I don't know anyone who is a Munster supporter who compares themselves to Leinster. Not in year's have I heard that. You know does it all the time, Leinster fans and OTB.
Why does he still have his Ireland place? Just to close out games? He's sooo different to our style of play that with a scrum half injury we couldn't play or style with him coming off the bench
@@Jereth127 Given up on expecting ulster coverage, if a munster player has a decent game in a loss they get an episode dedicated, if an ulster player does it in a win they're lucky if OTB reads the score of the match
Who are they appealing to and targeting as their audience when munster are in a rebuild and they spend so long talking about them, does fans of any province including munster even want to listen to it
Do you not understand how the internet media works? the same people who write all the negative comments about Munster and OTB talking about Munster are driving more views, clicks, likes/dislikes, and OTB see in their reports that the Munster videos get the most interactions on their channel. They do more on Munster, the same fans complain and the cycle repeats. If you want them to stop talking Munster, stop watching and particularly, stop commenting, it's your own fault.
@@barryryan14 ok. I get your point. However I don’t wish for OTB to stop talking about Munster completely. It’s just the recent narrative of will they won’t they improve over time? Van Gran, last season, no win since 2011 etc etc. It’s been discussed ad nausium at this stage. Love the OTB coverage in general.
All tactical substitutions should be made up to 60 minutes and substitutions after 60 minutes should be injuries only. The main reason is, players are earning caps by subbing on for a minute or two when the game is virtually over.
In theory yes, to me it's to see at the end of the season where Munster and Connacht sit. Undoubtedly Leinster are one. I wonder on balance how close are Ulster. Can see them winning the URC in the next year or two
Munster finished 11 points behind Leinster in the URC. Connacht finished 16 points further behind Munster last season. 1st v 4th makes literally no sense.
The scrum half topic doesn't get enough attention. My depth chart taking all politics out of it JGP Cooney Casey The rest The Sexton potential beef with Cooney is the most avoided topic and we will lose Cooney to Scotland in a few months
Cooney didn't get kept by Connacht either. Great player. But I wouldn't be surprised if there's something there that multiple head coaches know better than you or I.
Or in 2 years time joe mccarthy will be a beast after having 2 years of learning watching Jenkins, Fardy didn't hamper the development of any leinster Second row or flanker, can only imagine how much value in learnings all the lads around him took over the years
here's my little dream of domestic bliss: 4 irish teams, 2 scottish, 3 welsh, 7 english with an 18-game season. - i doubt premiership would have entertained this in the past, but beggars can't be choosers - the sa teams are good fun, but a more centralized league with easier travel for fans and players is better and more cost efficient. as it stands, im already more likely to watch harlequins vs saracens than bulls vs lions. - wales is stretched too thin on talent and england is hemorraghing money, so they merge some teams. the italian teams i don't have a solution or care for. they can all go play for nice maybe... - bit controversial but i think the champions cup has become silly. the format changes every year, it creates a stop/start in the domestic league that repeatedly kills momentum, many teams don't field their best, the epcr finals is awkwardly before domestic finals, now there are south african teams in the "european" cup, its based off the previous year (bath was in "champions" cup last yr and was almost winless in the premiership), and with all the talk around player welfare and the long calendar, it should be dumped. fewer games and better competition means the first team will play regularly in the domestic league making it more exciting. - replace champions cup a one game mega-final between the winner of top 14 and my new premiership at a fun neutral site (canary islands?). runners up can play the evening before for third place. a sort of weekend festival. - added bonus of making lions selection a lot more interesting thoughts?
Can't agree. Number games doesn't add up in your league. Europe is brilliant no way that should be dropped. Italy deserve to be somewhere can't disregard growing the game. Overall it's an elitist view you have defined and that's not what the game actually needs.
Not bad English pride would stop this .. In a normal league you play home and away so that would be 30 games form your list .. The Italians are in the six nations ? If not included they would fall even further behind . English clubs are slowly going bankrupt.. so you never know . Would you add in promoting in to league ? Might be a closed shop otherwise ? Having the same finals in at the same location two nights in a row is adding to the costs for the fans so not good , hotels and flights become impossible to get at even a half decent price ..
@@markc3258 all good questions. with games i'd have 4 divisions of 4 with home and away only in divisional matchups. so 15 games + 3 additional divisional fixtures - like urc works currently. unfortunately, i can't really think of a way that relegation would make sense. for the italians i think they'd be better served playing elsewhere than having winless seasons at zebre with half the team being imports, kinda like how the argentines are scattered throughout europe and i think are better for it. anyway all just fun musings - i think pro rugby still has a ways to go in getting their structures in order. like a domestic league where teams are based 10,000 km apart on different continents just can't be the answer...
Drico always a pleasure
"They defend because they want to defend ...not just because the have [defend] " Good one!
What was Ger Gilroy waffling on about there on Munster. I don’t think he has a clue what he is trying to say half the time.
It's like that "businesses speak" waffle you hear in meeting sometimes
I don't know anyone who is a Munster supporter who compares themselves to Leinster. Not in year's have I heard that. You know does it all the time, Leinster fans and OTB.
Great point re Conor Murray
Why does he still have his Ireland place? Just to close out games? He's sooo different to our style of play that with a scrum half injury we couldn't play or style with him coming off the bench
@@robhallie they trust him. I hope you moan and get upset until after Murray Retires from International rugby post world cup
@@robhallie @Rob because he rarely fluffs up. He is also as likely to score a try as another other scrum half. He’s a decent penalty kicked too.
Enough with Munster already. They’ve a new coach. Give em time. They’ll be fine. End of story. 🙄
As a Munster supporter, absolutely agree. Give Munster space and talk more about the exciting things brewing in Ulster
@@Jereth127 Given up on expecting ulster coverage, if a munster player has a decent game in a loss they get an episode dedicated, if an ulster player does it in a win they're lucky if OTB reads the score of the match
Who are they appealing to and targeting as their audience when munster are in a rebuild and they spend so long talking about them, does fans of any province including munster even want to listen to it
Do you not understand how the internet media works? the same people who write all the negative comments about Munster and OTB talking about Munster are driving more views, clicks, likes/dislikes, and OTB see in their reports that the Munster videos get the most interactions on their channel. They do more on Munster, the same fans complain and the cycle repeats. If you want them to stop talking Munster, stop watching and particularly, stop commenting, it's your own fault.
@@barryryan14 ok. I get your point. However I don’t wish for OTB to stop talking about Munster completely. It’s just the recent narrative of will they won’t they improve over time? Van Gran, last season, no win since 2011 etc etc. It’s been discussed ad nausium at this stage. Love the OTB coverage in general.
you are right bod , @nipes v ab, miss that.
The future of Irish rugby is Crowley at 10 and Frawley at 12
Frawleys a 10, good battle coming between those two when sextons gone
what happened to the next great big thing Harry Byrne. this time last year he was going to be the next Dan Carter.
1st vs 4th
All tactical substitutions should be made up to 60 minutes and substitutions after 60 minutes should be injuries only. The main reason is, players are earning caps by subbing on for a minute or two when the game is virtually over.
I'd listen to Brian read the phone book.
For an extra £100 he'll read you the Golden Pages.
🤜🏻🤛🏻 well said.
Leinster vs Munster Is more like 1st vs 4th ..
In theory yes, to me it's to see at the end of the season where Munster and Connacht sit.
Undoubtedly Leinster are one. I wonder on balance how close are Ulster. Can see them winning the URC in the next year or two
Did a Munster girl break your heart Mark... Have a bit of a chip
@@sc1837 na just mighty craic at the minute 😂😂
Don’t know about that but it’s definitely not a rivalry anymore.
Munster finished 11 points behind Leinster in the URC. Connacht finished 16 points further behind Munster last season. 1st v 4th makes literally no sense.
Ger has gone from really bad to even worse - he's just brutal now, embarrassing
The scrum half topic doesn't get enough attention. My depth chart taking all politics out of it
JGP
Cooney
Casey
The rest
The Sexton potential beef with Cooney is the most avoided topic and we will lose Cooney to Scotland in a few months
Yep and its immediately implied its down to cooney no blame on sexton
Cooney didn't get kept by Connacht either. Great player. But I wouldn't be surprised if there's something there that multiple head coaches know better than you or I.
McGrath is better than Casey. Casey may well trump him due to future prospect
Cooney is finished as an Ireland player
With Jason Jenkins starting in the 2nd row for Leinster, Leinster will struggle to develop right sided Irish 2nd rows who can play 80 minutes
Or in 2 years time joe mccarthy will be a beast after having 2 years of learning watching Jenkins, Fardy didn't hamper the development of any leinster Second row or flanker, can only imagine how much value in learnings all the lads around him took over the years
@@niallormond6972 When Fardy played 2nd row, he mostly played left 2nd second row
He's there to win the big trophy this season
Joe McCarthy will get a lot of game time at lock.
here's my little dream of domestic bliss: 4 irish teams, 2 scottish, 3 welsh, 7 english with an 18-game season.
- i doubt premiership would have entertained this in the past, but beggars can't be choosers
- the sa teams are good fun, but a more centralized league with easier travel for fans and players is better and more cost efficient. as it stands, im already more likely to watch harlequins vs saracens than bulls vs lions.
- wales is stretched too thin on talent and england is hemorraghing money, so they merge some teams. the italian teams i don't have a solution or care for. they can all go play for nice maybe...
- bit controversial but i think the champions cup has become silly. the format changes every year, it creates a stop/start in the domestic league that repeatedly kills momentum, many teams don't field their best, the epcr finals is awkwardly before domestic finals, now there are south african teams in the "european" cup, its based off the previous year (bath was in "champions" cup last yr and was almost winless in the premiership), and with all the talk around player welfare and the long calendar, it should be dumped. fewer games and better competition means the first team will play regularly in the domestic league making it more exciting.
- replace champions cup a one game mega-final between the winner of top 14 and my new premiership at a fun neutral site (canary islands?). runners up can play the evening before for third place. a sort of weekend festival.
- added bonus of making lions selection a lot more interesting
thoughts?
Can't agree. Number games doesn't add up in your league. Europe is brilliant no way that should be dropped. Italy deserve to be somewhere can't disregard growing the game. Overall it's an elitist view you have defined and that's not what the game actually needs.
Not bad
English pride would stop this ..
In a normal league you play home and away so that would be 30 games form your list ..
The Italians are in the six nations ?
If not included they would fall even further behind .
English clubs are slowly going bankrupt.. so you never know .
Would you add in promoting in to league ?
Might be a closed shop otherwise ?
Having the same finals in at the same location two nights in a row is adding to the costs for the fans so not good , hotels and flights become impossible to get at even a half decent price ..
thoughts? not sure you've had too many here.
@@markc3258 all good questions. with games i'd have 4 divisions of 4 with home and away only in divisional matchups. so 15 games + 3 additional divisional fixtures - like urc works currently. unfortunately, i can't really think of a way that relegation would make sense. for the italians i think they'd be better served playing elsewhere than having winless seasons at zebre with half the team being imports, kinda like how the argentines are scattered throughout europe and i think are better for it. anyway all just fun musings - i think pro rugby still has a ways to go in getting their structures in order. like a domestic league where teams are based 10,000 km apart on different continents just can't be the answer...
lol what 'quarter final'