Hi Floyd!! You did a fantastic report here. Really happy to see Zynthian in your list. We are working to improve zynthian sequencer very soon. Stay tuned!! The best!
Thanks! That's great to hear. The sequencer is already very useable, but e.g. scrolling and zooming for entering longer sequences would super nice to have. I can imagine that's a quite complicated thing to implement.
Nice video! That Vox guitar seems totally cool… and I’ve still been holding off my GAS on the Woovebox, but not sure for how much longer before I break and get one…
Here's a thing: If buying gear makes you happy, then that's what you are: happy. ;-) The more happy people in the world, the better for all of mankind. You have to consider the greater good here. Ok, I'll show myself the door, thank you. ;-)
Soooo ... why is it these "no clue guys and gals" do the most interesting vid on youtube ... these are really informative and attractive at least to me ... soooo there goes a "big thank you" 🌻🥀 to you
Fellow Motor Synth owner here... I understand that the appetite for upgrading might be untenable when there's so many other cool toys. However, the Mk II might actually be worth it if you love the sound. For example, it has this clutch functionality that once you get it, you start to wonder why every keyboard doesn't have it and how long before all future ones do. Also, the third digital voice dramatically expands the color palette.
I saw the MK2 on Superbooth '22 and came away impressed. I'd really like to own one, but it's totally out of question for me. If the decision is "a nice vacation with my family or another nice synth" then the answer is obvious ;-)
@@mr_floydst if you want to experience the joy vicariously, I cannot recommend the series of Mk II deep dive videos Tom did on the GCA UA-cam channel enough. Each one ends with a fog jam. Chills!
I was a Kickstarter supporter for version I. After a long wait (not complaining - I understand that things take time) MKII was announced even before I had my MKI with no opportunity to upgrade. I would have upgraded if for no other reason than to get the vocoder. Let alone all the other cool stuff. I understand that they discovered new things along the way to developing the first MotorSynth, but shouldn’t those of us who put our faith and cash in this company have had an opportunity to pay the difference to move into a MKII? I guess that’s the risk of offering ring early support for a thing that’s still in development.
@@retrothingyou're sadly not the first person to express this, and if the MkII was announced before you got your MkI, I appreciate how seriously pissed off you likely felt - especially if you did not have the opportunity to pay the difference. I think that they got that wrong. However, beyond that the issue is nuanced. The early bird price on IndieGogo was US$899, and today a MkII sells for $3299. What this tells me as a hardware designer is that they likely f'd themselves pretty hard to the degree that it could have sunk their small company. That $3299 tag reflects a number that is much closer to what the device should have cost on IG to come anywhere close to breaking even. Even though it's an expensive device, I would bet my dinner that it's not a cash cow. Not only is the BOM expensive and the thing is built like a tank, but I'm willing to bet that they spent a few hundred grand in R&D on a device that might sell 1500 units. A cynical person would say that GCA shouldn't use subsidized presales to fund development, but I would say that a) that's entirely the point of platforms like IG and KS which are NOT STORES and b) that I've gotten to know them over email and through watching videos and there is a 0% chance that anyone on their end had anything like nefarious intent. They are just a small team of deeply passionate and uncommonly stylish geeks that are trying to leave their mark. To that end, getting a MkI for $900 seems like maybe you got a steal, even though your brain chemicals were telling you otherwise because so many companies in this world (and this music gear space) treat us like we exist to drive their profits. Sometimes it really is just that engineers are typically very bad at estimating.
The most useful thing I ever bought is an Helix stomp. I use it both as 5 i/o + usb interface at home and as a pedalboard when i gig. I sold my mixer, my interface and all my pedals for 4X its price and never sounded so good. Does the R20 have midi tracks for external gear?
I like the R20 because it's very quick to come up with something on. Audio quality is very good. Just be aware it can't do 48kHz and 96kHz. That's something professional musicians might find important. The Zoom L series can do that.
I'm not a live performer. I like to sit down and write a song with intro, chorus, verse, and all that stuff. Adding guitar and vocal tracks. Recording the piano. Taking my time to work on details. MPC is the best box to do that and once you know it, you get results quickly. I could use a DAW of course, but I often find something will distract me or annoy me (hello driver updates, malfunctioning audio interfaces, and other unexpected and unpleasant surprises) Digitakt and the likes force you to think within their confines. I see how that can be inspiring and force you to leave your comfort zone, but it also means certain things are not possible. MPC One has very few of those limitations.
You’d be surprised of the amount of people who buy the stuff to own it and rarely use it. Not sure which is worse, that or buying the stuff to review it in the hopes of getting more stuff for free. I do feel sad when the people buy the stuff to fill a dream rather than a purpose, only to let go of the stuff when they realize the dream is still unfilled.
Thanks for watching! I'm not judging anyone, to me, everything that makes you happy is a good thing. Buying synths to put them on display because they represent your childhood dreams? I can totally see why people are happy with that. Reviewing synths in hope to get free gear? Well, why not. People like gear shows, if you're an entertaining person and people like to hear you talk, that's a win-win situation. ;-) (BTW, most of the synths I used on this channel I bought on eBay and sold them again later. My idea is to find old stuff that people don't talk about a lot but that could hold value in a typical modern desktop setup. So far, free gear is a rare occurence)
@@mr_floydst There’s always that but if there’s someone in desperate need for a heart transplant and some chinese business man buys the one suitable for the operation to display it instead, you feel a bit different about it all the sudden. Not to say everyone should be able to afford a Jupiter 8 but I do believe there are people that absolutely shouldn’t. And buying a device with the hopes of what it can do for you vs. the reality of what YOU can do with it is another thing. Just buying an MPC doesn’t make you a world class boom bap producer instantly, even if the device had the capability to do that. But many people buy into that dream instead of thinking what they actually need to fill that dream.
@@pirateradioFPV Yes, I can see your point. Buying the instrument doesn't make you an artist, and a Stradivari is best left in the hands of a Paganini. But in order to become an artist, you'll need an instrument. ;-)
The R20 has an important function in reminding me not to hoard too much gear: Whenever I can't record all synths needed simultaneously any more, I know I gave in to GAS too much. ;-) I've bought XLR adapter cables for my synths so I can record 4 of them max in stereo.
Those yamaha sinthes look like brand new and work properly... I have yamaha drum machines from same era but don't work any more and no-one even try to fix them 😢 the zinthian is awesome , I'm gonna buy it soon 🎉 would be great if you share where you can buy the mini raw devices.
Thanks for watching! I'm shocked to hear no one wants to repair your old synths. Perhaps post a request online somewhere? I'll add the links to all the stuff in this video...
Oh, the links are all in the video's description already, but here they are again Yamaha EX5 www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=yamaha+ex5 Woovebox: www.woovebox.com/ Kasser Synths Arcade www.tindie.com/products/kassersynths/dafm-synth-arcade-ym2151/ Intech GRID: intech.studio/ MPC One, Novation PEAK, Reface DX, Source Audio Collider, Strymon Iridium, Zoom MS 70 CDR, Donner N-25, Akai EWI USB, Zoom R20, Zoom H5, Yamaha MT7, Roland Aira: www.thomann.de/de/thlpg_3wyepuh6gg.html
@@mr_floydst they only repair brand new or pro synths, old retro stuff they dont even touch it or want tons of money for it ( I'm in Mexico). Il try online request as you mentioned. 💡
Hi, thanks for watching! You're right, it's gone. It has quite the functional overlap with MPC One, and while it's a really well-crafted hardware with a great firmware, it started living in my drawer after I bought the MPC. So I thought someone else is going to put this to good use ;-) I'd really like to re-visit BB now, years later. Back then, it had some shortcomings I heard they mostly fixed in the meantime.
Hi Floyd!! You did a fantastic report here. Really happy to see Zynthian in your list.
We are working to improve zynthian sequencer very soon. Stay tuned!!
The best!
Thanks! That's great to hear. The sequencer is already very useable, but e.g. scrolling and zooming for entering longer sequences would super nice to have. I can imagine that's a quite complicated thing to implement.
Your channel is a hidden gem! Thank you for your interesting, informative and entertaining videos! :)
Thanks for watching!
Loved this. Thank you for taking us through your equipment. It was very interesting, and inspiring also. You clearly love what you do, and it shows.
Thanks for watching!
Zynthian might be in my future for acoustic instrument patches
It's not bad for that (with it's soundfont support)
Nice video! That Vox guitar seems totally cool… and I’ve still been holding off my GAS on the Woovebox, but not sure for how much longer before I break and get one…
It's a fun thing to have for sure!
Enjoyed this a lot! The chainsaw cut was nice :-)
Thank you very much!
I will make you personally responsible for (me) buying too much gear!!!1!1!2!!!
Here's a thing: If buying gear makes you happy, then that's what you are: happy. ;-) The more happy people in the world, the better for all of mankind. You have to consider the greater good here.
Ok, I'll show myself the door, thank you. ;-)
Soooo ... why is it these "no clue guys and gals" do the most interesting vid on youtube ... these are really informative and attractive at least to me ... soooo there goes a "big thank you" 🌻🥀 to you
Thanks for watching!
Dreaming of The Queen.
... visiting for tea ...
Fellow Motor Synth owner here... I understand that the appetite for upgrading might be untenable when there's so many other cool toys. However, the Mk II might actually be worth it if you love the sound. For example, it has this clutch functionality that once you get it, you start to wonder why every keyboard doesn't have it and how long before all future ones do. Also, the third digital voice dramatically expands the color palette.
I saw the MK2 on Superbooth '22 and came away impressed. I'd really like to own one, but it's totally out of question for me. If the decision is "a nice vacation with my family or another nice synth" then the answer is obvious ;-)
@@mr_floydst if you want to experience the joy vicariously, I cannot recommend the series of Mk II deep dive videos Tom did on the GCA UA-cam channel enough. Each one ends with a fog jam. Chills!
I was a Kickstarter supporter for version I. After a long wait (not complaining - I understand that things take time) MKII was announced even before I had my MKI with no opportunity to upgrade. I would have upgraded if for no other reason than to get the vocoder. Let alone all the other cool stuff. I understand that they discovered new things along the way to developing the first MotorSynth, but shouldn’t those of us who put our faith and cash in this company have had an opportunity to pay the difference to move into a MKII? I guess that’s the risk of offering ring early support for a thing that’s still in development.
@@retrothingyou're sadly not the first person to express this, and if the MkII was announced before you got your MkI, I appreciate how seriously pissed off you likely felt - especially if you did not have the opportunity to pay the difference. I think that they got that wrong. However, beyond that the issue is nuanced. The early bird price on IndieGogo was US$899, and today a MkII sells for $3299. What this tells me as a hardware designer is that they likely f'd themselves pretty hard to the degree that it could have sunk their small company. That $3299 tag reflects a number that is much closer to what the device should have cost on IG to come anywhere close to breaking even. Even though it's an expensive device, I would bet my dinner that it's not a cash cow. Not only is the BOM expensive and the thing is built like a tank, but I'm willing to bet that they spent a few hundred grand in R&D on a device that might sell 1500 units. A cynical person would say that GCA shouldn't use subsidized presales to fund development, but I would say that a) that's entirely the point of platforms like IG and KS which are NOT STORES and b) that I've gotten to know them over email and through watching videos and there is a 0% chance that anyone on their end had anything like nefarious intent. They are just a small team of deeply passionate and uncommonly stylish geeks that are trying to leave their mark. To that end, getting a MkI for $900 seems like maybe you got a steal, even though your brain chemicals were telling you otherwise because so many companies in this world (and this music gear space) treat us like we exist to drive their profits. Sometimes it really is just that engineers are typically very bad at estimating.
The most useful thing I ever bought is an Helix stomp. I use it both as 5 i/o + usb interface at home and as a pedalboard when i gig. I sold my mixer, my interface and all my pedals for 4X its price and never sounded so good. Does the R20 have midi tracks for external gear?
The R20 doesn't have MIDI sync. Which is strange because it has MIDI in (over USB)
The R20 intrigues me. I'm looking for a more flexible audio interface than the FastTrack Ultra 8R I've got in the rack.
I like the R20 because it's very quick to come up with something on. Audio quality is very good. Just be aware it can't do 48kHz and 96kHz. That's something professional musicians might find important. The Zoom L series can do that.
You like the MPC one more than, digitakt of the zoom ar96. At which points?
I'm not a live performer. I like to sit down and write a song with intro, chorus, verse, and all that stuff. Adding guitar and vocal tracks. Recording the piano. Taking my time to work on details.
MPC is the best box to do that and once you know it, you get results quickly.
I could use a DAW of course, but I often find something will distract me or annoy me (hello driver updates, malfunctioning audio interfaces, and other unexpected and unpleasant surprises)
Digitakt and the likes force you to think within their confines. I see how that can be inspiring and force you to leave your comfort zone, but it also means certain things are not possible. MPC One has very few of those limitations.
You’d be surprised of the amount of people who buy the stuff to own it and rarely use it. Not sure which is worse, that or buying the stuff to review it in the hopes of getting more stuff for free. I do feel sad when the people buy the stuff to fill a dream rather than a purpose, only to let go of the stuff when they realize the dream is still unfilled.
Thanks for watching! I'm not judging anyone, to me, everything that makes you happy is a good thing. Buying synths to put them on display because they represent your childhood dreams? I can totally see why people are happy with that. Reviewing synths in hope to get free gear? Well, why not. People like gear shows, if you're an entertaining person and people like to hear you talk, that's a win-win situation. ;-)
(BTW, most of the synths I used on this channel I bought on eBay and sold them again later. My idea is to find old stuff that people don't talk about a lot but that could hold value in a typical modern desktop setup. So far, free gear is a rare occurence)
@@mr_floydst There’s always that but if there’s someone in desperate need for a heart transplant and some chinese business man buys the one suitable for the operation to display it instead, you feel a bit different about it all the sudden. Not to say everyone should be able to afford a Jupiter 8 but I do believe there are people that absolutely shouldn’t. And buying a device with the hopes of what it can do for you vs. the reality of what YOU can do with it is another thing. Just buying an MPC doesn’t make you a world class boom bap producer instantly, even if the device had the capability to do that. But many people buy into that dream instead of thinking what they actually need to fill that dream.
@@pirateradioFPV Yes, I can see your point. Buying the instrument doesn't make you an artist, and a Stradivari is best left in the hands of a Paganini.
But in order to become an artist, you'll need an instrument. ;-)
how does the r20 work out for synths when I aee it mainly only has XLR mic inputs? not so many stereo channels...? super video, thanks
The R20 has an important function in reminding me not to hoard too much gear: Whenever I can't record all synths needed simultaneously any more, I know I gave in to GAS too much. ;-)
I've bought XLR adapter cables for my synths so I can record 4 of them max in stereo.
Those yamaha sinthes look like brand new and work properly... I have yamaha drum machines from same era but don't work any more and no-one even try to fix them 😢 the zinthian is awesome , I'm gonna buy it soon 🎉 would be great if you share where you can buy the mini raw devices.
Thanks for watching! I'm shocked to hear no one wants to repair your old synths. Perhaps post a request online somewhere?
I'll add the links to all the stuff in this video...
Oh, the links are all in the video's description already, but here they are again
Yamaha EX5 www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=yamaha+ex5
Woovebox: www.woovebox.com/
Kasser Synths Arcade www.tindie.com/products/kassersynths/dafm-synth-arcade-ym2151/
Intech GRID: intech.studio/
MPC One, Novation PEAK, Reface DX, Source Audio Collider, Strymon Iridium, Zoom MS 70 CDR, Donner N-25, Akai EWI USB, Zoom R20, Zoom H5, Yamaha MT7, Roland Aira:
www.thomann.de/de/thlpg_3wyepuh6gg.html
@@mr_floydst they only repair brand new or pro synths, old retro stuff they dont even touch it or want tons of money for it ( I'm in Mexico). Il try online request as you mentioned. 💡
@@mr_floydst thanks 👌
No more blackbox on your setup?
Hi, thanks for watching! You're right, it's gone. It has quite the functional overlap with MPC One, and while it's a really well-crafted hardware with a great firmware, it started living in my drawer after I bought the MPC. So I thought someone else is going to put this to good use ;-)
I'd really like to re-visit BB now, years later. Back then, it had some shortcomings I heard they mostly fixed in the meantime.
Nice video Floyd
Thanks 👍
Enjoyed this very much and want a peak it sounds great 👍
Thank you very much! Yes, Peak is a fine synth. Definitely worth the money.
you got a view from me because of the title
Thanks. Hope it was worth the click. ;-)
Hi Dude. A question coud you send me the Database of Dramns for R24?
Please send me an email to fs@floydsteinberg.com
@@mr_floydst done
I'm not sure that arrived, can you please try again?