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IIRC at one time the U.S. Military established that penetration of a 1/2" pine board was a fatal shot, 7/8 of the way through a 3/4" seems to meet that standard. Amazing...
I used to find longrange shooting boring to watch but I like the way you two just go out there , do your own thing with no huff and make it so interesting , I also love the science behind it all too.Learning so much. The down side of your videos is that you have cost me close to 5K in a sako 243 etc , but in a good way. Cheers luv your work.
Clinton Walsh ya at 27 foot pounds of energy you would be able to kill rabbit, pigeons. Vital or head shot. 22 air rifles are about that maybe a bit more.
Your skill and abilities to hit long range are still amazing! I appreciate your sharing this test of the 22lr Velocitor rounds. That is the round I’m starting to build my budget ELR on to train myself to get out to 500 yards. Will be a bit before I decide on all the details, but have a great starting point with the round. Now on to the platform!
I believe the US military reckon that any projectile capable of penetrating a 1/2" Pine board is capable of producing a lethal injury, obviously with appropriate shot placement. This demo would indicate that the 22LR is capable of lethality at about 700-750 yards. Worth bearing in mind when selecting shooting backdrops.
I shoot .22LR out to 400 yards regularly with a Savage mkII with a 20 MOA rail and at that distance it's a rainbow trajectory. This is shooting .22LR on a next level that most likely won't even understand. I mean just look at the ridiculous angle that scope is mounted on! It's facing straight at the tip of the barrel. This is very impressive shooting for 22LR!
Shot .22 competitively in high school nearly 50 years ago. This is remarkable shooting and you're to be commended. I always loved this little round and thought its potential lethality overlooked by 'serious' shooters...
Having shot the Enfield no. 4 Mk 1 and Mk1* regularly (iron sights) in both .303 and 7.62 Nato (converted) out to 1000 yards (24in. bullseye) I fully appreciate this video with the ubiquitous, but little .22. Who knew? Bravo (and the 601'st like :-)
Cheers for that, and in reference to that shooting you spoke of you may like this video, ua-cam.com/video/zruU2xLcm1o/v-deo.html 45-70 Guide gun at 1080yards
Wonder how much better a .22 WMR round would do? No difference in the bullet mass and associated percent errors I wouldn't think. But, perhaps the powder loads might have a little less percent deviance.
Compared to centerfire performance at equivalent range, you did remarkably well...never thought a .22rf would have that consistant and accurate range...You did a very good job!
Very interesting. I like the way you used the water to get you on target. Great idea. You might weigh each loaded round and cull the ones that are too light or too heavy. Some brands that I have put thru this process will cull as high as 40%. The results are match grade rounds that are very consistent in preference. Yes it takes a little work but for some tests the results are worth it.
I have watched both of your videos on 22 lr and 17 cal and find them to be very remarkable. I believe the 17 to be a better long range round over all. I love my 10/22 and wouldn't trade it for anything. But I just got a 17 and need to try it out for myself. great videos by the way and keep them coming.
Me and my brother Larry shoot single shot open sight rifles his is a Model 67 Winchester mine is a 510 Remington. We shoot at 450 yards, with bulk ammo, we have a blast!! Thanks for the video!
I spent an afternoon shooting a Ruger Mk. IV pistol at a 24"x24" plate at 500yds once. Once I had the right bush picked out maybe 50' above the plate I was good for 4 out of 5 shots on target as long as the wind stayed calm. It looked impressive. Chicks dug it.
Love the velocitors! I experienced a similar result with the sporadic elevation inconsistencies from velocity deviation. Still a great round to have fun with for longer range .22 fun!
CZ 452... excellent choice my good man! just today, I finally got my 452 in .22lr. I used to own a varmint model in 17hmr... but the damn thing was too expensive to shoot, so I sold it. also bought a Leupold vx1 2-7×28 rimfire specific scope to go with it! now I wait for the mailman!!!!
MarkandSam AfterWork you too man! I subbed to your channel... looking forward to perusing the vids soon :) Ps. the twelve people who disliked this video have shaky hands, either they can't shoot for shite and thumbed it down... or they really meant to hit the like button and missed ;)
If its available try using the Browning 22 cal LR Ammunition...it states 1435 fps on box and I've chrony'd it at 1430 avg...Velocitor chrony's at 1230 fps ....way to unsteady...we've achieved 700 yds in Central TEXAS and we're chasing you down the road...we've got CZ published out to 500 yds...keep watching over your shoulder...we're a coming your way !
Thanks for that, really do very little with the 22LR, just a bit of fun in the winter time, last year in a different spot we popped a balloon out at 875 yards but video was not good, but as I said just a bit of fun. Camera is a Canon Power shot SX60, they have great zoom for this stuff, Cheers
I have shoot 200 yards and waiting for the clang on steel. The report of a hit at that range must be crazy long. Love seeing you guys push calibers to new limits.
The furthest I've ever shot a 22 was about 150 yards and it was subsonic load, took ages to reach the target. This is just outstanding shooting, what was the bullet flight time?
I didn't even think that sort of shot was possible with a .22LR. That proves the "only accurate to 50 yards" brigade wrong. I always thought they had to be ok out to 100 at least. But 720? That's absolutely superb shooting.
Shooting downhill like that I'm sure helped keep the momentum of the bullet. Thank you for doing this experiment, I was curious about the limitations of a .22
CCI now makes a round called CCI copper. They're supposed to be the fastest. 22lr round made at 1800 fps. Although this test and your marksmanship are outstanding, I would love to see you try it again with the new round.
I would not think those would be able to shoot past 300 yards, even the CCI stringers can not get out there, the lighter bullets do not stay stable. What we found was you need a 40 grain projectile in a 22lr, those are the only ones we have found that can be stretched out to longer ranges. Those CCI copper would be good for flatter shooting in normal 22lr distances. Cheers
That's some really good shooting from a sitting position. I would actually try 40gr target ammo at 1040 to 1080ft/s; you'll need more elevation obviously, but it doesn't go through transonic and it'll be more consistent. Loved the video, thanks for making it, I'd like to see this sort of thing again done with high end target ammo.
Thanks John, glad you liked, that would be a lot of elevation, almost double and these rounds are not really having problems with the transonic zone. Cheers and all the best.
I just clicked on the video, haven't watched it yet, and I'm already impressed. Wow, I would have never thought they would be flying stable at that distance.
yes yet again another great video.. wow I'm learning so much from you and thankyou so much for sharing.. hope you don't mind I sharw your vids on facebook.. I have alot of friends on there from the U.S who are gun writers and testers for popular hunting and outdoor magazines.. well done..
I used to knock over running jackrabbits at around 400 yards with a Browning .22 SAR with iron sights. I would use the dust kicked up to correct my "aim" and would usually connect on the third shot. I say "aim" because I doubt I was actually aiming. That rifle had become an extension of my body by that time.
MarkandSam AfterWork G'd Day to you, mate. I thought I was pretty hot stuff with a .22 until one day a friend and I walked up to a beaver pond just to take a gander at it. I had my Browning and he had a Winchester lever gun in .22 mag. Two drake mallards got up. I never even thought about taking a shot for multiple reason, such as it was illegal. Meanwhile I heard a "crack" and one drake went down shot through the head. Click-clack and crack and the second one came down, shot through the head. This was decades ago and I'm still flabbergasted.
I got to 500m at 5000ft altitude on a hot day with the round nose cci mini mags, not too consistent but on a still morning I could probably do a bit better. Lots of fun. Great id as usual.
Well the 1/2 pine was with natural growth pine, not plantation fast growth pine, so not quite the same and that is why we use 3/4"pine, Cheers and all the best.
Actually...when a bullet goes through a 3/4inch piece of plywood, it's considered a "lethal"shot. That's the standard for any caliber & as always...great shooting. Take care & have a good day.
The guys in America released a spitser boat tail 22lr round, check it out, me and my brother also did some nice work with 22 s years ago, kind regards from South Africa.
I forget who determined it, but I saw on Iraqveteran8888's channel years ago, that any round that can make it through 1/2" plywood in considered lethal. If these rounds made it 7/8ths of the way through 3/4" pine plywood... than the 22lr can kill at 720+ yards.
I'm a wee bit surprised you would want to be shooting at water; however, when you can see all that is within 550 yards (~500m) of said water, I guess that takes a bit of the risk out of it.... I think I'm just nervous of shooting at water since a relative of mine died from a 22lr ricochet off the water....but, I must admit the shooter and the victim were both at waters edge (standing quite close to one another, not across the water or anything crazy)...but, I digress Nice shooting, nice rifle, nice camera, nice video, nice setting....oh yeah, & nice pod on that rifle, that looks very flexible (adjustable) & quite sturdy. I would be out every arvo playing with that rig too, if it were mine.
I occasionally shoot .22LR from 100-300yards and never see any key holes or odd target holes. A guy in the comment section of a video told me that my bullets were tumbling when they went sub sonic then re stabilizing to leave a clean bullet hole on the target. Im 99% sure he is wrong. Do you think that the .22lr bullet is tumbling then re stabilizing over longer distances? From my experience the transition from supersonic to sub sonic(with .22lr) seems to have minimal impact on bullet flight. Great vid as always, thanks for uploading.
Hi Robert, thanks for your comment. Your are right, in fact bullets can "wobble" when going transonic and then re stabilize to retain their flight path, but if they start to tumbler they will not recover. Cheers and all the best.
Hi Mark & Sam! I think your channel is just great, especially the "22lr ELR" series that you guys have been posting. Im planning a 22lr "low cost" build with a single shot Walther match rifle as a base, whats your experience with the FX No Limit rings? Are they reliable or do they shift easy if they would get knocked around a bit? A solid mount would be the best I suppose, but I do like the adjustability of these rings. Keep it up! //Ted
I know you are shooting so downhill it's not funny, but if that was someones head, they'd be dead as a doe doe. Ye ol' 22lr - what an amazing round. I'm a big 223 fan, but credit where it's due, 22lr - I loose respect for anyone who scoffs at it. Hmm, I wonder what a 17 mhr would do?
I think that was more like 5 or 6 MOA. The board was 24x24. 3 MOA would hit in a circle 23" in diameter, which would fit on the board. 4 MOA would hit in a circle 31" in diameter, and give you about a 75-80% hit rate on a 2'×2' square target.
Hit rate will give you the easiest approximation of MOA. 5 MOA is a 50% hit rate. 6 MOA is about 36%, which seems more accurate. What I absolutely cannot understand is how you don't seem to have keyholing. That is really surprising to me.
Lol, not really trying to group, just a bit of fun and a bit interesting. also keep in mind, with ELR, conditions have more control than rifle, and as for stability, we see this all the time, things don't go a crazy during the transonic zone as many people think and here is more evidence of that, Cheers
Hi again, no just out of the box, but yes to sort by weight and size would help this sort of ammo, but truth is it shot better than I had hoped, and as said was really just a bit of interesting fun, it is also a stock 452, I think they run 1:16, we just tested several lots of ammo previously and found the CCI Velocitor work at these long ranges, cheers and all the best.
Do you think a 22lr sv 1100fps could travel 800 meters with a 200 meter rise in elevation? Thanks. My 3 favorite people in W. Australia, Mark, Sam and Minjee Lee.
Most 22lr rounds loss it way before this range, the 40grain bullets or at least these seem to keep there stability and I would think keep it until the land.Cheers and all the best.
I would question the flesh wound idea, plywood isn't the same as flesh. Less likely to be fatal? Absolutely but not impossible. That being said, great video. Lots of useful information.
Back in the day the US Army did some testing and concluded that if a round can pass through 3/4" pine, then it potentially has enough energy to create a mortal wound. Not an exact science, but good rule of thumb type thing.
22’s never cease to amaze me 👍
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IIRC at one time the U.S. Military established that penetration of a 1/2" pine board was a fatal shot, 7/8 of the way through a 3/4" seems to meet that standard. Amazing...
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Look at the angle on the scope. You've basically invented a rimfire mortar!
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Just come here after watching the Garand Thumb 710 yards .22 guy! Its definitley possible but not easy at all!
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I used to find longrange shooting boring to watch but I like the way you two just go out there , do your own thing with no huff and make it so interesting , I also love the science behind it all too.Learning so much.
The down side of your videos is that you have cost me close to 5K in a sako 243 etc , but in a good way.
Cheers luv your work.
Yes it does that this pass time and nice stuff costs, but there could be a lot worse ways of spending it, Cheers.
CCI VELOCITOR 1435 fps 40 grain, If zero at 100 yards, 725, yards = 91.27 foot drop, 144.18 moa, 41.94 mil, 2.79 seconds, 27 ft-lbs, 555 fps, good shooting.
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lmao.. damn.. love ya work on your ballistics there.. nice
you reckon at that speed and energy it will have enough power to kill
+Clinton I'm not sure but I think you'd have to penetrate the skull or hit a vital organ. So possibly?
Clinton Walsh ya at 27 foot pounds of energy you would be able to kill rabbit, pigeons. Vital or head shot. 22 air rifles are about that maybe a bit more.
Your skill and abilities to hit long range are still amazing! I appreciate your sharing this test of the 22lr Velocitor rounds. That is the round I’m starting to build my budget ELR on to train myself to get out to 500 yards. Will be a bit before I decide on all the details, but have a great starting point with the round. Now on to the platform!
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Absolutely the best 22lr shooten I've ever seen like, and ye 308 4,000 meter shot was absolutely class, and ye spotter does a grand job as well! !
Thanks Man, we really enjoy our shooting all sorts, and yes I have a great spotter, cheers.
Hitting targets at extremely long ranges is dependent upon a good spotter.
Sure is.
I believe the US military reckon that any projectile capable of penetrating a 1/2" Pine board is capable of producing a lethal injury, obviously with appropriate shot placement. This demo would indicate that the 22LR is capable of lethality at about 700-750 yards. Worth bearing in mind when selecting shooting backdrops.
Sure is Paul, aways know what lays beyond your target, Cheers
My CZ 452 likes the CCI Velocitor round to. Accurate little rifles these are.... Thank you for another great video folks!
Thanks Mike, Cheers
I shoot .22LR out to 400 yards regularly with a Savage mkII with a 20 MOA rail and at that distance it's a rainbow trajectory.
This is shooting .22LR on a next level that most likely won't even understand. I mean just look at the ridiculous angle that scope is mounted on! It's facing straight at the tip of the barrel.
This is very impressive shooting for 22LR!
Thanks Man, great fun making it happen, glad you enjoyed, Cheers and all the best.
The little .22 is highly underestimated. It has killed more people and animals than any other caliber in existence. They are no joke.
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Shot .22 competitively in high school nearly 50 years ago. This is remarkable shooting and you're to be commended. I always loved this little round and thought its potential lethality overlooked by 'serious' shooters...
Thank you, yes great little round and great to shoot, Cheers and all the best.
Greetings guys, and thanks for the video! The .22 is such a fun firearm! Never stretched one out that far though! Gonna try it too! thanks again!!!
Cheers Joel, all the best.
The OG 22 man
Lol, Cheers
That’s what I call having fun!! Keep up the good work Mark and Sam!
Cheers Man, Thanks
Having shot the Enfield no. 4 Mk 1 and Mk1* regularly (iron sights) in both .303 and 7.62 Nato (converted) out to 1000 yards (24in. bullseye) I fully appreciate this video with the ubiquitous, but little .22. Who knew? Bravo (and the 601'st like :-)
Cheers for that, and in reference to that shooting you spoke of you may like this video, ua-cam.com/video/zruU2xLcm1o/v-deo.html 45-70 Guide gun at 1080yards
Lofts Sympatico Kandahar?
Look at the angle of that scope Hahahaha love it
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That’s the only one way to do it with that range and specific firearm.
Wonder how much better a .22 WMR round would do? No difference in the bullet mass and associated percent errors I wouldn't think. But, perhaps the powder loads might have a little less percent deviance.
Will have to test sometime, if we can find a bullet that stays stable enough, Cheers
Compared to centerfire performance at equivalent range, you did remarkably well...never thought a .22rf would have that consistant and accurate range...You did a very good job!
Thanks Tony, was a lot of fun, Cheers
Too cool!
Thanks, Cheers
I recon any long range tests should be shot with from zero elevation as i believe you can drop a 22 from a mile onto your target easily
Very interesting. I like the way you used the water to get you on target. Great idea.
You might weigh each loaded round and cull the ones that are too light or too heavy. Some brands that I have put thru this process will cull as high as 40%. The results are match grade rounds that are very consistent in preference. Yes it takes a little work but for some tests the results are worth it.
Thanks Terry, yes a good way to get a little closer to match ammo, in truth this was just a bit of good fun and an interesting results. Cheers
I have watched both of your videos on 22 lr and 17 cal and find them to be very remarkable. I believe the 17 to be a better long range round over all. I love my 10/22 and wouldn't trade it for anything. But I just got a 17 and need to try it out for myself. great videos by the way and keep them coming.
Thanks Man, Cheers
Me and my brother Larry shoot single shot open sight rifles his is a Model 67 Winchester mine is a 510 Remington. We shoot at 450 yards, with bulk ammo, we have a blast!! Thanks for the video!
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That seems to be the farthest 22 shot I have seen. Well done. Have a good week.
Thanks Toadley, you too, cheers
Toadley Browne if u look it up theres a guy hittin target at 900yds with his 22lr.
LoL, lob some bullets in and see where they hit?
@@chancemccollough8416 same guy,ha
I spent an afternoon shooting a Ruger Mk. IV pistol at a 24"x24" plate at 500yds once. Once I had the right bush picked out maybe 50' above the plate I was good for 4 out of 5 shots on target as long as the wind stayed calm. It looked impressive. Chicks dug it.
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Love the velocitors! I experienced a similar result with the sporadic elevation inconsistencies from velocity deviation. Still a great round to have fun with for longer range .22 fun!
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Amazing character of the 22lr at distance. Great content
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What a beautiful area, I’m truly jealous of you
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Someone show this to garand thumb
Lol, Cheers
Just here to watch if someone had the same idea
CZ 452... excellent choice my good man!
just today, I finally got my 452 in .22lr. I used to own a varmint model in 17hmr... but the damn thing was too expensive to shoot, so I sold it.
also bought a Leupold vx1 2-7×28 rimfire specific scope to go with it! now I wait for the mailman!!!!
They are a great little shooter, Cheers Man all the best
MarkandSam AfterWork you too man!
I subbed to your channel... looking forward to perusing the vids soon :)
Ps. the twelve people who disliked this video have shaky hands, either they can't shoot for shite and thumbed it down... or they really meant to hit the like button and missed ;)
If its available try using the Browning 22 cal LR Ammunition...it states 1435 fps on box and I've chrony'd it at 1430 avg...Velocitor chrony's at 1230 fps ....way to unsteady...we've achieved 700 yds in Central TEXAS and we're chasing you down the road...we've got CZ published out to 500 yds...keep watching over your shoulder...we're a coming your way !
Thanks for that, really do very little with the 22LR, just a bit of fun in the winter time, last year in a different spot we popped a balloon out at 875 yards but video was not good, but as I said just a bit of fun. Camera is a Canon Power shot SX60, they have great zoom for this stuff, Cheers
But we like your videos....we get tired of shooting 7mm-08 , 308 and 30-06 out to 1,000 yds...now that 22 lr out to 720 yds....that's amazing
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That Browning ammo broke the extractor on my savage 187j
farthest iv shot a 22 is 300 and that was pretty tough so im impressed
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I have shoot 200 yards and waiting for the clang on steel. The report of a hit at that range must be crazy long. Love seeing you guys push calibers to new limits.
Thanks Ken, glad to share, Cheers.
The furthest I've ever shot a 22 was about 150 yards and it was subsonic load, took ages to reach the target. This is just outstanding shooting, what was the bullet flight time?
About 3.5 seconds, Cheers
lol man! really? i reached 150 yards with my .177. It was a cocacola bottle 2Litres and it wasn't too difficult. My airgun has +28 joules of energy.
+David waspKL yeah that's with my .22, I like air rifles quite a bit but the furthest I've shot was out to 500 meters with my AR15
28 Joules with a .177? Seems a little too much to keep the pellet under 1.000 fps. What pellets do you use?
JSB Exact Heavy its around 290 m/s
I didn't even think that sort of shot was possible with a .22LR. That proves the "only accurate to 50 yards" brigade wrong. I always thought they had to be ok out to 100 at least. But 720? That's absolutely superb shooting.
Thanks Gordon, yes they are worth way more than 50 yards, Cheers
This is absolutely brilliant.
Glad you enjoyed Cheers
Some of the best color and video resolution I’ve literally seen.
Thanks Man, glad you liked, Cheers
Nice,bright sunny winters day! Only in Australia.
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A Varghese, actually a sunny Winter day in July anywhere South of the equator.
Very impressive shooting at such range with 22LR.
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720 yards ...that's awesome !!!!
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Very kool!
I always loved 22’s.
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Wow! Awesome demonstration.
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Shooting downhill like that I'm sure helped keep the momentum of the bullet. Thank you for doing this experiment, I was curious about the limitations of a .22
You might enjoy this one one then ua-cam.com/video/Fg808TYc2Ao/v-deo.html Cheers
Great little bit of info thanks.
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Just amazing, squared away video and very informative thanks for the insight.
Cheers Man, all the best.
CCI now makes a round called CCI copper. They're supposed to be the fastest. 22lr round made at 1800 fps. Although this test and your marksmanship are outstanding, I would love to see you try it again with the new round.
I would not think those would be able to shoot past 300 yards, even the CCI stringers can not get out there, the lighter bullets do not stay stable. What we found was you need a 40 grain projectile in a 22lr, those are the only ones we have found that can be stretched out to longer ranges. Those CCI copper would be good for flatter shooting in normal 22lr distances. Cheers
+MarkandSam AfterWork their admitted to not be accurate beyond 100 yards
Hey anytime you can shoot and shoot for just the hell of it to see what happens is one hell of a great day. Nice Video.
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Very nicely done. I'm tempted to try this at my 830 yard shooting spot.
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That's some really good shooting from a sitting position. I would actually try 40gr target ammo at 1040 to 1080ft/s; you'll need more elevation obviously, but it doesn't go through transonic and it'll be more consistent.
Loved the video, thanks for making it, I'd like to see this sort of thing again done with high end target ammo.
Thanks John, glad you liked, that would be a lot of elevation, almost double and these rounds are not really having problems with the transonic zone. Cheers and all the best.
I just clicked on the video, haven't watched it yet, and I'm already impressed. Wow, I would have never thought they would be flying stable at that distance.
Hi Kevin, yeh stable with very little if any yaw, and almost out of puff, interesting and fun, Cheers.
yes yet again another great video.. wow I'm learning so much from you and thankyou so much for sharing.. hope you don't mind I sharw your vids on facebook.. I have alot of friends on there from the U.S who are gun writers and testers for popular hunting and outdoor magazines.. well done..
Thanks Clinton, Cheers and all the best.
I used to knock over running jackrabbits at around 400 yards with a Browning .22 SAR with iron sights. I would use the dust kicked up to correct my "aim" and would usually connect on the third shot. I say "aim" because I doubt I was actually aiming. That rifle had become an extension of my body by that time.
Thanks for the story, Cheers
MarkandSam AfterWork G'd Day to you, mate. I thought I was pretty hot stuff with a .22 until one day a friend and I walked up to a beaver pond just to take a gander at it. I had my Browning and he had a Winchester lever gun in .22 mag. Two drake mallards got up. I never even thought about taking a shot for multiple reason, such as it was illegal. Meanwhile I heard a "crack" and one drake went down shot through the head. Click-clack and crack and the second one came down, shot through the head. This was decades ago and I'm still flabbergasted.
Excellent. On that distance it's worked well. Good job mate. Like
Thanks Jozef, Cheers
91+ foot drop!! Too funny.
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Nice color of the rifle. I would love to have my 98-KAR in this color.
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Nice shooting 👏👏👏👏 Cheers
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I got to 500m at 5000ft altitude on a hot day with the round nose cci mini mags, not too consistent but on a still morning I could probably do a bit better. Lots of fun. Great id as usual.
Hi Jordon, yes they are just good fun, Cheers.
Very nice rifle 👍💯
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That is 3/4in pine the military says that 1/2in pine is lethal so with that information I would say a 22lr at 700 yards could kill a human being
Well the 1/2 pine was with natural growth pine, not plantation fast growth pine, so not quite the same and that is why we use 3/4"pine, Cheers and all the best.
impressive. don't ever let anyone say that y'all "down under" aren't a nation of riflemen also.
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I am hitting consistently at 400 yds using my RPR 22. Good idea using the pond. I am working on 500 yds.
Good work Kevin, all the best with your efforts, Cheers
Excellent shooting,thanks for another great video 👍
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Love 22lr
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Hi guys, thanks for the great videos. If possible, can you tell me the name of the app you are using for calculating the range. Thanks
"Measuring Tape" for iPhones
+MarkandSam AfterWork Thanks for the reply
Actually...when a bullet goes through a 3/4inch piece of plywood, it's considered a "lethal"shot. That's the standard for any caliber & as always...great shooting. Take care & have a good day.
thanks Charles, Cheers
Great job
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The guys in America released a spitser boat tail 22lr round, check it out, me and my brother also did some nice work with 22 s years ago, kind regards from South Africa.
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CZ for the win
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I forget who determined it, but I saw on Iraqveteran8888's channel years ago, that any round that can make it through 1/2" plywood in considered lethal. If these rounds made it 7/8ths of the way through 3/4" pine plywood... than the 22lr can kill at 720+ yards.
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Good work
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Excellent work. The target at the waters edge was a great idea.
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Try to get your hands on some Aguila 36 grain hi velocity. They are impressive but not as impressive as your scenery! Truly beautful! Thank you...
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.22 magnum ... can you make a same type of video on it...
We don't have a appropriate rifle in that calibre atm, maybe some time in the future, Cheers
Amazing as usual!
Cheers Man, Thanks
You had a lot of elevation on those shots! Did the barrel end obscure the target in the scope?
No, clear vision.
Oh, my mistake. I'm sure it will be followed by more. God bless
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good shooting and I can not imagine the amount of elevation required for that kind of shot
Thanks Robin, as said in the video it was approximately 145moa elevation for the shot, Cheers
I'm a wee bit surprised you would want to be shooting at water; however, when you can see all that is within 550 yards (~500m) of said water, I guess that takes a bit of the risk out of it....
I think I'm just nervous of shooting at water since a relative of mine died from a 22lr ricochet off the water....but, I must admit the shooter and the victim were both at waters edge (standing quite close to one another, not across the water or anything crazy)...but, I digress
Nice shooting, nice rifle, nice camera, nice video, nice setting....oh yeah, & nice pod on that rifle, that looks very flexible (adjustable) & quite sturdy. I would be out every arvo playing with that rig too, if it were mine.
Thanks for that and yes all worked out and safe, well before the figure touched the trigger, cheers and all the best.
Excellant video !
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I occasionally shoot .22LR from 100-300yards and never see any key holes or odd target holes. A guy in the comment section of a video told me that my bullets were tumbling when they went sub sonic then re stabilizing to leave a clean bullet hole on the target. Im 99% sure he is wrong. Do you think that the .22lr bullet is tumbling then re stabilizing over longer distances? From my experience the transition from supersonic to sub sonic(with .22lr) seems to have minimal impact on bullet flight. Great vid as always, thanks for uploading.
Hi Robert, thanks for your comment. Your are right, in fact bullets can "wobble" when going transonic and then re stabilize to retain their flight path, but if they start to tumbler they will not recover. Cheers and all the best.
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22 lr stay stabile longer than some centerfire rounds.More than 1000 yards.Most of shooters dont know that.
Pretty impressive. I always figured a .22 round would get its ass handed to it by the wind at a distance like that.
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Great shooting but you are wrong about the flesh wound thing. Potentially fatal shot at that distance depending on location of impact on the body
Thanks Man, was just referring to an old school military reference on a pine board test, Cheers
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I clicked on this video just to see how far the scope had to be sloped to pull off that distance :)
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Are you using a manfrotto tripod? What head are you using for it?
Yes it is and that is a manfrotto ball swivel with a quick release rail mount unit fitted.
Hi Mark & Sam!
I think your channel is just great, especially the "22lr ELR" series that you guys have been posting.
Im planning a 22lr "low cost" build with a single shot Walther match rifle as a base,
whats your experience with the FX No Limit rings?
Are they reliable or do they shift easy if they would get knocked around a bit?
A solid mount would be the best I suppose, but I do like the adjustability of these rings.
Keep it up!
//Ted
Hi Ted, I have found those rings to be problem free for use on a rim fire, Cheers
I know you are shooting so downhill it's not funny, but if that was someones head, they'd be dead as a doe doe. Ye ol' 22lr - what an amazing round. I'm a big 223 fan, but credit where it's due, 22lr - I loose respect for anyone who scoffs at it. Hmm, I wonder what a 17 mhr would do?
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Who else is here chasing the coke can dream?
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Bloody good! Cheers!
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i shot 22 out to 300 meters and found that already quite hard (30cm aluminum animal silhoutes) ,good shooting (y)
Thanks, Cheers
I think that was more like 5 or 6 MOA. The board was 24x24. 3 MOA would hit in a circle 23" in diameter, which would fit on the board. 4 MOA would hit in a circle 31" in diameter, and give you about a 75-80% hit rate on a 2'×2' square target.
Hit rate will give you the easiest approximation of MOA. 5 MOA is a 50% hit rate. 6 MOA is about 36%, which seems more accurate.
What I absolutely cannot understand is how you don't seem to have keyholing. That is really surprising to me.
Lol, not really trying to group, just a bit of fun and a bit interesting. also keep in mind, with ELR, conditions have more control than rifle, and as for stability, we see this all the time, things don't go a crazy during the transonic zone as many people think and here is more evidence of that, Cheers
@@markandsamafterwork Do you sort the ammo? Do you have chrony data for them? What twist rate is your barrel?
For anyone reading this thinking that 5 or 6 MOA is bad, I suggest you go out and try to replicate this shot. This is really impressive.
Hi again, no just out of the box, but yes to sort by weight and size would help this sort of ammo, but truth is it shot better than I had hoped, and as said was really just a bit of interesting fun, it is also a stock 452, I think they run 1:16, we just tested several lots of ammo previously and found the CCI Velocitor work at these long ranges, cheers and all the best.
What is the objective size on that scope? It looks massive
56mm
Do you think a 22lr sv 1100fps could travel 800 meters with a 200 meter rise in elevation? Thanks. My 3 favorite people in W. Australia, Mark, Sam and Minjee Lee.
The elevation change does make much difference, but only some 22lr bullets will travel that far, you will have see, Cheers
Not bad at all for 22lr
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surprising accuracy at that range.... wonder if it loses stabilization at what range.
Most 22lr rounds loss it way before this range, the 40grain bullets or at least these seem to keep there stability and I would think keep it until the land.Cheers and all the best.
Good shooting.
I would question the flesh wound idea, plywood isn't the same as flesh. Less likely to be fatal? Absolutely but not impossible. That being said, great video. Lots of useful information.
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Back in the day the US Army did some testing and concluded that if a round can pass through 3/4" pine, then it potentially has enough energy to create a mortal wound. Not an exact science, but good rule of thumb type thing.
Are you allowed to shoot anywhere ? or do you need to ask for permission?
As per anywhere in the world, you should always have permission.
Great video Mark, will that be the record distance for a .22 cal ?
Don't know about records, but this link has our longest shot so far with the cal, ua-cam.com/video/Fg808TYc2Ao/v-deo.html, Cheers