So This is How Conductors ACTUALLY Work?!

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  • Опубліковано 16 лис 2022
  • The most useful musical advice we can learn from conductors, featuring Alan Gilbert (conductor), NDR Elbphilharmonie Orchestra, and Julio Elizalde (pianist).
    Produced and filmed by Nahre Sol and Julius Meltzer
    Edited by Nahre Sol and Martino Gasparrini
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 400

  • @julioelizaldepiano
    @julioelizaldepiano Рік тому +703

    So honored to be part of this really important discussion about the role of conductors. Thanks, Nahre!!

    • @NahreSol
      @NahreSol  Рік тому +54

      Thanks for coming on as a special guest!!! Your insights were incredible!!!

    • @JamesHunterRoss
      @JamesHunterRoss Рік тому +14

      Your words, sir, were really inspiring and enlightening. My mind has been opened a bit, and it even offers a framework for becoming a better listener.

    • @James_Bowie
      @James_Bowie Рік тому +5

      Thank you very much fr contributing to it.

    • @sturam30
      @sturam30 Рік тому +3

      Love your work. Drop some more videos.

    • @KitagumaIgen
      @KitagumaIgen Рік тому +1

      Once I read about the legendary ice-hockey coach Tarasov, that he'd learnt to only coach with positive encouragement from lion-tamers, only using carrot never stick. As a 14 year old that made sense to me, also as a 14 year old I suspected that the players of his national team new that "he new which direction Siberia were".

  • @truecuckoo
    @truecuckoo Рік тому +39

    In my youth I was an active choir member, and we often collaborated with symphony orchestras and smaller ensembles. For a semi professional choir to come in to a 100% professional orchestra rehearsal, the conductor, and the communication with us on the back flank is essential. I’ve had mostly good experiences, and always felt like they fully understood that we’re half professional and took us under their wings and helped us bloom. I see the conductor as an artistic leader with off the chart musical, practical and social skills. I remember one episode with a conductor called Junichi Hirokami, we did Beethoven’s last symphony, and in some of our choir-only parts he worked so hard to keep us in tune, even during the concert showing no embarrassment in doing what he could to keep us from going flat. Good memories.

  • @richardstannard3139
    @richardstannard3139 Рік тому +74

    When I was a young conductor, a wonderful mentor taught me that there were three entities in a performance: the conductor, the musicians, and most importantly, the audience. The finest musical experiences are brought to life when all three entities can own something of the performance together.
    Thank you, Nahre, for this video.

  • @kpunkt.klaviermusik
    @kpunkt.klaviermusik Рік тому +90

    This is really interesting. In an orchestra there's this one guy who decides how the whole group of musicians is supposed to play. In chamber music that's quite different. Each musician has his own view on the piece and they have to find a way to combine these views, which sometimes isn't that easy.

    • @BlueMeeple
      @BlueMeeple Рік тому +15

      IMHO good conductors (and good orchestras) combine these two approaches, it really is a collaboration.

    • @michaelfoxbrass
      @michaelfoxbrass Рік тому +3

      @@BlueMeeple Exactly - and sometimes the collaboration is with an individual orchestra member, sometimes with the principal player in each section who then communicates bowing/articulation/other concepts to the section, and sometimes (but more rarely), both!

    • @charlietian4023
      @charlietian4023 Рік тому +1

      @@BlueMeeple this is something I've learned as I've been conducting more and more

  • @WeAreOnePiano
    @WeAreOnePiano Рік тому +22

    Loved the contrast of the black outfits you guys wore against the white room!

  • @patlilburn5251
    @patlilburn5251 Рік тому +62

    For non-musicians like me, again here what’s the most fun is how so much of these conversations are relevant to non-musical activities. Your interview with the conductor was just great, and I loved his remarks about having a plan or vision, about adapting to the group and the venue and the audience, and about how any group can sense a fraud…or how sometimes they will just WANT to sense a fraud. And yes I believe I did spot you in the rehearsal shot.

    • @michaelfoxbrass
      @michaelfoxbrass Рік тому

      This video is every bit as relevant to a corporate department head or CEO as it is to individual musicians or conductors or other non-musical artists where a collaborative leadership style is required.

  • @larryaustin4195
    @larryaustin4195 Рік тому +10

    Your videos are so very informative. I especially enjoyed hearing Alan Gilbert, whose grandfather, Noel Gilbert, was my childhood piano teacher.

  • @DrQuizzler
    @DrQuizzler Рік тому +30

    I was waiting for the word "rehearsal", because I'm pretty sure that's where the magic happens. Just like you were saying, the game plan unfolds in rehearsal, so in performance, the conductor guides prompts and reminds, basically harkening back to things he/she and the orchestra members worked out in rehearsal. Pretty fun to be part of as I recall.

    • @soozb15
      @soozb15 Рік тому +1

      Totally agree. I remember as a choir member being quite scared during performances (no matter how well prepared), but the rehearsals were a creative, joyful and almost spiritual experience in many instances. And no audience required for that!

  • @frankherrgott
    @frankherrgott Рік тому +8

    FANTASTIC as always Nahre Sol. Thank you for this video!

  • @mickwoolley8267
    @mickwoolley8267 Рік тому +11

    As a committed concert goer, I always try to attend concerts where I know I will love the conducting. When I can see the leadership producing a positive reaction then I know the sounds and flow of the music will follow. The Bernstein clip you showed was, I think, from his Saint Paul's cathedral performance of Verdi requiem. It was the very first time I sat up late as a kid to watch a classical performance and was truly electrifying. Most recently I saw a Vaughan Williams Tallis Fantasia and I was totally blubbing by the end - such marvellous music, brought together by wonderful conducting of an excellent orchestra.

  • @paulthiebaut
    @paulthiebaut Рік тому +21

    I just love this orchestral videos series ! I'd be more than excited to see a whole documentary on these interviews and discussions honestly those videos are so interesting !

  • @mq9demo
    @mq9demo Рік тому +20

    Stunning material, Nahre!! Thank you so much!! I've played in professional symphonies for the last 14 years, and yet, I learn so so so much from this

  • @somniavitasunt
    @somniavitasunt Рік тому +10

    Nahre Sol really is a musicians musician. Thanks for the insights.

  • @AndyJanssenMusic
    @AndyJanssenMusic Рік тому +10

    As both a Hamburger and Nahre fan, these Elbphilharmonie episodes are pure bliss 😊
    Also such nice insights into the work of a conductor and I especially liked the part about adapting a conductor's mindset as a performer

  • @wdashwor
    @wdashwor Рік тому +10

    It's wonderful to hear Maestro Gilbert's down-to-earth and enlightening comments. Thanks for bringing this to us! 🙂

  • @roddyg3692
    @roddyg3692 Рік тому +3

    Back in early 1980's my roommate was a music conductor at UF School of Music and Raiford Maximum Security State Prison. He was an excellent pianist and we played all genres of music.

  • @viniciuscomacento
    @viniciuscomacento Рік тому +1

    LOVED IT, Nahre! I'm just so in love with your channel. Thanks a lot for the top-notch quality of your music content. Keep it up!

  • @vicsardou9654
    @vicsardou9654 Рік тому +7

    I was brought up in a household that cherished all sorts of music (not every type but many). Western classical music was our foundation. Music appreciation was also taught in my elementary school. Everything from how to behave (including when to clap) to abstract ideas was discussed, broken down and freely exchanged without judgement. Though I don't get as much time to deep dive into music as I used to (especially with others), watching your videos reminds me of the wonderful times exploring music.

  • @RolandHuettmann
    @RolandHuettmann Рік тому +39

    I went to school in Hamburg. It is a city focussing a lot on music. Brahms was born there. The Beatles started their carrier there. Lots of Jazz is going on all the time in various clubs. And "Elfi" really is an attraction now for musicians coming from all over the world. Your presentations are brillant, dear Nahre. Thank you.

    • @HD-su9sq
      @HD-su9sq Рік тому +2

      Before covid, I travelled to Germany and had a day in Hamburg. I saw Elfi from the boat and didn't appreciate it or what it contains. I want to come back soon, especially after Nahre's videos. Thank you Nahre, and Hamburg too!

    • @maggoteater2290
      @maggoteater2290 Рік тому

      The music school or just to school ?

    • @RolandHuettmann
      @RolandHuettmann Рік тому

      @@maggoteater2290 Both. In the school music was taught up to 13 years (our scholl schedule), and in private, I had piano teachers.

    • @phutureproof
      @phutureproof 10 місяців тому

      Excuse me the Beatles formed in Liverpool, England

    • @roadrollerdio565
      @roadrollerdio565 6 місяців тому

      ​@@phutureproofNot denying this but their stint in Hamburg playing 6 hours every night at clubs gave them the practice, skill, stamina, live experience and tightness as a band that let them blow up soon after when they returned to the UK.

  • @garygreen7552
    @garygreen7552 Рік тому +3

    What a great video. Mr. Gilbert's comments reminded me of some the conductors that I have played under, and others that I have watched rehearse. With one his reaction when something was not quite right was to apologize and do that part again while he tried to "be more clear in communicating" what was he wanted. Another reminded a high school orchestra that at one point they needed to listen to the flute solo. That one sentence told the young musicians several things. I could go on and on. I have been on both sides of conductor's stand and I loved what was taught in this video. Thank you.

  • @peteroh9319
    @peteroh9319 Рік тому +3

    I appreciate the eloquence with which Elizalde, Gilbert and Nahre Sol explain conducting and it’s intricacies. They are all precise with their wording and seem very intelligent. It’s very insightful to hear masters of different trades explain conducting from different perspectives.
    Great vid!!!!

  • @JamesHunterRoss
    @JamesHunterRoss Рік тому +3

    What an enjoyable and profound video this was! Hearing the conductor's thoughts blew my mind; he is aware of the "purpose" of each aspect of the piece with regards to the interpratation, (the "what are we trying to do"), AND THEN listening in the moment to ensurre all the right things are happening and offering solutions to help the players. Mind is blown.
    Better still is how this type of thinking applies to your own playing; I never thought of such a thing. Even better still is how these same ideas apply even when you are just listening!

  • @michaelfoxbrass
    @michaelfoxbrass Рік тому +2

    Ms. Sol, this is the most informative, insightful, and accurate UA-cam video on this topic! Your personal revelations on the role/art of conductors as musical collaborators/leaders are, at some point, realized by EVERY seasoned musician; and the earlier, the better!
    I believe there’s a TED talk waiting to be developed from the material you’ve already captured. Thank you for the approach and preparation. You have clearly thought through your communications goals, in (ahem!) much the same way a conductor does for a performance of Mahler 2!

  • @talladale
    @talladale Рік тому

    This is a really great video. Well done! It covered just about all the important aspects of music and conducting and was well put together. Keep up the good work!

  • @zita-lein
    @zita-lein Рік тому +1

    Altho I play piano, I’m old (65) and just learning (3 yrs), so I listened to this video more as audience member. Super helpful. Loved it! ❤

  • @philipbenjamin4720
    @philipbenjamin4720 Рік тому +2

    That was a brilliant video! You connected with some wonderful people Nahre - those who embody both humility and excellence. That idea about being aware of what is happening. beyond oneself really struck me as gold. I have seen conductors who are pumping away and they don't convince me but I couldn't explain why - but I realise now they aren't staking a claim on the whole room - audience and orchestra. Conducting - like other leadership - is convincing everyone "this is going to work".

  • @T-Woman
    @T-Woman Рік тому

    Alan Gilbert is amazing, and I so enjoyed hearing him share perspective. He was in Cleveland while I was a grad student at CIM, and was so good at bringing out the very best in every one of us from the podium.

  • @truecuckoo
    @truecuckoo Рік тому +7

    Amazing video! I love being brought into serious art and performance related conversations like these. Love it! 🙌🏽

    • @lemonberries
      @lemonberries Рік тому +2

      Agreed! As someone who consumes mostly electronic music, I find content like this to be a fascinating and refreshing change of pace.

  • @gabrielwolfcolor
    @gabrielwolfcolor Рік тому +1

    Thank you, Nahre! Awesome insights! 🎴

  • @emathews1
    @emathews1 Рік тому +4

    I really enjoyed this, but there is so much more you could say. I hope you continue to share these insights with us!

  • @cyozdemir113
    @cyozdemir113 Рік тому +1

    Great content, thanks Nahre, lovely stuff!

  • @cpu088
    @cpu088 22 дні тому

    Thank you so much for creating and sharing this! Awesome!

  • @CPF9898
    @CPF9898 Рік тому +2

    This video is very well done. Editing is superb.Thank you.

  • @karelbredenhorst
    @karelbredenhorst Рік тому +1

    Wonderful mini-docu! Well done, Nahre!

  • @marcopellegatti
    @marcopellegatti Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video! Congrats and thanks for posting it.

  • @yoniteclas
    @yoniteclas Рік тому

    Great video, Nahre! Keep ‘‘em coming!

  • @shadwellsong
    @shadwellsong Рік тому +1

    Nahre, thank you I really enjoyed this one! You bring such a good energy to these videos! 🥳🥳🥳🤓🤓🤓

  • @TheSLUSO
    @TheSLUSO 11 місяців тому

    Great video with so many various and broad insights - all of them meaningful! Thank you!

  • @MaxiGoethling
    @MaxiGoethling Рік тому +2

    this your best video yet, it was so well produced and edited

  • @ftumschk
    @ftumschk Рік тому +2

    Thank you all so much for this video. Fascinating!

  • @RichTCS
    @RichTCS Рік тому +2

    What a fascinating dive into the role of the conductor -- I've always known that they're more than just a human metronome. It's good to learn about the leadership and vision that they bring to the podium.

  • @leslieackerman4189
    @leslieackerman4189 Рік тому +2

    Even if you are not a musician, just a melomaniac, music lover, these videos enhance our appreciation! Your explanations are illuminating . And to top it, you voice is as beautiful as you are.

  • @mrnnhnz
    @mrnnhnz Рік тому +4

    Thanks for this Nahre. Very interesting. I have some comments:
    If someone tried to suggest that one of the conductor's jobs is to be a visual spectacle, I would have to totally disagree. Their job is to coax the best possible performance out of the performers. If that means they have to become a performer themselves, okay. But it's silly and wrong for them to consider how they look to the audience at any time (other than dressing appropriately I suppose.) If they happen to look dramatic or silly or boring or energetic or exciting or dull or old fashioned or whatever - that's utterly irrelevant. It's the music itself that is important. Having said that, if, for example, it was only possible to get the best performance out of a player by silently mouthing the beat with "loud" mouth movements - ONE, TWO, THREE [silently] that might look silly. Still better than not getting the right result. BUT, if it was possible still to get the right result withOUT doing that, then so much the better. So I guess there is some wiggle room. But my original point holds. You don't (or shouldn't - we can discuss that as well if you like...) come to the concert to watch Mahler being apoplectic to his orchestra. You come to hear the actual piece.
    Regarding letting rhythm or the melody lead: this is a huge source of frustration for me. Picasso or LeRoy Neiman can paint abstract works if they want to, because they're already masters of their craft. But a 4 year-old throwing paint at some canvas has not created a masterpiece. Far too many conductors let rhythm go to the wind because they're unable to create a steady pleasing beat, and they excuse it by imagining the rubato is their "interpretation." Total annoying BS. Get your ensemble to play together first, in strict time, THEN you can consider allowing rubato into the melody.
    I'm not a professional conductor, but I've been in choirs all my life and have a BMus. It seems to me that the conductor has a lot of jobs to fulfil. When it really really comes down to it, the one job is to get an amazing performance out of the performers. But that requires a lot, and probably three main things. 1. Building rapport amongst the orchestra so performers can enjoy their jobs, and feel the music between the performers and sections in a more intimate way. 2. Interpreting what the composer was trying to achieve, and then successfully sharing that vision with the performers so they all endorse it and are aiming for that vision each and every one as well. 3. Being a visual aid as to the beat, cues/entries/cut-offs, performance details such as tempo, dynamics, phrasing.
    The smelling a fraud thing? Yeah, that's what I was referring to with the rubato conductors. I think the conductor does need to have a lot of music skill. They also need to know how each instrument produces sound. Like the actual techniques for playing the instrument, (e.g. "Second violins, could I hear you playing that sul pont. section with downbows on the following beats...?" "Tamtam, you need to find a bigger, heavier softer beater." "Woodwinds, that section should not be detached, but not as staccato as that, please try a more downturned embouchure." and so on.) They need to know the work through and through. They must have practiced conducting it at home so they are ready to do their job flawlessly. But they also need to be humble. If they make a mistake, then they have to be able to own up to it. They have to be open to the lowliest member of the orchestra asking them, "I think you accidentally beat four beats in that three four bar," and be humble enough to say, "You're right, I'm sorry, that's something I'll have to work on." Or if during the early stages of rehearsal they get challenged on the speed or feel of a certain section: "You seem to be taking that section titled 'Grave' at quite a clip. I feel we should be slower there," they have to be able to humbly reflect and say, "Actually you're right. I'll reconsider the speed there and probably bring it back quite a lot. Thanks for pointing that out." Obviously that sort of thing can really only be done in the first few weeks of rehearsals. But the conductor should have created an atmosphere where any musical feedback can be aired without fear of recrimination. (Performers should not fear the conductor replying, "You dare to question MY tempo you insolent cellist! You're fired!) I feel like the stereotypical conductor would not at all be happy with having their mistakes in either waving the baton or in interpretation of the music pointed out to them. But they bloody well should be open to that. Why? It comes back to what I said the conductor's main job is: getting the best possible performance out of the orchestra. Even if the conductor did not make a mistake - their baton waving or interpretation was perfectly valid - they should still be open to questions. Because they should be utterly dedicated to getting the best possible performance to happen, and this requires being open to possible mistakes so they can fix them, and it requires helping your performers to understand your interpretation and get on board with it.
    I think there are some, not many, pieces where rapport with the audience makes the piece better. For example, I was in a choir when the flautist playing the rising scale in the Papageno/Papagena song in The Magic Flute got a bit excited and fudged the final note of that scale. The public laughed a bit and we carried on. A little later, the harpsichord plays the same phrase, and the harpsichordist deliberately fudged the last note of the run in exactly the same way, getting a huge laugh from the audience. That was fun and appropriate. But, and perhaps I'm a bit too serious about music, generally I don't see a role for the audience and the orchestra to play off each other. It might be fun to do that, but is it really leading to the best possible performance? I'm not a total Grinch. It may be possible - and even preferable - to do this in a careful and appropriate way, but it seems to be a risk to me. (I'm primarily a composer, musically speaking, so having performers play my music exactly the way I wrote it in exactly the style I was intending is really important to me. I've certainly been in choirs where the conductor was incredibly cavalier about the composer's instructions, which always grates.)
    "Maestro," is not pronounced my-ESS-tro, it's pronounced MY-stro.
    Nice to see the brief clip of Stravinsky conducting 🙂

  • @dantespeakdigital
    @dantespeakdigital Рік тому +5

    Firstly, your channel is amazing. Just found it today! Thank you so much!
    As a principal trumpet in orchestras for nearly a quarter century, I’m sad to say that at least 50% of conductors who have taken the podium in front of the 6 professional orchestras I have served in are completely unqualified to do so.
    As you basically said, the conductors primary role is to help the orchestra play together and to galvanize 100 people to support a single cause in a short amount of time. I believe that this could be most easily accomplished by the following:
    1. Solid technique/clear ictus - too many conductors don’t have this or even strive to develop it. They conduct for themselves and the audience, not for us. When we don’t play together, it’s always our fault, never theirs.
    2. Mutual respect - They condescend and often speak to the orchestra like we didn’t go to music school or study the same things that they did. They tell stories during valuable rehearsal time that nobody wants to hear. Guest conductors want to make a career out of Beethoven 5, using every last minute of rehearsal time to ‘craft’ a piece we’ve all played thousands of times.
    3. Conduct the score- I call it the ‘Maestro Syndrome’ which is basically when conductors rewrite the score in order to put their (often times perverted) ‘stamp’ on a work- dramatically changing dynamics and articulations, etc. Of course, there is a significant margin of ‘interpretation’ without doing these things, but they do it anyway. Often times, they are guest conductors who think that they know a concert hall better on their first day than the musicians who play there weekly. Symphony orchestras are aural museums of fine art. What many conductors do is the visual art equivalent of an art curator presenting the the Mona Lisa with a cigarette hanging from her mouth, or worse. The oversteps are breathtaking.
    Then you have the fear vs encouragement models. The NY Phil could not possibly be covering a broader spectrum, going from vanZweden (arguably the most musician-unfriendly, overrated and overpaid conductor in modern times) and Gustavo Dudamel (celebrated by audiences and musicians alike, clear, encouraging, and a basically super nice and modest person).
    In order to become a full time symphony orchestra player, you need to become a great musician first. Sadly, the evidence just does not support the same being true for full time conductors.
    Thanks again for the channel. It’s on my binge watch list!

    • @christopherwagner2395
      @christopherwagner2395 11 місяців тому

      This was almost exactly my experience as a professional musician as well. I remain amazed by the misconceptions the general public holds regarding the value conductors bring to an ensemble, which is often close to nothing.

  • @BobMetivier
    @BobMetivier 11 місяців тому

    Such great stuff, and very humbling to take in!

  • @richoneplanet7561
    @richoneplanet7561 11 місяців тому

    Your content is just fascinating - I just love your videos

  • @ReedRobins
    @ReedRobins Рік тому +1

    Outstanding Nahre! Absolutely wonderful.

  • @PassengerInMortality
    @PassengerInMortality 10 місяців тому

    I love your videos! You explore such interesting topics. As a professional conductor, I found this to have covered almost all the bases without doing an hour video. Good job!

  • @plo3168
    @plo3168 Рік тому +1

    What a clear and concise way to explain what a conductor does. There's really no feeling quite like it

  • @joshuapowers8446
    @joshuapowers8446 Рік тому

    this was so fascinating! Thank you so much:)

  • @gorogorotodoro
    @gorogorotodoro Рік тому

    Great interview and video!

  • @ElbphilharmonieHamburg
    @ElbphilharmonieHamburg Рік тому +2

    Thank you for these beautiful insights!

  • @allwinds3786
    @allwinds3786 Рік тому +1

    As an amateur player for over 50 years in the pit or concert hall I have had more than enough experience to tell a good director/conductor and have walked out on only one. The rehearsal is my favorite place in the world.

  • @ezraschwartz5201
    @ezraschwartz5201 Рік тому

    What a fantastic presentation!!! thank you!

  • @Mr_A_Mia
    @Mr_A_Mia Рік тому +1

    Dope video. Thank you so much!👏🏾

  • @SteveHarmony3
    @SteveHarmony3 Рік тому

    Great video! Thanks for giving a behind the scenes perspective!

  • @richardwilliams473
    @richardwilliams473 Рік тому +2

    Alan Gilbert is amazing to have gone from playing rank and file violin to be an accomplished conductor
    BRAVO

  • @hola.juanma
    @hola.juanma Рік тому +1

    Bravo! Very important points touched in this video.

  • @honeysoi
    @honeysoi Рік тому +1

    Thanks a lot Nahre, your videos are always exciting and didactic.

  • @rrrrrrtt1
    @rrrrrrtt1 Рік тому

    Your videos are superb. Thanks for sharing!

  • @ThatAdamGuy
    @ThatAdamGuy Рік тому +1

    Nahre, you*, um, conducted (and edited!) that interview masterfully! Really a joy to watch and listen 🙂
    * Ah, I'm seeing props also are in order for Julius and Martino!

  • @sauletto1
    @sauletto1 Рік тому

    This was very enlightening ... Thank you for this video !

  • @DojoOfCool
    @DojoOfCool Рік тому +3

    I never thought to much about conductors most my experience had been with big band leaders. I used to work in the music school known for it arranging and composing program and every week students had to write an arrangement and conduct it wth the big band sometimes augmented with strings. At the time I was the person who recorded the students performance for them and I actually had a little setup next to the conductor's podium. It was the end of the program and student were composing and arranging for full band and strings, and full woodwinds and brass about fifty instruments. One of the better student wrote an original pieces with lots of time signature changes and dynamics, very complex. They did the first runthrough and piece was amazing the head of school was impressed but one big problem conducting the piece was beyond what the student could handle. The school conducting teacher happen to be hanging out so the head of the school asked him to conduct the piece for the student. So the conducting teacher a working pro from the studio gets the score and a minute or two to look it over. Then they run the piece again and I was blown away by the difference with a real conductor and watching the him conduct all the time signature changes. Especially when with one hand keeping the current time going for main band then with other hand prepped the new time signature for the section of the the strings to come in at. All this from looking a students hand written score for a minute or two. When done everyone was blown about by the student piece and how it came together with a real conductor on the podium. Since then I've had a whole new world of respect for conductors especially those from the film and TV world always working on new music and pulling large ensembles together quickly to record. Or the one conducting to the running film so all the musically hit are insync with the film. Yes, this was all before computers real musicians and conductor recording to tape.

  • @jgwmain
    @jgwmain Рік тому +4

    I am so honored as a lifelong musician to be able to gain such wisdom from such honorable human beings. Thank you.

  • @tonytsao1986
    @tonytsao1986 Рік тому +1

    ❤❤what a great articulate approach !

  • @sambochen2010
    @sambochen2010 Рік тому

    Awesome video Nahre. I learned a lot. I thought I saw Stravinsky footage in there conducting. Keep this kind of video coming cuz they're very entertaining and educational. Thank you so much Nahre.

  • @ericleiter6179
    @ericleiter6179 Рік тому +11

    Thank you for sharing this! It was fascinating on many levels...on the history section, I am not sure that the picture of Weber was actually Carl Maria von Weber if that's who you meant, but it's a minor detail, I really learned a lot from this project and the exclusive interview with Alan Gilbert was amazing!

    • @ProfDrislane
      @ProfDrislane 10 місяців тому

      Max Weber? He was not a composer me thinks..

  • @jarrodf_
    @jarrodf_ 25 днів тому

    Of the half a dozen videos I watched on this topic, this was by far the most illuminating and insightful.
    As a bonus, in Nahre I've discovered a wonderful musical composer, performer, presenter and teacher (however well beyond my sophomoric abilities). (That said teacher happens to be quite photogenic is perhaps another harmonic bonus, so to speak.)

  • @JamesUnityFuchs
    @JamesUnityFuchs Рік тому

    fantastic.......Nahre Sol, you have created a wonderful youtube channel. Its both artistic and informative, educational, and most of all, creative. Bravo!!!

  • @kimlindseyOH
    @kimlindseyOH Рік тому

    Wonderful video! I remember when Mr. Gilbert was here with The Cleveland Orchestra, near the beginning of his career - I had a pretty good view as an usher & also as a member of the Chorus, and for sure I never saw his hand shaking! Such a polished conductor, even then!
    I kept expecting you to talk about the study that all good conductors put in - maybe that was part of the "having a plan" topic? It amazed me to learn how much time they put in, studying the scores & different versions of the scores, how a work has been performed in the past (whether that's good or not so good), searching out anything they can find about the composer's original intention and what their markings meant, what being "true to the period" for a piece means and making an informed decision of whether to align with that or not, whether to be influenced by current trends or not ... just so much learning and analysis before a single rehearsal takes place.
    Thanks for posting this! 🙂

  • @theoooms7277
    @theoooms7277 Рік тому

    what a great and interesting video, thank you so much!

  • @Dianelee999
    @Dianelee999 Рік тому +1

    Brilliant topic 💜

  • @fatar9075
    @fatar9075 Рік тому +2

    Very well done!

  • @51bpm
    @51bpm Рік тому +1

    Awesome insights... Thanks so much

  • @EdoPortugal
    @EdoPortugal 11 місяців тому

    So instigating to think music through these perspectives. As a non-classical music producer, I’ve learned a lot. Thanks for the video

  • @MrJdsenior
    @MrJdsenior Рік тому +5

    1:43, on the steps at right? One of the things I think a conductor brings, from a non professional standpoint is to bring tons of energy and scope which he transfers to the orchestra, seemingly almost magically. Standing there waving that baton they VERY MUCH have large variance in personality that transfers from their baton, hands, FACES, entire body motions like leaning in or back, communicating subtle things to the musicians.
    This might be less important with top pro musicians than amateurs though, I don't know. I can see why people like this conductor's interpretations. I love hearing pieces in new ways, and he very much checks that box. And I have so noticed his point about peaking.
    His comment on being a fraud was funny. If you see a musician raise their head, lean it back, and obviously go into a smelling mode you would wonder if they were after you, the guy beside them that chinced on the pit rub, or some gal that perfumed heavily, which is a BIG no no since some people have allergies, for those that don't know, you are actually required to forgo that practice at all by many conductors). :-) Conductors provide even down to those details, for amateur musicians anyway, pros obviously know all that sort of thing.
    Interesting interviews.

  • @DAMNITRI
    @DAMNITRI Рік тому +1

    that was so insightful ❤️

  • @jonathandore7521
    @jonathandore7521 11 місяців тому

    Great video with thoughtful and interesting contributions from all your interviewees. I think the greatest misconception the general public have about conductors is that the performance is everything they do -- a misconception fed by TV shows such as "Maestro" (2008), which basically gave the impression it was all about learning to beat time in front of an orchestra, like sitting at a disklavier and miming playing the piano. What they don't realize is that 95% of a conductor's work takes place in the rehearsal, and before that in learning the piece, and before that in developing a lifetime's hinterland of knowledge of repertoire, and how music works, so that when the performance takes place, the conductor actually has something worthwhile to communicate to the audience.

  • @peterthomas22
    @peterthomas22 Рік тому

    Great video Nahre, thanks.

  • @DorothyOzmaLover
    @DorothyOzmaLover Рік тому

    Great content as always which is why Nahre owns this musical entertainment corner.

  • @chloejoannet9228
    @chloejoannet9228 Рік тому +3

    If I might venture that say: the traject from day one to premiere is also the art of building a network of peoples working towards the same goal…. A conductor might not be able to realise a difficult work without the network build up of time and the turpitude of daily practice, as a catalyst for the right interaction between musician…making a good conductor definitely an enabler for the group…

  • @elevate-academic-club
    @elevate-academic-club 5 місяців тому

    Between this video and the one on your lessons learned from music school, I find alot of these points to be applicable as general life lessons as well

  • @SkankHunt-ly6xw
    @SkankHunt-ly6xw Рік тому +1

    So interesting, thank you!

  • @tuncelgulsoy3845
    @tuncelgulsoy3845 Рік тому +1

    Thank you very much, I believe that every leader should watch this program once after brushing their teeth and eating breakfast. Very inspirational ❤

  • @bernardtanpianist
    @bernardtanpianist Рік тому

    Wonderful insights! As a pianist and conductor I’ve always wondered how does the conductor in me influence my playing on the piano.

  • @richardr.6030
    @richardr.6030 Рік тому +1

    Gilbert fan here....I just heard N.Y.Phil last night(and Friday morning concert) Bartok,Sibelius,Stravinsky in the great new hall @ LincolnCenter...it was may one of the Great $ounding rooms with an optimal Maestro view..I'm still charged up!

  • @vanvidra
    @vanvidra Рік тому +11

    The Weber you included in the list of composers is Max Weber the sociologist:))

    • @2nd3rd1st
      @2nd3rd1st Рік тому +2

      3:45 true en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Weber
      did she mean Carl Maria von Weber?

    • @vanvidra
      @vanvidra Рік тому +4

      @@2nd3rd1st I guess. I searched myself and there isn't really anyone else that fit the bill

  • @CAVIC1
    @CAVIC1 Рік тому

    as a solo musician, being presented to a vision of music so different a so much bigger than mine, in so many ways, will for shure change the way I play. thank you nahre!

  • @ESKARGAMES
    @ESKARGAMES Рік тому +9

    I swear we must be on similar wavelengths lately Nahre. Right before your video on confidence I was also seeking info and learning much about confidence, and then I just finished a book by a student of Leonard Bernstein named John Mauceri on conducting for insights to help me be a better cellist and I came across many of the same realizations you have in this video and a few more as well.
    It makes me feel like I am doing the right kind of work to become the musician aspire to be to see you seeking the same knowledge and coming to similar conclusions. I appreciate all your efforts and work.
    Did this experience spark any interest in conducting for you? For me it created a strong interest in learning more and maybe even trying my hand at it someday.

  • @matthewdowney5471
    @matthewdowney5471 Рік тому +2

    When I took my conducting classes our teacher emphasized that we should be superfluous in a performance. Our job was to get the orchestra rehearsed so well that we could give a downbeat and walk off and the performance would be the same as when we are waving our arms about in front of the audience.

  • @gregh99
    @gregh99 Рік тому

    I am a fan of Alan Gilbert, not just for his passion and wisdom on conducting, but for his proper use of language (e.g. he said "there are times", instead of "there's times").

  • @kennethmackinnon1385
    @kennethmackinnon1385 Рік тому

    Useful perspective on the benefits of thinking about music as a conductor. Something I hadn't considered before. Thanks.

  • @filmscorefreak
    @filmscorefreak Рік тому

    Great presentation. Thanks.

  • @edwardkendall3905
    @edwardkendall3905 Рік тому +1

    Love your articles!

  • @jgamez5023
    @jgamez5023 Рік тому

    Thank you. This was great!

  • @fineartz99
    @fineartz99 Рік тому +1

    Fascinating !

  • @zerosum1290
    @zerosum1290 Рік тому

    thank you nahre!!

  • @FrancescoDAndrea
    @FrancescoDAndrea Рік тому +1

    Nice episode. Nahre please consider doing an episode on film composing interviewing John Williams !

  • @sledgehammer-productions
    @sledgehammer-productions Рік тому

    I was kicked out of choir directing school (8 years ago), today I lead (not for the first time) a small vocal ensemble (that I usually just sing in) and someone from the audience complimented me on my good leadership. I'm feeling proud, and lucky, and blessed.
    And I started violin lessons (at 53 yo), but I should mention this at twosetviolin :D
    I loved this video!

  • @srothbardt
    @srothbardt 11 місяців тому +1

    Alan Gilbert makes some excellent points.