The Swedish national windband plays "Valdres march" by Johannes Hansen. Conductor: Nils-Gunnar Burlin. Live recording from Kalmar cathedral, August 8th, 2008.
@TheNitroBrandon That, my friend, is a Swedish kornett in E-flat. The kornett was derived from an army bugle and has an almost completely conical bore with straight sides and very little bell flare, and a funnel-shaped mouthpiece, like that of a french horn except shallower. This gave the kornetts a very sweet sound which contrasts heavily against the trumpets, and the two sections had very different functions; the kornetts having the melody and the trumpets stuttering out signals and fanfares.
I recalled this being played on one of the band clinics I attended in HS. Our band tried to attempt it but it was way too difficult for our wind section. Never heard it with the Swedish E-flat cornet. It sounds great and the soloist did a superb job! Haven't heard this in over 25 years. Brings back good memories of HS band. Enjoyed this alot. Thanks for sharing!
The Mickey Mouse Club used this tune in the early 1960s with these words: "I want to go to the moon!" "I want to go to the moon!" "I want to go there, because there's no air," "I want to go to the moon!" :)
my friend Josh, he's first chair, had it really nicely this week on his piccolo, most of the mordents and trills were there too. We have only had three practices, one every Sunday for two hours too. So he's gotten it in three weeks D':
@johantj it actually does make a difference, because orchestras, bands etc. are set up in a certain way so that each instrument can see the conductor properly - for instance a tuba player can only look round one side of their instrument, to see the RIGHT hand.
@snidelyutoob He is playing an Ahlberg & Ohlsson E-flat cornet. Ahlberg & Ohlsson was a swedish manufacturer of brass instruments between 1850 and 1959.
hey guys. Your band has great sound quality. Our band is thinking about playing this march for our spring concert. :) Any ways you guys sound fantastic! Go Band!
Not a flugelhorn - it's a Swedish cornet. It was the original solo instrument, but since they're hard to find outside of the Scandinavian Peninsula, the clarinet (Europe) and trumpet (USA) were substituted in foreign arrangements. I personally prefer the cornet.
@TheNitroBrandon The E-flat kornett was the melody-carrying 1st kornett, rather than a soprano obbligato player such as the E-flat cornet-à-pistons found in British style brass bands. The B-flat kornett played the 2nd (and in large bands 3rd) kornett part. In the all brass instrumented mounted artillery and cavalry bands of Sweden there was a small A-flat kornett (nicknamed "scream kornett" for obvious reasons) to play the soprano obbligato part.
@johantj Actually, yes, it does. There's scientific reasons behind which hand the conductor controls time (with the baton in the right hand) and affect (with the left hand). It has to do with the linking to one side of the brain or the other, which is opposite your dominant hand. So, while there is nothing "morally" wrong with holding the baton in the wrong hand, there is no denying that you are placing your own desires as a conductor ahead of what the ensemble needs.
@xxzhoutaixx Originally the solo is played on Eb kornett just like in this video, not clarinet, trumpet or piston cornet. Since "standard" wind band instrumentation of today doesn't include kornetts it has to be substituted in modern arrangements, unless you are lucky enough to have a band member who has one of these old beautys (and knows how to play it)!
Couldn't even hear the trumpets, and when ever they play, its the melody. Yes the the woodwind part is complicated but it needed to be light and soft for the melody line
@Swedbander well, hey gimme some leeway :) i said that cos i play tuba in an orchestra. the tuba i play has upright piston valves, so that was what i was thinking of when i posted that. but you are perfectly right in saying that...although i still believe that it is better, considering how an orchestra is laid out, for the conductor to PREDOMINATELY use his right hand for conducting. btw, i am not saying this to be mean to left handers (i happen to be a leftie myself) so no discrimination here!
@Nadz3813 Both tubas with front facing piston valves and those with rotary valves lean to the left, giving you a view to your right where you see the conductors LEFT hand best. Only tubas with upright piston valves leans to the right. Most conductors use different hands for different signs. In order to be able to make a proper performance of the piece you're playing, you have to have a clear view of BOTH hands. If you don't, you are facing the wrong way.
@TheNitroBrandon Also, like most older Swedish brasses the Kornett has a third valve that lower the pitch by 2 whole steps rather than 1,5 steps. This removes the need for the grossly out of tune 1-2-3 fingering, unless you want to play written low F. Some players also claims this reduces the need for triggering (which is good since the kornett lacks triggers anyway).
@johantj It just has to do with the left brain/right hand association, which according to neurologists controls our more concrete functions (like time, for example) and the right brain/left hand association, which is the side that deals with affect, emotion, expression, etc. I'm by no means an expert, that's just what I was taught. To my knowledge, eft-handed people have the same "hookup" between hands and brain. It doesn't change that the right hand is more "control" oriented.
NO! Rotary Eb Swedish Cornet, read posts from way back. Marching French horns or MELLOPHONES are straight horns with valves, there may exist rotary valves, but they are not that small. The tone for solo instrument is to open to be from the french horn class.
At the end you can see the conductor points at the soloist to bow, but he's off camera as he bows. This is the nicest rendition of Valdres I've come across, the cornet solo is so clean, and the dancing conductor makes this a favorite. Yes the venue is pretty lively and who knows about mike placement, so there is some lack of balance in the parts but I do think it's not the musicians...
@mitchelldeanway It is very clear that left and right makes a difference in the brain, however I think one should be very careful in extrapolating this fact onto the very specific action of conducting.
He refers to the tomato idiot in Veggie Tales. He -should- be referring to the cucumber idiot in Veggie Tales. Bob the Tomato does not play the sousaphone.
They're playing in a church...with really awful acoustics. My favorite recording of this march is the Eastman Wind Ensemble from around 1960, as I recall. Very clean, and recorded in a studio. FWIW, the composer Johannes Hanssen played baritone horn.
@mitchelldeanway It's good that I'm not conducting then. I'd be interested in any scientific report on this matter. I'm somewhat surprised that any such results can be properly established while science is still struggling with determining the reasons for the unequal distribution of fine motor skills. However, my experience from working with several left- and right-handed conductors is that other capacities, or lack thereof, are so important that this really is no issue.
@mitchelldeanway i think u are referring to a very general concept of the brain. if u r going to use science at least use it correctly. the thing about left and right brain only apply to higher level thinking. ur left hand is not any more artistic because the right side of the brain generally works more abstractly and artistically.
I hate the flute part on this song, and you can hardly ever hear it any way... This is a good recording, my conductor showed us in class. He thinks it's the "most correct"
Hello CrimsonGuardJay...the acoustics in the cathedral messed up the snare sound. The player was fine. By the way....how dare you use profanity on the same page as this wonderful music. Chances are very good that one of the band members wanted to show grandma their performance and then she reads your remarks....Good grief.
I learned this tune as a youngster in Ouachita Parish Jr High Scool in Monroe, La. about 1960-61. Always been a favorite.
@TheNitroBrandon
That, my friend, is a Swedish kornett in E-flat. The kornett was derived from an army bugle and has an almost completely conical bore with straight sides and very little bell flare, and a funnel-shaped mouthpiece, like that of a french horn except shallower. This gave the kornetts a very sweet sound which contrasts heavily against the trumpets, and the two sections had very different functions; the kornetts having the melody and the trumpets stuttering out signals and fanfares.
Hahaha I love the conductor's dance; adorable.
i love how the clarinets in this band really get into their runs and all that. i love watching musicians who get intobtheir music.
My favorite march.
this band director must be heaving so much fun
Played this in all south jersey concert band back in Febuary 1963. Albertus L Myers was our conductor. Thanks for Bringing back great memories.
I recalled this being played on one of the band clinics I attended in HS. Our band tried to attempt it but it was way too difficult for our wind section. Never heard it with the Swedish E-flat cornet. It sounds great and the soloist did a superb job! Haven't heard this in over 25 years. Brings back good memories of HS band. Enjoyed this alot. Thanks for sharing!
The Mickey Mouse Club used this tune in the early 1960s with these words:
"I want to go to the moon!"
"I want to go to the moon!"
"I want to go there,
because there's no air,"
"I want to go to the moon!" :)
I learned this tune as a youngster in Ouachita Parish Jr High Scool in Monroe, La. about 1960-61. Always been a favorite.Also a beautiful chapel!
very sweet trumpet sound, both section and soloist.
my friend Josh, he's first chair, had it really nicely this week on his piccolo, most of the mordents and trills were there too. We have only had three practices, one every Sunday for two hours too. So he's gotten it in three weeks D':
As someone who tried playing at the trumpet.................I thoroughly enjoyed this presentation. Thanks for up loading.
This arrangement for Concert Band was made by Glenn C. Bainum. Boosey & Hawkes Q.M.B. Edition No. 327.
@johantj it actually does make a difference, because orchestras, bands etc. are set up in a certain way so that each instrument can see the conductor properly - for instance a tuba player can only look round one side of their instrument, to see the RIGHT hand.
wow that sounds absolutely amazing
I am very, very impressed! A very nice recording of this piece! Great job, especially at the soloist, your sound is superb!
i play this in band... actually for a concert tomorrow.. sounds so cool....
i LOVE the solo
Love to hear your version.
that guy plays very nice!!
Det var vackert gjort! Bravo!
Oh dear, the wondrous woodwind parts got swallowed by the cavernous church accoustics
love the trumpet solo :3
@snidelyutoob He is playing an Ahlberg & Ohlsson E-flat cornet.
Ahlberg & Ohlsson was a swedish manufacturer of brass instruments between 1850 and 1959.
hey guys. Your band has great sound quality. Our band is thinking about playing this march for our spring concert. :) Any ways you guys sound fantastic! Go Band!
He's flugelhorn is AWESOME!!!!
Not a flugelhorn - it's a Swedish cornet. It was the original solo instrument, but since they're hard to find outside of the Scandinavian Peninsula, the clarinet (Europe) and trumpet (USA) were substituted in foreign arrangements. I personally prefer the cornet.
@TheNitroBrandon
The E-flat kornett was the melody-carrying 1st kornett, rather than a soprano obbligato player such as the E-flat cornet-à-pistons found in British style brass bands. The B-flat kornett played the 2nd (and in large bands 3rd) kornett part. In the all brass instrumented mounted artillery and cavalry bands of Sweden there was a small A-flat kornett (nicknamed "scream kornett" for obvious reasons) to play the soprano obbligato part.
@johantj Actually, yes, it does. There's scientific reasons behind which hand the conductor controls time (with the baton in the right hand) and affect (with the left hand). It has to do with the linking to one side of the brain or the other, which is opposite your dominant hand.
So, while there is nothing "morally" wrong with holding the baton in the wrong hand, there is no denying that you are placing your own desires as a conductor ahead of what the ensemble needs.
we're playing this in our middle school band, except less decorations!
@xxzhoutaixx
Originally the solo is played on Eb kornett just like in this video, not clarinet, trumpet or piston cornet.
Since "standard" wind band instrumentation of today doesn't include kornetts it has to be substituted in modern arrangements, unless you are lucky enough to have a band member who has one of these old beautys (and knows how to play it)!
oh my god, that flugelhorn
I wish I played that good.
A credible performance by this group of young people. The acoustics of a church are better suited to a pipe organ than a band, though.
Agreed
Couldn't even hear the trumpets, and when ever they play, its the melody. Yes the the woodwind part is complicated but it needed to be light and soft for the melody line
Ahaha so right. It happens though. That's a high B-flat at the end of the song, could be really hard if they've already played several songs.
@Swedbander well, hey gimme some leeway :) i said that cos i play tuba in an orchestra. the tuba i play has upright piston valves, so that was what i was thinking of when i posted that. but you are perfectly right in saying that...although i still believe that it is better, considering how an orchestra is laid out, for the conductor to PREDOMINATELY use his right hand for conducting. btw, i am not saying this to be mean to left handers (i happen to be a leftie myself) so no discrimination here!
@Nadz3813
Both tubas with front facing piston valves and those with rotary valves lean to the left, giving you a view to your right where you see the conductors LEFT hand best.
Only tubas with upright piston valves leans to the right.
Most conductors use different hands for different signs. In order to be able to make a proper performance of the piece you're playing, you have to have a clear view of BOTH hands. If you don't, you are facing the wrong way.
That's a Swedish E-flat cornet. It is derived from german flugelhorn design and has a more mellow and dark tone than a standard E-flat cornet.
i could've sworn that the solo at the beginning was a clarinet in the recording, not a hornet thingy o.O
wow great job you guys
had a bit of trouble staying together but its not like our band could do any better :)
I believe that would be caused by the fact that the reverberation lasts almost 3 seconds - it definitely blurrs up the drums.
@waffledude111111 It's different for all versions, originally it's a clarinet but the cornet has a cue for it I think it's all personal preference
@TheNitroBrandon
Also, like most older Swedish brasses the Kornett has a third valve that lower the pitch by 2 whole steps rather than 1,5 steps. This removes the need for the grossly out of tune 1-2-3 fingering, unless you want to play written low F. Some players also claims this reduces the need for triggering (which is good since the kornett lacks triggers anyway).
@johantj It just has to do with the left brain/right hand association, which according to neurologists controls our more concrete functions (like time, for example) and the right brain/left hand association, which is the side that deals with affect, emotion, expression, etc. I'm by no means an expert, that's just what I was taught. To my knowledge, eft-handed people have the same "hookup" between hands and brain. It doesn't change that the right hand is more "control" oriented.
oh my gosh, that was hilarious
Great job but where is the 4 bar drum solo at the begining of the piece!?
@larsev Thanks!
this song can be easy and hard for the flute part
NO! Rotary Eb Swedish Cornet, read posts from way back. Marching French horns or MELLOPHONES are straight horns with valves, there may exist rotary valves, but they are not that small. The tone for solo instrument is to open to be from the french horn class.
also, 3:21 the trombone player in the back his eye brows like to dance a lot =D
Jesus.....I WANT ONE. Ahaha
What kind of horn is he playing in the beginning? I've never seen that before.
agreed
We don't either, we're playing it at my school. Your conductor might have added it or it might be a different arrangement you heard/played.
The guy playing the cornet should have been allowed to take a bow at least!
Also why did they just start clapping during the off beats when they had the percussion playing? xD
At the end you can see the conductor points at the soloist to bow, but he's off camera as he bows. This is the nicest rendition of Valdres I've come across, the cornet solo is so clean, and the dancing conductor makes this a favorite. Yes the venue is pretty lively and who knows about mike placement, so there is some lack of balance in the parts but I do think it's not the musicians...
+philipem1000 mic?
+Jonah Angulo-Hurtig microphone yes
+philipem1000 ah okay cause I read mike
Jonah Angulo-Hurtig
Mike is a common term for microphone.
+philipem1000 to be honest, I've never seen it written as mike surprisingly. That's also being said as a music major haha
wat is that instrument at 2:35?
Why can't a conductor direct with the left hand? I had a great conductor in the 33rd Army Band in Germany who was left handed.
Ok. That reference was unknown to me.
0:42
John Cleese plays the clarinet.
@mitchelldeanway It is very clear that left and right makes a difference in the brain, however I think one should be very careful in extrapolating this fact onto the very specific action of conducting.
? I'm not trying to say it was played badly at all. I think it was played amazingly. It just reminds me of them.
There is no law against using the left hand to conduct...
He refers to the tomato idiot in Veggie Tales.
He -should- be referring to the cucumber idiot in Veggie Tales. Bob the Tomato does not play the sousaphone.
They're playing in a church...with really awful acoustics. My favorite recording of this march is the Eastman Wind Ensemble from around 1960, as I recall. Very clean, and recorded in a studio. FWIW, the composer Johannes Hanssen played baritone horn.
the conductor is conducting with his his left hand You don't conduct with your left hand
a marching french horn
Is it my imagination or does it sound like the conductor is struggling to hold everyone together?
i have to admit, the snare was way off.
@mitchelldeanway It's good that I'm not conducting then. I'd be interested in any scientific report on this matter. I'm somewhat surprised that any such results can be properly established while science is still struggling with determining the reasons for the unequal distribution of fine motor skills. However, my experience from working with several left- and right-handed conductors is that other capacities, or lack thereof, are so important that this really is no issue.
@mitchelldeanway i think u are referring to a very general concept of the brain. if u r going to use science at least use it correctly. the thing about left and right brain only apply to higher level thinking. ur left hand is not any more artistic because the right side of the brain generally works more abstractly and artistically.
Omg percussion quiet tf down
all french horns have are oom-pahs for like 75% of the song -.-
I hate the flute part on this song, and you can hardly ever hear it any way... This is a good recording, my conductor showed us in class. He thinks it's the "most correct"
Hello CrimsonGuardJay...the acoustics in the cathedral messed up the snare sound. The player was fine. By the way....how dare you use profanity on the same page as this wonderful music. Chances are very good that one of the band members wanted to show grandma their performance and then she reads your remarks....Good grief.
I like the piece, but the performance is much too slow and a Church definitvely not a good spot to play it!
That makes absolutely no difference!
That snare drum needs tuning and a better player... off beats, note drags, etc.
+Levi Britton the giant cathedral ceilings didnt help.
CGJ7755 Indeed :P
+Levi Britton sounds like for the venue, he could have used some more dampening for the acoustics. oh well haha
Jonah Angulo-Hurtig
It made the Cornett sound beautiful tho. xD
god i hate that cornet sound....oh well good job
It sounds way better than when it's played by a clarinet. Eb-cornets are some of the best sounding instruments ever made
Ridiculous conductor, very distasteful! He is bringing harm to his musicians.
And you get the award for THE dumbest youtube comment.