Suppose I have a fear of ghost in dark-- 1. I sleep on bed 2. Thought of fear comes with all its past memories. 3. Brain has been conditioned not to give attention to fear. Mind tries to cover with blanket( It tries to escape) 4. Try to meet the fear without the past. Meet it with fresh energy. Meet it without observer. 5. Thought tries to divide into 'me' and 'fear'. But at that moment without past memories, 'me' and 'fear' are one. 6. There is either Fear or Inattention. 7. There is a witness who watches the situation as if it is a new movie trailer pouring entire attention. 8. At that moment, time ends...thought ends...attention acts like fire...it burns the fear. 9. Logically it should happen like this.
I suggest to change 6. and 7. As per below: 6. Fear is in attention. It is not an either or situation. Both are one. 7. There is no witness watching the situation apart from itself. Then there is attention in which there is no duality no choice, no movement of time, thought or the me center. No fear but just the fact of what is and the appropriate action took place. The end.
In this same vein, my practice has basically become this: give as much attention, immediately, to the sensation of emotions (fear being the main one we feel, consistently). Just give attention to the sensation (not the "this emotion is called fear and so what I need to do is figure out why I'm afraid and regress and regress" - no). Just feel the clench, or the buzz, or the tingle. Bring your mind back and back whenever it strays, but you'll realize that every thought brings some sort of sensation in your body. Keep your mind on the sensations of these as you go about your daily life. Things start to change.
Same here too!! All day l listen him and his teachings is so addictive l can't understand life deeply by any other teachings like him..he is friend in need❤️
He is with you here and now with all his wisdom through his recorded lectures by Krishnamurthy foundation. It was his only purpose to start the foundation.
Exactly my feelings..! I discovered him few days back on the net.. I am binge listening to his teachings now. What a great soul! No frills, down-to-earth, highly spiritual and deep person! Erudite is apt word to describe him!
It's true that pure awareness doesn't try to do anything. It has no intention of controlling, suppressing any kind of unpleasant emotion. Awareness simply is. Krishnamurti's point seems to be that the "controller" is part of the problem; it's just a reactive state, another link in the egoic chain. Yes, one can see that the "controller" or "suppressor" is just another guise of the "me".
Yes, you are right, however this means to live in the present which can hardly be done. The best way is to break your karmic chain, because this is part of your bad karma and you get dhuka which is suffering, cause you tend to avoid it. So you dont' have to avoid it or trying tricks on your mind cause those won't solve the problem, but rather challenge it by face it.
@@george1449 can you elaborate on what the karmic chain is and how to break it? Also, topics like these in the video make me inclined to believe that there is no free will since there really isn’t an agent or a controller - just a consciousness that can be aware.
One sees the observer and dies again after knowing the fact that the observer is the observed,and one again goes on looking without observer. One looks through oneself but has no words to identify it. Because he has no choice than the awareness and the watchfulness.
Listening to Krishnamurti is a great joy and always brings clarity and peace. What grace to have lived in a time where this man can be heard, seen and venerated.
@@Chimpance7 He always "stresses" that he is no different from the people around/in front of him. They are having a conversation, exchanging ideas to clear the mind and expand for mutual benefit. Symbiosis. I can imagine (which I just did) walking with him in a park for an hour without speaking a word to each other and then say goodbye and leave knowing I have learned a lot. I'm humbled and grateful that we have a Soul like his in our midst. And yes, he would say: "I am not your Guru." Thank you for your comment. Namaste
@@Aussie1964 At his death K was asked how many of his followers had realized the teaching. He first said one, and shortly thereafter changed the reply to none.
Timeless speech. I wish people watch it all over again until they grasp what he is talking about. The world would be a different place if many of us lived from that place of understanding. And that is what he wanted.
How can you say that a person who has no fear wont ever be in situations that perpetuate fear. Makes no sense. I rarely have fear until situations arise
@@johnfredericks9907 maybe he means excessive fear of something that is beyond his ability or understanding such as life after death, etc. it could bothering a person mind and create such a toxic essence
right now (well all my life tbh) I am experiencing utter dread and fear when I'm thinking about approaching women I like. Cuz of my lack of self-esteem, no belief in myself, lack of interesting life (I am a painter who just paints all the time) and basically no stories to tell and amuse women. Which sounds silly now that I have typed that out. I am kinda cute, but feel basically useless when it comes to hanging out with women. I hate that shit like nothing else. What shall I do?
@@Hejirah start talking to people regularly and learn about interactions by observing others and watch romantic movies. You are all thought and no experience. Your experience is what made you a painter. Your experience will make you, overthinking is stopping your experience from happening because you only want the safe thing to happen. Go approach someone and do the thinking after you’re done not before
I´m 55 now. I lost the chance to know some of my great heroes, because I was a teenager when they were alive, but at that time, I didn´t knew about them. I just discovered Krishnamurti teachings, some 3 years ago.
It seems that way but this comes not from thinking but the innate timeless intelligence of life itself beyond thought. This sentence won't make sense until you allow the dissolution of the compulsive thinking.
Krishnamurti says the big moment is realizing there is only the experience of sensation, but no one to experience it. I've found similar 'progress' by continually bringing my mind back to sensation, whether it's the pang of hunger, the clench of anxiety, or the flush of embarrassment. Just try to feel them - don't resist them. Feel them before you even name them for the emotion that they represent. Just relax INTO it - that's feeling it - over and over and over. And because your brain can't think in words when it's focusing on sensation, you quiet the thinking mind. There is always sensation in your body which means you can do this all the time while doing other things (sure, they'll pull your attention away for a moment, but bring it back, again and again) - and then you start to flow. I figured it out for singing - I was way too clenched inside. But now it's my moment-to-moment practice. I'm doing it right now.
Mad to think that he was giving this speech in 1982. I was born in 1981 and to think how this is relevant to me now at the age of 41. Wish I'd listened to him earlier in my life . Better late than never . If only he'd known that his speeches would still be listened to years later ! .
I think one has to reach the age of 40 for them to realize what they have not understood and need answers for. I have the same realization and found Jiddu.
The decision to make these recordings was truly a marvelous thing; the content of these seminars have, will likely always be, of the highest importance to all that have and will live; of the greatest import to we who are so limited to/in the territory, yet capable of infinite conceptions in our map making....
I highly simphatiz with those who have never had from him, your perceptions of the world and things changes for ever, example when you remove the past which does not exist in reality and the future which is actualy a projection of the past of which does not exist in the first place, your place and time ceases to exist also. Then you realized that you are the observer of everything that you experience in reality, the "me" of you is an illusion; actions and reactions that the "me" of you experienced illudionarilly apears to come from the "me". But for you to see that may require many years of meditations. Wonderfully!!!
Why many years ? Time itself is a subjective concept, no ? Where does this "It will take time" come from ? Is it the fear that it might be too soon to realize something ? Is it the idea that realizing is something too big to realize in an instant ? :)
Prison is a business too, so they wouldn’t teach certain things there same as they wouldn’t teach in schools. These institutions aren’t to create free minds. If prisons were meant to reform everyone would come out better people, don’t get me wrong some do but that’s on their own free will not the system’s doing.
They put people in prison to make them suffer. People who made this law did it out of fear and sometimes give it a name like "correctional institute" or something like that, but prisons are fear-based; made out of fear and to create fear. I do not say I disagree with you and I do not say I agree with you. If you get involved with Krishnamurti's words you might agree that we have to go to the root. But who has time...? Time to think. Time and thought are the root of fear. You can put money into the equation, but that's an illusion because it will lead you back to the root. Does anybody have a link to the Saturday dialogue he's referring to in this video? I kindly thank you in advance.
As a man was seeking Truth, he saw mountain as mountain, waters as waters ( I-see-mountain, I -heard, I named, classified,I divided, I criticized-this is such a hard to climb mountain). After he saw fleeting Truth, he saw no mountain as mountain, no waters as waters (I am mountain or there's no mountain). But after rested in absolute Truth, he still sees mountain and waters but the Observer is Observed, no more "I" in this phenomenal, relative existence. The ego, or the lack of it, moves in relation in this beautiful, totality of human consciousness. Thanks K and friends.
The observer is observed...exacly! It is such a deep experience when you distance yourself from the body - mind and see how it responds without attaching to the emotion/thought
@@sachinranaa8795 it is not the knowledge that helps but the experience of the words. If you understand that you are experience depression doesnt bother you. It is kind of funny but it cant be thought or transfered, it has to be experienced. Suffering and depression is only resistance to what is.
they couldnt understand how they could get rid of fear, which i also couldnt untin the very end when he clearly explained what to do to get rid of it. I will give it a try
I just got it and I’m both in awe and pissing myself. Also slipping in between getting it and pretending that I don’t. Exercising my ability to understand. Wow.
It's truly hard to really experience the thoughts...he is right, most of u just listened superficially. I'm so happy, even though he's gone, to be able to hear his voice and practice thinking property.
I understand it fully sir, what a man he was, he put all his energy to make us understand that just look at the things without holding on to your memory about the things. That wife example is just awesome. I look at my wife through my memories about her and the same is true in case of fear, anger, etc. Just look at your wife without any past memories of her.
But how exactly ? Our brain doesn't forget. We remember things. We remember the experiences. We remember how that person was. With the ability of consciousness and remembrance, how can we practically not look at things or any person from a completely fresh lens every other time ?
@@blockbyblock4078 If you are truly mindful of the present moment, then there are no thoughts of who you are, who you were or that you know someone. I mean, of course you know someone and have memories about them, but in that exact present moment, if you are mindful you are not your personality and your past, nor that person have the past. You pay attention, you become attention, you observe. Nothing more. It takes practice, but you really can look at things without using your memories and knowledge to name them and think "this is this and that". Even "I am" is just a big bag of thoughts and experiences you had. This is how I see it. Still, I struggle to keep that clear attention for long periods of time.
@@illwind9178 I just listened to this talk for the first time. I am having and always have had problems with my fear and anxiety. I need to listen again and again until it really sinks in. Yet, I finally heard him say, when you look at fear without any judgements or past thoughts etc, the fear or the feeling of the fear rather, will dissipate. But if I and the fear are one, won't the "I" dissipate or simply, dissipation occurs, and then what? Or maybe I am going into this too much? Do I understand correctly when I see it and thus become it. There is nothing to do perhaps, merely that moment of "getting the truth" and the rest will follow.
Isn't it funny that he didn't believe in God, he called it childish behavior. A savior made up by our own minds, the good part in us, supposed to be good and the bad we ignore and blame a Satan entity.
It is so plain and simple and no one understands what he is really talking about. He tries to penetrate in all kinds of ways. What patience and what energy he puts into people. He tells it again and again in all kinds of ways. That poor soul really has a calling to convey his knowledge. Super respect for him. God be with you rest in peace.💓🙏
Oh what a wonderful man ,wish his teaching are spread across the globe in different schools as basics , rest all education without this core life knowledge is utter waste,what good is it to understand maths and sciences without knowledge of own self whose is always in turbulence with uncertainties of life
Fear of not being understood which means fear of wasting energy on both sides of the interaction. Fear consumes energy. Lets keep fear as a friend. It will keep us alive but also lets observe it and try to let it go when it is not serving us. Intelligent fear management by means of observation/attention and letting go.
Just listen and know. This is true meditation to be just be. Jk is great living mystic. People are so asleep, he is trying to express that which can't be said, but only observed experiencing. Great sir i love you. Swapnil
It is a wonderful environment to “stage” a lecture like this in. Nature sounds, trees and vines and light and shadows augment his wisdom. I also notice the contrast between his human face and body and the forms of nature around him looking undefined, faceless, not bound up.. Being human has certain joys and wisdom but nature appears at ease, no need to lecture about anything.
krishnamurti's teachings are SO, SO Profund!! The world, schools and everysingle aspect of this world needs to understand this!! This is MEDICINE, MEDICINE for the MIND, SPIRIT or Consciousness!!! Thank you Universe for allowing me to continuing finding the TRUTH, finding YOU!!
Amazing razor sharp mind. Alertness, non-judgemental observance, live in present moment, staying away from duality and so on are what K asks the listener to experience. Theology of the highest order. The world of humans owe him a debt.
Deep. "thought has divided itself as me and the fear"🤯🤯🕯️☯️ Like we hold on to the ideas or perceptions of what once was and to not bring it into the now. Just to see as it is in the moment. Yes enlightened from previous yet from those you can go deeper to see it was fear and not the situation and to observe the current from a more empathetic to express way to see it for what it is and not the surface level of it. So much. Omfg Love 💕💕💕💕💕💕. It's like the picking and choosing of what we think based off the past or our own inner sight yet to see all comes down to fear yet it can be seen for what it is and to realize it's really all made up yet meant to to be aware so one sees it for the illusion it is.
What if one day you wake up and you don't like the look of your wife? Does that mean one should forget the past and move on? Or does one work with the past and the present, to optimise outcomes for the future?
yes and no :) When you flow, you get filled with energy you didn't know you had. Conversely, it's the wrangling with ideas (the audience trying to put JK's words into contexts that they understand) that wears us out, and not wrongly. Thought wears us out.
It's always great to listen to him. So many ways he explained the same thing. I feel his frustration too, he wanted us to grasp the essence in a fraction of second. But very very few are blessed with that kind of sharp intelligence.
I was fortunate while growing up listening to Krishna and Rev Ike in my household. These 2 and others gave me very early on fundamental and foundational principles that have served me well in present day and in real time. That which you learn to face and embrace soon becomes erased. When you get to the root of it you learn your core while allowing yourself to no longer care, freeing you from "fear ". You now can give a deaf ear to fear.
I am listening to him for 3-4 days. I can see that he is trying very hard to tell us the truth. But somehow i feel that i remain a little short every time in understanding it completely. I respect him for his perseverance. I wish i could have met him.
see the amount of effort he is putting to explain each and every thing so deeply . I am surprised this level of thinking existed way before . He was a legend and will remain a legend to in our hearts . Love u sir .
This teaching was quite clear for me this time around. I find it beneficial to stop and go into what is being said part by part. This was very helpful.
Amazing video . Such clarity on thoughts . Mind fears everything . Mind's biggest fear is heart . It never allows heart to be the master . Even though heart is the original master . It's the same in our day to day life where the boss or senior won't allow juniors to surpass him even though he/she knows that someone else is more capable.
@Matthew yes thank you. I heard this before, but don't have enough awareness of it. Don't understand. What do you think the other 1/4 of worlds problems is caused by? I think is power & greed.
@Matthew I agree. I prefer to call it "unconsciousness", we've all been there, done & said things we regret,then looking back, are shocked by our behaviour or thoughts, realizing we were unconscious
@Matthew yes but that doesn't describe guilt. Guilt is not related to danger or perceiving danger. It's more to do with our having done or thinking we've done something wrong & beating ourselves up about it or feeling very bad about it. It's to do with our conscience.
I wish we all had the chance to meet him in person and an opportunity to discuss more about our conditions. A true master who tries to make one understand oneself.
*IT´S A TIME MACHINE - We can see the past, we can live the past. When I watch these J.K. videos, with all these utterly live and vibrant emotions, and these trees and green leaves moving behind him, on my 55 inch TV, I´m transported to that time, on an imersive experience, it´s like a time travel listening him for the first time. I don´t know what he will say, I don´t know what leaves would move, so, it´s happening on the present, on my present, not in the past. May be past for other people who have already seen, but for those who never saw, it´s like being there. Even J.K. couldn´t know that his work, his mind, his teachings would be preserved in such a big way and detail. If he was here with me watching to what I am watching, he would be amazed by what technology from this future have achieved. And I think that in the future from now, scientists will be able to put us on a 3D space, where we can really be transported to the video, enhancing our experience of "being there". Future generations will eventually talk to J.K. in real time and get answers from him, answers that have been recorded and another ones which are formulated based on a base of his knowledge. People will be able to see J.K in their room alive in 3D speaking and talking to them all day long. J.K will eventually live in little devices like small computers ( smartphones of the day ) where they could consult him at any time and make infinite questions.*
The best explain that about fear and time and observer. While I have been struggle with these three topics for a long time, but now I feel that I got something, which is all about time. By seeing this my mind is not very much chattering or being disturbed by numerous thoughts. a fresh mind that starts to observe in a gloomy dark dusk.
Fear is what? An alert of danger or potential danger. Danger of what? Loss. Loss of life, an arm , a healthy state, a material thing, a person you've become attached to, a job, your fame, your mind, etc. Your attachment to the world is the cause of all fear.
ok i finally got it in the end, u release fear when u donnt think about it or analize it but when u just observe it, look at it and think of nothing, just watch it with your mind's eye
Time and thought are the roots of fear. Change the wiring in our brains by having presence. The speaker tried very hard to explain it to us but it is a very difficult subject.
had to write down excerpts of his speech which spoke out to me and I have to sit on them. think about it. had to constantly rewind and pause and then right at the end, it was like glue. everything pieced together.
It is so pity that Krishnamurti was not able to teach Vipassana meditation. It's exactly what he is talking about but at the experiential level. Not just talking about it. Fear is the reaction for sensations created by thoughts, and this reaction is unconscious.. Until you learn to be conscious of this phenomenon and be liberated from fear and all kinds of suffering
Indeed. The thought is the cause of fear. The reaction to it comes from the body, for that reason, we must focus on the reaction, wich is the real fear, without criticizing it, and then the fear will end. The thought that "causes" the fear is the memory, it is not the fear itself, it's merely an abstract view of fear, for that reason any set of thoughts can cause the same reaction so trying to block the thought will merely create another one, but the response will be the same.
I can't help but see parallels with physical reality and quantum physics. It's all so fundamentally unintuitive what he says. Yet, it does have some validity in science, and for the practicing soul that is trying to train ones mind. To domesticate the wild animal that is the human psyche, it all rings very true. Try what he says, which echos the wisdom of so many of our spiritual sciences, and I think we will see, it leads to an objectivity that is empowering.
15:03 Time & thought is the root of fear. 17:21 Don’t pursue an abstraction of this idea, instead know the truth of it. 20:03 As the observer you are not it, in it. ( Fear, or any other emotion. ) 27:15 Conflict of Duality, can it end ? 28:55 ‘Me-less observer’ 31:02 The knowledge is the past - causes a physiologic division in the present. 32:30 Remembrance of fear does this too. 35:28 Give total attention to fear ( looking at it ) - it is known now ( not remembered as past knowledge ) then fear of it is gone.
I think J Krishnamurti is Einstein of philosophy and psychology
We are fortunate to have these recordings even if he is not here❤
Every query, same solution:
Look within in silence.
Suppose I have a fear of ghost in dark--
1. I sleep on bed
2. Thought of fear comes with all its past memories.
3. Brain has been conditioned not to give attention to fear. Mind tries to cover with blanket( It tries to escape)
4. Try to meet the fear without the past. Meet it with fresh energy. Meet it without observer.
5. Thought tries to divide into 'me' and 'fear'. But at that moment without past memories, 'me' and 'fear' are one.
6. There is either Fear or Inattention.
7. There is a witness who watches the situation as if it is a new movie trailer pouring entire attention.
8. At that moment, time ends...thought ends...attention acts like fire...it burns the fear.
9. Logically it should happen like this.
Wonderful bro...
Beautiful
I suggest to change 6. and 7. As per below:
6. Fear is in attention. It is not an either or situation. Both are one.
7. There is no witness watching the situation apart from itself. Then there is attention in which there is no duality no choice, no movement of time, thought or the me center. No fear but just the fact of what is and the appropriate action took place. The end.
In this same vein, my practice has basically become this: give as much attention, immediately, to the sensation of emotions (fear being the main one we feel, consistently). Just give attention to the sensation (not the "this emotion is called fear and so what I need to do is figure out why I'm afraid and regress and regress" - no). Just feel the clench, or the buzz, or the tingle. Bring your mind back and back whenever it strays, but you'll realize that every thought brings some sort of sensation in your body. Keep your mind on the sensations of these as you go about your daily life. Things start to change.
I lost you starting from number 5. Explain more please.
I wasn't not even born when he was giving speeches, but now I miss him a lot
SAME HERE. I am 1997 born.
@@mahimasharma6697 same here bt u so young.gud
Same here too!! All day l listen him and his teachings is so addictive l can't understand life deeply by any other teachings like him..he is friend in need❤️
He is with you here and now with all his wisdom through his recorded lectures by Krishnamurthy foundation. It was his only purpose to start the foundation.
Same I am born in 2004
The past is the observer of our fears and everything.. That got me good 💗🗿
I've recently found the teaching of this erudite and noble man a blessing. My mindset will never be the same again.
Exactly what I feel now
Same here
Exactly my feelings..! I discovered him few days back on the net.. I am binge listening to his teachings now. What a great soul! No frills, down-to-earth, highly spiritual and deep person! Erudite is apt word to describe him!
Any set of mind is problem
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It's true that pure awareness doesn't try to do anything. It has no intention of controlling, suppressing any kind of unpleasant emotion. Awareness simply is. Krishnamurti's point seems to be that the "controller" is part of the problem; it's just a reactive state, another link in the egoic chain. Yes, one can see that the "controller" or "suppressor" is just another guise of the "me".
Exactly! You have articulated it quite well here.
Yes, you are right, however this means to live in the present which can hardly be done. The best way is to break your karmic chain, because this is part of your bad karma and you get dhuka which is suffering, cause you tend to avoid it. So you dont' have to avoid it or trying tricks on your mind cause those won't solve the problem, but rather challenge it by face it.
@@george1449 can you elaborate on what the karmic chain is and how to break it? Also, topics like these in the video make me inclined to believe that there is no free will since there really isn’t an agent or a controller - just a consciousness that can be aware.
@@nugzila4170 any answer?
One sees the observer and dies again after knowing the fact that the observer is the observed,and one again goes on looking without observer. One looks through oneself but has no words to identify it. Because he has no choice than the awareness and the watchfulness.
Listening to Krishnamurti is a great joy and always brings clarity and peace. What grace to have lived in a time where this man can be heard, seen and venerated.
he has spoken a lot about psychological time... his presence is very much alive now at this moment
@Swagat Prasad Sahoo maybe with acceptance...
venerated a human being? what would krishnamurti think about that?
@@danielrinobravo He would never approve.
@@danielrinobravo haha, agreed, but I can't help thinking the same
Where was Krishnamurti when I needed him...oh, of course “when the student is ready, the teacher will appear “
DUH ‼️
How right you are! I share the same feelings as you!
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"I am not your Guru" he would said.
Thank you for this great quote “when the student is ready, the teacher will appear “
@@Chimpance7 He always "stresses" that he is no different from the people around/in front of him. They are having a conversation, exchanging ideas to clear the mind and expand for mutual benefit. Symbiosis. I can imagine (which I just did) walking with him in a park for an hour without speaking a word to each other and then say goodbye and leave knowing I have learned a lot. I'm humbled and grateful that we have a Soul like his in our midst. And yes, he would say: "I am not your Guru." Thank you for your comment. Namaste
I`ve watched this, again and again for so long time to finally come up with truth,what is given here. just brilliant, so simple and absolute!
Trust me you haven’t got it. I have had that illusion several times.
@@hemantkhare5545 how can you be so sure?
@@Aussie1964 At his death K was asked how many of his followers had realized the teaching. He first said one, and shortly thereafter changed the reply to none.
Soo simple-its up to us.
Timeless speech. I wish people watch it all over again until they grasp what he is talking about. The world would be a different place if many of us lived from that place of understanding. And that is what he wanted.
A mind which is utterly free from phycological fear is an extraordinary mind.
How can you say that a person who has no fear wont ever be in situations that perpetuate fear. Makes no sense. I rarely have fear until situations arise
@@johnfredericks9907 maybe he means excessive fear of something that is beyond his ability or understanding such as life after death, etc. it could bothering a person mind and create such a toxic essence
This is our True nature...!
right now (well all my life tbh) I am experiencing utter dread and fear when I'm thinking about approaching women I like. Cuz of my lack of self-esteem, no belief in myself, lack of interesting life (I am a painter who just paints all the time) and basically no stories to tell and amuse women. Which sounds silly now that I have typed that out. I am kinda cute, but feel basically useless when it comes to hanging out with women.
I hate that shit like nothing else.
What shall I do?
@@Hejirah start talking to people regularly and learn about interactions by observing others and watch romantic movies. You are all thought and no experience. Your experience is what made you a painter. Your experience will make you, overthinking is stopping your experience from happening because you only want the safe thing to happen. Go approach someone and do the thinking after you’re done not before
I´m 55 now. I lost the chance to know some of my great heroes, because I was a teenager when they were alive, but at that time, I didn´t knew about them. I just discovered Krishnamurti teachings, some 3 years ago.
Theoretically we understand the JKs lectures, but when we start living by it with full attention, there will be a radical change in us .
😟 in my whole life i have never heard any man of this level.......
Got goosebumps.....deep thinking😦
It seems that way but this comes not from thinking but the innate timeless intelligence of life itself beyond thought. This sentence won't make sense until you allow the dissolution of the compulsive thinking.
@@lucashaywardmusic578 woke
A wise man. He explained everything beautifully to me❤️
Krishnamurti says the big moment is realizing there is only the experience of sensation, but no one to experience it. I've found similar 'progress' by continually bringing my mind back to sensation, whether it's the pang of hunger, the clench of anxiety, or the flush of embarrassment. Just try to feel them - don't resist them. Feel them before you even name them for the emotion that they represent. Just relax INTO it - that's feeling it - over and over and over. And because your brain can't think in words when it's focusing on sensation, you quiet the thinking mind. There is always sensation in your body which means you can do this all the time while doing other things (sure, they'll pull your attention away for a moment, but bring it back, again and again) - and then you start to flow. I figured it out for singing - I was way too clenched inside. But now it's my moment-to-moment practice. I'm doing it right now.
So true and yet so simple.
❤
Mad to think that he was giving this speech in 1982.
I was born in 1981 and to think how this is relevant to me now at the age of 41.
Wish I'd listened to him earlier in my life . Better late than never .
If only he'd known that his speeches would still be listened to years later ! .
I think one has to reach the age of 40 for them to realize what they have not understood and need answers for. I have the same realization and found Jiddu.
A living breathing walking Buddha, that's what that man is... At least when he was alive that is
In a world full of people tryna portray an image...Krishnamurti speaks his heart out, this cant get any more real.
Yeah and 41 or something years ago. People still were trying to portray an image.
The decision to make these recordings was truly a marvelous thing; the content of these seminars have, will likely always be, of the highest importance to all that have and will live; of the greatest import to we who are so limited to/in the territory, yet capable of infinite conceptions in our map making....
I highly simphatiz with those who have never had from him, your perceptions of the world and things changes for ever, example when you remove the past which does not exist in reality and the future which is actualy a projection of the past of which does not exist in the first place, your place and time ceases to exist also. Then you realized that you are the observer of everything that you experience in reality, the "me" of you is an illusion; actions and reactions that the "me" of you experienced illudionarilly apears to come from the "me". But for you to see that may require many years of meditations.
Wonderfully!!!
Why many years ? Time itself is a subjective concept, no ? Where does this "It will take time" come from ? Is it the fear that it might be too soon to realize something ? Is it the idea that realizing is something too big to realize in an instant ? :)
His lecture should be played in prisons and other places where people are facing truma on daily basis
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Prison is a business too, so they wouldn’t teach certain things there same as they wouldn’t teach in schools. These institutions aren’t to create free minds. If prisons were meant to reform everyone would come out better people, don’t get me wrong some do but that’s on their own free will not the system’s doing.
They put people in prison to make them suffer. People who made this law did it out of fear and sometimes give it a name like "correctional institute" or something like that, but prisons are fear-based; made out of fear and to create fear. I do not say I disagree with you and I do not say I agree with you. If you get involved with Krishnamurti's words you might agree that we have to go to the root. But who has time...? Time to think. Time and thought are the root of fear. You can put money into the equation, but that's an illusion because it will lead you back to the root.
Does anybody have a link to the Saturday dialogue he's referring to in this video? I kindly thank you in advance.
Ofcourse not. This will librate them from the sense of being imprisoned. Then What will be the point of jailing them
Most of us have been traumatized. We are in a sort of prison. He is speaking to ALL of us.
As a man was seeking Truth, he saw mountain as mountain, waters as waters ( I-see-mountain, I -heard, I named, classified,I divided, I criticized-this is such a hard to climb mountain). After he saw fleeting Truth, he saw no mountain as mountain, no waters as waters (I am mountain or there's no mountain). But after rested in absolute Truth, he still sees mountain and waters but the Observer is Observed, no more "I" in this phenomenal, relative existence. The ego, or the lack of it, moves in relation in this beautiful, totality of human consciousness. Thanks K and friends.
Very good explanation... Dear sir.. Real meaning of THE OBSERVER IZ THE OBSERVED..
Difficult.
The observer is observed...exacly! It is such a deep experience when you distance yourself from the body - mind and see how it responds without attaching to the emotion/thought
People can't realize the great wisdom behind of what he's saying...Time and thoughts are the root of fear
Absolutely
That made me be in the present moment when he said that statement. Just precious pure bliss
But how this knowledge is going to help you in becoming less depressed person? Or make your state of mind to a bliss
@@sachinranaa8795 it is not the knowledge that helps but the experience of the words. If you understand that you are experience depression doesnt bother you. It is kind of funny but it cant be thought or transfered, it has to be experienced. Suffering and depression is only resistance to what is.
Amazing
they couldnt understand how they could get rid of fear, which i also couldnt untin the very end when he clearly explained what to do to get rid of it. I will give it a try
I like how he gets little bit frustrated when people don't understand
I just got it and I’m both in awe and pissing myself. Also slipping in between getting it and pretending that I don’t. Exercising my ability to understand. Wow.
Why and what do you like about it?
frustrated is too big a word: he just sends a clear message, I don't think he suffers because the world doesn't understand
It's truly hard to really experience the thoughts...he is right, most of u just listened superficially. I'm so happy, even though he's gone, to be able to hear his voice and practice thinking property.
That’s what ended up killing him.
I understand it fully sir, what a man he was, he put all his energy to make us understand that just look at the things without holding on to your memory about the things. That wife example is just awesome. I look at my wife through my memories about her and the same is true in case of fear, anger, etc. Just look at your wife without any past memories of her.
But how exactly ? Our brain doesn't forget. We remember things. We remember the experiences. We remember how that person was. With the ability of consciousness and remembrance, how can we practically not look at things or any person from a completely fresh lens every other time ?
@@blockbyblock4078 If you are truly mindful of the present moment, then there are no thoughts of who you are, who you were or that you know someone. I mean, of course you know someone and have memories about them, but in that exact present moment, if you are mindful you are not your personality and your past, nor that person have the past. You pay attention, you become attention, you observe. Nothing more. It takes practice, but you really can look at things without using your memories and knowledge to name them and think "this is this and that". Even "I am" is just a big bag of thoughts and experiences you had.
This is how I see it. Still, I struggle to keep that clear attention for long periods of time.
@@illwind9178 I just listened to this talk for the first time. I am having and always have had problems with my fear and anxiety. I need to listen again and again until it really sinks in. Yet, I finally heard him say, when you look at fear without any judgements or past thoughts etc, the fear or the feeling of the fear rather, will dissipate. But if I and the fear are one, won't the "I" dissipate or simply, dissipation occurs, and then what? Or maybe I am going into this too much? Do I understand correctly when I see it and thus become it. There is nothing to do perhaps, merely that moment of "getting the truth" and the rest will follow.
@@Aussie1964 you are not your emotions, nor your body. you are pure, primordial awereness. indestructible. as the the buddhist masters say.
I think I am blessed by God that I found the channel which is providing the great knowledge of self
Thanks for these all J Krishnamurti videos 💗
Isn't it funny that he didn't believe in God, he called it childish behavior. A savior made up by our own minds, the good part in us, supposed to be good and the bad we ignore and blame a Satan entity.
Amazing. K saves me every time from the illusions of this world. I thank him for changing my life. ❤️❤️❤️🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
How did your life change?
yeah what you do differently?
U don't think from centre.... because centre is everywhere...& Everywhere is centre,.... namista 🙏
是的 他让我在迷失的宗教信仰中获得自由
Krishnamurti is the best thinker! His Knowledge and teachings comes from a higher source. Love him so much!
I see increasing interest in his teaching every day, which is very encouraging.
It is so plain and simple and no one understands what he is really talking about.
He tries to penetrate in all kinds of ways.
What patience and what energy he puts into people.
He tells it again and again in all kinds of ways.
That poor soul really has a calling to convey his knowledge.
Super respect for him.
God be with you rest in peace.💓🙏
best speech in youtube without a doubt
Oh what a wonderful man ,wish his teaching are spread across the globe in different schools as basics , rest all education without this core life knowledge is utter waste,what good is it to understand maths and sciences without knowledge of own self whose is always in turbulence with uncertainties of life
I love how he repeats the question in the beginning of these talks.
Fear of not being understood which means fear of wasting energy on both sides of the interaction. Fear consumes energy. Lets keep fear as a friend. It will keep us alive but also lets observe it and try to let it go when it is not serving us. Intelligent fear management by means of observation/attention and letting go.
Just listen and know. This is true meditation to be just be. Jk is great living mystic. People are so asleep, he is trying to express that which can't be said, but only observed experiencing. Great sir i love you. Swapnil
View a situation in a fresh mind devoid of past memory prevents fear from crippling the mind. Be attentive to the present.
It is a wonderful environment to “stage” a lecture like this in. Nature sounds, trees and vines and light and shadows augment his wisdom.
I also notice the contrast between his human face and body and the forms of nature around him looking undefined, faceless, not bound up..
Being human has certain joys and wisdom but nature appears at ease, no need to lecture about anything.
Right
Immense. Ancient wisdom. Neuroplasticity and much more. Brilliant.
The most important teacher in my lifetime.
krishnamurti's teachings are SO, SO Profund!! The world, schools and everysingle aspect of this world needs to understand this!! This is MEDICINE, MEDICINE for the MIND, SPIRIT or Consciousness!!! Thank you Universe for allowing me to continuing finding the TRUTH, finding YOU!!
Thank you for your wisdom, clarity, simplicity, honesty. You were one unique , enlighted soul 🙏
Does anyone ever disagree or are you all puppets who are his sychophants.
Amazing razor sharp mind. Alertness, non-judgemental observance, live in present moment, staying away from duality and so on are what K asks the listener to experience. Theology of the highest order. The world of humans owe him a debt.
He is truely an enlightened personality. Hats of to him.
Not only do i like to listen to him speak...but its a treat to watch him talk as well...u can see where he speaks from
The truths are there, but it takes us time to grasp them.
He has been such, a WONDERFUL TEACHER . AND VERY WISE MAN AS WELL !
What he is sharing is precious
Deep. "thought has divided itself as me and the fear"🤯🤯🕯️☯️
Like we hold on to the ideas or perceptions of what once was and to not bring it into the now. Just to see as it is in the moment. Yes enlightened from previous yet from those you can go deeper to see it was fear and not the situation and to observe the current from a more empathetic to express way to see it for what it is and not the surface level of it. So much. Omfg Love 💕💕💕💕💕💕. It's like the picking and choosing of what we think based off the past or our own inner sight yet to see all comes down to fear yet it can be seen for what it is and to realize it's really all made up yet meant to to be aware so one sees it for the illusion it is.
Looking at your wife afresh everyday... you create a new energy when you forget the past
What if one day you wake up and you don't like the look of your wife? Does that mean one should forget the past and move on? Or does one work with the past and the present, to optimise outcomes for the future?
Mikess Nandha Hahahaha good point. I think you be true to yourself and move on!
It could be "the more cellulitis, the more experience in tantric energies" :)
Yes. And I’d imagine that it’s an even more beautiful experience when husband and wife look at EACH OTHER afresh each day.
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This man is literally changing my life. Thank you for the recording and UA-cam channel
Thank you guys for caring krishnaji's teachings ❤
a great lecturer he is! can explain pragmatically the most challenging structures, inner-workings of the human mindset
You have to watch the video on repeat to know what it means
thank you J you are the best one teacher of humanity
I love that he asks the audience if they’re tired 😂 he’s the one working
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yes and no :) When you flow, you get filled with energy you didn't know you had. Conversely, it's the wrangling with ideas (the audience trying to put JK's words into contexts that they understand) that wears us out, and not wrongly. Thought wears us out.
A true sage - this should be a compulsory must-watch video for everyone.
Thank you so much for sharing these insights here. Peace and love to all beings of this Universe. 🙏❤️🕊
one of his most clearifying speeches for me anyway
It's always great to listen to him. So many ways he explained the same thing. I feel his frustration too, he wanted us to grasp the essence in a fraction of second. But very very few are blessed with that kind of sharp intelligence.
I was fortunate while growing up listening to Krishna and Rev Ike in my household. These 2 and others gave me very early on fundamental and foundational principles that have served me well in present day and in real time. That which you learn to face and embrace soon becomes erased. When you get to the root of it you learn your core while allowing yourself to no longer care, freeing you from "fear ". You now can give a deaf ear to fear.
I am listening to him for 3-4 days. I can see that he is trying very hard to tell us the truth. But somehow i feel that i remain a little short every time in understanding it completely. I respect him for his perseverance. I wish i could have met him.
I am grateful for these talks being available. Love and blessings for those who preserved these lessons and insights
man thanks for coming in my life u taught me how to observe and understand without biasness of past and future
see the amount of effort he is putting to explain each and every thing so deeply . I am surprised this level of thinking existed way before . He was a legend and will remain a legend to in our hearts . Love u sir .
This teaching was quite clear for me this time around. I find it beneficial to stop and go into what is being said part by part. This was very helpful.
Amazing video . Such clarity on thoughts . Mind fears everything . Mind's biggest fear is heart . It never allows heart to be the master . Even though heart is the original master . It's the same in our day to day life where the boss or senior won't allow juniors to surpass him even though he/she knows that someone else is more capable.
< ‘Three quarters of all evil in the world comes from fear’
And yet, when you transcend the concept of evil/good, there can be no fear.
May I ask what's the other 1/4? 🤔 Could it be guilt?!
@Matthew yes thank you. I heard this before, but don't have enough awareness of it. Don't understand. What do you think the other 1/4 of worlds problems is caused by? I think is power & greed.
@Matthew I agree. I prefer to call it "unconsciousness", we've all been there, done & said things we regret,then looking back, are shocked by our behaviour or thoughts, realizing we were unconscious
@Matthew yes but that doesn't describe guilt. Guilt is not related to danger or perceiving danger. It's more to do with our having done or thinking we've done something wrong & beating ourselves up about it or feeling very bad about it. It's to do with our conscience.
If one recognise directly his explaining, a miracle will be certainly
I wish we all had the chance to meet him in person and an opportunity to discuss more about our conditions. A true master who tries to make one understand oneself.
Crazy wise man 🙌🏻 Way beyond his time. Words for the history books.
He get you to look much deeper into your self and the understanding come through that, he's brilliant
Great sage after the Buddha!
I just love him !So much of wisdom
Thank you for posting this talk on fear. Krishnamurti tried so hard to make us "see" reality.
Omg!Love his oodles of patience,analysis!Wow ,had to watch this again ,apply it in my out terms.He is so passionate about his subject
*IT´S A TIME MACHINE - We can see the past, we can live the past. When I watch these J.K. videos, with all these utterly live and vibrant emotions, and these trees and green leaves moving behind him, on my 55 inch TV, I´m transported to that time, on an imersive experience, it´s like a time travel listening him for the first time. I don´t know what he will say, I don´t know what leaves would move, so, it´s happening on the present, on my present, not in the past. May be past for other people who have already seen, but for those who never saw, it´s like being there. Even J.K. couldn´t know that his work, his mind, his teachings would be preserved in such a big way and detail. If he was here with me watching to what I am watching, he would be amazed by what technology from this future have achieved. And I think that in the future from now, scientists will be able to put us on a 3D space, where we can really be transported to the video, enhancing our experience of "being there". Future generations will eventually talk to J.K. in real time and get answers from him, answers that have been recorded and another ones which are formulated based on a base of his knowledge. People will be able to see J.K in their room alive in 3D speaking and talking to them all day long. J.K will eventually live in little devices like small computers ( smartphones of the day ) where they could consult him at any time and make infinite questions.*
I'm glad this is saved. Needs to be in the library of Congress.
I am watching this video to handle Deep Rooted unconscious emotion lets see how much helpful is this in 21 century
Helooo... have u find it helpful????
The answer is the same
Well um. Thanks. Whenever I'm in the clouds a few moments with Krishnamurti always sets me free.
The best explain that about fear and time and observer. While I have been struggle with these three topics for a long time, but now I feel that I got something, which is all about time. By seeing this my mind is not very much chattering or being disturbed by numerous thoughts. a fresh mind that starts to observe in a gloomy dark dusk.
Glad to have been able to carefully listen to this LESSON!
"Out of fear we've done all kinds of things, created all the gods of earth." Thata beautiful. Religion is for the scared people
You have a rational mind, keep it alert all the time...
Fear is what? An alert of danger or potential danger. Danger of what? Loss. Loss of life, an arm , a healthy state, a material thing, a person you've become attached to, a job, your fame, your mind, etc. Your attachment to the world is the cause of all fear.
ok i finally got it in the end, u release fear when u donnt think about it or analize it but when u just observe it, look at it and think of nothing, just watch it with your mind's eye
Knowing K is the best thing
Time and thought are the roots of fear. Change the wiring in our brains by having presence.
The speaker tried very hard to explain it to us but it is a very difficult subject.
had to write down excerpts of his speech which spoke out to me and I have to sit on them. think about it. had to constantly rewind and pause and then right at the end, it was like glue. everything pieced together.
I wish you could share it here for us... especially me who finds it hard to understand
Truly a blessing 🙏gratitude. Have shared with other souls 🙏
Pure intelligence
Awareness ⚡ without ⚡ Thought
Really slicing everything with only pure knowledge and wisdom ❤️❤️
Thank u for sharing this extraordinary content
A master in human behavior,thank you.....
A mind that has fear is a dustructive, aggressive, neurotic mind. Where as a mind that is utterly freer of fear isxan extraordinary mind :)
It is so pity that Krishnamurti was not able to teach Vipassana meditation. It's exactly what he is talking about but at the experiential level. Not just talking about it. Fear is the reaction for sensations created by thoughts, and this reaction is unconscious.. Until you learn to be conscious of this phenomenon and be liberated from fear and all kinds of suffering
Indeed. The thought is the cause of fear. The reaction to it comes from the body, for that reason, we must focus on the reaction, wich is the real fear, without criticizing it, and then the fear will end. The thought that "causes" the fear is the memory, it is not the fear itself, it's merely an abstract view of fear, for that reason any set of thoughts can cause the same reaction so trying to block the thought will merely create another one, but the response will be the same.
@@GuilherMith Every word you have written has been true in my own experience. Thoughts cause fear.
This is very wise.
You need to go to the root of fear.
There is the solution and the answer.
I can't help but see parallels with physical reality and quantum physics. It's all so fundamentally unintuitive what he says. Yet, it does have some validity in science, and for the practicing soul that is trying to train ones mind. To domesticate the wild animal that is the human psyche, it all rings very true. Try what he says, which echos the wisdom of so many of our spiritual sciences, and I think we will see, it leads to an objectivity that is empowering.
15:03 Time & thought is the root of fear.
17:21 Don’t pursue an abstraction of this idea, instead know the truth of it.
20:03 As the observer you are not it, in it. ( Fear, or any other emotion. )
27:15 Conflict of Duality, can it end ?
28:55 ‘Me-less observer’
31:02 The knowledge is the past - causes a physiologic division in the present.
32:30 Remembrance of fear does this too.
35:28 Give total attention to fear ( looking at it ) - it is known now ( not remembered as past knowledge ) then fear of it is gone.
Please forgive these notations. They aid me in reviewing this material later.
Your notations helped me too. Thank you.
Nothing to forgive, in my opinion. I greatly appreciate you for writing them as I found them to be beneficial. ♥️ 💫
Thank you for video JK talks give us so much insight and it’s nice to hear the Wood Pecker in the background 💓🐦!