HOW to Drill into Porcelain Tile -- And WHY You Need This Setting!
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- HOW to Drill into Porcelain Tile -- And WHY You Need This Setting!
This video explains how to drill into porcelain, stone, or ceramic tile using a DeWalt 20V Cordless Hammer Drill. Porcelain Tile is one of the hardest building materials used in a home. Baked in the kiln at higher temperatures and for longer than ceramic tile, porcelain tile is very hard and dense. A regular drill will not penetrate the tile. This is why a hammer drill setting and masonry bit is needed to drill into or through porcelain tile.
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I should have read the comments before trying this. I now have a cracked tile where I wanted to place a mirror. Thanks, thanks a lot.
After reading more about this, the best drill bit for drilling through tiles is a diamond tipped bit and a little gig with suction cups that has a water sponge. Or just cool the tip off in some water every 15-20 seconds. Also, never EVER use hammer drill setting unless you want to destroy your tiles.
Yeah I saw that coming
Don't do this...
Yeah I was looking for some advice because it's taking a long time to go through my porcelain tile - and totally shocked to see this video recommending a hammer drill! Everything else I read says this is absolutely wrong and dangerous. A shame this author hasn't responded to these comments and taken this video down. So sorry they misled you and didn't seem to care either.
@@cpmaverick Maybe it's ok to use the bit, but not on hammer mode.
I drill through several layers of masking tape. Not only does it reduce chipping, the thick layer of tape helps stop the bit sliding.
I'm here as I have to drill through 9mm porcelain tiles in my own bathroom reno to attach fittings.
I have been out of the game thankfully, for some 13 odd years.
I used diamond hole saws for the large plumbing entry points.
As a second generation tiler, I'm 59 and my old man is 91, we never ever used impact on any tiles.
Fine for brick and concrete and you may get lucky but I would not risk it, full stop.
In my experience I would also advise masking tape to stop initial drill wander or apply firm pressure
on your mark and with the drill on slow, let it get a start in the surface to be drilled.
Coolant on hard surface is essential throughout the cutting process, not required on a glazed
biscuit back tile with a standard masonry drill bit.
Even in the mortar joint between brickwork I don't use impact, it is usually soft as shite, just
let the bit cut into it, without the aggression of the impact function.
Stainless screws would also be mandatory in my opinion.
A message for all you tiling/waterproofing hopefuls, your best work, in the interest of long term
reliability and pride in the job, will be the stuff nobody will see, hidden by all that pretty tiling.
Also, for any of you interested out there, if there was to be some rules for being a good tradie
Rule #1 would be, the first thing you get out of the truck/ute is a rubbish bucket, dustpan and brush
and they're the last thing you put back into it.
My 2 cents worth, if you are worthy of the title of a "true tradesman" or "tradesperson" as the case may be.
I just told a customer yesterday a good contractor is a clean contractor
Isaac. I think you do great work but I have to disagree with your approach with this one. This is a disaster waiting to happen and bad advice and I suggest you do a followup. There are two major issues here. 1) you never want to use hammer mode on any tile. Reason being is that tile is super brittle and you don't know how the installer attached them, the quality of mortar or quality of work they did. Any voids behind the tile, a bad mortar mix, usage of old mortar etc will cause the tile to crack or fall off from the vibration. 2) Usage of carbide for tile is wrong, Those bits have a point and this puts point pressure on a brittle surface further giving it the chance to crack. Also, some shower tiles are glass and this bit will crack the glass 100% of the time. Hammer drill + Carbide bit is for drilling concrete and brick. For tile, you always want to use a diamond tipped bit with no hammer action. You should treat all tile like natural stone like granite. Would you put a hammer drill to a granite countertop? I hope not.
@@TileCoach A hammerdrill with a carbide bit is too aggressive for finished tile work. You are vibrating the hell out of the surrounding tiles and causing the potential of the tile being drilled to crack. Try using a diamond tipped drill bit (Milwaukee sells some) and a thin piece of wood as a guide to begin the hole so the bit doesn't walk on you and see how smooth and effortless you get a hole in tile and glass. It cuts like butter and puts zero stress on the tiles.
I've always used hammer setting and never damaged or was concerned I might damage. What I do like to do is start off my holes while in variable speed setting. It's helps not to skip on slick surface. If I have 4 holes I get them all started then switch to hammer. Cool bit is the key and let the drill do the job. The more you fight it the more it fights back. So I like to switch from hole to hole. Run 5 seconds or so on 1 then switch to another hole and the surface will have cool down time while you remain productive. Cool the bit periodically with water or just a wet sponge. Also even if my goal is a 1/4 inch hole I like to start with a smaller hole 5/16 or 1/8. Not always but if it's a very hard tile it can prove helpful. Then once your thru bump up to the 1/4 and get it thru in a matter of seconds. I've seen people say to never use hammer mode and I could see that back in the day messing with soft 4x4 clay ceramics but it's a new day and the tile going up these days is very hard. If I didn't have a hammer drill to use I would dread the process.
@@andrewknapp3796 I think you are missing my point. I'm not saying it wouldn't work because obviously it does. What I'm trying to say is that there's a better way of doing it. Why put the extra stress and vibration on the tile when you can cut through it using a diamond tip bit. It's like saying you can cut through tile using a carbide tipped circular saw blade. Can you? maybe, I've never tried but the correct blade is a diamond blade. Get my point?
@@seephor I appreciate your comment because I've consulted multiple resources to try to find the right bit to use to install a shower curtain rod. The house is 90 years old, and I just purchased it a month ago, so have no idea if the tile in the bathroom is porcelain or ceramic or what lies behind the wall.
Agree 100%
Good tips. Here are a few more. I center a washer with a hole the same size of the bit over the drill spot and secure it with a big X of masking tape. This keeps the drill bit from wandering until it has cut a groove. I used to buy Milwaukee 3/16" diamond bits at about $15 each... They last for about 8-9 holes in thick porcelain before the coating is gone. That is with water cooling. The cheap Chinese hollow core bits cost about $14 for a 20 pack and each bit can do about 3-4 holes. A much better value and they cut very well.
First of all, that's not Porcelain. Second, never use hammer drill on porcelain unless you want to gamble with cracks and chips.
I agree with you 100 % No hammer on "any" tile period Chips for sure
Wow! I just noticed that! Looks like normal ceramic. Have NEVER used hammer. Ceramic tiles are so easy to drill through anyway.
This guy is a Proffessional Hack! Run!!!
In every video he exposes his true identity as a runaway helper.
The speed that drill went through means it's not a porcelain tile, just a soft wall tile.
The only tile guy worth watching on UA-cam! Isaac Ostram Legend
There are a number of comments on here in regards to his approach in this video. I just used his exact setup for a porcelain tile shower. As a DIY homeowner, I have run into nearly every pitfall working this shower and thought based on the comments, Isaac might be leading me astray. I put 15 holes into a test piece without cracking the tile. Impatience is the enemy, not his approach.
I agree with those below you should NEVER use the hammer setting on any tile.
i've never had a problem with it. also drills holes in the tile in about a third of the time, if not better.
We use 1/4" diamond hole saw bits at low speed with water in a spray bottle constantly wetting the area. Carbide bits and hammer drill makes A LOT of noise and the bits only cut a few holes before they burn up.
Maybe the porcelain is different in my country, but this is one major problem in my neck of the woods.
To anyone doing this in Portugal, please don't. Use a new bit and go slow, but never the hammer.
Maybe the fact that they have wood backing make it safer because it absorves vibrations or something.
Another thing I do is to cover the place I’m going to drill with tape. It seems to reduce chipping that can happen when drilling through tile.
Not sure why all these no hammerdrill comments and the wrong bit. Ive been using an even bigger hammer drill and same carbide bits for ages on porcelain. All those people stating you need a diamond bit must not drill but one or two holes per month. In a typical bath remodel its more like 15-20 different holes by the time youve done the grab bar/ the Frameless shower door/the towell bars and so on. One thing I do differently though is use much lower rpms combined with steady pressure but not so much that your actually pushing it.Thats where the larger drill comes in. Check out the Bosch Bulldog its a must have for tile guys especially if you do tile tear out as you can set it to just hammer without rotation and add the chisel bit youve got a mini jackhammer to make quick work of your tough tile removals. Ive drilled 40 holes with one of those bits one right after another and keeping the rpms down the bit still looked brand new
Bro, you never use hammer setting to drill a tile. And that bit is for ceramic not the porcelan tile. All wrong what you teaching here. You should get a diamond drill bit, they cost around 15$.
Right! Wth
I install commercial toilet partitions, grab bars, tp dispensers, etc...I've drilled through every type of tile, but one thing is for sure...I never use a mason bit and a hammer drill, never
Nice shower, I like the silicone idea I had never thought of doing that before! Good job
if you don't know where the stud is located behind the tile, what kind of anchor should be used?
That style bit cuts better at a lower rpm. Like you said, the heat is the enemy.
I prefer diamond hole saws for drilling into tile.
Excellent video. Very clearly explained with pertinent details. I have tried the hammer methode with masonry drill and it works great. Did 8 holes easily without cracking the tiles. Some people should try it before making negative comments.
I've been using those dart like bits from Bosch for years on all kind of tiles
Using an impact like that is a great way to snap that tile.
I drilled 1/4" holes in porcelain tile using a $20 electric drill from Harbor Freight and some generic diamond hole bits from amazon...took about 15 seconds for each hole.
Do Not use hammer drill action it will crack the tile use A proper tile drill bit without hammer action
Never had a problem. Hard soft or glass.
If your tile job isn't shit it will not crack :)
i agree with sam, this drilling machine seems to punch less hard in hammer mode than others usually do.. I think everyone who is used to cut tiles knows how easy they crack. Using a regular drill-hammer would not be very smart..
i've never had an issue.
Excellent video brilliantly edited and I must thank you as I would never of thought of using a Hammer drill on porcelain tiles and it worked on some thick porcelain floor tiles and thick porcelain wall tiles thank you😎👍
Worked brilliantly, thanks 👍
Yes highly recommend cooling a bit...
Or use a tile bit... also I would suggest using an impact on tiles. Amateurs can easily crack a tile with an impact.
This type of bit will drill only a very limited number of holes in porcelain before burning up. Also, the hole in demonstration is small. Any larger hole with hammer function will risk damage to tile. Bite the bullet and spend the money for a quality diamond hole saw bit and get around thirty holes per bit. Professionals don't use carbide on hard tile especially with a hammer drill.
Thanks for the video, I just drilled 7 holes in 3/8" thick porcelain, 12x24" tiles on a shower. It worked well, I drilled 1/8" holes first and then finished off with the 1/4" hole, I used a spray bottle and squirted the bit every 2-3 seconds. The bits were not hot at all doing it this way. I used the Milwaukee fast drilling, long life hammer drill bits. It took me 14 minutes to drill the first hole and then I drilled 6 more in 44 minutes. I have at least 11 more to drill for a grab bar and the OVE sliding glass doors.
I took the risk and it worked :) saved some money! thanks
couldn't agree more with all of this, I had to learn all this by trial and error
I'm afraid I have to agree. If this really is porcelain then A. Don't hammer drill because you could crack the tile and B. Use diamond drill bits. You see him sliding the bit around at the start? That's the fastest way to scratch your tiles
Lol my wife is Chinese. As i was watching your vid for tips, she said “no good, another video better”.
So i asked her “ok show me”.
She said “i dont know.. but this one not good”..
So apparently the number 4 is bad luck.. and turns out your video is 4:44 long lol
So i’m about to prove her wrong !
Fingers crossed ! 😁
I find once the drill bit changes colour from overheating - it is ruined.
I use heaps of water from the very start to avoid this issue.
That's absolutely NOT how an impact driver works. With an impact driver the impact force is applied perpendicular to the bit; this is what gives the higher torque. Imagine you're using a wrench to help turn the bit, and you're hitting the wrench with a hammer to help turn it - that's how an impact driver works. Also, using hammer mode on porcelain tile is asking for trouble.
Well he did use a hammer drill THEN a impact drill. Obviously they're different
Best and fastest way through porcelain is to drill just past the glaze and into the porcelain. (About 20-25% through the tile) Then take a punch and hammer and hit it hard enough to go the rest of the way through. First time you do it, your scared you’ll break the tile, but that’s the way I’ve been doing it for the last 16 plus years. Works great! An old plumber taught me this trick after I burned up four new bits on 2 holes and still had several to go. This way is easier on buts because you don’t have it in the porcelain long enough to heat up to extremes.
Great video, thank you for such a great detailed explanation
Also don’t drive the chuck to tighten the bit. It wears down the chuck blades. Always Hand tighten
I have never drilled porcelain but do question reaming out the hole while drilling. The TileCoach was making an arc with the drill which increases the size of the hole. If you want a bigger hole, use a bigger bit.
it goes quicker moving the drill around like that.
I have that exact impact driver and hammer drill the 887. Did you buy them as a kit? That's how I got them 2 years ago.
Hey folks. Seeing is believing. This is my first time attempting to drill 3/16 holes into “real” porcelain. I used Ryobi D620H hammer drill on hammer setting + Kobalt 3/16 double bladed carbide bit model DTC-30006 to drill 8 holes in Satori polished Porcelain tile in 30 minutes. Paused briefly after 10 seconds. Bit did not overheat. I used tape to prevent bit from dancing. It was like magic.
I like using the hammer drill setting swell.Alot of guys say don't use that settings find it helps a lot!..Another bit on the market by Speedy bit, it has a fine point and drills very well, better than these type of bits.
Have you tried the glass bits from Bosch? I use them and while slow and pretty much 1 time use bits, I find starting with a 1/16" bit and increasing diameters until reaching the desired hole size works well. I prefer this because you can drill effectively without using hammer mode. Thanks for demonstrating that hammer mode didn't crack or chip the tile, but it still makes me nervous as I'm a plumber and repairing tile isn't something I'm qualified to do.
use a diamond/tile bit, and take your time. Porcelain is hard shit. i usually drill for about 4-5 seconds, that dip the bit in water. repeat until you're all done.
I watch most of your tiling vids and I'm sorry but for this one inl totally disagree using hammer drill when drilling into porcelain tile even if it's ceramic.
Diamond drill bit with water are the most effective and safest way to drill over porcelain, that's just my own opinion, we install shower enclosure almost every week and we never use your method of drilling.
NEVER use hammer drill setting and NEVER use the highest speed. NEVER push too hard on either one. Get a glass and tile bit for ceramic tiles and a diamond saw bit for porcelain. Glass and tile bits have a sharp point and are easy to start the hole without wandering. If you are struggling to get through the tile with this bit, odds are you are dealing with porcelain. Stop and go get the diamond saw bit. Diamond saw bits have a strange head and the best way to get a hole started without wandering is to angle the drill down, like you are grinding with it until a hole has started enough to gradually bring the drill up straight. Nice and easy pressure, let the bit do the work. When you get through the tile, you'll know it. Take a screw in your hand, feed it through and push, it'll feel softer. NEVER use an impact to set your screw. Uses a jacketed driver for your screw to keep you from slipping off screw head and cracking tile with it. Yes the bits are expensive. Way more than rotary percussion bits or masonry bits but this guys advice is going to get you cracked tiles for sure.
I always have it on hammer when I'm drilling the wife, but never on tile.
the common silicone is OK ?
Hammer setting tends to crack the tile whether porcelain or ceramic. Prefer diamond or carbide tip though more expensive. Cheaper than having the tile guy come back.
Think I agree with another commenter wherein he points out that you've got the skills built up over many years as a pro to do it this way. For instance, in the beginning even you have to work hard to hold the drill bit in the right place on the mark while the bit dances around some. Someone with less experience than you is probably not going to have much success trying to hold the drill so steady. I am also concerned that you let so much heat build up during the drilling process, and that you don't wear a face mask or hearing protection. My tinnitus is proof to me that I should have worn hearing protection when I was young like you, using my chain saw and lawn tractor. I've got another method that my tile contractor taught me, using a board in the beginning to guide the bit while a circle is scored in the surface. Then you can take the board away and the scored circle holds the bit in place. I also use a water bottle throughout the drilling process to cool things down. I also use a face mask for all that dust you're showing is produced - not good to breather any of that in. I didn't use the hammer setting on my drill - like others have said I'd be worried about cracking the tile. My suggestions are at: ua-cam.com/video/3imxHkjcR1s/v-deo.html
There are all kinds of diamond drill bits for this job, and you don't need a hammer drill.
I bet you feel satisfied, when you have done a good job, that's what everyone should aim for. :)
Hi Isaac, Is it true that walk in showers are required to have hand rail or some kind of safety rail? like is it required by code?
Hey all!
Not my wheelhouse but...
...how is water prevented from getting behind the wall mount?
Rubber backing? (Pardon my naiveté.)
-100
Isaac - really like your design. Can you tell me what your using for a finish tile on the outside edge of the niche? and is that thinsetted on the wall or the bottom (and top) of the interior of the niche?
🤣🤣😂 What a cowboy🤠🤠🤠
Definitely don't use a masonry bit on hammer.You may get lucky and get away with it.
What you need is a diamond tipped self sharpening dry drill bit.
Try a rotary SDS, like the 12v Milwaukee for drilling. You will love it. That is beautiful shower.
Before start my project I have a lot nervous just I finish the shower now I need install the door and I make 8 hole on porcelain whit 1/4 Bauer diamond hole saw less of 10 dollars on harbor freight whit no problem. 100% recommended 👌. Don't use hammer drill on porcelain
1 wrong drill bit ... is for masonry not ceramic, never use hammer mode it can crack title, 3 use coolant and lubricant ... lol
never thought of filling drill holes with silicone. does this really provide enough grip to keep the screws in place over time?
ok.. sorry. i missed the part where you mention the wood backing. thought it was a concrete wall and you used silicone instead of screw anchors..
Not a good video. Don’t do this.
I never use hammer drill I don't care if it takes 5 min to drill one hole slow an dip it in water, I always silicone as well good looking shower
would not have used that bit, diamond bit the way to go
Yes, I'm afraid I have to disagree with you also. Porcelain tiles should not be drilled into with a hammer drill. A diamond drill bit on slow speed with lots of water for both cooling the bit and flushing the hole. A small squeeze bottle with a pointed end works great. Of course that's just my opinion, but in the end it's the safest bet.
I used spray water while I am drilling.
I use the diamond hole saw with a guide and a plant sprayer Porcelain tile is not fun to drill and burns through a lot of consumables
Dude, why didn't you use a Tile Punch first? More accuracy, and less risk of walking. Also you should have dipped that bit in water 3 or 4 times. You do amazing work, but honestly a typical hammer drill bit is best used just for starting the hole, after a punch first, then switch to to a circular hole in the center type bit . Much safer. And don't skimp on the water dipping. Drill for 30 seconds, dip in water, repeat. Heat causes expansion in the tile, it doesn't just harm the bit.
method is ok, but use a water bottle with a very small hole in the cap for constant bit lubing
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This is weird. Every other video I've watched on drilling porcelain says use a diamond tipped bit, and never use the hammer setting 🤔
You're not supposed to put water on hot carbide. It can shatter.
I'm having an argument with my boss right now that hammer drills are your best friend with porcelain tile I'm sending this video to him
Your boss is right. The video is wrong.
how much a bathroom like this will cost by a installer like you?
didn't realise you could drill porcelain with concrete bit on hammer, iv been using the marcrist dry diamond bits, there pricy, don't last long and there not fast at drilling especially small 6mm holes, going to give the hammer method a try, what's the worst that could happen
besides all the obvious problems with this video that a lot of people pointed out, there is one that's not so obvious. Never cool carbide with water. it's bound to crack then brake into the hole. cool it with air, (compressor) or get two or three drills and change the out the hot one.
That is an amazing shower! Great job man.
I’d fill those hole’s full of GE 100% Silicone for sure! Cool shower!
I gave up on those type of hammer drills 20 years ago and bought hilti drills. The hammer action on a hilti is like a jack hammer. I use these to shatter tile for removal. Wise not to use a hilti hammer drill
For the first time in my life I see someone who as planned to put wood backing on the back for screwing fixtures. Most of the peoples are trying to make me believe that wall plugs are fine... But there not. They don't hold for long time
A lot of glass installers rely on plugs as they are not always guaranteed a stud when they hang a shower door or door panel. I've seen shower doors 26x72 hung on a wall plugs and have been fine over the years from constant swinging.
Use what ya got. I prefer diamond hole saws. I just can’t believe people still use hammer drills. SDS drills are where it’s at.
Them screws need to be stainless mate !!
That flex volt battery only puts out 20v on that drill not 60v
That's not a porcelain tile
Crazy. Do not take any notice of this video
Please send me the set of the DeWalt drills should I pay credit card or cami do PayPal...?
I would have put a dab of silicone on the screw caps.
Doesn't look like a porcelain tile, they are normally 8.5 mm thick and amazingly hard, you need a diamond bit with water and NOT on hammer
Hammer on tiles never. Who showed you this.
NEVER use hammer action on porcelain tile. It can crack the tile and knock them loose. Diamond bit, slow speed, water cooling is the way to go.
60 amp battery???? mate you arnt even wetting your bit - rookie of the year
This is misleading, guys please do not do this when drilling into porcelain polished tiles.
Please Don't mess people up. YOU can not use those bits on Porcelain. And you can't use a hammer drill on Porcelain.
Hammer mode I don’t thinks so. Why do you think you need hammer mode ? Makes zero sense you’re the only one who seems to think so
This is ceramic tile not porcelain tiles
Those hammer bits are for concrete and block, not porcelain tile. He’s drilling into ceramic which is a little more forgiving, and getting lucky with the hammer action, but I don’t recommend this method.
I disagree that you should use a hammer drill with porcelain tile
If I were you I would remove this video. You should use a diamond-tip drill bit. Did you put silicone in the hole you drilled? SMH
And yet every single expert tells you to never use the hammer setting…
Hammer? You’re joking, right?