The way relievers just casually trot out to the field cracks me up. It’s basically saying “I hope this cools off before we have to go all the way out there.”
No way. Next season 1999 lineup was the best Cleveland lineup ever. Same as this lineup except add Roberto Alomar .323 avg, 24 HR, and 120 RBI and add Richie Sexton's 31 HR and 116 RBI. Omar Vizquel hit 50 points higher than the previous season and Manny Ramirez hit 40 points higher
If O remember right Randy’s fastball was over 100 mph. Sliders do get away and that first one probably dod…second was intentional… Love the old baseball…you knew the rules, played and took the consequences. It’s not just the pitch…its the headgame!
@playdiscgolf1546 As a Bulls fan, I agree with you about NBA in the 90s, but those 87-84 games were brutal to watch sometimes. That being said, I'll take the 90s anytime over today. The rivalries were real. The teams legit did not like each other. And none of the 3- ball, no D stuff from today. Those games were wars.
@@superglx7028 Actually, they're pretty awesome to watch right now. As of today (7/7/24), they're 55-32, best record in the AL, and the second best record in the MLB) IF you're paying attention and just not living life stuck in the past, that is ...
It's absolutely amazing how many hall of famers Seattle had on their team in the 90s (that were in their prime as well) and they couldn't even appear in a World Series.
@thesciguy4823 Gotta agree with you there. Umpires need to even it out in order to maintain peace. The better thing here would have been to throw out Piniella for allowing RJ to throw that purpose pitch a second time.
@@TheBigBigSean Purchased by Nike in 2004 (probably to remove competition) and then sold by Nike to Iconix Brand in 2007. They still make jackets for some pro teams in the old style. Your best bet to find a vintage Indians jacket is Ebay, though.
late 1950’s they were the Dayton Indians two blocks almost n my back yard-I was the ballboy $1.for each ball returned-when left went to Cleveland they left all papergoods visors u name it
Randy was just trying to show Kenny what it would look like if he actually wanted to throw at him. Kenny earned that chin music after he threw a tantrum about a slider
Absolutely absurd that Alomar and Lofton were ejected. The only reason they reacted the way they did is because the umpire failed to do his job by immediately ejecting Johnson after the second pitch.
@@Pocket_FoxThe recording quality definitely affects how old I thought it looked but it was also the haircuts,the team bomber jackets,the umpires old school uniform,the catchers protection,everything looks so dated but then when I think it’s almost 30 years ago!Crazy,time flies
@jimgray3346 the athletes are still awesome...better than ever. The game and rules have changed. I'm in my mid 40s. .not too old. The games are just different and the wokeness is what really pushed me away
@@HereonTubeYousports have always somewhat resisted the wokeness. Consider the Phillies dropping bud light as a stadium beer after that trans mess the thing I can’t stand the most is the gambling aspect and the, how can I say, angry-ness of it. Fuck happened to the umps? Makes it unwatchable. Even football and the refs.
He was also sour on the Mariners not giving him an extension in the off season. He had a rather poor last four months in Seattle, then found his mojo when he was traded to Houston. He actually got some votes for the NL Cy Young after that change in scenery.
Sparky won a Championship with The Cincinnati Reds and the Detroit Tigers becoming the first manager to win it all in both leagues. He's the greatest manager the Reds ever had and the greatest Manager The Tigers ever had. He's 5th or 6th all time in wins as a manager.
there has already been like 6 or 7 bench clearing fights this season, punches thrown even. players still get thrown at deliberately, and theres been a handful of manager ejections already in the last month. No idea why you think its not like this still.
Johnson shoulda immediately been booted after the 2nd head hunt on Lofton. The fact it took 2 bench clearing altercations to get to that was unreal. Ejecting Lofton was completely unnecessary as he was twice the victim.
@@JasonScroggins-c4i actually grew up in El Segundo CA, an extremely competitive baseball town as last year's LLWS champs can attest. Knowing the intricacies that make baseball a little edgy at times but also understanding the line and when not to cross it is a delicate dance. But yes to avoid what coulda been an even worse situation Johnson shoulda been ejected immediately after the second pitch. He's way to good a pitcher to miss 2 in a row at someone's head. And @100mph I'd hate to see what woulda happened if it hit Lofton. Probably woulda exploded like a bird mid flight.
@user-fs3iy7em2t That's a dumbass attitude toward objects moving nearly 100mph coming at people's heads. You know. That could straight up kill someone? That's not being competitive by any sane person's imagination.
@@JasonScroggins-c4i This is the over-co.pensating, testosterone-deprived male logic applied to anything "men" do as a defense to excuse the moronic dude-bro behavior that escalates every situation. People like this almost always get their ass beat when push comes to shove.
@@mplslawnguy3389Has ZERO to do with me playing at a high level, or low level. Unless your being intentionally thrown at, its not a dangerous game. How many injuries, just an average, per game? Give me a break.
Same..... it's insane Randy didn't get immediately tossed after the 2nd throw. Granted, it was 1998. Also realized my facial and regular hair right now is the same as Randy, lol
I remember this. I was swimming in my parents' pool, listening to the radio. This was the first inside-the-park home run by an Indian at then Jacob's Field.
Yeah, I can see not getting involved in the first one. That was just a slider getting away. But if you're going to buzz the tower at 97, you better get in there and back it up instead of letting your manager fight for you.
@@JDubs997 He was just annoyed that Lofton got so upset at the slider that he had to send a message with the next one. Note, like the announcer said, the fastball wasn't as close to him as the slider that got away. He wasn't trying to hit him or hurt him, just express displeasure with him getting butthurt on the first pitch.
@@LucianDevine Johnson was a gutless punk. Pure and simple. He wants to pretend that he missed the strike zone by 4 feet with that slider? B.S. he threw at the guys head. It was the only way he could seem tough. He certainly couldn't back it up. And he didn't even have to get in the box.
Ahhh Lou Pinella . . as a young man and a Cincinnati Reds fan in 1990 I remember being at the first two Series games in Cinci when the Reds, the Nasty Boys nd Lou kicked the A's ass. Thanks for the video it actually brought back memories of Lou managing the Reds!!
Brian Giles actually came in to catch and had 2 RBI's, but the Tribe ended up losing. Can't believe Lou didn't have a heart attack at some point during this.
If the umpire had issued warnings before that second pitch, Lou should have been tossed as well. So maybe it wasn't an official warning (to both benches) Either that, or the video didn't show it.
This is one of the weirdest bench clearers I've ever seen because Randy is SO aggressive in telling him it was unintentional that it sparks the benches to clear.
@@75yellowravenSo he threw the pitch that has plausible deniability. Clever. Like bombing a country with conventional bombs and then saying if I really wanted to bomb you I would have used nukes.
@@KB-eo9bu Yeah, baseball was serious national business in the '60s, before the NFL started to dominate after Namath and the Jets won a Super Bowl. Namath gave a big boost to the NFL, I think.
MLB is killing itself. Too much interleague play = less division rivalry= less fan engagement, plus pitchers can’t even pitch inside without fear of being ejected for getting batters off the plate
@@afridgetoofar1818 You are correct… but it is important to remember that the new ballpark opened in 1994, the roster being much improved and actually good, and that the Browns left town after their 1995 season. These were all contributing factors in Jacob’s Field being a ridiculously awesome madhouse in the mid-to-late ‘90s.
@@johnnydropkicks believe me, I was a diehard fan back then. I also remember the resurgence in from 2004-2007. After 2010 I sorta stopped following as a die hard fan and have been casual ever since
@@cyclopsvision6370lmfao. Yeah. Way to make it obvious u never really fought someone bigger then u or know anything about fighting with out actually saying it.😂😂😂
@@Obelov what a weird thing to be a contrarian about in a chat about baseball players. YOU KNOW NUTTIN ABOUT FIGHTING LET ALONE IN DAH BASEBALL HAHA YAY I GOT TO COMMENT ON SOMETHING DURRR DURR DUR. What a nard.
I love that this sort of stuff is preserved for posterity. Magical times in baseball in those days, when there was still some nobility and respect for the game. Thanks for sharing this!
@@oloruncorey6745 Gibson was a special case. He had an objectively good reason (usually a respect issue) if he was displeased with you. And players knew that. They _knew_ they were in the wrong. That's a different kind of "scary" than you'd have for a pitcher who's just a hot-head . . .
I like Randy Johnson, but this seemed a bit classless. If David Bell, who if I recall, wasn't exactly renown for his speed, can hit a stand up inside-the-parker on you, that's on you.
Johnson was intimidating Lofton because he was a big time stolen base threat with one out. Bartolo Colon was throwing well so they needed to be careful about run support. It had nothing to do with Bell. Just a lucky hit.
This Cleveland team was stacked.. the whole mid 1990's roster. Kenny Lofton, Marquis Grissom, Julio Franco, Carlos Baerga, Omar Vasquez, Sandy Alomar, Roberto Alomar, Albert Belle, Manny Ramirez, Matt Williams, Jim Thome, David Justice, Orel Hershiser... Insane. Still can't believe how they never won a World Series.
Cleveland was electric with the Indians back in '95 - '98. They had a great lineup and the entire city was energized with having a great team after so many bad years.
@@TheMrSuge Fr. These boomers always make stuff up to hate on the current generation. 💀 don’t know why they hate the current generation but it seems they do.
@@richardeast3328No, Johnson started it by being butthurt over the inside-the-park home run and retaliating. Not sure why people defend him so much. Yeah, he was a great pitcher. He was also an asshole.
Randy Johnson definitely deserved to be ejected. The first pitch MAY have been a slider, but the 2nd pitch was definitely deliberately aimed at Lofton's head.
@@bnegs521 Minimal work ethic but still hit 600 HR and finished with just under .300 BA. Imagine if he had actually put hard work into his play. A couple of years after his move to the Reds I was talking with some guy who had just moved here from southern Ohio. He regurgitated the party line about Junior destroying his knees on the Kingdome astroturf, I politely explained to him that someone tearing their hammie trying to score from first on a clean double in the first month of the season is the result of not staying in shape.
Kenny Lofton was one of my favorite players as a kid, Randy Johnson is from my hometown 🤯 It’s hilarious how Randy acted like nothing was happening the whole time, even after being ejected.😂
Cleveland no doubt had some awesome ballers (big Jim Thome fan here) but the M's also had their stars that year. Ken Griffey Jr, Edgar Martinez, A-Rod (pre-steroid), Jay Buhner, Big Unit. And of course LOOOOUUU! Not too shabby--until our horrible front office broke up what should have become a dynasty.
I’m Randy Johnson. I’m literally the biggest prima donna pitcher. You can’t score a run against me in a game where the entire objective is to score runs. How dare you.
Who the hell was Johnson kidding - those were both intentional because he got shown up. Throwing at batters is an essential part of the game, but there was no need to throw at him in that situation. Randy Johnson ALWAYS proved that he never, ever deserved the benefit of the doubt.
Damn, the year I graduated HS! Man these were much better days. Sure technology and all is great but America isn't even close to what it was back then. I don't even want to know what it will look like in 30 years. I don't even care about sports anymore, it's all political and what not anyhow.
I am not a Cleveland baseball fan here but clearly when you throw a purpose pitch after someone hits a HR or an Inside the Park HR, benches should be warned and they were by the Umpiring Crew Chief and when it happened again, not only should Randy Johnson of the Mariners be ejected from the game but also Lou Pinella should of been ejected too, bottom line. Also, if any pitcher that gives up a HR to any hitter then he should take responsibility for his screw up and not throw at another hitter because that's your own damn fault!
Americans should really look at cricket some time. If your delivery goes in the vicinity of the head (known as a beamer) you get a warning. A second time and you are tossed. Saves a lot of trouble.
I think hit by the pitch should be rewarded with 2 bases instead of 1. There should be more consequences to hitting someone. The batter shouldn't get the same as if he was intentionally walked
@@mplslawnguy3389Nah it's totally a spineless move. Even in actual contact sports, it's highly frowned upon to deliberately try and injure your opponent. Baseball is the only sport where people are weirdly ok with someone throwing a potentially lethal projectile at someone's head just because they got their feelings hurt.
@@vct454 It’s baseball. It’s always existed, and it’s the oldest game in the US. If you’re going to headhunt, better be ready to defend yourself, which a lot of pitchers actually do. Sounds like you’re kind of soft and should stick to the WNBA or LPGA.
The way relievers just casually trot out to the field cracks me up. It’s basically saying “I hope this cools off before we have to go all the way out there.”
Hahahahahaha the slowest response time of any "first responder" group. "Yes! The cavalry is coming...guys - the fight is over." 🤣
I want to see the Dez Bryant of relievers be like "nah, I'm not doing it. I was drafted to sit in this bullpen, not jog in to fight the Big Unit"
In Ball Four, Jim Bouton actually writes about that....He would tell the guys, "Wait until it dies down then go out there and act furious!"
@@iainl9725 I’ve been meaning to read that. Thanks for the reminder!
Woodrow Wilson in 1915
Is it weird that I remember every player and this game was over 25 years ago, yet I don’t know very many players who play today?
Yes because baseball used to be fun. Now it's garbage.
This is such a spot on comment - one of those things that you don't realize yourself until someone else puts it to words.
There are 8 possible future HoF in this game (Griffey, R. Johnson, A-Rod, Edgar, Thome, Manny, Lofton, Vizquel). This will never happen again.
@@MeneTekelUpharsinmost of them aren’t and will not be in the hof
@@CCPAFEL But they played like ones
This was the greatest Cleveland lineup of all time.
No way. Next season 1999 lineup was the best Cleveland lineup ever. Same as this lineup except add Roberto Alomar .323 avg, 24 HR, and 120 RBI and add Richie Sexton's 31 HR and 116 RBI. Omar Vizquel hit 50 points higher than the previous season and Manny Ramirez hit 40 points higher
@@alexh8613 Both were great squads. Man, that '99 2-0 choke to Boston is still gutwrenching to this day.
@@Skazellino Yeah, as a Red Sox fan, we didn't expect to win that series.
Not even close
Seattle hâd 4 HOF players on that team. (AROD will be in someday)
first pitch "that was a slider". second pitch "THAT was meant for your head".
If O remember right Randy’s fastball was over 100 mph.
Sliders do get away and that first one probably dod…second was intentional…
Love the old baseball…you knew the rules, played and took the consequences.
It’s not just the pitch…its the headgame!
@@PatriciaMadsen-cu7wj
Big Unit was clocked once at 103. But even late in his career, was throwing 95+ both fastballs and sliders.
Kenny was asking for a "Bow-Tie"
lol there was no doubt about the 2nd pitch
@@Sterlingx11there was no doubt about that FIRST pitch!
The best time in baseball. The 90s were absolute fire for every sport. And Lou Pinella was a straight gangster
Peak roids
Sweet Lou is a badass!
he was a grown ass man acting like a child.
Even our man in Minnesota, Tom Kelly, was a gangster. Mild-mannered, soft-spoken, cigar-chewing, horse-track gambling gangster. Good times then, huh!?
It was the best of times.....and the worst. The juicing was prevalent during this era. Not saying Randy was but many other steroid sluggers were.
Bad heading on the video. What caused the benches to clear was the pitch Randy Johnson threw at Kenny loftons head.
Yeah what did the home run have to do with any of this lol
Idk but it was a cool play and fun to watch as a mariners fan who came to appreciate Bell when he played for us not long afterwards.
Very true
@@isaiahcoleman52because he threw at him the pitch after the HR?
@@playdiscgolf1546it's not even close to the next pitch. The HR was in the first; the stuff with Lofton is in the third
Starter jackets check, bad ass umpire caps check, gangsta managers check, best decade in baseball imop check. Respectful fans check.
Comment is on point! Couldn't agree with you more.
All 4 sports were best in the 90s honestly
@@playdiscgolf1546 heck yeah
@playdiscgolf1546 As a Bulls fan, I agree with you about NBA in the 90s, but those 87-84 games were brutal to watch sometimes. That being said, I'll take the 90s anytime over today. The rivalries were real. The teams legit did not like each other. And none of the 3- ball, no D stuff from today. Those games were wars.
@@JDubs997 true story 🤙🤙
Thanks for this, I've seen ESPN highlight clips from their broadcast, but never the full thing. This was damn testy.
Thank you so much for putting this video on the tube. Brings back tons of memories!
The mid-late 90s Indians were awesome to watch I love watching these recaps
“We just chillen” -Albert Bonilla
@@superglx7028
Actually, they're pretty awesome to watch right now. As of today (7/7/24), they're 55-32, best record in the AL, and the second best record in the MLB)
IF you're paying attention and just not living life stuck in the past, that is ...
The Mariners had some awesome teams too.
@@mplslawnguy3389 oh yeah definitely Ken Griffey jr and Randy Johnson to bad Ichiro didn't start off in the MLB because it would have been crazy
It's absolutely amazing how many hall of famers Seattle had on their team in the 90s (that were in their prime as well) and they couldn't even appear in a World Series.
You can thank the Yankees for that. AL was stacked in those years.
@@brothermichael8442 Yah I know.... but it still pisses me off lol.
@@brothermichael8442the Ms only lost to the Yankees after they'd traded most of their HOF's away
@@aa-ze5cz i know man.. i grew up in seattle watching that team and went to tons of games at the kingdome .. still butthurt
baseball is a fickle mistress
I watched this with my dad as it was happening one of the best memories
I love those memories where an otherwise-mundane experience just sticks with you forever
The fact that Cleveland lost TWO players in this interaction, is outrageous.
Cleveland and refs dont mix
white privelage
@thesciguy4823
Gotta agree with you there. Umpires need to even it out in order to maintain peace. The better thing here would have been to throw out Piniella for allowing RJ to throw that purpose pitch a second time.
Curse of Cleveland sports
Once you saw the Starter jackets, you knew it was close to October baseball. Best time of year
Lmao! This was in April
@@teelowteelow356 So. Doesn’t change the fact that it feels like October baseball when the teams are wearing jackets
Now it's cheap hooded sweatshirts. Hey it's all about the bottom line. MLB sucks.
What ever happened to Starter?
@@TheBigBigSean Purchased by Nike in 2004 (probably to remove competition) and then sold by Nike to Iconix Brand in 2007. They still make jackets for some pro teams in the old style. Your best bet to find a vintage Indians jacket is Ebay, though.
I was front row of right field for this game! Wow. I was 11. So cool to see this again!
ngl, a Randy Johnson slider is still probably like 90mph
I thought he was Arizona? Maybe trading. But Randy is amazing pitcher.
@@daytimestudios3678 uhhh... what?
@@daytimestudios3678 He started out with the Expos, to Seattle, then to Arizona, then the Yanks, back to Arizona and he finished with the Giants.
close, if I recall correctly, his sliders were often 87mph
@@choco1101 that was later in his career, in the 90s (like this clip) he was hitting low 90s with his slider, consistently
I was a teenager living off e.185th when this Indians team was rolling. Great childhood memories.
late 1950’s they were the Dayton Indians two blocks almost n my back yard-I was the ballboy $1.for each ball returned-when left went to Cleveland they left all papergoods visors u name it
@@daytonwoodford4386 awesome memory, thanks for sharing
Go Tribe
@@daytonwoodford4386I believe you are confusing a minor league team with the Cleveland Indians of the MLB who began play in 1901 in the mlb
Muldoons!!!!!!!
After the second pitch at Lofton's head, you've GOTTA eject Johnson......PERIOD!!
And they did
Randy was just trying to show Kenny what it would look like if he actually wanted to throw at him. Kenny earned that chin music after he threw a tantrum about a slider
@@rustyshackleford446
So he was proving he is a worthless PoS?
He could have killed him and the second time was intentional. That’s f’d up.
Johnson was a psycho.
Hearing Dan Patrick and Randy Johnson reminiscing about this was gold.
Yeah, there's no way I'm standing in the the right batter's box with Randy Johnson throwing sliders on the mound. I value my life.
But you will stand in the left?
Especially when your guy just hit a home run. Then you get hit intentionally.
@@1972Raybut he didn’t just hit a home run. That was the first inning and this was the third.
Absolutely absurd that Alomar and Lofton were ejected. The only reason they reacted the way they did is because the umpire failed to do his job by immediately ejecting Johnson after the second pitch.
It didn't work like that in the 90s. Nothing happen to be ejected.
You can't eject someone for throwing inside lol. Lofton and Alomar behaved like animals and that's why they got ejected.
@@johnd3233 You can for intentionally throwing at a batter, which that head high fastball absolutely was.
@@johnd3233 Tell me that you've never watched a baseball game without telling me you've never watched a baseball game.
Right.Johnson was too good to throw 2 consecutive pitches like that.100% intentional🤷🏽♂️
I love how there are 40+ guys pushing each other and 6' 10" Randy Johnson - the instigator - standing on the mound by himself.
I thought he was going to rush the plate.
Lofton should have took his knee out with the bat after the second one.
No one will go out to the mound after Johnson.
He didn't shower much.
Because he was a coward
Can’t believe this is 1998…I was 20 and it looks like 1986!
We're so used to HD resolution that anything standard def looks older than it really is.
@@Pocket_FoxThe recording quality definitely affects how old I thought it looked but it was also the haircuts,the team bomber jackets,the umpires old school uniform,the catchers protection,everything looks so dated but then when I think it’s almost 30 years ago!Crazy,time flies
No way
Fledgling internet, people weren’t so interconnected. Now we move at warp speed and it’s only gettin’ faster.
Filmed on a freakin motorola Razr no less
I was at this game. Thanks for posting.
80's and 90's were the pinnacle of all sports...I hate watching sports today
It's still awesome dude. You probably just outgrew it. That's OK too
Athletes were much tougher in the 80s and 90s especially in the NBA and MLB.
@jimgray3346 the athletes are still awesome...better than ever. The game and rules have changed. I'm in my mid 40s. .not too old. The games are just different and the wokeness is what really pushed me away
@@HereonTubeYousports have always somewhat resisted the wokeness.
Consider the Phillies dropping bud light as a stadium beer after that trans mess
the thing I can’t stand the most is the gambling aspect and the, how can I say, angry-ness of it. Fuck happened to the umps? Makes it unwatchable. Even football and the refs.
They keep trying these weird experiments in Baseball that are not needed. Greatest game ever invented. Quit fucking with it.
Randy Johnson still sour on Loftons hustle from 1995 scoring from second on a passed ball in the clinching ALCS game.
Lofton stole every base on Unit I'm surprised he didn't steal his wallet 😂😂😂😂
@@ShallOvercome24-7 ikr because he's black
@@ShallOvercome24-7he probably would've been less offended if he had 😂😂😂
He was also sour on the Mariners not giving him an extension in the off season. He had a rather poor last four months in Seattle, then found his mojo when he was traded to Houston. He actually got some votes for the NL Cy Young after that change in scenery.
@@MDK2_Radio rarely stated and talked about
My favorite 2 Reds managers ,Sweet Lou and current manager David Bell.
I loved Sparkey Anderson but those 2 and Pete Rose are there as well.
Wait it's THAT David Bell? O dang....I didn't put 2 and 2 together.
I obviously knew Lou.
Bell was the everyday 3B for the 116 game winning 2001 Mariners and along with Brett Boone a 3rd generation big leaguer on the team.
Too young to remember Sparky huh?😅
Sparky won a Championship with The Cincinnati Reds and the Detroit Tigers becoming the first manager to win it all in both leagues. He's the greatest manager the Reds ever had and the greatest Manager The Tigers ever had. He's 5th or 6th all time in wins as a manager.
Damn, i miss when baseball was like this
I didn’t see any baseball 😄
Don't you... More exciting to watch than now although I still love the game...
there has already been like 6 or 7 bench clearing fights this season, punches thrown even. players still get thrown at deliberately, and theres been a handful of manager ejections already in the last month. No idea why you think its not like this still.
Chief Wahoo on the hat and those red Indians jackets!
@@kayceeyouChief Wahoo is dead. Let that racist logo go, man.
Johnson shoulda immediately been booted after the 2nd head hunt on Lofton. The fact it took 2 bench clearing altercations to get to that was unreal. Ejecting Lofton was completely unnecessary as he was twice the victim.
Lol you must be from Ohio 😂
...everyone here in Seattle's like
"awwwww cumon Ump, it was just some healthy backyard competitiveness" 😂😂😂
@@JasonScroggins-c4i actually grew up in El Segundo CA, an extremely competitive baseball town as last year's LLWS champs can attest. Knowing the intricacies that make baseball a little edgy at times but also understanding the line and when not to cross it is a delicate dance. But yes to avoid what coulda been an even worse situation Johnson shoulda been ejected immediately after the second pitch. He's way to good a pitcher to miss 2 in a row at someone's head. And @100mph I'd hate to see what woulda happened if it hit Lofton. Probably woulda exploded like a bird mid flight.
@user-fs3iy7em2t That's a dumbass attitude toward objects moving nearly 100mph coming at people's heads.
You know. That could straight up kill someone? That's not being competitive by any sane person's imagination.
@@JasonScroggins-c4i This is the over-co.pensating, testosterone-deprived male logic applied to anything "men" do as a defense to excuse the moronic dude-bro behavior that escalates every situation. People like this almost always get their ass beat when push comes to shove.
@@JasonScroggins-c4iI'd bet your adult diapers would be bursting at the seams with Randy Johnson throwing 102 at your head
If the ump reasonably suspects intentional targeting, the pitcher should get a stiff fine and suspension. The game is dangerous enough.
What? Bowling is more dangerous than baseball.
I know for a fact you drink Soylent and drive an electric car.
@@NO--BS.Then you’ve never played baseball at a high level.
@@mplslawnguy3389Has ZERO to do with me playing at a high level, or low level. Unless your being intentionally thrown at, its not a dangerous game. How many injuries, just an average, per game? Give me a break.
@@NO--BS. You’ve clearly never played sports period, beyond teeball or little kids soccer.
Those starter jackets are so cool
🤣 Classics! 💯
Don't you just love how baseball players and coaches act tough once their being held back?
I think that goes for most guys, baseball players or not.
*they're, their is possessive.
Also you're lucky the grammar police are holding me back.
Yah so Fuuuuny that if they let lofton & pinalla go, well just gonna say, See ya at your funeral Uncle Lou ⚾⚾🤣👏
the pitcher walked straight toward the batter.
@@jamesswain2465 true
Didn't expect to watch all 9 minutes. But I did.
Haha same.
Same..... it's insane Randy didn't get immediately tossed after the 2nd throw. Granted, it was 1998.
Also realized my facial and regular hair right now is the same as Randy, lol
Same
I was 8 when i watched this live and remember it better than what happened last week. Legendary
I remember this. I was swimming in my parents' pool, listening to the radio. This was the first inside-the-park home run by an Indian at then Jacob's Field.
You never swam in that pool.
i love how randy is just standing there, watching the fight he created
jeez i created a war in the replies
"... Maybe I'll hit a bird with a pitch next time just to see what it feels like"
Big and tall and that’s about it, he doesn’t want any smoke from lofton
Yeah, I can see not getting involved in the first one. That was just a slider getting away. But if you're going to buzz the tower at 97, you better get in there and back it up instead of letting your manager fight for you.
@@JDubs997 He was just annoyed that Lofton got so upset at the slider that he had to send a message with the next one. Note, like the announcer said, the fastball wasn't as close to him as the slider that got away. He wasn't trying to hit him or hurt him, just express displeasure with him getting butthurt on the first pitch.
@@LucianDevine Johnson was a gutless punk. Pure and simple. He wants to pretend that he missed the strike zone by 4 feet with that slider? B.S. he threw at the guys head. It was the only way he could seem tough. He certainly couldn't back it up. And he didn't even have to get in the box.
Second pitch right by his eyes !!! Whoa
Only in baseball can you pick a fight with someone with a bat in their hands…..
@@playdiscgolf1546 same with hockey
Yeah, I'm a Mariners fan, but Randy had to go after that.
The ol' "Bow-tie Pitch", taught to him by the Ryan Express, who learned it from Satchel Paige.
@@ricoricky98 oh no doubt, but I’d rather be slashed than hit with a bat…haha
_"...inside the park home run leads to benches clearing..."_
Now THAT is the baseball I know and love. What a title!
Sad thing is that ball should've been caught
*sees Randy Johnson*
Oh shi...
Except for the fact it had NOTHING to do with it
Ahhh Lou Pinella . . as a young man and a Cincinnati Reds fan in 1990 I remember being at the first two Series games in Cinci when the Reds, the Nasty Boys nd Lou kicked the A's ass. Thanks for the video it actually brought back memories of Lou managing the Reds!!
They're not booing, they're saying "Lou!". Man, those Cleveland fans sure do love Lou Piniella.
I was saying “Lou-urns.”
@@Cravanicus Beat me to it.
Looooopa-nellllla
Jomboy needs to do a breakdown
Would love to see it. Throwback breakdown
No - he doesn't. The less we hear from him, the better.
I think he did one already
@@davyhall6886 Who pissed in your corn flakes Karen?
@@davyhall6886cope about it
Brian Giles actually came in to catch and had 2 RBI's, but the Tribe ended up losing.
Can't believe Lou didn't have a heart attack at some point during this.
This was far from Lou’s most apoplectic moment! He could (and did) do a lot better than this!
Can't imagine why Piniella wasn't tossed. Wonder what magic word Alomar uttered? Lofton should never have been ejected.
If the umpire had issued warnings before that second pitch, Lou should have been tossed as well. So maybe it wasn't an official warning (to both benches) Either that, or the video didn't show it.
@@transitfan954 Yes, I hear you. This was 1998, not sure when the automatic ejection rule came into effect after a warning.
Lofton may have attempted to charge the mound, or could have been an instigator
@@cyclopsvision6370 Mabe but there is no evidence of that.
Lol u can't throw Johnson without Lofton too...
But honestly, no one should of been thrown out, nothing ever happened.😂
This is one of the weirdest bench clearers I've ever seen because Randy is SO aggressive in telling him it was unintentional that it sparks the benches to clear.
Basically he was saying if I wanted to hit you I wouldn’t throw that and you probably would be on your way to the hospital..😀
Because it was intentional. Both were intentional. Johnson hated Kenny because Lofton made Johnson look dumb in game 6 of the 1995 ALCS.
@@cornpop3954 I know he hated him but I'm pretty sure he didn't try and intentionally hit him with a slider, because that's nonsensical
@@williammcguire130
Randy Johnson had pin point control. He was trying to take Lofton's head off. Was it really a slider?
@@75yellowravenSo he threw the pitch that has plausible deniability. Clever. Like bombing a country with conventional bombs and then saying if I really wanted to bomb you I would have used nukes.
Mr Snappy. That's what his slider was called. I'd go watch him pitch every five days back in the kingdome. One of the all-time greats imo
90s baseball is the best ever and early 00s.
When the Diamond Backs won the World Series baseball fans went crazy!!!!
Wrong 60'S 70'S 80's! Today OVER Paid 💰💸 Crybabies 😢😭
@@KB-eo9bu Yeah, baseball was serious national business in the '60s, before the NFL started to dominate after Namath and the Jets won a Super Bowl. Namath gave a big boost to the NFL, I think.
Holy shit, when Sandy Alomar is going ballistic you know shit is bad! 😆
Hes a unit
Right? Robbie was always the crazy one... Sandy just came to work and kicked ass. Sandy was ready to kick a whole other kind of ass this night...
Taking a look at the sold-out and electric crowd, one might assume this to be a playoff game or a season/home opener. It is not.
MLB is killing itself. Too much interleague play = less division rivalry= less fan engagement, plus pitchers can’t even pitch inside without fear of being ejected for getting batters off the plate
Indians fans used to pack the Jake. The electricity is long gone.
@@afridgetoofar1818 You are correct… but it is important to remember that the new ballpark opened in 1994, the roster being much improved and actually good, and that the Browns left town after their 1995 season. These were all contributing factors in Jacob’s Field being a ridiculously awesome madhouse in the mid-to-late ‘90s.
@@johnnydropkicks believe me, I was a diehard fan back then. I also remember the resurgence in from 2004-2007. After 2010 I sorta stopped following as a die hard fan and have been casual ever since
@@afridgetoofar1818 Your story applies to me exactly. 👍
They will always be the Tribe and that was such a great season. Love YA!!!
Why wasn’t Johnson immediately ejected?
different times
Hilarious how Randy Johnson was standing around by himself, nobody wanted any of him. lol. 100% savage.
nothing to fear, go for his knees, don't matter how tall they are, they go down hard
After that second pitch, Kenny was headed to the mound, bat still in his hand. Randy earned that ejection, and deserved more.
Lmfao! @@djdeadbolt5911 u silly kids.😂😂😂 ur either 12 or a Cleveland Homer. 😂😂😂
@@cyclopsvision6370lmfao. Yeah. Way to make it obvious u never really fought someone bigger then u or know anything about fighting with out actually saying it.😂😂😂
@@Obelov what a weird thing to be a contrarian about in a chat about baseball players. YOU KNOW NUTTIN ABOUT FIGHTING LET ALONE IN DAH BASEBALL HAHA YAY I GOT TO COMMENT ON SOMETHING DURRR DURR DUR. What a nard.
Randy Johnson was gunning for Kenny Lofton. Clear as day. What a jerk!
Zero class.
I love that this sort of stuff is preserved for posterity. Magical times in baseball in those days, when there was still some nobility and respect for the game.
Thanks for sharing this!
These were the best days in my lifetime to be an Indians fan. If only we had won a series. We were so stacked.
It's amazing how much chaos some bad umping can cause.
THIS^^^^ Johnson should have been given the heave-ho by the ump milliseconds after the second pitch.
IKR? The second headhunt, with the fastball, should have seen Johnson tossed immediately even if Lofton was charging him.
Just watch most MLB games now😅
Randy was like, "Ok, you want to see what it looks like when I throw at you?"
I was thinking the same thing. He wants to complain when he came inside the first time let him know what it's like to be actually thrown at.
Pitchers like Johnson are cowards.
@@Nuschler22yeah, and if you two were in prison together you would be his girlfriend!
So he did it, twice
@@Nuschler22lmfao😂😂😂😂 u must not have been alive in the 90s or u wouldn't say such dumbass nonsense. Lol😂😂😂
Randy Johnson is the scariest pitcher of all time. You can tell Lofton didn’t want any
scariest because the catcher was protecting him. why didn't he let the batter flat him?
No Bob Gibson was scarier than Randy.
@@oloruncorey6745 Gibson was a special case. He had an objectively good reason (usually a respect issue) if he was displeased with you. And players knew that. They _knew_ they were in the wrong. That's a different kind of "scary" than you'd have for a pitcher who's just a hot-head . . .
Now you got me wanting to see the rest of it.
Thanks for sharing this!
The Unit was still crusty over Lofton scoring from 2nd base on a Johnson wild pitch to slam the door on the 95 ALCS
I like Randy Johnson, but this seemed a bit classless. If David Bell, who if I recall, wasn't exactly renown for his speed, can hit a stand up inside-the-parker on you, that's on you.
Johnson was intimidating Lofton because he was a big time stolen base threat with one out. Bartolo Colon was throwing well so they needed to be careful about run support. It had nothing to do with Bell. Just a lucky hit.
Mostly on Glenallen Hill, the left fielder
Yeah he threw at his head then lied about it
He didn't the first time, but he did the second time and should have been (more) immediately tossed
This Cleveland team was stacked.. the whole mid 1990's roster. Kenny Lofton, Marquis Grissom, Julio Franco, Carlos Baerga, Omar Vasquez, Sandy Alomar, Roberto Alomar, Albert Belle, Manny Ramirez, Matt Williams, Jim Thome, David Justice, Orel Hershiser... Insane.
Still can't believe how they never won a World Series.
When you see what happened to Kirby Puckett, how can any pitcher purposely throw at a batter's head? :(
I would have thrown the bat at Johnson after that second pitch
I'm taking it with me to avenge Ventura.
These baby ass pitchers...
Is it just me, or are the hats from this era just way better looking? Way more clean with bigger and more clear logos
Back when New Era Hats were made in the USA.. Materials and all.
Yeah, the MLB fitted hats in the 90s were very high quality, compared to the crap today with 100% synthetic materials.
I love these old-school games. Randy Johnson was a beast. He just didn't care...not one bit.
Yeah cuz he didn’t to bat. That’s called a pussy
Cleveland was electric with the Indians back in '95 - '98. They had a great lineup and the entire city was energized with having a great team after so many bad years.
God I miss those day's.
The announcer's comment was spot-on....he hustled out of the batter's box. Something you don't see these days, sadly.
You still see that today. 💀
OMG, the current Guardians do nothing but HUSTLE.
Ever heard of Jose Ramirez ?
You must not watch baseball anymore
@@TheMrSuge Fr. These boomers always make stuff up to hate on the current generation. 💀 don’t know why they hate the current generation but it seems they do.
@@TheMrSuge you mean indians
@@daveberry3853 Indians forever!
Lofton acting like he wanted to go to the mound... 🤣🤣🤣
He knew better.
True but Johnson was not a tough guy. 6'10" and 145 lbs.
hold me back, bruh, hold me back, he dont wan none of dis!!
Yeah, but he kept his bat.....
Lofton almost gets his head taken off 2x and gets thrown…..mk it mk sense
Because he started it, by bitching.
@@richardeast3328No, Johnson started it by being butthurt over the inside-the-park home run and retaliating.
Not sure why people defend him so much. Yeah, he was a great pitcher. He was also an asshole.
@@richardeast3328 But Johnson didn't start it? The bias here speaks volumes.
@@lefthandedbaker I wasn’t referring to Johnson. Watch it again and see who starts bitching first.
@@richardeast3328 *long sigh* read my comment again.
All the madness and bravado, no one wanted to trade punches with Johnson. Smart.
Randy Johnson definitely deserved to be ejected. The first pitch MAY have been a slider, but the 2nd pitch was definitely deliberately aimed at Lofton's head.
Johnson should’ve been ejected the second he threw that second heater at Kenny. Kenny should not have been tossed.
God forbid they toss Johnson
The RULE REQUIRES ejection of Johnson & fine. O.I.C.
@WERC-lawyer for sure, immediately after the second one, can't toss the star I guess 😁
@@cwalker4719 Lofton was a star.
@WERC-lawyer true, guess they're just hating on Cleveland
Things were different than. Randy Johnson was known for head hunting. You did not want to get hit for him.
Two badass teams
What a year to be a aseball fan. Great times🤙🏻
3 of my all time favorite players ejected in one inning.
Who was Seattle's center fielder? He should have been over in left field backing up the leftfielder -- who appeared to time his leap wrong.
1998? That was some scrub you never heard of, probably. Ken something...
@@Fred_LougeeKEN something a sweet swing but overweight and often lazy. Completely exposed when he went to Cincinnati
@@bnegs521 Minimal work ethic but still hit 600 HR and finished with just under .300 BA. Imagine if he had actually put hard work into his play.
A couple of years after his move to the Reds I was talking with some guy who had just moved here from southern Ohio. He regurgitated the party line about Junior destroying his knees on the Kingdome astroturf, I politely explained to him that someone tearing their hammie trying to score from first on a clean double in the first month of the season is the result of not staying in shape.
@Fred_Lougee THank you for posting that 👍
Randy should have played Freddy Krueger in the movies lol
Yeah, he was the Big Unit, and you had to admit, he could bring it. But still, that second pitch was a total dick move.
As Randy himself once said (regarding a slider), “Hey, I’m still working on some of this stuff!”
What a great era of MLB
Kenny Lofton was one of my favorite players as a kid, Randy Johnson is from my hometown 🤯
It’s hilarious how Randy acted like nothing was happening the whole time, even after being ejected.😂
You know when Hargrove is involved there’s going to be a delay 😅
“The Human Rain Delay”
@@pdobos bingo ! 😃
Randy Johnson was so respected benches being cleared and he just stands on the mound and nobody on the other team even goes near him lol
He was blocked out. Believe me, the Tribe would've fucked him up otherwise.
They knew they would have to hit against him again.
@BrianSmith-ok8xe lol yeah ok
I highly doubt he can fight. He is tall and skinny.
@@BrianSmith-ok8xethe tribe? lol
Johnson's the only one who should have been ejected.
Love these days When Baseball was entertaining
cleveland was an allstar team, Lofton/Alomar,/thome/
Cleveland no doubt had some awesome ballers (big Jim Thome fan here) but the M's also had their stars that year. Ken Griffey Jr, Edgar Martinez, A-Rod (pre-steroid), Jay Buhner, Big Unit. And of course LOOOOUUU! Not too shabby--until our horrible front office broke up what should have become a dynasty.
I’m Randy Johnson. I’m literally the biggest prima donna pitcher. You can’t score a run against me in a game where the entire objective is to score runs. How dare you.
Who the hell was Johnson kidding - those were both intentional because he got shown up. Throwing at batters is an essential part of the game, but there was no need to throw at him in that situation. Randy Johnson ALWAYS proved that he never, ever deserved the benefit of the doubt.
Damn, the year I graduated HS! Man these were much better days. Sure technology and all is great but America isn't even close to what it was back then. I don't even want to know what it will look like in 30 years. I don't even care about sports anymore, it's all political and what not anyhow.
Randy Johnson was a d bag for that. Shoulda been mad at his teammates for purposely messing up his era.
Didn’t know Lofton could break dance!
Well he’s black so it’s not that outside the realm of possibility 😂😂
Randy was ready to whoop some ass 😂😂
I am not a Cleveland baseball fan here but clearly when you throw a purpose pitch after someone hits a HR or an Inside the Park HR, benches should be warned and they were by the Umpiring Crew Chief and when it happened again, not only should Randy Johnson of the Mariners be ejected from the game but also Lou Pinella should of been ejected too, bottom line. Also, if any pitcher that gives up a HR to any hitter then he should take responsibility for his screw up and not throw at another hitter because that's your own damn fault!
Americans should really look at cricket some time. If your delivery goes in the vicinity of the head (known as a beamer) you get a warning. A second time and you are tossed. Saves a lot of trouble.
Gotta love Randy Johnson!
Love Randy, but he did deserve that ejection.
1:25 - Was that Jomboy's dad? 😂
Haha
Throwing at players is cowardly. Can't stand it.
I think hit by the pitch should be rewarded with 2 bases instead of 1. There should be more consequences to hitting someone. The batter shouldn't get the same as if he was intentionally walked
@@josephmorabito6992if the first wasn’t intentional, the second isn’t an unfair message.
The batter overreacted to the first one
I wouldn’t say it’s cowardly, it’s always been part of the game, but it can end careers.
@@mplslawnguy3389Nah it's totally a spineless move. Even in actual contact sports, it's highly frowned upon to deliberately try and injure your opponent. Baseball is the only sport where people are weirdly ok with someone throwing a potentially lethal projectile at someone's head just because they got their feelings hurt.
@@vct454 It’s baseball. It’s always existed, and it’s the oldest game in the US. If you’re going to headhunt, better be ready to defend yourself, which a lot of pitchers actually do. Sounds like you’re kind of soft and should stick to the WNBA or LPGA.