Ported Intake Manifold: Worth The Price? SBS vs Stock RBC Dyno Shootout
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- We throw an SBSPerformance Ported RBC Intake Manifold on the dyno against a Stock RBC manifold to see the difference in power. A ported intake manifold is a cheap modification that many people do to their cars to pick up power. It's one part of the whole recipe needed for finding power N/A.
We put 2 intake setups to the test to show the difference in intakes and how much power can be made using a stock K20.
Car Setup:
Stock K20A2
RBC Intake Manifold / SBS Ported Manifold
Stock PRB Throttle Body
K-Tuned Big Tube Header
3" Exhaust w/ K-Tuned Turndown Muffler
Stock Injectors
DW400 Fuel Pump
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Great comparison and great info Alex, you guys been keeping me inspired and motivated and pushing myself. I finally just finished putting together my k24a2 swap my fisrt time EVER doing a swap (to anything literally) but I kept at it and STOPPED doubting myself and finally... got to hear the motor run in the car. Soon hopefully one day I can bring the car down for a dyno session . You guys are amazing keep doing what you do. WORK HARD STAY HUMBLE 👍👍
I love your content, and I don't do any Honda stuff at all.
Haha same. Ive never owned a Honda but appreciate the platform and what can be done with it. I actually watch the vids for motivational content :)
Ay guys I'm a VW boy from South Africa..... But I love the content
@James Smith do it...
It will be awesome.
Me at this time with my crazy misfits are gathering turbo bits to build an 8vTurbo golf Mk1.
All on shop recycled parts😁
I promise you, you wouldn't regret owning one with a nice swap.
So what honda did you get?
While i dont have a 4-banger. Doing an NA build on a 3000gt..Seeing the gains you guys are getting from even simple mods is promising. Currently my 3000gt has longtube headers, had a full exhaust made for it to be as straight as possible and only has 1 25 degree bend to get as much flow as possible, IMR intake manifold (shortened runners and bigger surge tank) with a 90mm hypertune TB, 550cc injectors, 255lph fuel pump, Stand alone ecu, 14lbs flywheel. and a very simply CAI only has 1 bend and is 3.5in diameter to match the TB. Working on getting Cams,gears,port and polished, +1 oversized valves, Im 7.5k in on a 2k $ car and i couldnt care less about the cost lol. Its not built yet to be fair. Waiting on the intake manifold to get here. Then everything is getting installed. And then tuned. Hoping for between 215-225 whp before the heads get built. Love these NA dyno pulls on this stock k-series
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I did the same test with a SBS ported RBC and then stock RRC ,and the RRC made more power down low and made 1hp more then SBS peak so in the end result was RRC for the win for less then buying a new rbc and sending it out to get ported.
The test was done on a jdm k20a from a ep3.
I believe that a k24a2 would have benefited from the SBS ported RBC
I’ll be purchasing one
Porting the intake manifold is such a simple mod, it is a shame we do not see it more often. Thanks for the video!
You guys have the best video intro on youtube. Like the NA testing bring on the bigger throttle body and cams.
I have to agree about the Fuel PSI. A company here (Sydney) said it wouldn't do anything in my all motor. I went from 37 to 60 and picked up 1.2 seconds per lap. Nobody can dyno Hondata here in Tasmania Australia.
On my Subarus I've done this to every single one, over the last decade about 5 cars total. My results were amazing.
I didn't really port though, I just polished. The only time I didn't get at least 15-25 torque, something else was wrong, the one case was an exhaust leak I didn't notice before the front air/fuel sensor. Once I fixed that the boring car was really fun.
I'm working on a video with measured results now. Subaru has really long runners for low end torque from the factory, therefore I believe that's why it makes such a drastic difference. There's a lot of air drag and skin friction in the factory aluminum manifolds, there's a lot of power to be found there. 💯
So + Fuel Pressure - Injector Duty Cycle = Same A/F Ratio and More Power. I like it, better fuel atomization! I was leaning this way but glad to hear it from a pro! Thanks guys, I tune my street car all the time trying to dial it in. Sweet vid!
I love Dyno comparisons ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
i want to see RBC vs Skunk 2 intake
Coming Next !
Skunk2 ultra street is what I’d like to see vs the RBC
and RRC
I think the East Coast kat did a comparison with YoSolo tuned.. Aki, Feral, and that fat dude with the red coupe..
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Man I wish I lived near you guys, my car is a spitting image of yours besides the wheels
Are the headphones used for knock detection? What about a video on the cruising area or even screen mirroring the laptop for some insight. Not saying show everything but just some more in depth
I've often wondered about Alex's headphones...
I’d love too see a cam comparison no matter the company !! I’ve been debating on getting them for a turbo build for a higher rpm capability for a month bow
this is absolutely amazing!! sad i saw this so late. this is beautiful! keep these up. i love your passion and this is a true testamant on the love for the honda community. you should absolutely test that sbs manifold on one your favorite HP stock k20/k24 budget turbo kit cars.
You guys should make the intro song a ringtone!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I love you guys content. Here in the U.K. the Honda scene is big but no where near out there. The top tips are fantastic
At 27:47 Alex looks like a teddy bear with the hood and the 🎧
Humble, Do you want to test my 4P ported Skunk2 race manifold?? I'll ship it there no problem.
S K - Is it the Race or Street ?
Humble Performance @ humble ... NO ITS NOT A race of street but dragg mani... HAHAHA.. just messing with ya..
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Thank you for the content!! I don't think you know how much we appreciate and use the hard work you do!! 💪💪💪💪
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When flowing engine parts or anything it's best to have a flow bench. I don't know if the place that is flowing the manifold has a flow bench or not. Once you have the right combination on flowing say heads you would set up a fixture & run them all the same with your cutters that mounted on the valve stem guides.That way you don't have to check flow rate on every one on the flow bench. I used to know a guy that did motorcycle heads. Just my two cents.
Alex am from Jamaica i like how u r sharing your knowledge with ppl keep it up your doing a good job
You guys needs to do, RRC vs RBC stock vs RBC ported vs Skunk intake.. for k20a stock.. that will be a mad test. Those are for the most average Joe that puts their hands on those intakes.. .
Yyyeeessss! I needed a video like this for a while, this confirmed what I wonna do nxt! Port match RBC mani to 70mm throttle body. Should sit nice at 240 with mods I have.
What do you have
@@Coldology03 rsx type s with just bolt-ons, K-pro, 08 si trans for LSD, and clutch. Thats it for performance mods.
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I would love to man but time n money is my issue, I'm a father of 3 n married.
@@seroqu1537 I feel that well if you have a type you can modify you’re stock 310cc-520cc! And aem fuel pump is 100$
ALEX IS ALWAYS GIVING OUT BLESSINGS AND #QUICKTIPS LOL LOVE ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AND CONTENT CRAZY BECAUSE PFI HAS BIG MIKES CRX WITH THE HUMBLE PERFORMANCE WORK AND BANNER AND IT WILL BE A SMALL COLLABORATION BUT HIS CAR WILL BE AMAZING BUT KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK GUYS MUCH LOVE STAY HUMBLE
Imo, I don't think the SBS Port is worth it, its $385 + 200 (for a rbc manifold). You are in for it more then a s2 ultra street at around 450-500 brand new! I guess next video is comparison between this vs a s2 ultra street or race? Thanks for the awesome content!
Hell ya another dope video keep up the good work
Awesome content as usual. Glad 4piston hooked you guys up! That was quick lmao
Great video guys and great work as usual, love the content 💪💪💪
I dont think the port makes a difference until it gets some bigger cams
Boy when alex gets going he keeps on going and going lol no disrespect i love your videos
With a bigger throttle body and better intake it would’ve been in the 240’s easily with that manifold I think. Still made good power though despite the lack of supporting mods. Absolutely loved the video you guys kill it every time! 🙏💪🐐
Another great video , glad you did this part comparison
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Hope y’all get those cams
Those guys are So legit ! They are keeping the honda game adult
Zammm my nigga Sbs is coming up in the game.. i remember the dude was doing back yard work in his shed on social media...his shit is good work..
Such a clean eg hatch. Wish i could find 1 in that shape around my town lol
Great info on fuel atomizing 😎
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Gave them a shoot out and told them to give you a head to give away with the cam ;)
He’ll yea man, elvis at sbs is the man hard working guy. His work is proven power I run k24 bottom and his street ported k20a2 Head matched with the sbs intake open to a 80mm Tb, with drag cartel elite series cams and make 280 on x85 with a safe tune!!
All inhectors are different and yeah what happens with the too much fuel pressure is that the injector cant open or struggles to open. Keep up the work boys.. love the work you all do! ✌🏼
Maybe start looking at diesel injectors to mod and fit? They run very high pressures to atomise the diesel for a good burn
Another question if you dont mind.. You say you dont need the vacuum for the regulator.. does it matter if its returnless or not?
Appreciate the knowledge HP and I keep saving to one day get my goal 💪
Dope video Humble performance!!
Guys love your videos !! Especially the one’s with advice on tuning. I’m having problems with my car running very lean at cold start. Then after it’s warmed AFR is at 14.7ish. This happened after I installed the hybrid CAI on my fa5 si and loaded a base map of the injen CAI. If you guys can give me a few pointers it’ll be very much appreciated. Try adding 10% fuel on low fuel on first column still same . Noob at this , but willing to learn. Have to start from the bottom to go to the top ! Thanks guys keep up the good work and stay HUMBLE.
It would have been a way better comparison if Alex was able to use the missing velocity stack I would have been talking about it all day to it's a very valid point
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Excellent video! Clean EG
Thank you for this. Needed the info to see if I'd upgrade my IM.
Man that one was a pretty dammmm good tip I love u guys an yall nowlege for car keep up the good work guys
That sweet V-Tec kick at 23:10
The best out there keep humbled... impressive ufff coming for the bugget kit dc5
Great idea, always wanted to know what the best drop in cam would be on a kseries motor please test the skunk2, drag cartel, brain crower, 4p and kelford drop in cam.
@SA - don't believe everything you see, eventhought its said to be a drop in cam, the full potential of any cam would come out with a proper a/f tune
With drop in they min stock valvetrian. A tune is always needed
That first quick tip, does he meant all motor does not need fuel pressure regulator?
Very good quick tips , wish u all d best for more hard work .
You always did a great job , i have 1 question.
Which fuel you are using in this EG stock K20 r pump gass or ???
Your make 234 on pump ?
Appreciate the knowledge bro.... we all gotta get dirty
Thanks for the quick tip. Appreciate it a lot Alex.
Got mine ported by Elvis himself. About to get a dyno in a couple weeks.
You guys should do header comparisons next. Big tube vs small tube and off the shelf vs custom.
Really wanna see some h2b all motor pulls. But you guys rock
Love the videos keep up this good work.. quick question would u reccomend a short gear ratio for turbo b or a short gear ratio will it really affect hp?
Team Humble all day everyday!!
Y'all should try the LHT throttle body spacer next!!
I wanna thank you all too for this great upload. I sub'd.
Love the content! But I wanna see some 4piston b series cams vs stock b vtec cams lol
Thanks for the videos any future j series stuff?
I don't kno if you mentioned this but...
When you have your full engine built you will/should gain even more..
So it was 4 hp on a stock motor but could be 15 hp on a built motor..
A lot of bolt ons just free up power the motor engine itself can make..
Love this content guys top work
Thanks for this. I’ve been waiting for somebody to do this!!!! I have a request or question if you or Alex can go into depth about a Skunk2 center feed vs skunk 2 side feed, which one makes more power
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3-5 horse is a good gain for a ported RBC on a stock motor .
viejo yo siempre veo sus videos me encantan pero no entiendo ni una mierda , saludos desde Dominican republic
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Damn almost 240 on a stock throttle body nice job on the tune
Great, keep up the good work
You should dyno skunk2 manifold vs stock ported h22 manifold vs ported skunk2 vs ported k if you ever get the chance on a h22 23 or f20b
12 years ago I have a b20 type r .
Great, great video!!!
With the intake test, I've always was told the Password JDM whale penis lose HP! I want to send you guys one for a B-Series.
So is this true ? I have 1 I'll be using on a build (first build) and I'm sure others have tested this air intake. T.I.A. for any help
Good info we appreciate it
Great bro ! I love Honda !
So what fuel pump and injectors do you like for FBO setup (74mm TB).
Missing intake? The red thing in front of front bumper?
IDK why but at 14 min I got a weird memory of being in a shop as a kid and I want that. I have my drive way but no friends. Lol. Im always changing my set up on my Civic cause I got too many turbos a cheap welder and pipe. I've done my kit like 4 times. Not I'm done and funny enough it's on a log style Mani gt35 r. 3in to the back lol.
If you do a mild build can you test the sk2 ultra race Mani? How much it makes vs how much plenum volume since they come with spacers
can we also see full exhaust vs hood exit at a later date..??? on a stock motor..
So not worth it on stock engine . It will really shine with bigger cams, compression and tb.
This is awesome info and video also cant wait to move up but still running my 92 honda accord ex stock f series and learning jw if u could maybe help me out with some info or a website so I can learn more about my stock f series thank I appreciate it 🤙💯
Great job y'all
Just buy the parts, it’s more of a reward than just having things given to you.
More info on custom injectors, what do you guys custom? More cc?
Why are you thoughts on a carbon fiber whale penis intake? Is it worth it? Or just a 3in with a velocity stack?
Clemente Hernandez straight 3 in for sure
Is it possible to add a regulator to a Rsx with a factory returnless setup and do that trick with the regulator ?
Uff I was thinking of getting my manifold ported on my cammed sr20ve but now I'm thinking it may be a lot of money for little gains,almost no gains if direct bolt on and no tune.
Does the FPR line removal go for B series too? I have a stock GSR with AEM rail and FPR. Should I run it without the vacuum line?
Fuel was e85?
Which spark plug would u recommend foran all motor Honda? I like the ngk laser double platinum...is there a cheaper plug that's just as good that you use or do u use lasers too? lol
Next should be a better header... i made 237/171 stock k20a2 pump gas , ported rbc by Odyssey Fab , ASP header......Javituned
Your k20 is it big tube asp or small tube ? I’m wanting to go same route
Kid Beanss big attached to a 3” full race...
Ace Ayala I’m on a DTR budget right now, might make the change back to big tube
Kid Beanss how are those dtr slip joint style header? Are they the same with those 1320 eBay ones?
bhadz100 tbh I bought them for clearance because it tucked my midpipe up. Compared to my old big tube with had the ugliest angled flange
Bro what I want to know is how you got 223 out of a stock k20 I put Hondata race tune calibrations in with my bolt ons and I don’t even think I’m making that.
what about R40 heads, i have never hear you guys talk about those head . Rbc manifold with a 50 degree vtc with a tuned can that work on a k24z2,3, engines