Trials of Mana - REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 21 кві 2020
- After two and a half decades, the Super Famicom classic Seiken Densetsu 3 is back in remade form as Trials of Mana! But does this remake have what it takes to stand trial? Find out in our in-depth review!
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The bad English voice acting really adds to the retro feel.
Japanese audio FTW
Like Shenmue 3 lol
That is very subjective.
I guess you could think of it that way.
@Maveth The Reaper Obviously a joke no?
I want them to remake Chrono Trigger in a similar way as this.
I no longer think it is a long shot with them being on a remake kick with mana and even FFVII. I almost expect one for CT too.
That's a game i don't think Square would dare touch in a remake
@Darkspawn Unleashed and? Square are always remade FF games for the longest time
I wonder if Final Fantasy VI has a shot at a remake and/or rerelease.
I want them to remake Final Fantasy V.
Why would the action combat be a turn off to fans of the original when it was action combat as well?
Even though they're the same genre, the gameplay is a lot different from the original. You can now dodge, jump and have two attack buttons and can use multiple techniques, while in the original you only had one attack button and you had to wait till you could attack again, you had no ability to dodge and every class only had one special technique.
Because it was a top down view.
I'm surprised no mention of the camera was done. Just playing the demo is enough to see how not so great it is, and the footage shown on this review in combat really shows how bad the camera can be at time. I don't mind turning it all the time but I know it can be a huge turn off for some people.
Benedikt L.
Well afterall its a ReMAKE and not a ReMASTER.
What's funny is there's a lock on button so camera isn't a problem.
@@102Starkiller really? I've looked everywhere and couldn't find one. Where is it?
Whenever I’m looking up game reviews and see you’ve done one, I go to you. I really like your approach to reviews and your views feel relatable enough to be a good indicator of how I’m likely to feel about a game.
Keep up the good work!
Overall, they did a superb job with the soundtrack...
That dub, tho...
subs over dubs!
Don't Forget Me!
@@DuranmanX YA DUN
They said in the review that the game still feels like an RPG of its time, so its only right that it has a dub straight out of the mid-90's.
Personally, I'm willing to put up with it purely for the fact that Angela sounds just like Weiss Schnee (perfect casting).
Kind of agree with the dubbing. Although I think there might be far worst jobs out there. At least it is serviceable enough and with the expressions feels you understand how the characters feel. But at there is the option to use the Japanese voices instead with the English subs. But I am thinking of looking pass the dubbing work.
9:31 That “Graaah” is f’n metal. \m/
It's been too long since we've heard from Ash--happy to hear you again!
Yup im happy 2
yeah i thought he got fired or somethin
Does he sound a little different, or is it just me?
Thank you! GX isn’t my full-time gig so I can only do so much at the moment, but I super appreciate the kind words and will be around as much as I can. :)
Asurastrike Haha! Nah, GX just isn’t my full-time job and I gotta lay those bills. Hope you enjoyed the review!
I'm just glad this turned out leagues better than the Secret of Mana Remake.
9:20 Did the voice actor chuckle during his graaaaah?
Cannot tell if that was intentional or not but its
kind of hilarious.
Huh you're right, that does sound odd.
that was definitely a chuckle lol
@Quan Le Hoang Anh oh no.
Omg that is so bad lmao
Samuel Samuel There’s a chuckle cause she’s gonna get it.
I'm so glad it's faithful to the original. And yes, from my experience, the soundtrack is pleasant to the ears, even if not fully orchestrated. It has its charm.
I can't wait to play this since the SNES version is among my favorite games. I'm also glad that there was a mention of Sacrifice Part 3. That track is among the most hype final boss tracks in any game and relieved to hear it is done well.
I'm also convinced that some of the 'inspiring' English voice acting is intentionally a meme.
For oldschool JRPG fans who grew up in the 90's, this game is an absolute home run by Square Enix. I would never have guessed they could be so faithful AND make a game so playable and fun. They've really turned a page in their history this year. Thank God. Now how about a Chrono Trigger remake?!
This is likely going to be my next purchase once I finish up with FF7r
The FF7 remake was much better for me. The dialog in this game is very cringeworthy
I’m so happy to hear that it’s good.
only for fans though otherwise i found it preeetty mediocre for a 50$ pricetag
@@shishiroONE its worth $25. $50 is close to FF7 remakes $60.
" You ain't seen nothing yet! GYAAAAAAA!!"
The voice of Salamando must have been Jeff from accounting.
It could have been Jake from State Farm
I liked everything about this game, besides story and voice acting. Story was good, but there was so much potential. It have been covered up by a great voice acting, but well that didn’t happen
9:15 wow, I can actually hear the low quality of the mic.
Why do you have a hentai as your profile pic. It's not even hot lol.
@@krimsonkatt Speak for yourself ;)
@@MrProg-ey3tl He... He just did.
@@snivyservine6361 lol why you do him like that.😂😂
@@krimsonkatt That's not a hentai. That's just someone eating a cucumber roll.
The menu heavy original is what kept me from beating this game the first time around. So I'm extremely pleased to know they fixed all that
Cool, I'm getting it! That art style is so beautiful.
It's so good. Even on Switch. Angela and Riesz
The Secret of Mana remake is in no way THAT bad. It's basically just a graphical update to the original with minor QoL upgrades, it's actually almost completely faithful to the original. The notion that they somehow ruined the game is completely wrong, it's most likely that people kind of forgot how primitive the original was. The game is still a classic though and is still fun, you just have to set your expectations appropriately.
Only thing that kinda sucked was the loading
exactly! People found so many ways to crap on that remake when it was basically a 1:1 recreation. AND they left in the option to switch back to the original music.
Snes sprite-based budget phone game visuals is hardly a graphical update. It looks hideous.
@@seriouskano2 Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
@@NiNjARaY1 People who like the visuals of the SoM "Remake" spend too much time with shabby mobie games I suppose
The Trials of Mana remake team should also remake Live-A-Live, Chrono Trigger, and Bahamut Lagoon.
David Hill yes chrono trigger is hands down the best game of all time
Chrono Trigger? You sure? I mean, I love the game so much & the original works perfectly fine. Especially with the DS remake. But do you think it'll qork if they remake it & turn it into an Action RPG?
JJ C I hope the remake will be turn-based. My first choice for a remake is Bahamut Lagoon. The remake’s soundtrack should involve a symphony orchestra and a jazz band, due to the nature of the original Super Famicom soundtrack.
I gotta try live-a-live sometime...
hats off to all the gents and ladies that have time for all the good rpgs on this console. I still have to make time for dragon quest xi.
Man, I really like that game and I've maybe played like... A third of it? But there's so many good games to play right now, I can't be bothered to pick it back up atm.
I spent 110 hours on DQ11 and finally beat it. The reason it took long was because I had tougher enemies enabled. It was a good DQ game, enjoyed it. But you're right, so many rpg's on the switch, no time to play them much. Im lucky that I finished DQ11.
When I start a jrpg, I generally play nothing else until I beat it, it can take approx. a month. (even tho I still buy new games for my backlog haha)
But for this one I will play ACNH like one hour a day, and ToM the rest of the time...
Yeah Dragon Quest 11 is looong easily 100 hours but a great friggin game took me about a year to finish with work and all
I'm at the very end of dragon quest 11 with every single quest completed. If you do everything then that game is LONG. Definitely over 100 hours. It's seriously addicting
In comparison to the cast of Final Fantasy IV, Cecil Harvey is likened to Duran. Kain Highwind is likened to Riesz. Rydia of Mist and Palom of Mysidia are likened to Angela. Rosa Farrell and Porom of Mysidia are likened to Charlotte. Yang Fang Leiden is likened to Kevin. Edge is likened to Hawkeye.
In comparison to the cast of Final Fantasy X, Auron are likened to Duran. Tidus is between Duran and Hawkeye. Yuna is likened to Charlotte. Kimahri is a mix of Kevin and Riesz. Lulu is likened to Angela. Rikku is likened to Hawkeye.
I started playing Trials of Mana today and I am really enjoying it so far. The remake immediately gets a massive amount of bonus points for staying true to the original OST and just upgrading the samples used. I think there are some variations in tracks I have heard, but for the most part it seems to be a 1:1 sequencing.
This is HUGE to me because of how often OSTs for remakes are designed around the impression that because they're working with newer technology they have to cram an entire orchestra into every single track and shove as many flourishes, counter melodies, and harmonic variations as possible. It just ends up making everything sound like an "epic remix" that's turned to 11.
If Chrono Trigger is ever to be remade I hope it would stick to its original art style and update Yasunori Mitsuda and Nobuo Uematsu's original music with better samples rather than try to "update" the music itself. It's so good as is. Heck, they could probably even get away with using samples from Chrono Cross!
Hawkeye/Reisz/Charlotte is an amazing team though, if you’ve taken H as dark and R as light, and C as whatever, you can mow down anything.
Playing through the game right now on hard mode, and can confirm there is a difficulty jump after your first class change. The Xenoba and Bill & Ben fights nearly wiped my party.
I've fallen in love with this game all over again.
I adore everything about this, it's definitely a must-own.
Also, the character select and the way the class change works, I could see this being a game I come back to for years
I still can't believe they took out the multiplayer
Screw multi player
Did the original seiken densetsu even have multiplayer? Ive heard otherwise...
PS: i know secret of mana did
@@johnnyscifi Seiken 3? Yes it did, though people complaining that the remake doesnt have multiplayer seriously start to piss me off. The devs clearly said that it wasnt achievable without changing the whole structure of the remake.
Hopefully this sparks more interest in the Mana series again and make a Seiken Densetsu 5 with multiplayer, dont think they can fix SD4/Dawn of Mana though haha, I still own that pS2 game. Im okay just with a release of Legend of Mana on modern consoles or somethin, no need to remake that one.
Do you know that each character has at least 2 types of ending, depending on who is on your team? Also depending on who you choose as your main. I have already seen people using Kevin as main, but with different characters on the team, have different story routes and ending for Kevin himself. For example, if Riesz as main, with or without Hawkeye in your team, will have a different ending for her even if it is the same path of the last boss for the main story out of the 3 paths for the last boss.
Selecting who is the 2nd and 3rd member of the team will affect some of the story sequences. You can try this for your self on the Demo too. For one good example, if Charlotte is selected as the 2nd team member, she will join you before you can enter the Cascade Cavern. If you select her as 3rd member, she will join you inside Cascade Cavern as your 3rd member (fastest way to get all 3 members), where you help to save her from falling. If you don't select her as a party member, you will still save her but she won't join you. If as the 2nd member, the main character will be the only one seeing the Priest of Light (Charlotte's grandfather). Where if Charlotte as the 3rd member, the main and 2nd character will go meet the Priest of Light. In both cases, Charlotte will not go meet the Priest of Light. However, if Charlotte is selected as the main character, this the only case that she will go see her grandfather, on top of that, the 2nd member selected will be the one who she lands on and save her when she tries to escape Wendel with the super jump item during her background story.
Also sometimes you do get some special link abilities when you spoke to some NPC, so if you just skip speaking to all the NPC without the stars guide, then you will be going to miss out on those link abilities. They also like to hide items, treasure chest, and the cactus in hard to view corners and camera angle view.
Glad I pre ordered it last month
But I litterally see 0 marketing of it?! PROMOTE IT MORE SQUARE T_T
Agree.
If It Isn't Final Fantasy Square Doesn't care
I loved the demo so I'm looking forward to getting my copy later this week. Glad to hear the rest of the game doesn't falter.
Pretty cool to see this game in full 3D remake and I will check it out once I get paid.
I played the demo and loved it, cant wait for its release. BUt one complaint i did have which isnt really huge but really only a minor annoyance is the abrupt pause to signify the change in day and night. I wish they hadnt gone the simons quest route with its day and night cycle.
Glad to see you back again, Ash.
Hope things are going well for you. :)
Great review. Sounds like you have played the original as well. I cant wait to play this. 25 years ago I would play this with my brother. Everything about this remake is fantastic
Because of how the other remakes turned out I was still skeptical but right away the Trials Of Mana remake seemed like it was going to be good. I only got into the series with Collection Of Mana but having no nostalgia for the games or that era in general I still got completely hooked. So I really hope they keep these up and go back to the first two or make a new game in the Trials remake's style. I'd ask for the ones after that but I haven't heard good things about the later games so I don't know maybe just ignore them or change them for the better.
I've heard that Legend of Mana is pretty good but the rest are just kind of meh. Most fans that I have talked to agree that Trials is where the series peaked.
I just finished Ys VIII, its going to be hard for Trials' combat style to top that.
Do you have to play the previous games before you play this or is it separate?
Im very glad this exists. Along with Bravely Default, Octopath, Dragon Quest, and FF VII Remake, squarenix is on fire!!!
Id love for Ito, and possibly Sakaguchi to return
Very good review of this surprisingly awesome remake! I've been talking about it a lot on our podcast .. it's so comforting and relaxing and came out at the perfect time.
I was a little worried as a veteran of the original game with me breezing through hard mode in the demo, but I'll just chalk that up to earlygame being earlygame. I'm super excited for this game regardless and I'll probably be replaying it as many times as I did the oringinal, maybe more.
finally something other than Animal Crossing on this channel
I absolutely love your review style Ash.
If i get this game, i'm playing with the dub simply due to how hilariously bad it is.
It really makes the game feel like it was made in the 1990’s-early 2000’s.
That just makes me like it even more!
I agree. It's pretty bad, but funny as hell....
I love me some bad dubs especially unintentionally funny ones
We weally WEALLY nweed to get back to Wendew.
If you're into anime hicks dubbed by valley girls, you're gonna like the English dubs.
Wouldn't it have been better if it had multiplayer like the snes version?
Fantastic review, thanks so much!
Went through the demo with 4 party setups. AND SEEING THIS MEANS I CAN FINALLY PLAY THE FULL VERSION LETSA GO!
The game is well done and fun. Thats all that matters to me.
I really need to play this game one day. I never played the original on the Super Famicom. But I heard great things about it. So I'm looking forward to this one.
I was scared to have gamexplain review a game i am not sure they even played in the 90's. I am happy to see they liked it. :)
Lets watch a review of a game i decided to buy day 1 the moment it was announced.
I want a new jrpg for my switch. Between this or dragon quest what would yall recommend?
When I play, I want that dub
The game being English dubbed is win for me. When I play a game I like to play it and not constantly look at the bottom of the screen to read text.
You at least meet other characters at least once. After your protagonist prologue you end up in a port city held by beast man. You can find Angela sleeping at the Inn. In fact 5 of the 6 characters can be found in this town. Charlotte will be found in the cave unlocked by the faerie.
I'm just curious is there any side quests in the game? Or story only
No side quest at all but you have characters stories so that's the key here this adds to much content.
Been wondering about getting this game. May consider getting it and still have Gift Card credit from my recent Birthday. Was considering getting Super Mario Maker 2 with the final update, but I'm so-so on 2D platform games and I don't think I would have enough patience making levels, let alone being able to beat my creations and upload them and making games/maps.
When I played the demo, I fel the controls were really stiff and unwieldy, but I just might give it another try after this review.
Do you have to play the game 6 times to get the full story or just twice if you make your second playthrough use the three charactrers you didn't choose the first time around?
The game has three main antagonists, so you have to play it thrice to see every story path. But to see every character interaction in all three stories is probably impossible, because there are so many combinations.
Will definitely pick this one up! Next on the list is Xenoblade 😁
I hope Legend of Mana gets a remake similar to this one day. I know they're interested in possibly remaking another game and I hope it's this.
I-I-I-I liked the soudntrack from the SoM Remake because it was so experimental. Sure, a handful of songs were pretty weak, but some of them are almost as if Pink Floyd rolled all over the soundtrack lol
A bit disappointed that Trials for the most part only mad synth-orchestra "updates" of the old songs (still got some nice arrangements though)
Nice one, stuttering Stanley. T-t-t-today junior!
I've played about two Mana series games. One was a PS2 version that came out in the mid 2000's like around 2005-2007. Think it was called Legend of Mana. The other was the 2018 version that was eehhhhh. Anyway VERY good review and thanks. I'll be getting this game. I love action games.
Good Lord that voice acting. I may be forced to switch to sub if it continues to be horrendous, but then again, I welcome the comedy from it.
Now this remake I'm waiting for from SE 💪🏽
Vc é diferentao, heim cara. Noooossa....
What a contrariam snowflake...
@@neildrunkmaam7040 Mas o FF Remake não é tão bom mesmo, é vendido em partes.
So excited for this
Kevin is the main character on my first playthrough. Hawkeye is the main character on my second playthrough. Duran is the main character on my third playthrough. Charlotte is the main character on my fourth playthrough. Riesz is the main character on my fifth playthrough. Angela is the main character on my sixth playthrough.
Thing is you don't HAVE to reinvent the wheel all the time, sometimes going with what works is perfectly fine an ends up being better than trying to reinvent.
Great review!
Wow, the PC/PS4 version performs way better than the Switch version.
I'm still glad I bought it on Switch, I had a lot of fun with it. But if I plan to replay it, I should probably trade it in for the PS4 version.
Hello, this game marked my childhood, is it true that this new version even playing hard is too easy?
The world map looks incredible!
You didn't mention that the remake doesn't have any multiplayer option like the original.
I never played the original game but picked up the demo and enjoyed it sooo much that I decided to pick it up
Great review, kudos. 👍🏻
how many hours for playtime?
Saw this popped up on Steam, jumped onto UA-cam to confirm it is what I think it is before buying.
I've always wanted to play Secret Of Mana 3 but couldn't get into it via emulator. This will do for me ;)
It’s good. If you like some of what square enix has made recently it fits in really well. Recommend.
Nice Review! I personally rather have a game use lower graphic, and then run smooth on 60FPS ... whats the point to aim at 30FPS when the Console never even can reach that?
Also ... the feeling i got from the Demo ... its a fun game with mechanics from yesterday ... it feels like Secret of Mana on the Snes back then. On Steam the game is $50 which this is worth ... more then $40 for the Secret of Mana remake ...
A Reisz/Hawkeye combo with Charlie on heals? That group wrecks the original game too.
This game looks really good i never played the original but i will be trying this one out for sure. The Art Style reminds me of Dragon Quest 11 and i loved that game.
Me too.
Which one is a better purchase though? This game or the collection?
Just finished the demo might buy it
After playing the demo I'm certain I want Kevin as my main character but I'm a bit indecisive concerning my two side characters. Maybe I'll go with Riez and Hawkeye.
I'd say these are good companion choices. Riesz is a great supporter, especially as a Light Valkyrie. Hawkeye is great--his Dark Dark Nightblade path has a ridiculously strong Class Strike.
I think I'll pick this up ... after I clear my massive backlog ... which will take about 2 years
Is the difficulty balance comparable to KHIII?
FINALLY!
I wish they had given Secret of Mana this treatment, or just skipped it and went straight to this game.
this was because SQEX wanted to make SoM an mobile game, but redid it twice, before the third time it was "redone" was a mere port to the PS4 with some adjustments. This isnt what ppl wanted, and SQEX could have asked about such things instead of just doing it.
This game was secretly amazing.. I played it when it originally game out.. it rivals chrono trigger.... can't wait to have my dude squad and change into warewolf as a fight starts and becoming a Ninja
Its even better then Chrono Trigger. Chrono, actually, its the most overestimated game ever.
Only in Snes we have a lot of RPGs as good as Chrono, like Seiken D. 3, Terranigma, Final Fantasy VI, Tales of Phantasia, Lufia 2, Star Ocean, Secret of Mana, Ys V, Bahamut Lagoon, but because most of these games are never come to the west, they became known long after, only, except FF6 of course and Tales of/Star Ocean franchise.
Imagine if we include others games of the genre of other consoles. Imagine if we include the Zelda franchise to the genre, Chrono wouldn't even be in a top 20.
This is it.
I liked the demo and I was always surprised about the variation of characters and therefor the story of the game since I first heard of the SNES version. But as I am not used to "modern" RPGs, I get very confused in towns and cities in those games when the camera is not fixed and the doors are not facing to south. But I fuess that's just me and I am nitpicking?
Boomer
Is the story complete? Or does it stop after Midgar?
LMAO!
I find it strange that nowhere is the fact the original game had multiplayer is mentioned. I know it is the biggest reason I probably won't get it. I thought the demo was good, just I really want to play with my friend(s) on the couch like the original game. I think that's an important thing to leave out of a review that's comparing it to the original as most friends I have that are big into this series really love the multiplayer.
Wow i had no idea this was coming out already. I loved the original so ima get it.
Is it possible to play the game twice and get all of the story, using 3 different characters each time? I saw in the demo, you can watch the side characters back story and actually play through it.
Not really. There are three story paths and you only get to see the one that belongs to your main character.
To see every possible combination of characters and classes you'd have to play this game dozens of times.
Waiting for my dang preorder.
I loved the crap out of the original, and played the demo at least three times. I really love the revamped battle system, and everything else was glorious nostalgia. The demo hard mode was still really easy though, at least through the first boss.
In the original my personal favorite team was Kevin,Angela, Charlotte
I agree with pretty much everything said in this review. I'm a bit sad it still feels like a bit of a low budget title, given its steep price and the fact the developer isn't exactly strapped for cash. Still, I'm having lots of fun with it.
So they basically took what made YS 8 so big and applied it to this remake. Yes, I know it was already an action RPG. But you’ve gotta admit it’s rather similar.
I'm getting this game to scratch that Ys viii itch. The English voice actor for Dana plays a number of characters from what I can tell, which makes me happy. Very much looking forward to playing the full version of this!
I enjoyed the demo not sure if the price point for the full game is worth it.