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Muscle Car Of The Week Video Episode #188: 1964 Ford Fairlane 427 Thunderbolt
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The car-buying public thought differently of racing in the early 1960s, and the American automakers knew that cars that won races were great tools to drive customers to dealer showrooms. You know the old saying, what “won on Sunday sold on Monday”,
This 1964 Ford Thunderbolt from The Brothers Collection is a great example of such a machine, a car that still looked recognizable to the masses as a new 1964 Fairlane, but had the chops to get the job done in Super Stock drag racing.
A lightweight chassis and tons of power make this 427 Ford Thunderbolt an awesome Muscle Car Of The Week from The Brothers Collection!
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My favorite Ford is the Boss 429. Off the showroom floor a DOG. My hometown Ford dealer's son bought one and was embarrassed at the local drag strip by other Fords, Chevy's and Chryslers. But it had an unbelievably restrictive exhaust, a smaller carb than the Boss 302 and a couple of other "tweaks" that MADE it slow. The Ford dealer sent it back to Ford, not letting his own mechanics touch it and when it was returned (many weeks later) it was a different car. It ate everything that showed up in the next lane like a light snack. It has been so long I don't recall the best times, but I will NEVER forget the launch. The entire car rose like a Phoenix from the ashes, just LEAPT up off the line and settled only to repeat on the shift. People go to the drags for excitement, and that was THE most exciting thing I saw. On the other hand I never saw the 'Bolt run.
The Thunderbolt is and was #1!!! However the 429 boss is almost as impressive in its own right ! I love your story !WOW!!!😀
The Boss also had the wrong valve springs.....
One of the baddest of all the 60s factory super stockers
You misspelled “THE baddest of all the 60s factory super stockers”.
I heard this Thunder Bolt story from a Ford Engineer many years ago and I've always gotten a kick out of it and it shows just how the NHRA rules games were played in the early days...The first time the thunderbolt went thru inspection it failed because Ford didn't have the front bumpers on them, NHRA said nope has to have a front bumper, so Ford fashioned a fiberglass bumper and painted it silver to look like a metal bumper...the NHRA inspector tapped it and said Nope has to be metal just like the stock bumper...so Ford fashioned a very expensive bumper out of aluminum that was even lighter than fiberglass...the Engineer said it was so thin they were afraid the inspector might dent it when he tapped it but he gave it just a light tap to verify it was metal and it passed...so at least some of the original T Bolts had aluminum front bumpers.
All true. 🙂
Ford tried to utilize a fiberglas replica of the steel front bumper... like Mercury and Bill Stroppe had done with their 1964 FX Comets. But NHRA Tech ruled "What's 'good' for FX isn't 'good' for SS."👎
steve Fowler, All Ford Thunderbolt cars had aluminum bumpers. 1963 prototype car had fiberglass bumpers and NHRA classified it as an AFX car.
The "Hemi Hunter" my favorite Ford ever!
The Thunderbolt beat all the Hemis. Thunderbolt holds the record.
Links?
That thing is fuckin sweet!
Lil bit of swing with the last burnout tho.
the sohc was the hemi hunting engine
Not in Nascar they weren't...The Cammer never raced.
Saw one of these in a Ford book put out by HotRod magazine when I was 4, and it has been my dream car ever since.
My personal favorite MODELS of ALL THE FORDS IS EASILY A 70 BOSS429 MUSTANG THAT OR A 67 SHELBY GT500 LIKE THE ONE USED IN THE REMAKE OF THE GONE IN 60 SECONDS MOVIE WITH NIC CAGE VINNIE JONES, GIOVANNI RIBISI AS WELL AS WILL PATTON AND NOTOMENTION DELROY LINDO AS WELL WITH ROBERT DUVALL BUT SINCE THE 67 SHELBY ISN'T AS RARE AS THE BOSS IS I'M MORE LIKELY TO END UP WITH THE SHELBY SINCE ONLY LIKE 399 70 BOSS 429'S WERE PRODUCED BACK THEN SADLY ENOUGH AS IT IS FORD MUST NOT'VE KNOWN WHAT THEY HAD ON THEIR LOTS UNLESS THEY DID AND INTENTIONALLY MADE SUCH A LIMITED PRODUCTION RUN 🤔🤷♂️🤦♂️🤨HMM..!!??
Nice Car! The original T-Bolt came with a Center Oiler. The Side Oiler became available in 1965. Mine has a 67 Side Oiler, awesome motors!!
True. He also forgot to mention the totally unstreerable hemi beating high riser heads. That's OK because he's a great presentwr
Swisshog Thunderbolt, FALSE. '64 Ford Fairlane Thunderbolt cars came with 427 high-riser side-oiler engines.
@@sergeantmasson3669 if you say so. All I ever knew is that the sideoiler was introduced in 65 as the centeroiler would not hold up for endurance racing. Maybe early sideoiler made it in some of the original 64 Thunderbolts?
@@swisshogthunderbolt1287 FALSE, all Thunderbolts had 427 high-riser side oiler engines. That's according to FORD, not just me.
Yes, I've saw the Thunderbolts run on the drag-strip...
At the 1968-1969 season Spring Nationals in Bristol Tennessee (Thunder-Valley).
I built a very correct 427 T Bolt clone in the 1990s.
Maroon. Correct engine carbs headers everything.
Hadvto use a fiberglass bumper though.
Even then the aluminium front bumper was unobtanium.
Even then the correct engine parts were hard to come by and expensive.
Loved the car.
And Taki g it cruising on Sat night was awesome.
The car wasn't lettered.
And it was rare enough that the younger drivers often didn't realize what it was.
Had to run it on 110 octane. I built it with a shade over 13 to 1.
Even then a night of cruising would chew up around 90 dollars of gas.
But what a rush when both 4bbls snapped open.
what a badass car! That thing is just a beast. Wish I could have one if these babies.
Marco Jr one of my neighbors has a 64 fair lane 2 door like this sitting down the street un restored and i kinda like that cause now i can see it going and coming home from work
My oath
Marco, there's many '64 Ford Thunderbolt clones out there. Real ones are $200,00 to buy, if you can find one. Only 60 still exist.
I saw the First Thunderbolts at the 1964 Winternationals.
i was their also they took the class
No Hemis to race against at the time...The Drag Race Hemi didn't come out until June 64.
This is awesome, one of my favorite Fords ever, but I'd have to say that I'm still waiting on an El Camino from you guys
A 65 Ford ranchero four on floor 289 hippo be nice to see
You forgot to mention moving the shock Towers way in they still sell a kit today
I'm a Chevy guy, but, thunderbolts are still bad ass!
When the exhaust roars out of this beast the captions say music which this IS TO MY EARS PERSONALLY🙂😂🥰😍😘🤣👍👍 THAT IS..!!
I love the Fairlane. My favorite year is 1967, but I do love the 64 thunderbolt. If this car truly runs 9 second quarter miles with good rubber, what stock car is going to match that performance? Man, Ford was ahead of their time with this awesome ride. I think everyone can appreciate this car even if your a Chevy or Mopar guy.
I love the Fairlane also i am putting a 427 in one right now
Me too. My favorite Ford's ever made are the 65 R-Code 427 Galaxie and the 67 R-Code 427 Fairlane. I'd take a 427 powered 63 1/2-67 Galaxie or 66-67 Fairlane over any Mustang ever made. Ford should've offered the 427 as a 1967 Mustang option for serious drag racers who wanted a car that was lighter than a Galaxie or a Fairlane. The 428 Police Interceptor and 428 Cobra Jet were good, powerful street engine's but they would come apart under high RPM abuse much easier than a 427 would. The best high performance regular production big block V8 that Ford ever made was the FE 427. The 428 and 429 CJ/SCJ were great street engine's to put in a muscle car that were really powerful and reliable. The BOSS 429 was a monster if you installed a bigger carb, headers, a solid lifter cam, and a less restrictive exhaust and ditched the smog equipment and adjusted the ignition timing. Ford severely de-tuned the BOSS 429 from the factory in order to make it more streetable...but big block race engines don't like tiny carburetors and restrictive exhausts and that resulted in the BOSS 429 being somewhat of a disappointment considering it's $5,000 price tag. A Hemi Cuda/Challenger or an LS6 454 Chevelle SS were both better performer's than a BOSS 429 in stock form and also cost alot less money when new. A 428 CJ Mustang would beat a BOSS9 in the 1/4 mile and cost probably $1,200-$1,500 less to buy than a BOSS 429. You could also get a Buick GSX 455 Stage 1, Pontiac GTO or Trans Am Ram Air IV, or an Olds 442 W30 for less money than a BOSS 429 and any one of those cars would outperform it. A Torino or Cyclone 429 SCJ with a 3.91 or 4.30 rear axle were also quicker than a Boss9 in the 1/4 mile too and cost less money
In the autumn of 64 my dad took me to the drag strip in Quakertown Pa. A T-bolt showed up and caused quite a stir. It beat everything in its class and then started racing highly modified vehicles. Finally an injected gasser beat it but I remember when it raced everyone in the pits came out to watch. The name on the door was "Shazam". Does anyone know what became of that car?
THE CAR THAT GOT ME INTERESTED IN HOT RODING
Wicked ride. Legendary name.
I had the little brother to the thunderbolt , 1964 ford Ford Fairlane Sport Coupe with the 260 V 8 . It wasn't fast but it sounded great and was a lot of fun 👍👍🇺🇸
The baddest car on the planet!
I love the sound of that 427. Music to my ears.
The 1964 Thunderbolt just didn't win a lot of races, it cleaned house in 1964 in NHRA Super/Stock drag racing. It went on to win the S/S championship in an all-Ford final race. The winning Thunderbolt driver in the finals was Gas Rhonda, and what did he win for winning the NHRA S/S Championship in 64? A brand new 1964 Barracuda- which was put in the showroom of Mel Burns Ford who was Rhonda's sponsor.
Love it, What's faster then a Bolt of Lightning, I don't know, but this car ran 11's. Seen this car a few years ago, well maybe 8 or 9 years ago, what an awesome Tbolt, got to hear her run a little, WOW!!, Good Video
Seats were actually Dodge A-100 van made by Bostrum, with Fairlane vinyl installed at the Bostrum factory just for these cars. If you have an original pair of those seats, you can ask 5-6K for them and get it.
Matt Farah's Million Mile Lexus, FALSE. Thunderbolt Fairlanes used Ford Econoline van seats.
@@sergeantmasson3669 No. Bostrum Dodge van buckets, right down to the Dodge upholstery pattern, but in Ford gold vinyl.
@@mattfarahsmillionmilelexus BULLSH*T. Enjoy your delusions, PUTZ. Why would Ford use Dodge van seats when they already had Econoline van seats?
Ford finally got it right in 64 with this car. The Thunderbolt dominated NHRA Super Stock Drag Racing in 1964. The previous 1962 406 Galaxie and 63 1/2 R-Code 427 Galaxie were very fast but too heavy to beat the 413/426 Max Wedge Mopars. That all changed in 1964 with this car and the 427 Mercury Comet
I believe this was a top oiler 427 block with high riser heads.
Best car ever.
One year at the Langley Good Times Cruise In there was 2 yes 2 Thunderbolts AND an AFX Mustang. I know a man who helped in the restorations of them.
My 1970 Challenger R/T 440 Six-Pak ran a 10:93 at SIR in Kent.
ROBERT snyder Now and ever more, Fords are no match for Mopars on the Dragstrip.
Bondpit .....you're full of sh*t, I watch my Uncle mollywhop Garbage Motors and Mopars with his 75 Maverick runnin a Ford 393 stroker every single time we watch him run....he always out powers em at the end, it's hilarious watchin a Maverick beat up on Cuda's and challengers and camaros....
@@bondpit8750 put a mustang gt against a challenger rt.
The mopar will lose
LiberalsAreWorthless (yes they are, lol) Your Uncle’s stroker wouldn’t qualify as a ‘production’ class motor. NHRA wins and records in S/ SS/ and Pro Stock were pretty much dominantly Mopar and Chevrolet, depending on class in the late 60’s and early 70’s.
Tim Mebruer What year GT and what year ‘Mopar’? We’re talking vintage iron here.
Great car's, I've seen a few rum,they are fast.
The Thunderbolt did not come with a Toploader transmission. They had Borg Warner T10's.
Nice , Nice and Way Nice ! I love that car.
Wow!!! The fastest Ford is right here folks! Oh i know there are special mustangs now days and such...but remember this was the 1960s! What a beast!
The specially engineered 427 in the '64 Ford Thunderbolts actually produced around 650 hp........and that was as much and more than 90% of ALL cars built in later years.
This car is a 427 not a 427 SOHC. Totally 2 different animals for sure.
@@joewestcott1273 This 427 is known as their side oiler.
@@howabouthetruth2157 Yes this motor is rated at 425 hp with dual carbs, single= 410 HP The 427 SOHC was somewhere 675HP. I, lucky for me, have a 64 Galaxie R code Top Oiler dual carbs, same as S/O 425HP.
Pretty sick car 👍🏻🇺🇸
I don’t recall any aluminum top loader transmission
Me either
I love this car !
Oh my,, that is so sweet looking...
This car made almost 600 horse not 425 these cars were awesome I had the pleasure of seeing the Tasca Ford car in person not racing but just static we're still a great pleasure in the same facility owned by Randy delisio I got to see Ohio George's Gasser at least one of them a 67 Mustang I believe with a cammer and a blower what a sight to see the two of them and in the same shop and Impala z11 to be in the presence of all those three was a pleasure
I worked at Connecticut Dragway as a teenager, and I remember seeing Wild Bill Lawton driving the Tasca Ford Thunderbolt many times.
Ford rated the 427 @ 425 HP.
But you're right. I'm going to agree with the 600 HP.
11:50's how cool is that. What do you thinks its competition was at the time? Pontiac, Chevy, Dodge?
Really enjoy this channel, I like that your run the cars out of the hole and put your foot into it. Cause thats the whole reason, get up and go!
thanks
In early 1964, would have been Mopar Max Wedges. GM was out of racing by end '63. Later in '64 competition would have been the race HEMI.
I think the Chevy Z-11 Impala and Pontiac Catalina Super Duty were contenders, but in 1963 at least they were still too heavy, much like the Galaxie. Not sure if the Chevy II was ever sold as a Super Stocker in 64-65. I don't think so. Those Max Wedges are gorgeous.
@@mechanknuckle General motors never had a motor or car to contend with the t-bolt.
@@samuelmarsh4392 the l88 in a nova or Corvette would do it.
This is such a bad ass ford.
ERROR ON THE PLAY(back)!
The 1964 427 High-Riser still utilized the "center-oiler" block of the 1963-64 'Low Riser" engines. The 'side-oiler' commenced with the 1965-and-up 'Medium-Riser' 427 engines.
Very well made video! Car isn't bad either.
Didn't Gas Ronda win the championship with a tbolt in 64?
this IS the baddest car from a factory ,(once uncorked) of the era the hemi dart second
The Hemi Darts/Cudas did 10.5s from the factory(7" rear tyres)...the T-Bolts did 11.5s.
With slicks & headers,the Darts/Cudas were running mid 9s
The 65 A-990 Plymoths & Dodges were also faster than the T-Bolt.
So it goes;
1,1968 Hurst Hemi Darts/Cudas,
2,1965 A-990 Plymouths & Dodges
3,1964 Ford Fairlane "Thunderbolt"...In that order.
it was about hte chassis ...if you could get the fords to hook ,,the engines made very similar HP #s
Pete do you have a 1971 Ford Fairlane 427 in the brothers collection?
1968 was the last year of production for the 427 Side Oiler. It was the 390 horsepower version with a single 4 barrel and hydraulic lifters and it was only installed in one model in the first half of 1968...the Mercury Cougar GT-E 7 Litre. The 428 Cobra Jet replaced the 427 halfway through the 68 model year. The FE 428 was a lot cheaper for Ford to build than the FE 427. The 427 was basically hand built to really strict tolerances. 1967 was the last year for the solid lifter 410 and 425 horse FE 427's
Supertricks.. so right
The 64 Fairlane had a 260 V8 I know I had. One so let's mentioned the 260 also
They're talking specifically about the Thunderbolt and it obviously never had a 260. That was a short lived engine anyway which ended up in the Shelby Cobra for the first 75 or so cars then the 289 became the replacement.
Imagine an automobile that was available through your local dealership that was so fast, the NHRA had to create a class, just for THAT car.
Thus the A/FX Thunderbolt!
I remember watching a match race between a thunderbolt and a Jack Chrisman Comet.....
TODIA Think, FALSE. These cars ran in NHRA Super Stock. Ford Fairlane AFX car was a 1963 Fairlane TASCA Ford prototype car for the later 1964 Thunderbolt. cars which only 100 were built. None were street legal, racing only cars. 49 were A/T cars. 51 had 4 speed transmissions.
Mí nombre es Gabriel Franco , soy argentino y no sabía de la existencia de este hermoso ejemplar, el vídeo es muy bueno 👌 es parecido a un Falcon y también a un Galaxy 500 gracias
If anyone actually believes this dual quad Ford 427 only has 425 hp ...I have a story about the US federal government running the US Treasury ...I'd like to sell you.
lol...amazing...so Ford built a specialized "super stock" drag racer in 1964 that would run 9's or 10's on today's tires...in other words it would give the new dodge demon a run for it's money....that's pretty damn good for 1964 technology.
It actually beats the new hellcat. Thunderbolts have run 9.2@151mph. The new Demon only runs 9.6@140mph.
+bobba68 I love Thunderbolts, but the HEMI Dart was a monster. Thank Ford, because I doubt there would've been a HEMI Dart without the T-Bolt coming first.
@Chad Kimmel - More than a couple of Ford's creations forced competitors to produce their version. The Ford Ranchero created the need for the Chevy El Camino, the Mustang resulted in The Camaro, the cab over Econoline was a first.
That was a nice car but that motor performed like it was hittin on 2 lol
Amanda.........You don't have a clue what you're talking about. The driver in this video was only hitting about 1/3 throttle at once, I guarantee it. These Thunderbolts dominated that season in NHRA Pro-Stock. They had so much power, even with the older tires, that it was the first car in which drivers had to learn to brace their left arm that holds the steering wheel, against the arm rest inside the door as they shifted the 4-speed to keep the car pointed straight, or else it would spin out of control & possibly crash. That's a lot of factory power, which was actually rated at around 650 hp STOCK. ALL the auto makers back then had to lie about HP ratings to cheat the insurance co's. Furthermore, when you actually drag race one of these things, you do a thorough burn-out to get the tires sticky, which by the way, didn't have anywhere near the traction tires have today.
Don't drive a beast like a TURD.....
I highly doubt that hp was only rated at 425 probably 500+
lol...oh yeah...what me and my gear head buddies back in the day used to joke about was how Ford had all the 427 side oilers rated the same H.P...so the low riser, the medium riser and the tunnel port engines all were rated at 425 HP...so that in itself is pretty good evidence that the 425 was just a number they plucked out of a marketing hat.
Steve Fowler & Hank Schrader...the host of this video said this 427 side oiler had a 12.7 to 1 compression ratio...up from 11.6 to 1 on "standard" 427 versions. That double ram air intake had to feed massive amounts of cool dense air vs. the standard set up of breathing heated thin engine room air. In addition, this engine sounds like it has significantly more cam in this video vs. other cars in the Brothers collection with the "same" motor. So this engine being rated at 425 HP was a joke. Awesome car.
the 427 high-rise sideoiler was 13.5-1 and produced ca+550hps from the factory.
That car had no real competition in its day.
But these are what Ford ran in 1964, not 1965, by then they were old race cars. In 1964 they ruled the roost in S/S racing. Thunderbolt's won the NHRA S/S Championship in 1964 in an all Ford finale.
The TBolts won 13 of the 14 NHRA races in S/S in 1964 and buy your own admission the Hemi's were there for the last half of the season and still only won 1 of the 14 NHRA races that year. At the end of the year in the finals it was TBolt vs TBolt for the Championship which was won by Gas Rhonda. Besides the trophy and the prize money, Gas Rhonda won a 1964 Barracuda which was placed in the showroom of Mel Burns Ford with a sign that said "this Plymouth was won by a Ford." Yeah the 65 A-990 Hemi's would have beaten the 1964 TBolts because Mopar had a year to figure out how to build a faster race car....welcome to the world of professional drag racing. For 1964 in S/S drag racing it was the Ford Thunderbolt that won it all. Car brand loyalty can never change that.
After 1964 the Thunderbolt was old technology which is how drag racing works. Your argument that Mopar didn't have anything to offer in 1964 for competition for the Thunderbolt but we should judge the success of the Thunderbolt by what Mopar offered a year later in 1965 is flawed at best and BS at it's worst. Ford was hunting the hemi in 1964 until Mopar went crying to NASCAR and had the 427SOHC motor banned, which was OK because the 427 tunnel port did just fine along with the Boss 429 later in the 60's. There's a lot of hype with the hemi because in the final analysis Ford won more individual races and more Championships [ driver and manufacturer ] than anyone in NASCAR racing during the 1960's. I'll bet you don't even know that, but you probably have an excuse for that to.
Hey guys..all that matters is this car ran low 11s! Nothing can take that away!
Waddel Wilson figured the bugs in the High Riser and made it compete late in 1964 and then they banned it for 1965 , Ford ran a Medium Riser that didn't have the same power as the High Riser in 1965 but they still won . That High Riser was a center oiler with an iron crank putting out almost 600hp. because Anyway it made it's way into boat racing and the Tunnel Ram manifold was born with that engine combo .
Looks like a 57 Chrysler 300 C
! have a 61 Falcon with a 144 what I'm gonna do with that.
See how many MPG you can eke out of it on the highway ❓ My mom bought a ‘68 Valiant leftover with the (I think) last year of the 170 c.i. Six, and that sucker got 37 mpg on long trips, no lie❗️🇺🇸
@@mrdiplomat9018 funny thing about this particular ford engine, it states in the manual that it uses more fuel idling than cruising.
I thought the dual quad cammer was 500 horse, and the single was 450.
The 427 SOHC was 657 hp in dual quad form.
And 615 hp in single quad form.
The SOHC is a different motor from the side oiler Chad
I thought these engines were 14:1 compression.
close; the high-risers were 13.5-1
Nice car but they must have installed a 352cu in that one.
Don't you know it!
Maroon naah
Vintage Burgundy is more like it
Falcon and thunderbolt is same
Nope.
Falcon was a small car thunderbolt was a midsized
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looks like a replica
The Hemis were lighter and slightly faster. fastestlaps.com/comparisons/odhnvuc0bs4z
These Fords ran a lot faster than 11`s: ua-cam.com/video/uzkEviShBUw/v-deo.html
Gave a thumbs down because it's too short of video