during winter amd around every two weeks in spring.
I was hiking with no gear in kyoto and went on a closed off section, and the path became extremely small like some kind of landfall happened. I said nope and went back.
This is one of the most compassionate comment sections on the internet. I agree that this was deliberate and I don’t blame him doing it considering what he was going through.
Don't blame him doing it? People normalizing this shit is insane. Obv he didn't wanna die. He woulda just done it. It was a last cry for help. I blame society
he just wanted a fun way out
@@Chris-ft2yxhe had stage 4 cancer he was going to die soon
@@Chris-ft2yx how it is normalizing by acknowledging possibility? he couldve done it to take a risk, to die or just to climb. we dont know
You missed the point @down-kg8mt
The dude knew he was dying, so what the hell. He had nothing left to live for.
Tbf, I'd rather freeze at the top, thereby making the mountain taller. Let all the lost people who feel listless join me eventually. Maybe after. Few generations later, maybe we make an appreciable extension.
ikr ... !
@@stillcantbesilencedevennow not how it works
" not how it works "
how does it work... ?
@@sunnystormy4973 bodies dont build on the mountain
He knew exactly what he was doing, my sister past away from colon cancer. She had not told anyone about it even at stage 4. We found out after the cancer had spread. In hindsight I remember things she had said to me that I didn’t realize til after her passing. The one thing I do know is she was in a lot of pain and knew the end was coming. This guy would’ve have known the same thing and had decided while he was still able to to go out on his own terms. Seeing how she suffered I definitely understand his decision
@dag23_subbers This, um...failed to parse. Waiting for retry.
There's something so uncanny about the whole climb. The mountain's trail looks so safely flat and scenic under the daylight, and yet you know it's deceptive. And the way his body was disfigured, you know it's a terrible way to die. Its not steep enough to die in a single impact. It's a death roll. I hope he's in a better place now.
There's a high chance he spent the worst of the fall by being knocked unconscious early on. Hopefully, he stayed that way until the end.
Rounin in Japan refers to a student that didn't pass university entrance exams and now has to work/ wait a year to retake the exam.
But the narrator said he only failed his Bar Exam, meaning he already made it into college.
Dang...A samurai without master?
Guess the worst thing you can be in Japan is a man without a direction he's headed in.
is a big deal if you don't want or get accepted in college/University in japan , means you need to rethink your life, and you will miss the wave of recruitment from Companies looking for salary men years later, for their ranks, once you are in the loop, is a one way trip, mostly, is a choice for life. You get it , or you need to start looking for physical labor intense jobs, there is or was a lot nuance on the path you can take in japan, you must choose carefully. Is a bit different now, but until recently, it was critical. This guy was also 50 , so probably also part of 'the lost generation', the ones that were students near the 90s and saw the collapse of economy. they saw the whole world reject them to work, and probably has been jumping in the "student life " for the rest of his life , instead of looking for job. probably the family also allowed it.
@@kovy689 the term is used loosely for anyone who has failed any exam/test, including bar exams, and is waiting to take the next one.
What a place to die. Incredible scenery. Rather go out like this, than staring at 4 hospital walls
however I wouldn’t enjoy the feeling of crashing down several thousand feet and my body crashing into the ground
His body was torn apart
@@pepperonioverchesse1713 You'd be dead in an istant of hitting the ground. Probably passed out during the free fall anyway. It's a better death than rotting in a bed.
@@frogperson883 what is wrong with you? It's absolutely not, dying in sleep is by silence the best known way, here you get a few seconds of falling, knowing exactly that you will die, even if that's the plan, your human survival instincts will turn on, but it's still too late, fear is the last thing you feel
@r-dragon2538 he has a point, I'd rather die a semi-instantaneous death in a nice scenary than a slow and degrading one that everyone gets to feel pity for
Honestly.. I've watched family members battle cancer and lose badly. At some point I can see myself thinking ok. Time to hit the top 10 list of things I want to do but would probably kill me. Start checking things off. I have no doubts I won't check off all 10. As long as nobody else is harmed that's the way I want to go if my end becomes medically unavoidable.
Same. I can imagine after seeing fellow late-stage cancer patients and how painfully they suffer before they die, he had probably already decided to do *something* . The chat suggestion was just kismet.
If I find out I have terminal cancer, I just want to walk into the ocean and be washed away
@@jennilynmae been watching a lot of shark attacks lately. Might want to reconsider that one
Wait till you learn your end is medically unavoidable from the second you are created.
@@airexpct6224 👍👍
He spent his last moments laughing and taking selfies. That’s much better than in a hospital bed.
Did he have insurance?
I thank you for covering these subjects with sincerity and the gravity they deserve. Cant say how many times I have watched a youtuber try and "liven things up" with being extremely disrespectful to those involved.
Its tall, but also very broad. It tricks your eyes into thinking it isnt that big on film. The picture with the city in the foreground gives the best idea of its size.
Rode out to the foot of Fuji to go to a little restaurant. Up close it completely takes up your view. That is one big volcano
It's 3776 metres high. That's not very challenging for any experienced mountainer
@@jahnsgar Yah-yah, with tech clothes, crampons, and an ice-axe. My inexperienced coworker climbed to the top in summer, clouds all the way, couldn't see anything, burnt all the skin off his head.
he fully knew what he was getting into. he had nothing left to lose and clearly wanted to live out his last moments to the fullest. that’s why he didn’t prepare. he never intended coming back down the mountain alive.
The amount of people who are so adamant that this is the case based solely on a video on the internet is ridiculous.
This is simply an assumption. None of you know what he was thinking. Similar accidents happen to people who don't have a terminal illness every single day.
He didnt bring winter cloths or well anything else other then tea
To climb a mountine@@VikingKong.
@@VikingKong.Everyone in the internet believes they are a genius. Seriously.
@@VikingKong.it’s not that they are so adamant, it’s more of using rational and logical thought to understand why someone would do something so dangerous
his last moments were getting ripped apart falling down a mountain
Having watched what kind of suffering death from cancer can bring, up close and personal, I can't blame him. I wouldn't wish that kind of prolonged pain on anyone.
Those people he met at 12:43 didn’t realize his life was going to be lost that same day, crazy stuff how “oh I met that same guy a few hours ago” could’ve been their reaction 😢.
My grandmother had stage 4 colon cancer aswell, but instead of spending money on a vacation, my family went into debt from hospital bills. Dont let hospitals trick you into spending money that isn't worth it in the end. If your odds are slim, go do something that makes you happy.❤
Worth saying that this does very much NOT apply to countries with actual social security that doesn't put you into infinite debt.
real
yeah better spend that money to move to a country that actually cares about its citizens
@@13redlion13 So you can spend the money on taxes instead and then die on a wait list. Sounds great
@@kp63afaik most places with universal healthcare will give you treatment immediately if it’s life threatening, especially cancer
I want to know what phone carrier he had. Enough service to livestream on a mountain! Damn.
Japan's just next level like that lol. Meanwhile in the US calls drop and texts don't go through at both my house and work in a heavily populated metropolitan area of almost 1 million
Yeah my phone often doesn't send messages and I've got a full plan. I'll just get a "this person is offline" message like an hour after I hit send.
It’s not about the carrier. Mt Fuji is popular enough for it to be worth having cell coverage; most US backcountry areas would never get enough traffic for the tower to be profitable
I mean, it's a line of sight technology. Being up on the mountain actually extends your range.
He was using Niconico
Oxygen deprivation severely impacts rational thought.
So does a stage 4 cancer diagnosis
He only packed tea before climbing a 12000 ft.+ mountain in the winter time without any winter clothes...
I think it's fair to say that this was not a case of oxygen deficiency. His outrageously poor decisions started before he departed for the mountain.
@@steinarjonsson_ I feel like he already knew what he was going to do before he headed out
@@steinarjonsson_This wasn't poor decisions, he wanted to go out on his own terms doing what he loved.
I think he meant his later decision making when he was already on the mountain.
Amazing that he even got this far up the mountain with stage 4 cancer. I believe that he had no intention of returning. RIP.
No I feel he did not care about dying anymore
Me when November starts 0:15
Dont listen to them voices man
😂 I already failed
Press E to resist the influence
LOL
@@JohnnyAllan-vj7sjsame😭
It's a strange thing accepting your fate. You go in to "What do I have to lose" mode where taking unnecessary risk is a way of living to the last moment. The last thing you want is to pass peacefully in the night. I am a stage 3 colon cancer survivor. During my battle with cancer, I lost my father, 2 uncles, my aunt and 2 very close friends to cancer. We all were battling cancer together and I lost them all. I even lost my dog I've had since his birth to cancer. I lost my home due to price increases, lost my girlfriend, who had walked out, but I still went to work every single day that I was able to stand for a sense of normal. I say this because I know what it is like to want to give up. He has made this climb several times before, this was his normal. Mt. Fuji is a place that claims lost souls, where many go to die in the Sea of Trees. This is probably just where he wanted his soul to be, part of the mountain.
Did anyone else notice that when he starts falling there is barely a scream? That strikes me as someone who , at the very least, is prepared to die. I think Tetsu fully intended to take his own life that day, and if he didn’t fully intend it, he at least knew the odds of not making it back down that mountain. It’s terribly sad, but I think that given what the rest of his battle with late stage cancer would bring, he made an informed decision to go out on his own terms. God bless his soul. I hope that he is finally at peace.
Screaming when there is life threatening danger is more of a women thing. It’s evolutionary so don’t get mad at me lol
If you watch bodycam footage of any incident, there is always some woman SCREAMING in the background; while men tend not to scream, but get more aggressive (some are silent, some shout words; but rarely ‘AHHH’)
@@GardenGuy1942 what a stupid comment with no scientific basis to back it up.
@@GardenGuy1942 Lol! It's evolutionary so don't get mad, haha! If that's the case, maybe it's evolutionary that men may not scream as much because they've probably been conditioned not to scream even when both sexes are subjected to the same situations that would evoke a scream.
Have you ever wanted to scream but didn't for fear someone might call you a Scaredy Cat whereas no one would think to call a woman that?
@@meg4458 But screaming is an important tool to use, either to draw attention or to release stress or for many reasons. It's not usually used to direct at someone in anger but under conditions that I stated. It's not a negative thing. It doesn't mean people who scream are histrionic.
@@meg4458 get upset all you want, look it up for yourself 😂
He went out on his own terms. With his boots on. Most of us will never be able to say that.
👍👍
I do not want to be able to say that. I am hopeful that the days before my death I will enjoy some pleasant things surrounded by friends and family. No mountain is as high as that.
@@cesarincamendozaloyola4407 to each their own
I don't think this is anything to be proud of. The guy went out the worst way imaginable and wasted the time of hundreds of emergency workers.
@@jshowao then go out on your own terms.
I mean this is a classic suicide. He was already at the end from csncer and probably in pain. Livestreamed it in order to get his body recovered. Could be said that is an ending to a sad story
Idk how it is for that moutian but its actually typically not a thing that happens in America we leave the bodys, as its not worth risking more lifes to get a body
@@Kichi_2001that’s not how that works aha, coast guard rescues and recovers bodies and hikers along with SAR. It’s training for them.. The reason why they don’t take people off mtns like Everest is because it’s 10 times harder to do and risks themselves getting injured. so unless you’re on Denali or stuck in a crevasse where they’ll never see you they are gunna try to get you out. At least that’s how it works in Washington state.
you mean only half his body because in the video they couldn't find the lower. i guess it was just a halve open casket funeral XD
@nachosplit8794 why are you Laughing bro death is not funny.
@@Kichi_2001this isn’t the death zone of Everest. Bodies typically are recovered
My friend Sheeto did the same thing. But, he was an artist. He fell a very long way down but he did not carry any camera. He loved to do art. So from the top of the mountain all the way down until the snow ends were snow angels....a long strip, then a snow angel.....a long strip, another snow angel, then a long strip and a yellow snow angel and further down was a liquidy brown looking snow angel. His body was never found, but rangers believe his carcass was eaten by a dirt devil, at the point the snow ended. I miss Sheeto.
Damn.
The first 30 seconds basically shows all you are going to see from the footage. You can literally skip the last 20:26.
Hilarious that this has zero likes and is the very first comment. No one cares about your shallowness. Go away.
Warn about a spoiler, at least! 😅
To the Japanese, suicide is considered dishonorable and cowardly, and is forbidden. I'm sure by framing his clear suicide as if he was in the act of being an uneducated hiker newbie and "Accidentally" dying, he would be viewed as having been forgiven in the eyes of the gods, like he was trying to trick them. In his mind anyway. And maybe he just wanted to be known for something and not feel like just another little rat in a cage.
so what's with the kamikaze and samurai doing it
@@EffectualPoet Samurai suicide in battle is a form of honorable sacrifice pertaining to martial combat. It doesn't translate to modern day someone wanting to do it because "my life sucks". It's actually shameful in Japanese culture to have a mental illness, which is why those that do are hidden away from society squirreled away in dying little villages where they can't be seen by the public. It is just not talked about in their culture.
Families will often try to hide it by claiming it was an "accident" or "heart attack" or some such thing. No parent who finds their child has jumped to their death from the apartment balcony is going to think, "Well, at least it was honourable." No woman whose husband jumps in front of a subway train is going to console themselves with how "honourable" it was.
Generally, people in Japan are less inclined to show their true feelings than a lot of us are used to. Showing a strong front, not complaining, and keeping your personal feelings inside to maintain the status quo is what's expected. it's an expectation that they have to deal with their personal grief stoically and privately, and an unwillingness to confront the larger problems that caused it.
Whatever the historical importance of suicide might have been, the people committing suicide today aren't honourbound samurai retainers or whatever: they're kids and adults who deal with serious stress, problems, or mental illness, in a society that expects people to suck it up and act like everything is okay and move on like a robot.
@@MrWolfSnack But there are plenty of examples of people killing themselves to avoid shame in modern times. Just because the samurai are gone doesn't mean their cultural impact is. Suicide may be shameful, but to a lot of people who hold more traditional values, living in shame is worse.
The topic of suicide is one that is quite well-documented in Japanese culture and history. And there definitely is a cultural expectation that sometimes one has messed up so badly that the only way to make amends (and restore your family's honor) is to kill yourself. While it was an "honor" that was was reserved for the samurai class and mostly to avoid capture in war, there was no real prohibition on those outside the samurai caste doing it - it was more that such a thing was never expected or ordered of them.
Notably, voluntary seppuku was viewed as honorable. Forced/obligatory seppuku was seen as dishonorable, shameful, and undignified. Even for criminal samurai, they would be told of their charges and given 24 hours to kill themselves. If they did not? They would be either forced to kill themselves or they would be executed. If they killed themselves without being forced, it was seen as a way for them to reclaim their family's honor - although if their crimes were severe enough, their family could still be punished as well.
So with that history and with the abolition of samurai classes, is it really so surprising that suicide is so incredibly common in Japan? It's certainly much more common than in nations where there are religious prohibitions against suicide.
I really don't know where you got the idea that suicide is seen as dishonorable and cowardly in Japan. Absolutely nothing I've read on the subject implies that, in fact, they usually state the opposite. And that's a large part of why their suicide rate is at 15.8 per 100k people - although that is a pretty big decline from where it used to be just 20 years ago. In the US, on the other hand, our suicide rate is going in the opposite direction - up to 14.0 per 100k people.
Also, there's nothing indicating Shinto or Buddhist gods look down on seppuku or suicide in general. Seppuku may have been outlawed in 1873, but that doesn't mean people don't still idealize what it stood for. Hell, it's even been practiced as recently as 1970 by two men that tried to lead a coup against the government.
@@MrWolfSnack Japanese are no exception to the human condition of suffering. They do have unique social customs on how it manifests like the suicide forest and hikkomori. Tetsu died doing what he loved, making the ascent to Mt. Fuji in the winter, middle aged with stage 4 cancer which is something many people in their prime can't even do. Even the goddess of the mountain whispered to him. He died a good and honorable death.
Heck if I knew I only had a 7% chance to live i'd go and do whatever I wanted nevermind the risks.
@JimAllen-Persona And the probability of you thinking it is just a probability is also a probability.
@@MrWolfSnack Well, it's the doctors who diagnosed him w/a 7% probability so they wouldn't have told him that if he had a 0% probability so what are people suppose to do w/that smidgen of hope but decide for themselves if it's worth fighting for. Heck, there's not much else to do after we're dead.
@@isabellind1292 saying theres not much left to do after you die is such an understatement
@JimAllen-Persona i mean 0.1% is a probality as well.....
@@crafterrium8724And how would anyone know that? How would you even know?
I hope that he found peace.
he probably wanted to find his last resting spot, but he fell on the way. Either way he died climing a mountain he loved. He is resting
more likekly he did found a big rock rather than peace
@@ritmolatino1627 hush up
Don't*
??? uncalled for @@amycoppock4784
This gives me chills, imagine watching a live stream expecting to see a cool live stream about mount fuji out of season, and you see a guy’s last moments instead.
thinking of my Dad. He was in much the same situation, I lost him to his cancer 2 years ago almost now..
hearing 17:05 the Hime (pronounced he-may) say this hurt
and reminds me how we begged our Dad most our lives to take care of himself....miss you Dad.. love you
My feeling is he knew he hadn't long to live. Cancer is a terrible disease and this kind is debilitating. Considering the way Japanese society views people who do not live in a "respectable" manner, ie, married, children, a stable job, I think he felt this was it for him.
i dont have a stable job either, even thou i have a masters degree... Does it make me non respectable too?
Health is wealth. @@Roxana_Official
In Japanese society
@@Roxana_Official all about you, huh?
@@yelleow no, all about your mom
When I get to that point in my life, I can only hope I have the stamina and bravery Tetsu had! Going out, pretty much knowing it's going to be a one-way trip, reassuring his viewers everything is fine while knowing what may happen takes a helluva lot of courage. Like....what's the best that could happen? I die....whatever, I'll be doing the thing I love instead of rotting away by cancer.
May *insert higher being of choice* take care of this soul.
I've seen people sadly just awaiting death in beds, slowly being eaten away. I think I agree with you, I'll do something wild before I am just waiting around as nurses want to clear me away for the next person.
The voice that was heard was from the TTS on his stream. His viewers were telling him to go back
He thought it was the woman 😢
@@horsma2064no only the person who made this video got it wrong. It’s clearly a Japanese TTS. Streamers use it when they can’t read the chat themselves, so for example if someone super chats, the TTS will read it out loud for them.
@@84rinne_moo Yeah I know lol, I meant that the guy who made this video thought that it was the woman.
It's all so fitting and beautiful. In a way, he found himself on that mountain and returned to earth doing what he loved.
I hope I'm not glorifying the wrong things here, but I really admire this guy.
Love your detailed "time stamps" along the way. Well done
A lot of people saying he wanted to die, but in addition I think he also knew it would be grizzly and painful. Not the death of a weak person. A person who just wanted to go to sleep and never wake up because they'd failed could just takes pills and alcohol. This guy wanted to be torn to pieces while live streaming his attempt to winter conquer this impressive mountain. I think he has succeeded. He created a spectacle of suffering and daring and he ended his life without looking weak. It makes me think of the kamikaze. Instead of destroying an aircraft carrier he destroyed the image that he was cowardly and inept.
I see now
The whole point of kamikaze was to take other lives with their own.
Please don't compare Tetsu to that.
@@Tainira94Smiler fan spotted
Gotta give it to him I’ve climbed Fuji twice and NOT in the winter. It’s pretty tough and exhausting during season I can’t imagine how tough it’s gotta be during winter.
God that’s just awful.. I’d hate to watch a livestream where the live streamer gets killed, especially that situation..
Seems like they were watching knowing full well how it'd end.
he was dumb and i hate him
Well, I'd rather do this than die hooked up to thousands of monitors in a hospital bed
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Imagine watching a live stream peacefully with a man and then you see him fall and slip down a mountain, dying after. It's sad. My heart stopped when he slipped
I’ve known about this story and heard a lot of talk about it and was always thinking to myself that this guy was stupid BUT…..stage 4 cancer? Bro….what a way to go out. 5/5
I'm pretty sure I've heard this exact story, except there was no mention of cancer in that video, they just talked like he was a moron. Big respect to the man for going out doing something awesome instead of a slow painful death in a hospital.
The narrator seems completely oblivious to the main factor in all this - the guy had CANCER. It seems completely obvious that he did this climb knowing he would almost certainly die. His death may have been brutal, but far quicker and perhaps still not as brutal as months in a hospital bed on morphine as the cancer ate him alive. And he was not close to his parents, his livestream viewers were his 'friends', his 'family' - they were the ones he wanted with him at the end.
THIS!!! it genuinely started pissing me off when the narrator just keeps asking questions of why Tetsu did this and this, without looping back to the fact that he not only had stage 4 CANCER, but also that he got back from a doctors appointment, which was most likely NOT good news. man was probably in the lowest possible mental state at that time.
He is taking a neutral stance in which he’s not speculating, just presenting the facts and leaving the speculation to us. It’s normal in proper reporting. Since factually, unless we had a note, no one can make those claims. It’s circumstantial in all of our behalves, no matter how “obvious”. We don’t factually know. We are just speculating. Don’t get wrong, good speculation, but speculation nonetheless.
He's running a commentary and leaving the narrative open for viewers to interpret. He didn't miss anything. The questions are thought prompts.
The thing about neutral stances is that sometimes they're even more biased than a position. In this case, you think being in the middle is inherently the more intellectual option, but when the evidence is beyond obvious, you actually look foolish. Like you're trying to look smart by blindly following platitudes.
@@simplyrowenfunny how we have been brainwashed to not even KNOW what non biased reporting is.
I think he wasn't 100% sure about killing himself when he started, but the longer he kept on, and the more dire the situation became, the easier it was to give in. Hope he's at peace.
My heart cries for the parents.
They knew, this was his choice.
He would live or die by the mountain, not by cancer.
Godspeed to you sir. 🙏
And my condolences to the family for your loss. 🙏
The talk of courage, and braveness is most likely true, and he did act with it, but deep down he did know he was going to pass away, with "Even if I die, I won't know, the rest is at your own risk" 10:42 He also knew the cold would numb him, and not bringing food and barley any equipment he committed to this. With stage four lunge cancer, I believe he was trying to end it doing what he loved, knowing he might not make it to summer to safely climb mount Fuji on stream. I believe what he did was not selfless or ignorant, but was brave, and sad. Ultimately ending it with what he loved doing which is very respectable.
Rest in peace, Tetsu Shiohara.
Better than in some sterile hospital bed surrounded by monitors and machines.
Top man.
That's crazy. I actually climbed Fuji-san on 7 Sept 2019. Who knows, may have passed by him that day.
He was the bloke in shorts and sliders
poor man.god rest his soul.
0:14 Me during November
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s crazy💀💀💀
Haha got me giggling
@@camash125Shits and giggles until somebody shits and giggles
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He went out on his terms. Respect.
I've seen my grandparents slowly die in hospital rooms, I know for sure I'd take a mountain instead if I ever get to be in a situation like him.
👍👍
A few friends of mine tried to climb in the off season. They ended up slipping and sliding down the mountain quite a ways, but luckily came to a stop in a snow drift. They gave up at that point and agree that they almost died.
I don't think he had any intention of returning
I believe this man was loved more than he realized, May he rest in peace.
Dude gets better service on top of Mt. Fuji than I do in the town I live in.
I think we was more than accepting of the odds of his survival. At the very least, he knew it was 50/50 at best
As Doctor Mann said in Interestellar, Those are the best odds I've had in years.
95/5 without crampons
I feel like this was deliberate, he went out on his own terms. He's climbed the same mountain before and knew full well what he actually needed. He deliberately brought none of it. He knew it was his last summit.
Cancer slowly taking over his body, nothing to live for, so dude went up as high as he could to show god the middle finger. I don't think this was a 'poor' guy as many here in the comments claim, this was a warrior who chose his own path. Major respect for Tetsu.
He's a poor guy because his life wasn't going at all how he'd hoped, and because nobody chooses to die if they still feel hope and joy. Nobody is saying he's a poor guy because he decided he didn't want to suffer anymore or be a burden. Everything about your comment just reeks of ignorance. But good job sounding like a bro. Very tough and edgy lmao
Yea if you think giving god the middle finger is cool you got another thing coming when its your time, every head will bow when its time
It's such a horrible disease that takes people who too early in life.
But god doesn’t exist?
@@morkegamer If god didnt exist neither would you.
I climbed the mountain 6 years ago when I was 9 and it was the worst day of my life back then. I want to climb it again now to see if it’s a different experience
He's still alive because we are not our bodies. He is with many friends and family, healthy and endless happy now where he lives. 🙂 💕 ☀️
17:03 absolutely fascinating and bone chilling at the same time......
🙏 Rest well Tetsu 🙏
I can't relate to his cancer situation, but I can absolutely relate to the force that wants you to keep going just that little bit more. "You are almost there, you have come this far already. Just push the rest of the way".
That's the voice inside of me when ever I hike and bite off more than I can chew. The fact is though, I never risk my life when the little voice says, "stop, that's not safe"
I'm 12 minutes in... this man went up there knowing he would die... he WANTED to die...
It took you 12 minutes to figure that out?
Ya, absolutely, "forgot" everything. Live streamed so everyone would know.
This man’s honestly a legend. He had stage 4 cancer and was summiting the tallest mountain instead of giving up
I would be terrified sliding down the slippery icy mountain knowing I was going to die.
He had terminal cancer, I’m sure he wanted to pass away somewhere beautiful doing something he loved. Rip ♥️
Oxygen depravation can cause a loss of awareness, and a feeling of euphoria. By the time he might’ve otherwise realized the danger, he may well have been so oxygen deprived his brain may not have functioned well enough to make the correct decision to turn back. It’s why you’re instructed on an airplane to affix your own mask before helping others on an airline in an emergency.
He set off without warm clothes, food or any other survival gear. This was very obviously planned out before he set a foot on the mountain, he didn't intend to come back. All that waited for him back home was a hospital bed and slow painful death. Big respect to the man for going out on his terms doing what he loved.
Dude with stage 4 cancer climbing a dangerous mountain? He knew what he was doing. RIP matey
RIP Tetsu - this incarnation was a tough one for you. May the next be a blessing ✨🫶
"We aren't prepared." That couple turning back did the wise thing. You have to admit when you are outmatched by nature and retreat. I've had to abandon hikes much smaller than this for similar reasons. I've also gone on hikes knowing I could not summit, promising only to go as far as I could to enjoy a day hike and turn around before it got dangerous. A sense of adventure and recklessness are two different things. I fear this man's medical diagnosis shifted his perspective in dangerous ways tragically tipping the scales of his reason to the later.
Could be that he simply wanted to succeed in one difficult thing, considering he was facing a probable end to his life and his health was probably getting worse between the cancer and his age. He might not have been suicidal necessarily (we can't be sure one way or another), but he was aware, I expect, that he was seriously risking his life in the attempt.
How mortifying to think he slid more than halfway down the mountain
Maybe he was just trying to get down faster?
@@garymapes6955loser.
@@garymapes6955if only we could make jokes about your death but alas you’re an oxygen thief trying to be funny on yt
He should of had a speed wing or wing suit. But hey, got the job done.
Mt Fuji is around 4km tall, and he slid for 700m
I'm watching your videos for a long time already, and it shows that you're putting a ton of effort into this. To me it feels like your narration and editing are improving steadily, making it all the more worthwhile!
very informitive good job and i pray that Tetsu rests in peace amen
He's in a better place. Really - looking at human history you have to admit this can be a pretty rough place. I hope he gets a grand welcome/return for hanging on and coping the best he could. RIP Tetsu
There is no doubt in my mind, he planned to die that day. He conveniently forgot the most basic gear (food, flashlight heavier clothing, hat, proper gear) because he was more afraid of chickening out, so he gave himself no options. He went beyond all safety measures, and past the window of time to allow for a safe climb down.
He just didn’t care if he didn’t make it back. Nothing to lose! What an amazing kind of freedom. God speed dude!🙏🏻
This was a do or die journey. He was either going to complete this, or die trying, and I think he knew that.
He loved the mountain so much and knowing he will die soon from the cancer, that is where he wanted to be, knowing he would freeze. That's horrible that he fell, he wanted to be on the top of the mountain. He may have thought it was better this way so his family would be spared from seeing him die from cancer. If it was me and I was able to climb and wanted the mountain to be my last place, I would do that. But I would bring something natural to speed it up.
A brilliant and tragic documentary.
“A wise man climbs Mount Fuji once, only a fool climbs it twice.”
- Japanese proverb
What a legend. He wanted us to live vicariously though him and witness
So very very sad. A lost soul. I have tears and a broken heart for this hurting man
He hurts no more 🗻🤕💬"it slippereeey"
No matter if this was suicide or not, he was a brave man. I Hope he found peace🙏
He didn't want to waste away on lying on his back. He died on his own terms. I can respect that.
Instead of going to the forrest like others, he did it his way with no shame and he did what hes wanted to do before going