He's Trying To STEAL Our FREE Abandoned Airplane ! Ep3
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- Опубліковано 20 січ 2022
- Today on Rebuild Rescue we are attempting to get the engine to start again which means checking for air, fuel, and spark. While working on the plane a guest stops by and shares some more background information about the Cessnas history and we get a call from the old owner that could change the entire outcome of this project.
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I suspected from the very beginning the owner was gonna pull this. Nobody gives away free airplanes for nothing
Same and I hate flying lol
@@paulsheffield4729 Yep, this could end up in court. And since it is at least $20,000, it won't be in small claims court. Lots of legal fees. I'm sure he can afford it, because it will cost at least several hundred thousand dollars to put that airframe back into flyable condition....
Cut the guy in on your revenue from the videos featuring his airplane. I think at the very least you could offer. Could be more, could be less but the more videos you make until it's is started and yours, the more revenue from views. That way everyone wins
I really hope the "other guy wants to buy it" thing is real, as I am really fed up with all the fake videos on the internet these days. It was the reality of this show that made me watch it. If it is real then I agree with other comments, talk to the guy that wants to buy it and try and agree to rebuild it together on UA-cam. It would make an awesome TV series to see this fly.
I feel that you are a genuine person. Please remember you aren't on a big network episode of survivor and you don't have to set your video up with these dramatic scenes and secret phone calls to get us to watch you or your video, if the subject matter is even true at all (someone trying to buy and steal this plane). My suggestion would be to cut that crap out and keep it real for us all. I enjoy watching you and listening to your outlook on this rebuild.
Good call. Obviously we don't know exactly what's going on but I couldn't help but roll my eyes when I saw the "one sided pace around the hanger with a sad look" phone call.
Plane sits abandoned for 16 or so years and now someone wants to buy it??
The TLC, Discovery, HGTV drama crap is a real turn off.
@@KarlMarcus8468 not to mention the reaction- I don't know why, but something about it struck me as off, like it was overdramatized
Well said. Not a pro.. so just cut the drama.. and get it running.
Yeah it feels off. Now I'm waiting for him to ask if viewers can come up with $20,000 lol/ sad
Heck, I'll give you a buck to give to the old owner, after all we're getting content based on his generosity. I'm sure there's another 19,999 viewers who feel the same.
Screw whoever saw this and thought "yeah let's mess this up".
i got $5
I will not give the owner anything! they have a fucking contract....! if he runs the airplane ...airplane is his!.
I got 5$ too
@@northern_starr3859 I'll give $5 too
Heck, I'll give 2 bucks, lol
I worked on those engines quite a lot from my experience when they have not ran for a while you need to start them flooded especially since you're not 100% sure the fuel to air ratio is right here's how you should do it to get it started. First advance throttle to full power stop along with mixture to full rich position, then with the boost pump ON prime the engine until fuel starts coming out of the overflow on the ground and let it pour out for about 3 seconds. Turn the boost pump off then bring mixture to cut off that way it doesn't get any more fuel in the cylinders once you hit the starter. Leave throttle to max power then start cranking engine with the starter and mag switch ON if engine fires up, quickly bring mixture to full rich and back off throttle but not too much to keep it alive. That procedures floods the cylinders with gas and helps the rings to seal up since on those engines oil do most of the sealing on the rings. As far as oil pressure goes the gauge should start reading in a 30 seconds window if not then no oil pressure or the line is clogged up. It also needs to crank faster idealy to start it up but with the above procedure it should work. Don't abuse the starter, a max of 15 seconds should be enough or you'll burn it up. The turbo not spinning is not giving you any chances. Have someone with a fire extinguisher nearby, fuel on the ground might catch fire. Keep it mind it's got air, fuel and spark there's no reason why it would not start beside a starting procedure or an odd thing going on
I would contact the owner and see if he can remember who did the last annual inspection. They may still have a record of it. It could show the number of hours on the engines and the airframe. You may even be able to get a copy of that report.
Twice in my life I have had a similar offer, "you get it to run and and you can have it for x dollars" I fell for it the first time and put in the time, got it running and was told, "now that it runs the price is 10x". Lesson learned. Years later I was made a similar offer and I said "no, I will buy it broken and take the chance that it may not be fixable". After getting it started the fellow was furious with me that I had "stolen his truck". This generous offer that "it is yours if you get it to run" is usually code for "I am going to con you out of your time and cost of parts to fix my equipment". I think the tail number story is a guise to extort money for your own labor.
Exactly!!!!!!!
Best comment I’ve seen yet on the subject as I’ve seen the exact same!!!
Hah, Yes and yes, had the same thing with a motorcycle, guy said I'll give it to you, and I said, nope, I'll buy it for 50$, and a paper trail, then I repaired it, showed up with the repaired motorcycle and the guy was so pissed at me for fixing it! I can only imagine what would have happened if I didnt have the "paper trail"
He put it in writing if I recall correctly.
@@justinball2250 the only thing smarter than his mechanical troubleshooting was the foresight to write a contract
I'm sure 20,000 of the over 1 million people that have watched this would be happy to give a dollar each to see this stay with you. I'd be happy to part with $1 to see this project happen!
I’ll do it
Where can I donate that dollar 💵
I would donate a dollar too
I pledge $20. How can everyone contribute? If owner needs some money then send some his way after it starts and it’s yours. Shady f&$@#r that did this needs to be outed for the sleezy move he pulled. Plane needs to be kept out of his hands on principle!!!!
i will donate to see the start
I admire your guys' patience. This is one hell of a project.
Thank you Patrick !
My favourite comment in this video was
“I have no idea what this is but it looks pretty important so I am going to take it out”
😂 😂 😂
Top work brother.
Man, you should consider setting up a livestream during your work on the airplane, so you can interact and maybe get some useful advices exactly when they are needed, and it’s gonna be cool and new experience
This is a really good idea you had, i upvoted so maybe he sees it.
@@hzuiel same
Yeah, I agree as well! Everyone should upvote this comment!
I second this live stream suggestion
no he wont cuz its all fake horseshit
Instead of spending time freeing up the turbo just to see if the engine runs, just pull off the charge pipe. You don't need a turbo to start and run. Give the engine the air it needs, just eliminate the turbo for test purposes.
Agreed do that with the turbo. and do a search on fuel pressure. Get a fuel pump and regulator on a fuel can run line up to that junction and try to see what happens. If that is all you need is fuel that would solve that to see if it runs and cheap setup too
Ya but if he did that then he can milk the videos for more time and it won’t make as much money.
The problem with that is most of the time these kind of things have a map or maf sensor or a combination of two so it knows how much air is going in and out of the engine taking one off or the other would be very devastating for the aircraft's engine it may not even start even if you did that.
@@lmssoftware3130 is it possible then, that the map/maf sensor is bad or dirty, causing the problem?
@@lmssoftware3130 BS. at idle the engine is pulling vacuum, removing a turbo isn't going to change airflow enough to stop an engine from coming to life.
"I don't know what this is but it looks pretty important, so I'm gonna take it out"... That there is why you've got a new subscriber 🤣👍
With boost pump on you need to advance the mixture control for a couple of seconds to prime the engine and then pull it to cut off position. Crack the throttle and engage starter. Once engine fires advance mixture to full rich.
When you're "priming" the motor, you should see the fuel needle for flow move to the right showing a gph value. normally priming a injected engine is - booster fuel pump on -> mixture full rich -> wait till needle moves showing flow, count three seconds (this is the actual priming), then mixture off. For starting -(after successful prime) mixture off, pump on, crank till it fires, as soon as it fires mixture rich to keep it running, then lean it out (as needed) for taxi so as to prevent fouling plugs. Good luck.
Edit: and after it fires set rpm, and watch oil pressure gauge. no oil pressure in 10-15 seconds, shut it down.
This dog knows a lot about plane engines. Pretty sus if you ask me.
@@iamrumar Got a treat? I love 🥓
Actually on the continentals the electric boost pump is off for starting
@@iamrumar lots of people actually become airplane mechanics. Hell, its almost like the government has jobs for you to do so and will pay for the schooling.
@@Red1676 it was a joke. About the commenters name.
This is great. He's not claiming to know everything about everything and open to advice. Good luck, I'm hooked!
Me too
Same!
I'm not a pilot, nor do I play one on TV. :-) I live vicariously through watching flying videos, which is how I stumbled on this one. Now I'm hooked. Such a beautiful aircraft, shame that it was neglected the way it was. I hope you can get it fired up, even though I know that it's gonna cost big, big bucks to get her back up in the air. Good luck!!!
The back story at 16:28 made this video great. Hearing of all the interactions of people with this abandoned plane made it so much more interesting. Almost like this plane has become a piece of heritage of this airport.
Also a shout out to your use of ‘safety squints’. The true eye protection of any mechanic
Throttle lever and mixture lever need to be forward. I’ve done this so many times at work looking for fuel leaks after component changes. The FCU won’t pass fuel to the fuel divider and injectors if they are not at full RPM and rich mixture position. If you don’t do this the electrical boost pump will run dry and it can damage. Also PB blaster no bueno in the fuel divider, no oil or degreaser should be in there, only fuel.
As an A&P I love this series and even the misso is rooting for you to get it started. I hope you can get it done before the repo man turns up.
Also an idea would be setting up a patreon or some fundraiser. I’m sure if a quarter of the people who viewed this donated, even just a dollar, you could pay the owner more than what’s he’s been offered, and leftover money can go towards parts.
Good luck mate you’re closer than ya think
Count me in!!
Bump
Hope he sees it
How does degreaser and/or pb blast differ from fuel?
@@brandonchappell8545 Detergent.
Left us on such a cliffhanger, I hope to see an update soon! I wanna hear that engine run!
Good cliff hanger! Don’t worry most wont come back.
I hope the owner of the plane stays true to his word to you! Hope you get it running SOON.
I know absolutely nothing about aircraft mechanics but for some reason I’m so addicted to this series lol
Well if you've watched some of the video, congratulations, NOW you DO know something about aircraft mechanics!
@@jamieostrowski4447 I would love to work on them as a hobby, let me know if you need an extra hand to do a free intern with you.
Same. I had just told a friend I got sucked into the airplane side of youtube and good to see i'm not the only one!
Yupper!
I know nothing about the planes yet i am enjoying this.
Don't give up. By the way I have been around aviation for many years and I am not surprised someone is trying to steel this plane from you, there are a lot of A holes in the aviation world but the good thing is there are more good guys then bad. Hang in there and don't give up. Good luck!!!
Love the days of Thunder reference!! All time favorite movie. Love this content and can’t wait to watch them all.
Put the throttle and mixture full forward and use the switches labeled “prime”. If still no fuel there’s an issue with the diaphragm in the flow divider (the fuel manifold you took apart on top of the engine). Fuel flow is a measurement of pressure and not actual flow, it shouldn’t be getting that high, indicative of a blockage.
The fuel flow from the mechanical pump to the flow divider seemed good. It was a good amount of fuel considering the small squirts the injectors spray. That's why there is return line (the very rusty one) opposite the red inflow line that he checked, any excess fuel gets returned back to tank.
I have a strong feeling that the fuel is just not getting through the injectors via the flow divider.
Bingo! I am in agreement!
Dude, I'm Sooooo rooting for you! Don't ever get discouraged. You keep me at the edge of my seat the entire video. I wish these were longer.
You should check out Jimmy’s world
He does a lot of these projects and if you like this you’ll love his content
@@waterfallfarm5408 I’m watching he too.
Even if he does get the plane from underneath you, there's a lot of people watching your videos that can lead you to a better plane to work on. But yes its rude, and not how a man should go about doing things. And I hope that the airplane gods give him hell on this and any other planes he try's to buy steal or bags o take away from other individuals until he learns his lesson
@@waterfallfarm5408 I watch his channel as well.
Ok.. so the deal is getting it running... Pull some strings and get a specialist mechanic over to look at the engine/s. Could it bypassing fuel back to the tank so it doesn't flood the engine without ignition enabled? As Ron Brown said, we want you to succeed... You'll work through it... Any problem can be solved when enough money or effort is thrown at it ..
Incredible video series, plus you drop the odd Days of Thunder quote!
My new favorite channel!
Main requirements for this exercise, from this engineer / PPL
(1) Workshop Manuals for the Cessna 401 and the Continental engines
(2) Flame retardant boiler suit and spare pair of underpants
(3) Large (trolley size) portable foam fire extinguisher standing by, with watchman if possible
(4) Work to be done in the open, NOT in an enclosed hangar (so far as possible).
(5) Proper electrical connection, not crocodile clips !
I would have thought that there is no substitute for a complete tear-down and rebuild of each engine in turn.
But very best of luck. This is riveting stuff (pun intended).
Let this be a lesson to us all!
in the future, keep the tail number covered!
You nailed it !
Unfortunately it's too late at this point but I think if that was something I had considered and I was the one making the videos I would have completed the series before uploading it. That way the deal is already done the plane is already home and already under a new name.
I thought that like 3 videos ago.
@@VIP854 according to records, it's still owned by S&K with the same tail number. If you have some info that I can't see, please let us all know.
@@MikeStavola uhh I believe you may have misread my comment lol
Honestly I felt that coming, as soon as it was moved after sitting that long people would start wanting it
Humans, right?
More likely who ever got log books and paper work don't want too lose there ringer number for stolen or gazetted smuggling plane!
Greed always that's frist thing I thought when waching the frist one not right deal is deal
I mean ikr, haters man!!!
Quit goofin around, throw some oil in it. Run the prelube pump, Crack the throttle half way, jam an acetylene bottle on it for fuel, crank it over.
Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls God Bless Y'alls
I am totally impressed with your efforts to get that engine running. Astounding innovations come from people with dreams.
The only reason someone would pay $20k is to cannibalize it and part it out. We all know that aircraft will never leave the ground. The wing problem, no logs, and much more are preventing that.
To: Whomever is trying to buy it ..... let Rebuild Rescue finish out his dream to get that right engine running, then pay him for what he has in it, and then get on with your profiteering that knocks the feet out from under dreamers.
So Dan you don't think taking and posting a video to a popular video platform isn't profiteering? Also if you have watched Mike Patey you would know it can be rebuilt and flown again. Bud you should get out more. Turn your computer off and walk away. LMBO.
@@w.scottsherman1358 Out of all the posts and all the reasons to post..... you see the word "profiteering" and have an issue? Your last two sentences and the "LMBO" could have been your entire reply. It in itself explains your mindset perfectly. The rest would have been a known.
Actually what your saying is this guy that is trying to get it running is totally waisting his time. So your point is moot. You say that restoring it would be fruitless and cost you more than the plane was worth but yet you want him to finish getting the motor running now how intelligent is that?
@@w.scottsherman1358 Actually, I offered a resolution that favored the 20k purchase party. And here you are using hypothetical reasoning to define "why" someone does something? Why we do something is up to the individual. Not someone dictating their narcissistic standards of reasoning on them. Why he's doing it is what's moot.
Had Rebuild Rescue not posted the video's before completion he'd have the option to cannibalize and part out the plane. In all rights, his physical effort led to the purchase offer. The least he's owed is a sales commision. Without him neither the owner or the buyer would be negotiating a sale.
Jason:
Having reviewed all the comments, it seems to me they fall into one of three categories:
1. Those who know nothing of aircraft and aircraft engines offering dangerous and/or stupid advice,
2. Those who are supportive of your efforts but don't understand the Code of Federal regulations (14 CFR) that applies to aircraft certification/airworthiness and hence the economic unfeasibility of restoring this aircraft to flying status, and
3. Those who know aircraft values and are knowledgeable about this aircraft, it's systems, it's engines etc and are actually trying to offer helpful advice while totally understanding that there is not an economically feasible way to return this aircraft to flying status.
If one makes this a labor of love and pours $300,000 into the aircraft it MIGHT fly. Whereupon it will be worth about $150,000 on the market (no-logbooks, AD compliance etc, even with newly overhauled engines and accessories makes this a money looser). That is the type of situation you are looking at. The fact that there are no logbooks automatically discounts the sales price by $40,000-$60,000. Engine overhauls will be $50,000 to $60,000 per side, accessories like turbos etc will be about $10,000 per side, prop overhauls will be about $6,000 per side if all is ok or up to $35,000 per side for new if required due to corrosion (a real possibility). Aircraft stuff isn't cheap and it is escalating every day (along with everything else).
Prior A&P/IA comments are spot on for the most part. By the way, A & P = A for Airframe, P for Power plant, hence A & P. It is an FAA license for a holder of two licenses necessary to work on FAA certified aircraft, engine and airframe), whereas the IA license is an FAA Inspection Authorization. An IA is sort of a graduate degree in being an A&P with emphasis on inspecting and returning to service aircraft requiring FAA inspections, major modifications, or major repairs.
Some thoughts:
1. Check the compression of the cylinders, even if the engine is cold you will get an idea if there is adequate compression,
2. Verify the ignition system type on this aircraft. Per the typer certificate data sheet (TCDS) for this engine it can have either an impulse coupled magneto or a retard breaker type of magneto that has a starting vibrator associated with the retard breaker. Look at the data tag on the magnetos and get the Part Number, cross reference the PN to readily available references online and you'll know which type of mags you have. I am virtually positive yours will have the "shower of sparks" system with the starting vibrator and retard breaker so you will need to verify that system is working. Merely having a spark isn't enough to start, it must be timed to fire at near top dead center on the compression stroke for this engine to start. That retardment in timing to near TDC for starting is accomplished by either impulse couplings in the mag or by the retard breaker combined with a starting vibrator that puts out a continuous high voltage spark to the spark plugs during the starting process.
3. The fuel appeared to be making it to the flow divider (aka fuel spider, fuel distributor), but not getting through it. There is a poppet valve in that unit as others have mentioned, and I agree, that it is probably not working/opening, hence no fuel flow thru the spider. Once you have fuel output from the spider flush the injector lines and also remove and clean the injectors. There is no "fuel rail" on these 1940s era technology engines. They are continuous fuel injected (i.e. the fuel flows into the intake manifold continuously throughout the 4 cycles of the cylinder). The "fuel flow" gauge in this aircraft is a pressure gauge NOT A FUEL FLOW gauge. You can have a completely blocked fuel system (such as you have) and the gauge will read high "flow" as it is showing the pressure being built. More modern systems actually have fuel flow transducers that truly show fuel flow.
4. The electric fuel pumps are for priming and emergency use if the engine driven fuel pump fails. There is a bypass valve in the engine driven pump that allows fuel to flow thru the pump when the electric fuel pump is on. The prime switch merely activates the electric pump while held at high speed, whereas it should be run in low speed at all other times (at least that is how it is if the aircraft is configured according to Cessna Multi Engine Bulletin MEB 88-3, which most are).
5. Starting procedure for these engines: Mags On, Mixture full rich, Throttle wide open, prime engine for 3-5 seconds or so (if you see fuel dripping out the bottom of the cowl you went just a bit too long, no big deal if it isn't a huge puddle), return throttle to cracked position, "clear prop", crank the engine while advancing the throttle (you are trying to achieve a stoichiometric mixture), as you advance the throttle the air/fuel mixture will reach a combustable mixture and if everything is correct it should start.
Notes: I presume this aircraft is fitted with remote oil filters. Before attempting to start the engine remove the outlet hose from the oil pump that goes to the oil pump adapter. Verify there is oil in the pump outlet and the filter hose with oil, and if you changed the filter fill it with oil as well. These engines have been known to loose oil prime in the gear driven oil pump after sitting for long periods. You retrograde fill the oil pump by filling it thru the outlet fitting.
Hope these few hints help, and good luck. GSilver FAA Wright Brothers Award Recipient, 54 year pilot, A & P/IA, Owner, Pilot, Mechanic on Cessna 421B for 27 years. Never turned wrenches on a 401 but virtually all twin Cessnas are similar. Big bore Continental engines are all very similar. I note that many comments from some were related to Lycoming engine start procedures and they are usually somewhat different from injected big bore Continentals.
@GSMS524 Great post. I hope Jason @Rebuild Rescue see it and responds. I really want to see him succeed. I just hope it doesn't become too much of a financial burden to get what he wants and that the scumbag who's trying to steal this out from under him doesnt succeed!
Agreed! Spending money for lipstick to put on a pig does not change the fact that it is still a pig. Of course, he isn't even accounting for the reason the plane was grounded in the first place.
but if his videos trend and continue to be popular, the value of the plane to him is high because it can generate more revenue than the plane is worth from youtube moneys. 300k on trending builds like the tunnel proj, or abandoned mansion etc is rookie numbers, and that's probably why someone is trying to shark the plane off him, but granted also it's plausible that part is staged to push better traction of the project and thus more youtube monies.
So much
So basically, I need to tell UA-cam to stop recommending this to me because it's never going to fly.
this series has me glued to your channel, dont let it go, you got this man.
Same here
I'd have to disagree if the guy is hurting for money badly he should set up a go fund me for the guy so we can raise the money to pay him off. So everyone is happy.
Yep - Really enjoying this. Super interesting!
@@carey_metv How do we know you aren't simply shilling for the guy? But feel free to give your money to a grown man who can take care of himself. Makes perfect sense.
If you would have had the common decency to hide the number and protect the owner's privacy, would that have happened? Or was that the whole point of making these videos? To advertise the plane, and get it running simply for the content, which now has a higher degree of drama? I foresee you getting it running, then you 'decide' that it is not worth the cost to fight a legal battle and the cost of restoring and storing the thing in the first place. Maybe the new owner will end up 'giving you a little something' for your work. But you will gain X-amount of subscribers, and sooner or later you will be able to buy a mint condition example. Welcome to youtube, people. Perhaps you are starting to learn the game.
This is EXACTLY why you don't touch anything until you have a clear title...
I was surprised to open up UA-cam and see not one, but TWO new videos. This really passes the time at my job and very entertaining.
You have a contract with no time limit to have it started. You have every right to keep the aircraft and get it running, keep up the good work.
that makes sense unless there's where some overruling stuff in the contract like getting a bit of at least 20K to back out or paying 2.5K 'change of heart fee'
A series which I'm absolutely loving at the moment
Thank you sir , but who are you btw ?
I feel the exact same way
Yessir
So are we!
I feel the same!!!
You got this man we all know you can get it running!
I'm glued to your channel waiting for the next installment! I'm rooting for you to get it started!
Thank you for watching !
I can’t believe the nerve of some people. I understand the owners point of view, BUT!!!!!
I’m a A and P, have been since 1978 and if you were near me, I’d be there helping in any way I could. Hang in there.
How about the owner of UA-cam channel contact you and ask you to maybe you guys can talk over the phone call.
He could use your help. Call him. Or go visit him.
@Budd Smokegood That's another good point. I was thinking he can sue for breach of contract. Anyone who signs on will benefit from that.
There is a diaphragm and spring inside the fuel distribution block cover that is probably hard as a rock. That diaphragm is a valve that opens when fuel pressure is present. If the diaphragm is hard, it cannot flex enough to open the valve
Found this video thanks to UA-cam's algorithm and I absolutely love this! I am currently going to school to get my A&P License so videos like these are really cool to watch now since I actually understand the terms and the processes. Really cool to see someone working on planes in such detail. Can't wait to graduate and start making some big bucks! Keep up the awesome videos!
It's amazing what corrodes and what doesn't on old abandoned equipment!
Yeah it's odd, depends on climate and care. You'd be shocked how just where something sits or the climate it's in changes where it tends to corrode. Sun, time/not being used does terrible things to gaskets/orings.
I am rooting for you to get it started. From the UK and I check every single day for a new upload... The longer videos the better. Stay strong!!! You can do this
Same!
@@Kellysg126. Same
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He need to fire the engine, with thrust, Its not all about spinning blades buddy.
This isn’t as simple as you make it sound…
@@mx4menot4u why not? He already said it would probably start but he wants to do it the right way
@@InstantlyGratified if he wants to do it correctly he would have the overhaul manual (engine manual) opened and reading through procedures/steps. He’s skipping around to make it work. I guess whatever it takes to make it run, but he could be doing more harm then good.
It’s amazing the number of people who will believe anything someone on the internet tells them, and get all worked up about it, without any proof of anything. Trust but verify. In this case, no one can independently verify anything this dude has said about how he came across this plane, the owner, the “contract” or the prospective buyer.
Thank you for this comment!!
All this looks so fake and staged.
Especially the phone call part...
Looks like the perfect excuse to drop this project and say "somebody" bought the plane.
@@Supertapha Doubt it. Looks like a perfect excuse to start a GoFundMe to finance the "project" and bilk a bunch of gullible people out of money for something he knows will never fly again. The whole thing was a grift from the start.
@@Ispike73 That’s my working theory, too.
@@Ispike73 Your theory actually makes a lot of sense.
I would add that nothing happens in the videos.
In the first one you see him inflate the tires.
In the second one he (badly) cleans the engines.
In the third one, he plugs batteries on it.
Nothing moved in between the videos.
He worked 2 hours overall on this plane and tries to sell it as an "exciting project".
He surely spent more time video editing than on the aircraft.
Cessna 402C mechanic here. Pretty much the same engine.
Put your mixtures forward and turn it over again. If you get the full, proper fuel flow, i will laugh my ass off. 😂 And then i will cheer once you finally get this old gal running!
And if you need to remove the turbos, you can. It *will still fly* on nat-asp engines. It just wont have quite as much umph.
Also, next time you do a project like this, *hide the tail number.* Blur it, put a block over it. Hell, put a tarp or something on the tail. The whole V-stab & rudder.
That'l keep cvnts like that from trying to undermine your project.
Damn good airplane to own, if you can own it!
I'll never forget being a teenager and watching an owner at the local airport start his Skyhawk XP -- that's an IO-360 Continental engine. He would prime it until raw fuel was running out of the exhaust pipe, then he would crank it over. Those Continentals need a LOT of priming.
That's called DROWNING.
Look dude, Your viewer’s watch your channel because of the quality of the content. In my opinion I dont care if your working on a dump truck that needs repaired and driven all night or an airplane thats been sitting for years.
Sure the Cessna brings a certain amount of excitement because of its condition. But 20K for airplane that will need 50-60k in complete engine rebuilds, complete interior and the list goes on.
Dont get blinded by the potential awesomeness that this aircraft represents because it will come at an awesome pricetag. If the person was willing to undercut you and offer money for the plane. So be it. Let that guy spend his money on it.
If your viewer’s are absolutely drooling over the Cessna and you decide you must rebuild it. Then consider what Jimmy’s world is doing with his Save the 310. Sell stickers, hats shirts. Anything
What Im trying to say is dont get emotionally attached to a basket case!
Either way I will still be watching.
Maybe Jimmy is the one trying to buy it!!!
He doesn't strike me as emotionally attached in any way, that's just bad acting. It's pretty obvious it isn't financially worth it to rebuild it in it's own right, but based on the success of these videos, views and subscribers the income it's generating from the views might make it worth doing. Imagine the income stream from a series of videos that culminate in getting it flying again. And if the owner sells the plane to somebody, well he has still made money from the videos he has done. I'm pretty sure the channel owner isn't an idiot and knows what he is doing here.
@@ryanmitcham5522 Which makes it all the more insulting to our intelligence that they are pulling this TLC bullshit. That was as fake as a 3 dollar bill.
Initially I wondered what he wanted with the plane because it doesn't appear financially viable. Initially he said that it would never fly but later said that he wanted it to fly. Maybe the new owner already has a damaged one of these planes and wants to use this one for parts or wants to use his parts on this one. But I thought that the lack of records was another hurdle to fly. If it sells, I hope that the seller negotiates or provides at least 10% to Rebuild Rescue. Absolute minimum 5%, like it was a real estate commission for finding a buyer.
William Woodfork and.. if the cessna, after thinking it thru, doesn't make sense. We're not all gonna abandon the channel if for example.. the engines turn out to be worth $40k and you decide an excavator would open up some good channel content and maybe the rest of the cessna could trade out for a lowboy trailer ... or some vintage trucks to restore .. or 40 acres in nebraska or whatever the frick.. just keep it real. keep working hard .. and smart... and whatever you do don't get in so deep that you might be tempted by some youtuber tactics of days gone by.. clickbait.. drama... coz that stuff will sink this channel like a chain wrapped around an engine block dumped in the bay.. if u need to just say ur selling mugs or whatever and be honest about it .. ill buy REBUILD RESCUE wife beater or whatever to support the cause.. just sayin,,, erm.. i dig the smell of Diesel or Jet Fuel or whatever .. just no bull puckey lol 🤟
I wouldn't know the first thing about workin on that plane, but I've certainly learned a lot. Thanks.
Im glad you decided to get it started, don’t give up.
I know the series is doing really well compared to other videos and maybe that's giving you some strange ideas to "exploit" it. But please remember your channel's origin, we are here because of the style and straightforward nature of your videos, we are not looking for drama and acting.
Keep true to yourself, views and subs will keep coming if you do, as they already have.
So glad to see another person with the exact same mentality as me. The acting needs to go
Yeah but yall where not getting him 500k views in 8 hours so shut up
@@kellyvoelkel8442 omg I’m so glad that people feel the same way too. I feel like the call was totally orchestrated to create drama for views.
@@someshshine Oh it definitely was, and the cringe was real
@@SolarHeavy So real, I couldn't roll my eyes hard enough.
I have a bunch of time flying a 401 and owned a 310, if the plane sits for a while with no fuel in the mains the sealant in the main tanks can basically bake and clog the fuel lines with sealant...learned the hard way
that might be the cause of the smaller lines not letting fuel flow, yeah.
Honestly don't know anything about these planes, so I'm just guessing here. He took the line off what looked like a fuel line regulator/manifold and it had fuel flowing out of it, but yet no fuel going directly into the injector lines. It appears to me, the fuel going into that regulator doesn't have enough pressure to override spring pressure in the regulator, therefore not getting to the injectors. I could of sworn I seen a spring in there when he took that regulator cover off? If it is a regulator it appears mechanical, therefore should have a spring in it that actually regulates the fuel pressure.
I THOUGHTG THE 401 HAD BLADDER TANKS ? ALSO THE ENGINES HAVENTG RUN IN 10 YEARS .... THE FAA AND MANUFACTURE CONSIDERS THEM IN NEED OF OVERHALL THEY CORRIODE UNLESS RUN UPTO OPERATING TEMPS ON SOME REGULARITYSTIIL I WISH MAN SUCCESS
BTW A 310 IS THE BEST LOOKING LIGHT TWIN EVER!
@@randallbehrens1557 tip tanks are sealed metal. They used a sealant that looked like bondo it will dry out and break apart if it sits for a while with no fuel, the wing tanks are bladder tanks
The fake phone call had me on the edge of my seat. Lol!
What an amazing project I can't wait to see it fly, I also enjoy bringing autos back to life
A&P mechanic here. Mineral spirits is a good cleaner for the engines. Just be sure to use an air chuck to evaporate it all, but it'll eat the dirt and grime. That's how we clean engines where I work.
i used klean strip for boat engine sitting for 16 years ,, cheap at home depot slept one week in boat lol
100LL does pretty good as well 😉
A&P here, I've not worked on a 401, but I've worked on a Cessna 340 and 414, which are very similar. For your fuel issue, my money is on the distributor itself being bad. I've seen the seals degrade and clog them up. Usually for me that means removing it and sending it to overhaul. You might try swapping the one from the other engine. If it is the seals in the spider degrading, make sure to clean out the injector lines and injectors. Hoppes No. 9 and/or MEK works for the injectors. GAMI injectors are tunes specifically to the cylinders, so keep track of which one went where. Some of them will have a number on one of the flats where the first number is the cylinder its meant for (6431 for cylinder #6). For the lines, isopropyl alcohol and shop air. Hope you get it running man!
Thank you for reaching out and sharing so much advice…. We’ll get this bird fired up yet !
Thank you for being part of the channel !!
This story is not suspicious at all.
That's what I'm talking about don't give up you got this the fight continues brother
What a perfect way to make this series even more interesting. And the best part is, most people fell for this plot. Nice. I guess it worked.
Friggin exactly. All made up for drama, tension and additional support.
@@LocalMachine made up drama indeed and tons of stalling for the next episode
I was wondering, what intrigued me was that the phone was off when he answered. What is possible though is that it is true, but just replayed... Anyway I hope he will manage to get the engine started! It is a fantastic project don't get me wrong.
yeah he probably got way in over his head with this piece of shit and doesn't want to deal with it..
i hope you know that before you will pump the system you have to check several things:
1. Fuel tank - open
2. Throttle - full (black handle)
3. Mixture - rich (red handle)
That's only 3 things ;-)
Lots of folks here wanting the mixture to be set to rich. Those are fuel-injected engines, guys. No carburetor, hence no mixture control.
@@MargaretLeber This one is mechanical fuel injection, which has a mixture control. Only EFI has automatic mixture.
@@Stoney3K I stand corrected...there actually are mixture controls. They're not on the engine-start checklist.
@@gregsaunders4 Several means “multiple”
You're almost there man! She's gonna bark soon! Around 9:30 you said, "I don't even know if we have air" and spoke about the turbo... Air will flow through a stuck turbo no problem. I mean, it's a problem, but the engine will start and run with a stuck turbo. Just won't GO like you need. What "air" refers to is your valvetrain and rings. If you have zero compression, you have no "air". If you haven't done a compression test, you really should. Good luck!
Great videos buddy! Great job, well explained and entertaining. Thanks!
Sending the best of luck from across the Atlantic!! Maybe start a gofundme and we will buy the plane for you? Or keep the contract and start a gofundme and all the donations go to the owner? You deserve the plane and I also do feel we can pull together and potentially raise more than 20k for the original owner!! Best of luck to you all and I can’t wait to see more!!
Maybe a Gofunndme can get him a real mechanic out there to look over the plane? Someone who knows what to look for? This matter is too serious for a amature screwing around and guessing. .
This right here is what needs to happen. Sounds like the original owner could use the money, and this series needs to go on!
@@ccnixon He will when he needs to... for now he's just fiddling with it to get these engines started....all the while it's gaining him a really large engaged audience. There's something about this guy most working men can feel good watching, it's interesting how he delves into it, and how he's just like an ordinary joe, very motivated, driven, gutsy, and very easy to relate too... it's like they're vicariously doing it through him... it's all very engaging.
@@ccnixon I had to read your name a few times and make sure you didn’t work with me at one time or another 😂🤣
Thank you for watching Chase !!
@@steverosenberg745 I have to admit Steve…. You get the #1 most motivating award hands down. Everything I’ve learned came from hard work and making tons of mistakes. I was born and raised poor where we had to be able to fix things. Fast forward to today and I love to dig in and get things working ! Thank you so much for spending your time here with us on the channel Brother !
Was the call a dramatization of the original convo? The dubbed ring and awkward convo is pretty suspect.
*drama* for more views
The thing i love about the way this guy works, is his freedom frrom time. Like he never seens to let time and cost affect his positive and relaxed attitude to the job. And because of that he just seems to get so much done
That means a lot Paul! Doing things safely and right has always been #1 for us!
I wanted to be a mechanic coz I loved playing with wrenches , WE called them spanners back then when I used to repair my dad,s bicyle , Now hearing the sound of the modern wrenches has brought memories .. Very Nostalgic . and refreshing . Will buy a set of wrenches for my workshop .may be it will bring back the passion
If you lose the plane you’ve still gained me as a viewer in your content quality stuff keep up the good work pal👍
Yeah but I'm emotionally invested 20k worth now...man this is terrible as know he wants the owner to make the money if he needs it. Dang shame.
I think he'd rather have the plane.
ME TOO!!
Don't let a low life worm in on your find. Keep the plane.
Same!
Make sure the fuel selector is on MAIN, which is the tip tank. The boost/prime pump is located at the tip and feeds from there. Push the RH throttle to full, RH mixture to full rich and hit prime. Fuel should flow out of the injector lines.
As people have said, ensure throttle and mixture is full rich and full throttle for priming, also ensure that the distributor up the top there, make sure its vent is completely free and make sure the diaphragm is in good condition, if vent of the diaphragm is no good no fuel will get to the injectors.
Can't wait to see it on the air.....keep it going man..
This reminds me of the story about a pile of loose change. The owner almost gave it away until someone rolled it up, then he saw the value of what he had. I say restore everything back to the way you found it; exactly the way you found it, and let him have it back. I suspect if you get it running, regardless of your contract, there will be some loophole or legal wrangling to tie up in litigation.
Yeah I have to agree with you on that.
maybe get the airport to help you. itsbeen there for what 18 years ask them if they will charge him for storage A lot for storage so if he does take it back maybe they will give you a little bit for your time and help getting "the bird house" a hazard to aircraft off their tarmac. and make it cost him.
@@bobthompson4319 never mind owners behaviour, whoever this guy is thats making the offer, your a @ hole bud...
@@georgelza ya. I think his best bet is to use the airport for help. there's got to e some abandonment law after its storage goes unpaid (if that's the case) that the airport gets it an I not then idk. dox who ever the F it is hes obviously a viewer of the channel
Personally I think that was a fake phone call to add some spice for the content.
Keep your head up, keep on going…anxious for you to get your part of the deal done.
I can't believe this deal wasn't done before you posted the videos. That blows me away.
Make sure the red mixtures in the cockpit are full forward. Also check the fuel selectors in the cockpit
Love what your doing! I’m a A&P/IA and have rescued a few aircraft. Keep up the good work!
Great, nice to see someone with a license saying something good.
I've been working on cars my whole life, I bought a Cessna 150 that needed lots of work. Did the same thing this guy is doing.
After taking some flying lessons I flew it all over Washington State.
Of course, I would not do that with this plane.
Your flow divider valve is stuck! On top of the engine cut the safety wire take the 4 screws out of the spider. Be carful not to rip the gasket or lose the spring, but it’s probably shot any way. Soak and work the valve out: it’s just a plunger. It’s job is to help get the engine a clean shut down and eliminate fuel nozzle dripping.
Gordon I know zip about Aviation ..I realize he's just trying to fire it up to take possession. He mentioned pulling the engines and updating..obviously thats big bucks I'm guessing that goes to Continental (?) and not Napa .. and the interior clearly needs gutted and with crows and mice chillin an chewin for a decade I'm guessing the electrical is a total loss.. rubber lines, o-rings seals gaskets belts etc all been degrading for 15+ years of hot/cold/wet/dry/salt air/guano etc.. he mentioned the hundreds of rivits to access the problem that grounded her originally.. also just pulling engine access panels and the belly pans he was drilling out rusty bolts .. um ok question: assuming the engines can be brought back to excellent.. does every nut, bolt, rivet, staple, window seal, gauge, o-ring, hydraulic/cooling/oil/fuel line etc need to be replaced or at least pulled polished and tested and the electronics.. update the old tech.. sat gps navigation etc.. i mean if i bought a 20 year old boat i'd probs spring for a new fish finder lol.. and even after that will it be back to full integrity.. although it's not modern tech those engines have some torque .. take money out of the equation.. is it worth it?? ok put money back in the equation .. fully redone.. any chance it's a good investment ? Anyone can answer.. I don't have a clue.. I was just here for a old dumptruck lol .. thx
@@JL-zq9ly this is why you know the $20k offer is fake. For the obvious reasons you stated. I can't see it bringing much over $5,000 on a great day during happy hour.
@@jeremysales1232 maybe the story of a villainous thief in the title is a graceful way to bail out of a winged money pit .. i'd play along lol .. on to better projects
@@jeremysales1232 generous... I doubt there is that much in cores for new parts in this thing and it wouldn't bring that to a scrapper...
Many of us said in the first video this aircraft isn't worth the money to get in annual anymore so there is no reason, financially, to take on the project unless ad revenue from the videos pay for it.
@@jeremysales1232 dang I got played like a sucka...I'm not aviation savvy....he got me.
Love what your doing there. Grew up around a aviation family and just wanted to make a offer to help you with the clean up side of this project.
Man I really hope to see the next iteration of this!!
Jimmy’s world would be the man to talk to. He would help you get it running!!
Plot Twist: Jimmy is the guy that offered the owner $20k
@@christophertroy3340 right I was waiting on jimmy to walk in
Continental engines are not quick to start. Especially cold. I've started them thousands of times in my career as an aircraft mechanic.
You need to prime them heavy, then crank the engine, while slowly moving the throttle lever from idle to full to closed and back
Combustion only happens when the air, fuel ratio is right, and moving the throttle lever slowly, changes the ratio until you hit the correct ratio.
Thank you for the tips on starting these engines. Hoping we get in started soon !
Thank you for watching 👍🏼
I always went full throttle/full rich, ran the pumps until flooded, mixture to idle cutoff/full throttle, crank until it fires, and reduce throttle as it starts to run. Continentals love fuel!
the turbo isnt needed to start it. at least on other turbo engines. at idle the turbo Is bypassed at idle so it should start without the turbo. but.. does rowerwet agree?
do you agree?
20k....get his friends at the airport to charge 30k for storage and back fees.
Very much enjoy your efforts to make the Bird Nest 401work again after 16 years of no fly. My past is working on giant ship diesels so I understand the dreaming at night to make it work.Can't get it out of ones mind gives tunnel vision.NOW MAKE IT FLY.
I have been waiting for the next episode eagerly , I sure hope that phone call didn't botch his opportunity to get her started and inevitably get a FREE plane.
Don't give up on this project. You took us on this journey with you and we're rooting for you to get it finished. hope the owner sees what this project means to us all and backs down.
We won’t quit ! 💪🏼
With the previous videos getting over 1 million views I am sure the community would be happy to help out and stop that guy stealing the plane by raising enough for a counter offer.
I for one want to see you get the old girl running again after all the hard work you have put in so far and I am sure that I am not the only one.
I think this is a ruse to get you to do exactly what you just said. Follow?
Look at when he gets the "call" his phone screen is off no one called lol
It's fake for more suspense and views. Classic UA-cam content
Unfortunately someone did actually make an offer to the owner behind his back… not a ruse 😔
I really don't think this is worth $20K. To get flying maybe $70K per engine/prop, $50K in used avionics, $50K misc, plus that $100K Ad on the spar to get a $200K airplane. That is if you get the log books. There are much better projects out there to start with. Maybe find a Cherokee 6
“I want the Austin ❤” Your a true petrol head ! At least neither of the engines were seized.
You should talk to the guys at AMMO NYC for the interior vid, they know a lot about dirty cabins
The engine and plane looks so much better since you cleaned out all the birds nests & poop. This is a great series btw. Love it... can't wait to see those things fire up!
Some aspects of his videos are like the grown up version of Dora the Explorer. "I'll go turn over the engine while you watch for spark." I'm over here talking to my phone, like, "I see spark! I see it!" haha I love what you do man. Keep up the good work.
The whole crew here is seriously cracking up!!
There are stroboscope lights that you can use to adjust spark firing timing, that are hooked around the spark vires. That should be able to use to see if there are any sparks in each spark plug.
The first case that SCOTUS heard over 200 years ago was on contract law. Their finding which still stands is: a contract is a contract. Good thing you got it in writing!
In the future, your contract needs to include a clause for commissions if someone buys out the vehicle from under you. You have advertised very, very well!
Next time keep it to yourself.
what did we all learn, content creator´s and viewers? dont upload any video until project is done or in this case the start of engine is yes or no.
You might consider getting a continental engine tech to bring in spare parts of what might be needed and fix the engine immediately and starting the motor. This way you will know what to do to the other engine.
Call Continental and Cessna's PR departments and explain what's going on. Chances are that they may not have even heard what you're trying to do. They should have every reason to get their techs down there to help you start it up and avoid hurting yourself. Instant good will with future customers and the general public.
@@jvburnes You might want to watch some of his other videos before you assume the he's ignorant. Your comment highlights the fact that you are yourself.
While this is true and that that would help the same problem may not occur on both engines but this would help out extremely with the project
I`m waiting for next video .... pushing refresh button every hour :).
Nice... if I ever rebuild anything.... even if it's a cycle, I wouldn't drive it...
That's how confident I am about my rebuilding skills.. so definitely impressed....
I love this series. Don't get discouraged. Once you figure out the hang up, the other engine will be a breeze. Set the levers like you would a cold start. ie: throttle cracked, mixture full rich, prop to flat pitch. Cycle the levers a few times, make sure they;'re moving at the throttle body
We won’t quit…. It’ll start one way or another !
I’ve been hooked since the first video of this particular plane project . Subscribed after first video, I even said to myself wow hope this works out and there isn’t any shady business. All to often this happens. Happens to a good friend of mine with a 50’s thunderbird.
Keep on keepin on dude and don’t let the scheisters get you down.
I'm licensed private single engine, not an A&P ...Also I'm a 30 year video producer, broadcast and corporate, that being said; Nice direction and good camera work, I'm wondering how many takes it took when you walked back through the door after the phone call....Anyway, what am I missing here? What's the point of starting one engine or starting both, all you can do is taxi it around the airport ..Il add this bit, a piece of advice from my first Instructor, "Son you dont need a license to fly an airplane, but you sure as hell need one to crash it"..so .. You dont need an Airworthiness Certificate to fly it, but you will sure as hell need one to crash it.
Love that saying !! 👍🏼👍🏼🤣😂